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Title: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zakari on August 13, 2013, 11:21:17 AM
TH14 has been released so....  what will happen to TH15?

Here are my ideas.

Option 1 : After the cause of Youkai Rebellion, Reimu`s Gohei and Marisa`s Mini-Hakkero is overflowing with darkness so both of them must find the one who can purify their weapons until it turn into tsukumogami, stage 6 boss has the ability to prevent weapons to turn into tsukumogami while extra stage boss is the one who can purify weapons.

Option 2 : Raiko Horikawa is the preview of TH15, her western clothes influence about 90`s musicians, TH15 is about Youkai musician wars.
Reimu was teamed with Lunasa, Marisa was teamed with Lyrica and Sakuya/Sanae was teamed with Merlin.

Option 3 : Someone from Outside world has invaded Gensokyo to find the Moriya group for revenge, because Suwako is a murderer in the past.

Option 4 : Youkai Rebellion isn`t finished yet, a big army of Youkai will avenge Sukuna, Stage 6 boss is the another Oni while extra stage boss is Konngara`s underling.

Option 5 : Armageddon, final touhou game, all youkai from Gensokyo will be killed, Marisa died after defeating the Extra stage boss, Reimu died after defeating the Phantasm stage boss.


that`s what inside my mind, so.... any ideas about speculations for TH15?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: wailofthebanshee on August 13, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Konngara`s underling.
let me guess, shingyoku's dad is also a playable character and bosses 1-5 are yuugenmagan's children.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: The Noodles Guy on August 13, 2013, 12:48:32 PM
Youkai causing natural disasters, and Reimu, Marisa and Sanae have to stop her.

Yukari comeback.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 13, 2013, 12:53:03 PM
Beach episode.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Hatateru on August 13, 2013, 01:09:01 PM
Mima

Exploring more powerful youkai species like hikyu, ho-ou, kishin, etc. I think ZUN kinda wore off the novelty of tsukumogami as of late.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Imosa on August 13, 2013, 02:45:16 PM
Beach episode.
I hope there's a volleyball mechanic as the gimmick.

kishin
Oooo this one, please.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: GuardianTempest on August 13, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
Exploring more powerful youkai species like hikyu, ho-ou, kishin, etc. I think ZUN kinda wore off the novelty of tsukumogami as of late.
How about the giant skeleton thing? How would ZUN loli-fy that?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: ToyoRai on August 13, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
How about the giant skeleton thing? How would ZUN loli-fy that?
A girl/woman in an armor made out of bones,
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Hatateru on August 13, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
How about the giant skeleton thing? How would ZUN loli-fy that?

A gashadokuro you mean? Maybe he could give her cool skeletal appendages sticking out of her back or maybe he'd just opt for an easier alternative, like the hone-onna or something
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: nintendonut888 on August 13, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
Eirin's suspicious new drug.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tengukami on August 13, 2013, 05:57:56 PM
Golden Week
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: pineyappled on August 13, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
culture festival
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: UnendingEmpire on August 13, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
Something relating to dead things.

6 - vampire
7 - ghost
8 - immortal
9 - judge of the dead
10 - god
11 - you go to (Former) Hell
12 - Byakuren was sealed away for a very long time
13 - Miko was "dead" for a very long time
14 - Shinmyoumaru's race went to Hell (possibly Former) in the past
15 - A shinigami?  Komachi could use a new pairing buddy, after all
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kenchiwa on August 13, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
Mima


Tell ZUN you'd want to put her in!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zoriri on August 13, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
Beach episode.

Hot spring episode.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 13, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Greek Theme!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on August 13, 2013, 11:37:34 PM
Modernization!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kaze_Senshi on August 13, 2013, 11:38:22 PM
Ninjas!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on August 13, 2013, 11:41:33 PM
We must first think about what we have seen in Touhou as of now.

We've got:

1: Vampire Touhou
2:Ghost Touhou
3:Moon Story Touhou
4:Religion Touhou part 1
5:Underground Touhou
6:Oni Touhou
7:Celestials
8:Religion Story part 2
9:Religion Story part 3
10: Religion Story part 4
11: Western story


Now we can think about what will come next.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Drake on August 13, 2013, 11:53:06 PM
11: Western story
no
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 13, 2013, 11:54:14 PM
no
Snow White theme please!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on August 14, 2013, 12:02:02 AM
no

Small girl and her lucky mallet story. Or something, I can't read Jap, so I have no idea what the story is about.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Drake on August 14, 2013, 12:31:11 AM
More like tsukumogami story.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Formless God on August 14, 2013, 12:46:15 AM
tsukumonogatari (http://i.imgur.com/jImhG1N.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Polaris on August 14, 2013, 01:06:23 AM
TH14 used Issun-boshi as a basis for the story, so maybe another fairy tale might be used for the next game. There's literally no info to go on, though, so I can't really pick a specific one.

I get the feeling Seija might return, seeing as the game seems to have made a big deal about having escaped. Maybe as an Extra stage midboss next time?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: T3hCoM on August 14, 2013, 01:29:29 AM
Probably a Phantasmagoria with characters from TH 10-14. I think it's time for one already.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Sage Ω (Ultima) on August 14, 2013, 01:35:35 AM
Save it for Touhou 16, and Touhou 16.5 will be the next STB game.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Soul Devour on August 14, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
Probably a Phantasmagoria with characters from TH 10-14. I think it's time for one already.

Jeez...how many games has it been? 5 now?

Yeah, I'd be ok with an updated Phantasmagoria.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 14, 2013, 02:29:35 AM
Jeez...how many games has it been? 5 now?
Yeah, I'd be ok with an updated Phantasmagoria.
This!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Yatakarasu on August 14, 2013, 04:28:26 AM
Jeez...how many games has it been? 5 now?

Yeah, I'd be ok with an updated Phantasmagoria.
If so, playable Orin or Okuu plz.

I could go for some Amaterasu, Izanagi, and Susanoo. EX boss could be Izanami or Yamata no Orochi.

More youkai rebellion could be cool as well. Put in some more youkai like: Inugami, Kawauso, Kamaitachi, Onmoraki, ect. Make some really powerful one being the leader.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Rei Scarlette on August 14, 2013, 04:38:58 AM
Phantasmagoria with everybody as playable character. Even Rinnosuke. Especially Rinnosuke. Oh, but Miko is even more important.

They don't need to all have story modes, of course, but if Miko doesn't get one then game is fail

Edit: But you know, the following characters would be nice to see in a Phantasmagoria, no?
Mokou + Kaguya: Because they still weren't playable even when HM came around
Sekibanki: SCREEN FULL OF HEADS AND LASERS, WAT DO
Nazrin: Because why not, who can seriously disagree
Mima: lolno, Absent
Satori: I really think this could make for some very interesting fights if done correctly.
Miko: Miko
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: ToyoRai on August 14, 2013, 05:03:55 AM
We need more winter time.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Aba Matindesu! on August 14, 2013, 05:34:43 AM
Phantasmagoria of Playable Kogasa
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Gpop on August 14, 2013, 06:34:53 AM
Koishi will be in TH15
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Hatateru on August 14, 2013, 07:04:55 AM
Needs more kishin and oni :V
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Yatakarasu on August 14, 2013, 07:14:28 AM
Koishi will be in TH15
Koishi is actually in every game. You just can't see her.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on August 14, 2013, 09:25:09 AM
Science Touhou. Moriya Shrine Conspiracy?
I'd like some kind of Rikako/Yumemi/Chiyuri/Morgan/Muse look-alike. Or well, just some kind of scientist (who isn't a certain kappa).

Have to look at the extra translation first, do anyone have it translated already?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: BL2W on August 14, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
Option 1 : After the cause of Youkai Rebellion, Reimu`s Gohei and Marisa`s Mini-Hakkero is overflowing with darkness so both of them must find the one who can purify their weapons until it turn into tsukumogami, stage 6 boss has the ability to prevent weapons to turn into tsukumogami while extra stage boss is the one who can purify weapons.

Out of the "options" in the OP, this one seems most likely, plot-wise...

As for me? UNDERWATER TOUHOU PLEASE Save for the tsukumogami concept being recycled yet again, DDC has a lot of interesting, unique creatures; I'd like to see more of that, please~
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: SatorKoi57 on August 15, 2013, 12:42:30 AM
If they do make another PoFV, here are the new repersentives I would like to see:

Sanae (Obvious)
The Aki Sisters
Satori
Rin (Possibly Okuu, but not counting on it)
Sekibanki
Benben
Hatatae
One of the FW trio
Tenshi (Suika didn't appear in PoFV, so this may be unlikely, but still a good idea)
Kokoro
Miko
Byakuren
Seiga
Nazrin

And I want Sakuya, Cirno and Reisen to return.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 15, 2013, 12:50:08 AM
If they do make another PoFV, here are the new repersentives I would like to see:

Sanae (Obvious)
The Aki Sisters
Satori
Rin (Possibly Okuu, but not counting on it)
Sekibanki
Benben
Hatatae
One of the FW trio
Tenshi (Suika didn't appear in PoFV, so this may be unlikely, but still a good idea)
Kokoro
Miko
Byakuren
Seiga
Nazrin

And I want Sakuya, Cirno and Reisen to return.
Woah woah Sekibenki?! What about the final boss Sukuna of TH 14.
-insert big ass complaint here-
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: SatorKoi57 on August 15, 2013, 01:00:41 AM
Playable Sekibenki just sounds cooler to me. Dunno why.

And actually, Suwako and Yoshika were in planning, but both got dropped at the last minute.

Sukuna is a maybe/maybe not deal like with Utsuho.

Also, Aya needs to return. Nuff said.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Rei Scarlette on August 15, 2013, 01:24:38 AM
Woah woah Sekibenki?! What about the final boss Sukuna of TH 14.
-insert big ass complaint here-

Sekibanki is the only good DDC character anyways. (just kidding, really. Sekibanki is still best though)

----------------

Here's my other list that I just made up, pulling 1 character from each main game: (and by that I mean "full number" shooters)

Reimu
Marisa
Aya --- These three will be the main player characters. Story modes default unlocked.
Rumia (not yet playable and probably interesting)
Alice
Mokou
Kaguya (what, one character? who said anything about one per game, not me, nope)
Shikieiki
Suwako (Kanako's sprite would probably be a bit large... else, she'd be an equally good choice)
Utsuho
Murasa (ANCHORS) -or-
Ichirin (PAWNCHes) -or-
Nazrin (I think she deserves the spot more, but perhaps not too likely)
Miko
Sekibanki
New TH15 boss
New TH15 final boss

And that leaves us with... 15 characters.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: T3hCoM on August 15, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
Yeah, I'd love to see playable Sekibanki too.

---------

And I might as well throw in my dream Phantasmagoria lineup, too. (At least 2 characters from each game)

- Reimu
- Marisa
- Sanae
- Hina
- Parsee
- Orin
- Kogasa
- Murasa
- Seiga
- Tojiko
- Sekibanki
- Either Benben or Yatsuhashi, maybe both
- Kasen (I could see her pulling an Aya by making her first game appearance)
- Eihter Aya or Hatate
- Main boss's lackey
- Main boss
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Neal Kawashiro on August 15, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
slendy gets lolified (western clothes like raiko) and big youkai war starts, the weapons of reimu, marisa and sakuya become tsukumogami and become the stage four bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: MewMewHeart on August 15, 2013, 04:32:40 AM
slendy gets lolified (western clothes like raiko) and big youkai war starts, the weapons of reimu, marisa and sakuya become tsukumogami and become the stage four bosses.
SLENDERMAN IN MY TOUHOU?! Shut up and take my money!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Failure McFailFace on August 15, 2013, 05:40:16 AM
Hmm... How about we take a look at the games, first.


If you look at the numbers of the games, you can see that the Phantasmagorias are all on multiples of 3. (PoDD and PoFV are on 3 and 9, respectively.)

Since the next game is Touhou 15, then it could be another Phantasmagoria.

Look at the factors of 3 and 9:
3=3*1
9=3*3

If TH15 is a Phantasmagoria, the it would be continuing the pattern:
15=3*5

The 2nd factor is always an odd number.

I don't have a character list, sorry.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 15, 2013, 06:14:19 AM
Anyone else thinking that we might get to visit the Outside World some time? We keep getting Outside World references in the Religion arc:
- Moriya Shrine came from the Outside World
- WaHH implied that the youkai are planning something that has to do with the Outside World
- Mamizou also came from there
- And now Raiko got her power from the Outside World also

Maybe this will be the beginning of the Outside World arc?

And all of this clearly means we never see Mima because she has gone to and ruled the OutsideWorld
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on August 15, 2013, 08:19:33 AM
Nah, for a new PoFV there should definitely be Seija and Sukuna.
Dem gimmicks.
And Mima lol

I still wish for another science-themed touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 15, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
If we're going by PoFV structure, then the roster probably would be:

Playable characters : Reimu, Marisa, Sanae. And maybe Youmu and Sakuya.
Team(9) tier characters : Nazrin, Sekibanki, Kogasa, and Kyouko seems to be the most plausible IMO
Stronger characters: Benben/Yatsuhashi, Futo/Tojiko
New characters. One will continue to appear in future games while the other get forgotten.
Yuuka : Because she's Yuuka
New character - subfinal boss
New character - final boss
 
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Fonzi on August 15, 2013, 09:53:39 AM
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beach episode

Quote
Golden Week

Quote
culture festival

Quote
hot-springs episode

Tanabata episode or any other shrine festival episode. Or X-mas special.

Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 15, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Wait...

Notice how ZUN has been creating more musical characters recently? Kyouko + Mystia punk band, musical instrument tsukumogamis...

TH15 will be a rhytm game I called it. Prismriver Sisters, Kyouko, Mystia, and Tsukumo sisters + Raiko will be the playable characters.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zerviscos on August 15, 2013, 12:58:17 PM
What will happen?

I'm betting everything I have that ZUN will include more Ladies in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Imosa on August 15, 2013, 03:44:24 PM
Hmm... How about we take a look at the games, first.


If you look at the numbers of the games, you can see that the Phantasmagorias are all on multiples of 3. (PoDD and PoFV are on 3 and 9, respectively.)

Since the next game is Touhou 15, then it could be another Phantasmagoria.

Look at the factors of 3 and 9:
3=3*1
9=3*3

If TH15 is a Phantasmagoria, the it would be continuing the pattern:
15=3*5

The 2nd factor is always an odd number.

I don't have a character list, sorry.
Something tells me ZUN isn't to concerned with being numerically strict. But also, consider that you are extrapolating from 2 data points. If the the second Phantasmagoria has been an even number you could say there's a trend in alternating even and odd numbers.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: PhantasmStardust on August 15, 2013, 05:11:18 PM
Maybe 15 will be a Phantasmagoria game with all of the music-related characters involved?
Maybe like a musical war will occur and it gets too noisy so Reimu comes to stop it.....and maybe DJ Miko  :P

Or just another introduction of another religious group and/or Atheism from the outside world.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: UnendingEmpire on August 15, 2013, 08:31:03 PM
Or, everything we've predicted thus far is one game.

Phantasmagoria game
Lots of music characters
Involves dead things
Yet another religious establishment

Maybe a final boss who is a church organ tsukogami?  (Suddenly, I'm thinking of what EX-Lunasa would look like)
or Mima

Dead characters and music characters could each get some unique gimmick on top of their own personal shtick (Murasa's anchors, good old-fashioned Prismriver beatdowns, etc.) which could be interesting.  And Seija's there for some odd reason, because Seija.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on August 15, 2013, 10:13:21 PM
People are tired of tsukumogami already? There've been new youjuu characters (animal youkai) in every game from PCB to TD and no one was complaining. Is this the oppression of the tools?

Anyway, I hope we don't get another Phantasmagoria game. Luckily I doubt ZUN will make one since he probably would have done so by now if he was interested.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tyraxx on August 15, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
Phantasmagoria would be really cool.
Still one of my favorite part.
I still remember the earlier Touhou games (6,7,8,...).
They all had so many different features.
And then ZUN started with MoF and it became so featureless.
Luckily than UFO started with some more features again.
Still, I'd like to have game with new and lot of features.
Though Phantasmagoria would also be cool.
Also, I hope that ZUN someday will release a part (maybe a fighting-part), where they're all extra stage bosses, playable.
This way, no one would be TOO strong, to put into the game.

Oh, and few features like re-watch the endings. (Always making me furious, if I wanted to check an ending again)
And maybe also a function to fast-foward the music, in the music room (sth I just urged for).

BTW, just noticed that th14 is not connected to th13, story-wise.
Well, I haven't finished playing yet, so don't tell me if there's a connection in story.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zoriri on August 16, 2013, 12:04:18 AM
Or X-mas special.
Loli Santa for final boss.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kenchiwa on August 16, 2013, 01:29:00 AM
or Mima


Mima's okay! Don't back slash her! I'll ask ZUN. Fan treat!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kenchiwa on August 16, 2013, 01:30:26 AM

And all of this clearly means we never see Mima because she has gone to and ruled the OutsideWorld


Woah
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kenchiwa on August 16, 2013, 01:31:41 AM
And Mima lol



Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Imosa on August 16, 2013, 02:15:48 AM

Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.
This is the first I'm ever hearing of this.

Now I want to see a music disk with Maribel and Renko where the last line is something like "I guess we can thank Her Lordship Mima for all of this". The scene cuts with Mary and Renko laughing whole heartily.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Starxsword on August 16, 2013, 03:44:46 AM
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Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.

Is there a source for this assertion? It sounds bogus to me.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: M M on August 16, 2013, 04:19:10 AM
How about we have a game with Kanako playable.

SA: goes to the shrine for answers. The one who started all that shit is absent, get some Sanae and Suwako.
UNL: nuclear pit, conspiracy stuff. Suwako and Sanae are playable.
HM: game's about popularity and religion, the spokeswoman of shinto is not playable.
DDC: Sakuya comes back.

Invent something about every character's tool turning into youkai and starting fights and Kanako's onbashira being one of those. Yukari's too lazy to keep barriers, Mima comes back to steal the Yin Yang to doom Gensokyo, add some Kogasa/Cirno and bam, everyone's happy.
Shinki is the extra boss for good measure.


Why do you guys like Mima?!?!

The pose she does while bombing is glorious!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on August 16, 2013, 04:33:49 AM
As far as I can tell, this is the only place where people seem to seriously care about Mima. Or I guess it could be a slightly more elaborate joke than usual. I think the IP issue is probably bogus, but that leads the much more compelling conclusion that ZUN actually doesn't care about Mima at all. Which might break a few hearts I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: game2011 on August 16, 2013, 05:14:11 AM

Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.
That's not true.  ZUN owns everything in the PC-98 games, so he is free to use those characters whenever he wants to.  He just doesn't want to use them anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zil on August 16, 2013, 05:58:54 AM
In PoDD, it's possible to get 5 Mimas onscreen at once, and I orgasm every time it happens.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on August 16, 2013, 08:48:57 AM
Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.
She's the infamous old main character who never appears :P
About the copyright thing, that sounds really stupid. That seems like just another unexplained rumor to me.

Also, you don't have to triple post you know.
In PoDD, it's possible to get 5 Mimas onscreen at once, and I orgasm every time it happens.
Since I'm pretty bad at PoDD, how does that work? It seems... interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Nyyl on August 16, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
As far as I can tell, this is the only place where people seem to seriously care about Mima
No, it's everywhere. It's borderline meme material honestly, I never even take anyone seriously when they talk about Mima
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on August 16, 2013, 09:10:39 AM
No, it's everywhere. It's borderline meme material honestly, I never even take anyone seriously when they talk about Mima

The meme is everywhere, but some people here seem terrifyingly serious about it. Or they're just more committed to the joke.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tengukami on August 16, 2013, 09:23:03 AM
that leads the much more compelling conclusion that ZUN actually doesn't care about Mima at all. Which might break a few hearts I guess.

I think you're right. Exhibit A (http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/92#more-92):
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Q: What?s happened to the older characters? Like Alice, Yuka-san, and Mima-sama ?
ZUN: Well, it would be a huge pain to try to bring in older characters all the time. They?d show up, and everyone would be, ?Where have you been all this time!?? It?d be weird to fit them into the story. And, I?d rather make new characters. Of course, I won?t say they?ll never show up again ? Hm, Genjii? Well, Reimu can fly, so she doesn?t need him anymore. *g* He?s kind of a Master Roshi character. But he?s a turtle, and turtles are long-lived. He?s probably peacefully living out his days in a pond behind the shrine.
You hear that, Mima fans? Bringing her back would be "a huge pain", it'd be "weird" to resurrect her, and he'd "rather make new characters". And before you jump all over "I won't say they'll never show up again", well, in my experience with interviewing, people don't like to be on record speaking in absolutes, so they usually hedge their bets by adding some "of course, never say never" caveat after they're done saying how they really feel. And we see how ZUN really feels.

The meme is everywhere, but some people here seem terrifyingly serious about it. Or they're just more committed to the joke.
I think you answered you're own question - there may indeed be a handful of dead serious Mima fans, who believe all the signs are there that she will return, and that ZUN in fact has an obligation to bring her back. But I think most of these guys are just familiar with the meme, and see "bring Mima back!" as some kind of badge of being an old school Touhou fan.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 16, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
I was just going along with the meme, just saying :P

I'm serious that we might see more stuff about the Outside World in future games, though. Maybe next game will have a smartphone tsukumogami...
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on August 16, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
I'm more of a pc98seihou fan in general, not specifically a Mima fan, but since Mima is the most (in)famous, she's the most fun to use.
Well, Alice and Yuuka did come back in the Windows Era. So there's nothing saying that it's impossible Mima won't. But I do remember ZUN saying something about him not liking Mima's character that much in one of his comments (I think it was in one of the oldest games) and since she haven't come back yet, it's probably true that Alice and Yuuka were just his favorites of the old characters (except Reimu and Marisa of course) and that the pc98 characters that haven't come back yet might never get to.

Other than that, I like Mima simply because she was Marisas teacher (I guess? Not entirely sure if canon).
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 16, 2013, 02:04:23 PM
Wait...next game will be...Tsukumogami Wars!

Main character will be
MEDICINE!
. After hearing how the Tsukumos and Raiko got new power, she also demand to get it so she can get stronger. Same layout as Fairy Wars, you can go after Benben, Yatsuhashi, or Raiko in different orders. Extra Boss will be
KOKORO!, who thinks getting outside power is silly
.

Kogasa will not appear at all because that will be more surprising
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Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tengukami on August 16, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
Well, Alice and Yuuka did come back in the Windows Era. So there's nothing saying that it's impossible Mima won't
Do check the date of the interview ...
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zil on August 16, 2013, 04:10:01 PM
Since I'm pretty bad at PoDD, how does that work? It seems... interesting.
Play as Mima versus Mima, putting the Mima count at 2. Then one of the Mimas has to trigger a boss attack, which, given that you're playing Mima, is Mima, and so raises the Mima count to 3. Then the hard part: you both have to use a spell at the same time (the same frame?) so your spell cut-ins, which are images of Mima, display simultaneously. That gives you two more Mimas, bringing the Mima count to a whopping FIVE MIMAS.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: UnendingEmpire on August 16, 2013, 04:20:46 PM
I think you answered you're own question - there may indeed be a handful of dead serious Mima fans, who believe all the signs are there that she will return, and that ZUN in fact has an obligation to bring her back. But I think most of these guys are just familiar with the meme, and see "bring Mima back!" as some kind of badge of being an old school Touhou fan.
The meme ones annoy me a little, as they seem to fail to recognize Mima as a whole character rather than a joke :\
I still think she'd be great in HM, though
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tengukami on August 16, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Proof (http://badjellyblog.com/2013/04/21/cucumber-and-beer-soup/) that TH15 will feature Nitori.

EDIT: Not to mention the blogger's name!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Yuka.k on August 16, 2013, 07:02:25 PM

Why do you guys like Mima?!?! ZUN doesn't own copyright of her anymore, Amusement Makers does.

Well I never heard that, and well would be good to see Mima around after all this time don't you think?
And lately I was playing touhou 5 and playing as Mima was pretty good
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: final_agent on August 26, 2013, 12:26:58 AM
Possibly another PoFV at this point? I mean, it has been a while.

It could be used to resolve the 'Item War' between youkai created from items and humans who use items a lot, some factions wanting to recruit the new youkai while others want to make sure they don't go far in creating that reverse Gensokyo that would have been created during the last game. Kokoro, Kogasa... hmm, we'll need more item youkai actually besides the few added in 14...
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on August 26, 2013, 04:07:31 PM
Not really TH15, but I get the feeling that Raiko would be playable in the next fighting game. Or at least featured in Orbidden Scrollery. Her whole 'Outside World power' schtick would be wasted if she just became an extra boss that never appears again. Nope totally not looking at you Flandre and Mokou
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Drake on August 26, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
I've actually heard that ZUN doesn't own the IP of PC-98 things from quite a few people, actually!

It's still total bullshit though. Everyone hears it from each other and it spreads because it's an easy way for people to justify ZUN not doing things with the older games that doesn't end up with "he doesn't like it/doesn't want to".

I mean I just googled "ZUN doesn't own PC-98" and I ended up with Onimaru of all people claiming this. Recently.
Quote from: http://sentrygun.com/touhou/scroll/index.php?topic=8.msg502#msg502
It is generally common knowledge that when he left Amusement Makers to work on his own projects: the Windows series, he was not able (or did not try) to retain the rights to all of the characters from the first 5 Touhou games. You have to remember that Amusement Makers was nothing more than a small student group at a university in Tokyo. Because of this, it is not a well documented thing and I can't easily make any explicit citation. Nevertheless, the PC-98 series was a college project and it is very likely that ZUN could have retained all the rights if he had wanted to. But he either was not able to, or didn't particularly care to.
Like what no. How can you say that you have no citation and Amusement Makers is a student group and it isn't well-documented and he "could have kept the rights if he wanted to", but still just assume that he doesn't own the rights anyways and then go on to say he wasn't able or didn't care.

"Common knowledge" is just codeword for "unsubstantiated claims too many people take for granted as fact".
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: The Real MaZe on August 28, 2013, 03:55:09 PM
Personally I hope it'll be like DDC except with a better resource system. That's about all.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: SeasideCharizard on August 28, 2013, 03:59:50 PM
Quote
Amusement Makers

Do we seriously have to go through this again

Okay I guess we do

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.1 (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.1)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.2 (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.2)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.3 (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.3)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.4 (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.4)
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.5 (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Akyu%27s_Untouched_Score_vol.5)

On an on-topic note, a new Phantasmagoria sounds nice at this point, although since it seems we've gone into a totally new set of games, maybe that can wait for a bit. For a prediction, I'm guessing the next game is probably going to have nothing to do with Touhou 14.

It seems like the recent plot entirely resolved itself within a single game, although there are some hints here and there for something like a Tsukumogami arc. If the rebellion continues to be mentioned, then I guess we really do have another chain of events on our hands.

TBH I'm not really sure what ZUN's going to do at this point; it's all in a rather unpredictable state.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Failure McFailFace on September 01, 2013, 04:09:28 AM
On an on-topic note, a new Phantasmagoria sounds nice at this point, although since it seems we've gone into a totally new set of games, maybe that can wait for a bit. For a prediction, I'm guessing the next game is probably going to have nothing to do with Touhou 14.


It's been 11 games since PoFV. We really need a new Phantasmagoria, due to the game count (Eleven??) and the PoXX pattern (happens on odd multiples of 3).

If it is a PoXX game, then have at least 1 representative from each game from EoSD:



Character Count: A maximum of 26 characters, if all characters listed make it in.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: ToyoRai on September 02, 2013, 02:17:34 PM
I wish that the next game would show us a kishin. Maybe Suiki, but showing more of them wouldn't hurt.
Any new kishins should be called Kinki, Fuuki or Ongyoki (maybe joking)
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Jellyfish on September 06, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
It's been 11 games since PoFV. We really need a new Phantasmagoria, due to the game count (Eleven??) and the PoXX pattern (happens on odd multiples of 3).

If it is a PoXX game, then have at least 1 representative from each game from EoSD:

Snip

Character Count: A maximum of 26 characters, if all characters listed make it in.

PoFV had 14(?) characters about. A lot of the time we get Stage 5 bosses I think, and I hope some forgotten character from some forgotten hill makes it in to PoXX so that we can all love her again.
I'm not sure the fighting game representatives will make a cameo here, but then again, Suika was a shottype in SA. As far as Final Bosses go, only Yuuka (!) was a final boss playable for PoFV, so I'm not getting my hopes too high. I hope the religion arc has ended full stop with HM, because it makes me confuzzled very much. I also hope more stage 1 and stage 2 from games after 10 come here; Minoriko and her sister, Hina, Parsee, Yamame, Yuyuko, Nazrin, Kyouko and Kogasa (she already appeared so much everywhere, I wouldn't be surprised *cough* if she appeared here) kinda needs more love. I mean, Mystia and Cirno did get in, right? And Tewi, some rabbit from IN that was a midboss. At least one of them will be in the next Phantasmagoria game, I think.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kirnis on September 06, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Youmu playable again,
Alice playable
Will feature a Futakuchi-onna
And story will be based on another fairy tale,
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on September 06, 2013, 03:18:14 PM
I think a  satsuKirin would be interesting to see :v
A new Phantasmagoria or Photo game might be cool, but please, less major reappearing characters in that case (except the given ones of course, like Reimu/Marisa and maybe Sanae).
Anyways, I thought ZUN said something about revealing more about Sakuyas past? Or is that just for the comics/books.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TresserT on September 07, 2013, 04:23:01 AM
A new Phantasmagoria or Photo game might be cool, but please, less major reappearing characters in that case (except the given ones of course, like Reimu/Marisa and maybe Sanae).

Yeah, if PoFV is anything to go bye all the returning characters will either be obvious player characters (Reimu, Marisa, Sakuya, etc.) or minor, relatively weak characters (Mystia, Prismrivers, Tewi, etc.). Or Yuuka.

So, going by those guidelines, here's my list.

Reimu
Marisa
Sakuya
Sanae
Youmu
At least 3 new characters
A cameo (I'd prefer PC-98, but I find an early windows character more likely)
Hina/Momiji (Aki sisters are usually treated as a pair, Nitori is already in SA and HM)
Yamame (Yuugi is too strong, I can't imagine why Parsee would leave her bridge)
Ichirin/Nazrin (Everyone else is too strong)
Seiga/Yoshika (Futa,Soga,Miko,Mamizou are too plot relevant, Kyouku is part of the Myouren so doesn't work well for a 10D rep)
Wakasagihime/Sekibanki/Kagerou/Raiko (long list... The Tsukumos are a pair, Sukuna is very plor relevant, Seija is plot relevant but it would still be awesome to have her! Reverse phantasmagoria! Despite being an EX boss, Raiko is still just a tsukumogami. Not crazy powerful like some others)
Kogasa (Because she's Kogasa)

Of course, with ZUN it's really pointless to try and find patterns so this woukd probably never happen  :P
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: steamcat on September 08, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Considering that almost all Touhou games are based of traditional Japanese mythology, with the exception of ones like SA, (TH14 = The Little Samurai who Sailed in a Noodle Bowl and Fought with a Needle/ TH8 = Princess Kaguya of the Moon) I'd consider looking at what traditional Japanese stories ZUN could build off of. I wouldn't mind seeing Urashima and the Kingdom Beneath the Sea being Touhou-fied.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on September 09, 2013, 03:41:55 AM
Urashima is already mentioned in SSiB.

Momotaro perhaps?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on September 09, 2013, 04:05:04 PM
The Kingdom Beneath the Sea is the Lunar Capital. Urashima got time-warped as part of a plot by Eirin to make sure no one would take his story seriously/discourage people from seeking out the Lunar Capital. It was the merciful option, since she was just going to kill him until Toyohime begged her not. Just another little bit of moon-sea symbolism.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: K+ ~ Bake-Danuki on September 11, 2013, 02:24:53 AM
Phantasmagoria
Phantasm Boss - Watatsuki's
Mima
Playable:
Kogasa
Seija
Sekibanki
Murasa
Patchouli
Parsee

and the realization that Flandre is really Rumia in disguise
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: qMyon on September 11, 2013, 08:30:10 AM
Whatever it is, you can be certain there'll be plenty of explodoboomanation-nanigans going.

I could see the Japanese folk-tale stuff going, though. Or might he switch things up and go with some western folklore instead?

Or maybe a crossover of Uwabami Breakers?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Gray21oh on September 19, 2013, 09:11:33 AM
I would image if it's going to be all western it would be called Seihou. *ba dum tss*
I would image there will be a mixture of east and west for the next game and it does seem that it would be a likely approach. If anything I thought most of DDC's characters reminisced that of the PC-98 characters and I think the next few games could be reflecting upon the structure then.

Well obviously with a much more solid engine and without any eye straining palettes that obscure bullets.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Zork787 on September 22, 2013, 03:17:43 AM
maybe Touhou 15 will be a Touhouification of the Legend of King Arthur? (http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/chansub-global-emoticon-ddc6e3a8732cb50f-25x28.png)

As for teh bosses, we could have Excalibur Youkaiafied, personification's of the Knights and Arthru himself as well as The Lady of the Lake as the Extra boss although the Personified Excalibur could fill the extra stage boss roll as well, but that's just wishful thinking seeing as the Arthurian Legend is of Scottish Origin and I'm Scottish myself so yeah (http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/chansub-global-emoticon-ddc6e3a8732cb50f-25x28.png)
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: BL2W on September 22, 2013, 04:36:08 AM
Not to shoot down the idea, but I've got a gut feeling that ZUN won't be doing a heavily Western Touhou game until one of the following two factors occurs:

1. ZUN runs out of Asian myths, legends, and stories to base his games off of (which I HIGHLY DOUBT will be happening any time soon, considering just how many I'm sure there are remaining)...

2. Something in or about the West grasps ZUN's attention so strongly that he feels the unbearable urge to turn it into a Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on September 22, 2013, 04:54:08 AM
Not to shoot down the idea, but I've got a gut feeling that ZUN won't be doing a heavily Western Touhou game until one of the following two factors occurs:

1. ZUN runs out of Asian myths, legends, and stories to base his games off of (which I HIGHLY DOUBT will be happening any time soon, considering just how many I'm sure there are remaining)...

2. Something in or about the West grasps ZUN's attention so strongly that he feels the unbearable urge to turn it into a Touhou.

This I wish will happen. . .

Maybe ZUN will make an other Photography game that actually runs by stages like a regular Danmaku game?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Failure McFailFace on September 22, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
I have a new idea:

Instead of my idea being Touhou 15, it's 15.5: Peace and Chaos Border (PaCB)

Essentially, it's a spin-off game that is a boss rush of every single boss and midboss since EoSD.

Plot Point: Yukari accidentally destroyed the border between order and chaos and is too lazy to fix it, and all of the bosses start to attack Reimu and co., where they go to solve the incident.

Along with that, the bosses also have their respective game gimmicks: Yuyuko has cherry blossoms, Remilia has nothing at all, Byakeren has her UFO's, Miko's divine spirit desires, the Dwarf's autocollect-fragment-get, etc.

Yukari is the final boss. An embodiment of chaos is the EX boss.

Playable Characters:
All characters get their respective

And no, you don't get your partner system in IN or SA, due to the chaos in Gensyoko.

And no, the fighting games don't count, if they don't get danmaku patterns.


I'm really overthinking this.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: gitaaa on September 22, 2013, 01:45:08 PM
Some setting that features Kasen.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Alcoraiden on October 01, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
I'd be so thrilled to see Touhou 14.5 as a photography game with PC98 folks. This would allow Mima, Shinki, Sariel, etc. to return without causing a big kerfuffle in a main game. ZUN already said he'd find it hard to bring some of the 98 folks back, meaning we'll probably not see them unless he throws them into a spinoff, so I can imagine him shutting the fandom up with this once and for all. :P Also I'd like to see Yuuka in a non-Phantasmagoria game so she can have actual spell cards; that'd be cool. He could even put in Genji as a joke if he wanted, there. So you'd have Sariel, Konngara, Shinki, Yuuka, Chiyuri/etc. (ye gods I know nothing about 3), Mima, Marisa, and little Alice if he's okay doing the time warp. (Or Alice not using dolls, whatever.)

Otherwise, Touhou 15...hmm. He seems to have exhausted his desire for historical basis (Shoutoku etc.), so I expect he'll stick to legends for a while. I'm guessing playable character #3 will either be Sanae or Sakuya, since he seems to like those; I'm not sure I foresee Youmu coming back as one.  Can't say which legend, though.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Limian on October 01, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
I'd be so thrilled to see Touhou 14.5 as a photography game with PC98 folks. This would allow Mima, Shinki, Sariel, etc. to return without causing a big kerfuffle in a main game. ZUN already said he'd find it hard to bring some of the 98 folks back, meaning we'll probably not see them unless he throws them into a spinoff, so I can imagine him shutting the fandom up with this once and for all. :P Also I'd like to see Yuuka in a non-Phantasmagoria game so she can have actual spell cards; that'd be cool. He could even put in Genji as a joke if he wanted, there. So you'd have Sariel, Konngara, Shinki, Yuuka, Chiyuri/etc. (ye gods I know nothing about 3), Mima, Marisa, and little Alice if he's okay doing the time warp. (Or Alice not using dolls, whatever.)
Eh, aside from not being a very realistic possibility, it would also seem very forced and unsatisfying to see all the PC-98 characters back without any explanation (and any dialogue!). I'd be happy to see them back, but ultimately, I would want them to make even more (and relevant!) appearances.
I could, however, see him make a photo game with TD/HM/DDC/th15 characters as 15.5, seeing as it would fit all of the numbering scheme (9.5 -> 12.5 -> 15.5), the release dates of the other photo games (December 2005/March 2010/late 2014?) and the number of characters (25/27+Hatate)/16 plus 7+ from th15, maybe the 3 fairies as well).

Otherwise, Touhou 15...hmm. He seems to have exhausted his desire for historical basis (Shoutoku etc.), so I expect he'll stick to legends for a while. I'm guessing playable character #3 will either be Sanae or Sakuya, since he seems to like those; I'm not sure I foresee Youmu coming back as one.  Can't say which legend, though.
Exhausted? TD has been the only strongly history-based game (with a bit for Yuyuko and Kokoro as well), and there's a lot more history he hasn't covered yet. Not sure why you think he's stopping there. That said, I find mythological creatures more charming than historical figures. :V There's something really fun about oni, lunarians, poltergeists, rokurokubi etc.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Alcoraiden on October 01, 2013, 05:15:58 PM
Eh, aside from not being a very realistic possibility, it would also seem very forced and unsatisfying to see all the PC-98 characters back without any explanation (and any dialogue!). I'd be happy to see them back, but ultimately, I would want them to make even more (and relevant!) appearances.

Except ZUN said that having them make relevant appearances was really hard. It seems like it wouldn't be as awkward to put them in a side thing, where they don't need explanation.

Exhausted? TD has been the only strongly history-based game (with a bit for Yuyuko and Kokoro as well), and there's a lot more history he hasn't covered yet. Not sure why you think he's stopping there. That said, I find mythological creatures more charming than historical figures. :V There's something really fun about oni, lunarians, poltergeists, rokurokubi etc.

Yeah, but he did three entire games about history. Byakuren is actually semi-historical; at least, her brother is, and she was mentioned but not named in an obscure text, I think. So 12, 13, and 13.5 are actively based around the historical folks. Once Miko sort of faded from the picture in 14, he went back to mythology, so I expect it to stay there.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Haganeproductio on October 01, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
It would be nice if characters from older games appeared (don't have to from PC98). Either as bosses or playable characters.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: nintendonut888 on October 01, 2013, 05:37:05 PM
Bees.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Sedrife on October 01, 2013, 06:21:17 PM
Since ZUN has admitted that his Touhou is inspiration from his life experience, I more than welcome if he dares to make his experience of North America from AWA integrated into his new Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on October 01, 2013, 06:53:41 PM
Since ZUN has admitted that his Touhou is inspiration from his life experience, I more than welcome if he dares to make his experience of North America from AWA integrated into his new Touhou.

Not sure if I know how he'd integrate said experience in the next game. Maybe a few more western creatures, then?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Ruka on October 01, 2013, 08:09:19 PM
Not sure if I know how he'd integrate said experience in the next game. Maybe a few more western creatures, then?
I'd facepalm if I saw a Sasquatch yokai or something similar.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Sedrife on October 01, 2013, 09:30:05 PM
I'd facepalm if I saw a Sasquatch yokai or something similar.

Apparently on his way back, ZUN saw a fireball in the sky and twitted about it.

"夕飯の時のタクシーの運ちゃんが何か「あそこに火の玉が飛んでるぞ」みたいな事を言っててどうせ飛行機か何かだろうと思ってたが、今朝のTVでミステリアスファイヤーボールというニュースがやってた。アメリカはまだまだ謎に包まれている"

I was wondering what he was talking about, then I googled it and found out what it was: http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/09/fireball_seen_in_alabama_skies.html

If not Houjuu Nue prank, he might get some inspiration or two with the next Touhou or Music CD along with the topic of "Fireball from the Space".
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on October 02, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
I could, however, see him make a photo game with TD/HM/DDC/th15 characters as 15.5, seeing as it would fit all of the numbering scheme (9.5 -> 12.5 -> 15.5), the release dates of the other photo games (December 2005/March 2010/late 2014?) and the number of characters (25/27+Hatate)/16 plus 7+ from th15, maybe the 3 fairies as well).

Well, rather than looking for an arbitrary numerical pattern, it's probably simpler to think of it in terms of how many characters are added. Apparently "about three games" is standard, although it's worth nothing that DS covered a few that were missed by StB, which could explain the difference there.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Ibaraki on October 03, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
I'd facepalm if I saw a Sasquatch yokai or something similar.
or a Cthulhu, if it counts.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 07, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
I wouldn't mind new characters, but I think I will like it if at least 1 or 2 PC-98 characters came back but with a bit of different canon like Alice. (Mima plz. I'm thinking more of Sara, Yumemi, Elly and such.) I will love it even more if ZUN made another photography game, but with TD,DDC, Kokoro and any other character he missed from the pass.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Alcoraiden on October 09, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
Does Alice actually have different canon? We just know she started using tons of dolls, but she used dolls in Stage 3 of Mystic Square anyway. So...she could easily be the same person.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 11, 2013, 12:14:11 AM
Well in that case it's just more canon. . . .I mostly mean from how Shinki created everything in Makai, yet how Alice was once Human and now living in the Forest of Magic.

We still have a chance for Lily White having a spell card!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: K+ ~ Bake-Danuki on October 11, 2013, 03:40:31 AM
We still have a chance for Lily White having a spell card!
I second this, in addition to Koakuma, Daiyousei, and Momiji getting official art.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 11, 2013, 04:01:14 AM
Sad that Suika, Iku, and Tenshi got rough designs if they were in a danmaku game, but Mid-stage bosses got nothing. -_-
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/thumb/0/06/Suika_rough.jpg/300px-Suika_rough.jpg)
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/thumb/1/16/MAGNet_20100502_4_Tenshi.jpg/300px-MAGNet_20100502_4_Tenshi.jpg)
(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/8/82/MAGNet_20100502_3_Iku.jpg)
He had time for these though. . .
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Darkness1 on October 11, 2013, 04:24:47 AM
Well in that case it's just more canon. . . .I mostly mean from how Shinki created everything in Makai, yet how Alice was once Human and now living in the Forest of Magic.
I'm not sure, but does it say in MS that Alice actually was created by Shinki? (I should probably read the translated dialogue/story somewhere.)
If not, It could still be possible that she was a human, even if she was in Makai.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Szayelaporro Granz on October 11, 2013, 07:56:01 AM
I wouldn't mind new characters, but I think I will like it if at least 1 or 2 PC-98 characters came back but with a bit of different canon like Alice. (Mima plz. I'm thinking more of Sara, Yumemi, Elly and such.) I will love it even more if ZUN made another photography game, but with TD,DDC, Kokoro and any other character he missed from the past.

Speaking about photography games, we still need to see Mystia and Yuuka yet. What if pacifist characters like Rinnosuke, Akyuu and/or Kasen appear? xD I can imagine Seija's photography spellcard will be hell for everyone.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Failure McFailFace on October 11, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
If ZUN makes a game about his trip to AWA 2013, I have a feeling that more "Western" youkai will be in it, along with the EX boss being another alien that came to Gensyoko via the Atlanta Fireball...
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: nintendonut888 on October 11, 2013, 07:49:38 PM
I'm not sure, but does it say in MS that Alice actually was created by Shinki? (I should probably read the translated dialogue/story somewhere.)
If not, It could still be possible that she was a human, even if she was in Makai.

No, it does not. Shinki says that everything in Makai is created by her, but this does not mean Alice herself is among the things she created. There is absolutely no mention of her being a native of Makai, and if she ever were, it's clearly been retconned by now since PMiSS says she was a normal human who became a youkai through her magical studies.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 13, 2013, 02:55:02 AM
Derp :derp:, yeah, I just had blank moment back there.
I don't know why, but I have the sudden urge of wanting Hina to re-appear.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on October 14, 2013, 08:55:41 AM
I second this, in addition to Koakuma, Daiyousei, and Momiji getting official art.

Momiji is one thing, but it's important to remember that ZUN never even gave Koakuma and Daiyousei names, nor has he written a profile for them, or mentioned them in any official works. As far he's concerned they're a generic fairy and a generic demon who are no more important than the slightly bigger fairies that shoot bigger patterns, or the giant divine spirit in TD stage 1. They are non-characters, canonically speaking. I think it's very unlikely for ZUN to ever acknowledge them.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 14, 2013, 10:22:33 PM
Momiji is one thing, but it's important to remember that ZUN never even gave Koakuma and Daiyousei names, nor has he written a profile for them, or mentioned them in any official works. As far he's concerned they're a generic fairy and a generic demon who are no more important than the slightly bigger fairies that shoot bigger patterns, or the giant divine spirit in TD stage 1. They are non-characters, canonically speaking. I think it's very unlikely for ZUN to ever acknowledge them.

No. (We can dream though, and cameo appearances also count becuase, yes Daiyousei playing Hide-and-seek with Cirno meant a lot to me . . .)
ZUN did plan rough sketches for them and spellcards, but just never came to be.  :(


(http://en.touhouwiki.net/images/thumb/f/fd/KoakumaIOTMIOTE.jpg/180px-KoakumaIOTMIOTE.jpg)
Also this one!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on October 15, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
ZUN did say 'Daiyousei' and 'Koakuma' are actually some kind of species, so the Daiyousei playing hide and seek with Cirno, the Daiyousei facing you as mid-boss in EoSD, and the Daiyousei facing you as mid-boss in Fairy Wars may not be the same fairy. And neither do Koakuma.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Clarste on October 15, 2013, 09:00:13 PM
ZUN did say 'Daiyousei' and 'Koakuma' are actually some kind of species, so the Daiyousei playing hide and seek with Cirno, the Daiyousei facing you as mid-boss in EoSD, and the Daiyousei facing you as mid-boss in Fairy Wars may not be the same fairy. And neither do Koakuma.

Both of their "names" are just descriptions turned into nicknames by the fans. Daiyousei mean "Big Fairy" and Koakuma means "Little Devil". SO that's probably what ZUN meant: big fairies are everywhere after all.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 15, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGGBsM6O1qQkHaxFs_0YXkyWi2Ub5pr1GBtb35Qa1gJqoiQyB5)
I won't believe in the Daiyousei one, but Patchy just has one helper and that's, Koakuma herself!

Putting that aside for now.

I'm hoping that ZUN can actually make another danmaku game like IN with the Last Words section in spell practice.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: cuc on October 18, 2013, 10:29:55 AM
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_former_blog_%22Touhou_Shofu%22_6

When explaining Daiyousei and Koakuma, ZUN only said Koakuma usually lives in SDM. Koakuma being Pache's assistant is fanon.

In the recent "Reader Engineering" talk, the hosts asked him: which characters' popularity surprised him. He answered: characters from Stage 1 and 2 being popular would surprise him. Then he added: "Isn't that Daiyousei? However you look at it, the character only had a bit role. Yet she is treated as a proper character, even gaining some popularity. I recall being surprised when I knew it."

Judging from this reply, I think there's a real chance that Daiyousei's popularity has affected him a little, enough for him to understand that people will perceive those appearances to be the same character.

By the way, recently Daiyousei has shown up again in WaHH 18, together with Cirno. Azuma clearly intended to draw her using the fanon design - with gold gilded wings, but she ended up drawing the wings' design upside down.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 18, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
I guess even the little things can make a difference . . .

Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: sweetings on October 25, 2013, 02:44:11 AM
I think that TH15 is going to be a PoFV/PoDD game. I didn't like TH14 that much - but I'm not so good at these games, so maybe the experienced players found it fun?
And yes, really like to see original art of more characters ^^
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kingault on October 25, 2013, 04:07:04 AM
Can't believe I didn't post this earlier.
Phantasmorgia.
3 + 6 = 9
9 + 6 = 15
9 reintroduced a PC98.
Why not 15 do the same to another green haired PC98?
Flawless logic yes.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Mr Jovial on October 25, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
I would love to see Ruukoto return too :derp:
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: K+ ~ Bake-Danuki on October 27, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
Can't believe I didn't post this earlier.
Phantasmorgia.
3 + 6 = 9
9 + 6 = 15
9 reintroduced a PC98.
Why not 15 do the same to another green haired PC98?
Flawless logic yes.


By this logic, 15.5 should be a photo game.
And why no mima I'd like to see Shinki back for a game instead of a green haired robot-maid to be honest
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Monkeypro257 on October 27, 2013, 05:54:39 AM
It might as well be someone from Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream.  Yes, we need our little Marisa, Ellen, back! (and Socrates!)
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Mr Jovial on October 27, 2013, 08:13:17 AM
I'd like to see Shinki back for a game instead of a green haired robot-maid to be honest
I meant it as a joke since Kingault wanted a green haired pc-98 to return. Noone ever understands me  :fail:
It might as well be someone from Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream.  Yes, we need our little Marisa, Ellen, back! (and Socrates!)
Inb4 playable Socrates  :toot:
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on October 27, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
Playable Five Magic Stones.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kimmachinima on November 08, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Inori Aizawa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o) in Phantasm.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: K+ ~ Bake-Danuki on November 14, 2013, 03:52:13 AM
Inori Aizawa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o) in Phantasm.

Even though I hate IE still, I love this character.  Inori for Phantasm!
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on November 16, 2013, 07:09:01 AM
Touhou 15: Test of Time

Yukari is the main antagonist.

7 stages, not 6... ON THE SURFACE.

Stage 1: Remilia
Stage 2: Yuyuko
Stage 3: Kaguya
Stage 4: Kanako
Stage 5: Utsuho
Stage 6: Byakuren, AND you'll need full power at the end or Yukari will send you back to Stage 5.
Stage 7: Yukari... Then she vanishes, revealing it was an illusion and you'll have to fight your way through another 6 stages.

EStage 1: Flandre
EStage 2: Ran
EStage 3: Mokou
EStage 4: Suwako
EStage 5: Koishi
EStage 6: Nue, see Byakuren caveat
EStage 7: Yukari, for real this time.

Now who knows what old game I just sorta ripped off?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TheTeff007 on November 16, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
A wild guess, but maybe from Super Ghost n'Goblins?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on November 17, 2013, 12:57:41 AM
Close enough.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kurosun on December 05, 2013, 12:15:04 AM
TH15 is about Youkai musician wars.
To be honest I saw this more to be a 14.x game... We could see the Prismriver Sisters fighting the new musical tsukumogamis from DDC in a spin-off just like GFW.

Phantasmagoria with everybody as playable character. Even Rinnosuke. Especially Rinnosuke. Oh, but Miko is even more important.
I second that! Just, Kasen as well, especially if she truly had to be an EX boss.

Now, thinking about what TH15 might be about (or more likely, what I'd like it to be about), I don't think it would be about tsukumogamis, but maybe about all Youkais, as something is happening (for reasons we still don't know) and is driving the Youkais to rebel and attack the humans much more than the usual, as if they wanted to destroy the natural order of Gensokyo. With this said, Reimu and co. (Marisa, Sanae, Sakuya and Youmo (after all it has already happened that ZUN has been giving us more than just 2/3 playable characters)) must make their way through the Youkai army, fighting old and new "enemies" (and considering the fact that each stage has a mid-boss and a final boss, the cameos might be many, featuring many of the famous Youkais we've already defeated) to find out what is truly happening.
Wether the reason is found out at the end of TH15 or not is irrelevant, as this could create a "Youkai war" arc of some sort, which wouldn't be bad. I mean, after all Youkais are meant to make big fusses all the time, but up to now just very few of them have truly had bad intentions or created real incidents (probably the worst one was the red mist that Remilia created), so we need to see them truly being an issue. Also, a Youkai's war could bring to a Miko's come-back to help the heroines in their duty of protecting Gensokyo.
Even if I myself know it's very unlikely to see Miko return. I honestly think that if Miko would ever return, the game would undergo a very deep plot, because I'm sure that Miko has disappeared to resolve a very big incident, unless ZUN is planning to hurt Reimu and make her find out Miko has died (and at that point I'd help Reimu getting revenge over ZUN... lol).
Actually I'd also love a chapter that introduces a character that knows a lot (if not everything) about Gensokyo's history (or a chapter that forces Yukari to actually say everything, or just one of the other elder Youkais) and then have some other chapters (maybe spin-offs if not a side-series) where we can play in the past Gensokyo, finally taking part to those great events we've only read about (just two examples: Yuyuko's suicide to help Yukari to seal the Saigyou Ayakashi; The lunar war).
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Raekuul on December 05, 2013, 03:15:36 AM
How about a Touhou game where you can mix and match partners? Think Imperishable Night but with more combinations. For example
Code: [Select]
Reimu Hakurei
Shrine Maiden of Red-White
As Primary:
Regular Shot is Sealing Amulets
Options shoot Sealing Needles
As Secondary
Options behave as ReimuA from Subterranean Animism
Bomb is Fantasy Seal - Concentrate

Marisa Kirisame
Magician Girl of Makai
As Primary:
Regular Shot is Wind Missiles
Options shoot Frostthrowers
As Secondary:
Options behave as MarisaC from Mountain of Faith
Bomb is Master Spark

Sakuya Izayoi
Timeless Scarlet Maid
As Primary:
Regular Shot is Straight Knives
Options shoot Aimed Knives
As Secondary:
Options behave as SakuyaB from Perfect Cherry Blossom
Bomb is Private Square

(I've been sitting on these for a month now, looking for a chance to post them)
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Damien on December 09, 2013, 04:20:25 PM
Touhou 15 will mostly introduce new characters duh (albeit with a little cameo characters from previous series)

There's still a lot of Japanase-Chinese myth characters that haven't yet been explored.

For the future, I want to to see :

- Oshichi, the youkai arsonist.

- Makura-gaeshi, this little prankster youkai move pillow from under your head to your feet

- Kamaitachi, a kunoichi weasel duh :3

- Kodama, a tree spirit

- Fugurama, a delivery cart youkai.

- Gashadokuro, a giant skeleton and scary as Marisa said

- Himiko, Shaman Queen of Yamatotaiku

- Kinmamon, a mysterious deity.

- Genderbend of :
> Taira no Masakado, deified human and war-monger, imagine she wreak havoc in Gensokyo
> Sugawara no Michizane, also deified as Kami of Knowledge and have a bitter history with Fujiwara clan, better watch your ass Mokou :3
> Abe no Seimei, an Omnyouji; come to think of it, we haven't seen any single Omnyouji in Gensokyo except for Ran, who'd actually used some Omnyoudo skill
> Abihiko and Nagasunehiko, chieftains of ancient Yamato and they will be perfect as twin siblings.
>Yamato Takeru, another Prince from Osu.
They've already done it with Miko (based on Prince Shotoku), so why not them too :3

-Arabahaki, an ancient aboriginal God of Japan since Kohun period (Could be a rival or nemesis to Suwako)

- Xi Wangmu or Seioubo, she is an ancient Chinese goddess and central figure in Taoism. Would love to see her interaction with Miko and her group.

- Guanyin or Kanzeon, a patronized boddhi of Compassion in Buddhism (and more saintly figure than Byakuren). Like Xi Wangmu, her interaction with Byakuren and her group is that I would like to see.

Also add the hilarious twist that Xi Wangmu and Guanyin is actually best friends, which shock both of the groups.

- Matsuo-sama, SHE IS THE FRICKIN' KAMI OF FRICKIN' SAKE, WINE, OR ANYTHING THAT MADE YOU DRUNK.
SO WHY THE HELL ZUN IS NOT ADDING THIS ONE TO THE TOUHOU ROSTER YET!?  SHE'LL BE THE MOST FAMOUS CELEBRITY IN GENSOKYO AND GIRLS WILL CRAWL TO HER FEET, BEGGING FOR MORE SAKE (especially the Onis).

as for the big/top player in Gensokyo :

- Huang Long or Ouryou, the Yellow Great Dragon. I suspect this is the True Ruler of Gensokyo itself and definitely above Yukari.

- Gozu-Tennoh, the amalgam of disease God in Shinto, Buddhism, Taoism, and Hinduism later turned into God of Righteousness.

- Dairoku Tenmao, demon king who tempted Buddhists from practicing the teachings of Buddha.

- Mara, same as above but she's seen as the Devil of Buddhism itself.
 
- Oumagatsu, the God of Impurity.

There's a lot of them that I haven't mentioned yet, so you all might pour your ideas for the next game, as I already done it.

Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: SIRookie on December 09, 2013, 05:02:47 PM
Not so much of a prediction as a story:
The other day I was with a group of friends, and we were having two separate conversations. I was talking with 1&2 about something (Pok?mon, I think? I can't remember exactly) and 3,4,&5 were talking about anime when I went to the other two, and at some point had switched to the Marvel universe, Thor, and from there general Norse mythology.

Suddenly, 3 turns to me and says "You know who should be in a Touhou game". Not a question, a statement.
Okay, here we go again "Who?"
"Tyr"
"Who?"
"Norse god who got his hand bitten off by a wolf and goes around beating people up with his other hand and a club that replaced his lost hand. He's kind of a badass."
Now at this point I'm thinking two things first is How did we get onto this topic? and second Let's just entertain him for a bit.
I don't know much anything about Norse mythology, so I ask:
"Okay, well, what are his powers?", thinking I'll get some response like "Controls [natural event]" or "Can freely travel between [supernatural location]" or something.
"None."
"What?"
"He doesn't have any. That's why he's so badass. Plus didn't you say they were going to put another male character in?"
I did? When? "Well, he has to have SOME sort of power..."
"Yeah but he doesn't. You should make a post on your forum about this, see what they think", then goes back to talking with 4&5 about anime again

So there you have it. Apparently Norse gods confirmed for Touhou 15.
Apparently the only requirement is "Be a badass".
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on December 09, 2013, 07:09:02 PM
Code: [Select]
Reimu Hakurei
Shrine Maiden of Red-White

You meant Shrine Maiden of Paradise, right?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Dumanios on December 09, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
Playable Seija. Stage 5 bosses tend to become playable, after all.

Perhaps something based off of Yamata no Orochi. Or possibly something based off of Hindu mythology, that'd be nice to see.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on December 12, 2013, 06:25:04 AM
Shirime (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirime") as Extra Boss gogogo
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Raekuul on December 12, 2013, 11:35:22 AM
You meant Shrine Maiden of Paradise, right?
We see Gensokyo as a paradise, but do the people (particularly humans) living within?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on December 12, 2013, 03:32:16 PM
We see Gensokyo as a paradise, but do the people (particularly humans) living within?

That's her official title...
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Failure McFailFace on January 12, 2014, 07:29:27 PM
Sorry for bump. But it's a strange idea.

The player character "forgot" to bring their shots with them, so they had to use their boss cards.

You select a character, and a kind of spell card set, similar to SWR and Hisotensoku.

Code: [Select]
Reimu:
Balanced Type: Spread non-spells, Homing Spellcards
Homing Type: Streaming Non-spells, Homing Spellcards

Marisa:
Focused Type: Non-spells shot at enemy in a focused manner, Streaming+Scatter Spellcards
Scatter Type: Dense, scattered non-spell, Fast and Dense Scatter Spellcards

Sakuya:
Time-Stopping Type: Nonspells and Spellcards have Time Stopping, with Sakuya moving din the meanwhile.
Bullet Change Type: Nonspells change directions and speeds randomly, Spellcards have changing bullets when it hits all sides of the screen.

All of this, with the PoFV AI. Easy is super-easy AI, Normal is Easy AI, Hard is Normal AI, etc., until EXTRA has Lunatic AI.


Just a thought.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: EndlessBlue on January 25, 2014, 09:33:35 PM
I think out of nowhere... new religion! Maybe the Hakurei shrine goddess.  I would like to also see the IN-style trams return.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Kwak on January 30, 2014, 01:23:42 AM
My guess is that whatever happens will be a direct result of DDC's story, since that seems to be the common thread.
MoF causes Kanako to make Utsuho start SA, which frees the ship for UFO then Byakuren builds the temple and resurrects the Taoists for TD, which provokes the youkai who rise up in DDC.

So it seems like 15's incident will be a result of the mallet's power....Could it be fairy related?
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on January 30, 2014, 02:10:21 AM
My guess is that whatever happens will be a direct result of DDC's story, since that seems to be the common thread.
MoF causes Kanako to make Utsuho start SA, which frees the ship for UFO then Byakuren builds the temple and resurrects the Taoists for TD, which provokes the youkai who rise up in DDC.

So it seems like 15's incident will be a result of the mallet's power....Could it be fairy related?

On an unrelated note, IF MIMA IS IN THE NEXT GAME, I WANT YOUR REACTION RECORDED. I want to see if we can outdo the Capcom fanbase on Smash 4.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Phantasm on January 30, 2014, 02:49:50 AM
So it seems like 15's incident will be a result of the mallet's power....Could it be fairy related?

I doubt the next game will have anything to do with the mallet, but if it does, I'm betting on more tsukumogami.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TrueShadow on January 30, 2014, 12:52:32 PM
My guess is that whatever happens will be a direct result of DDC's story, since that seems to be the common thread.
MoF causes Kanako to make Utsuho start SA, which frees the ship for UFO then Byakuren builds the temple and resurrects the Taoists for TD, which provokes the youkai who rise up in DDC.

So it seems like 15's incident will be a result of the mallet's power....Could it be fairy related?
I don't think the Taoists have anything to do with DDC. DDC's plot was initiated entirely by Seija and Shinmyoumaru.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Cybeast710 on January 30, 2014, 01:10:05 PM
I don't think the Taoists have anything to do with DDC. DDC's plot was initiated entirely by Seija and Shinmyoumaru.

Try just Seija. From what I got, poor Shinmyoumaru was used.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Tengukami on January 30, 2014, 04:13:43 PM
Yeah, the arc started by MoF ended with HM. DDC is a separate story.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on January 31, 2014, 10:49:34 PM
I'm glad we're on a new arc now. Was gettin' kinda tired of religion.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: TresserT on February 01, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
I kind of hope DDC is like EoSD in terms of future games. The first three games were somewhat connected, but they worked better as individual stories than an arc. I like that better than the multi-game storyline of MoF-HM.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Colticide on February 06, 2014, 02:12:38 AM
It would be nice to see a update on a few already existing characters and get some new info on them if possible, but that might just be left for the written part or side game (IaMP, SWR, HM) side of Touhou. I'm not sure if I want to see old characters back (but not TD's way for stage 1....) or if I'd just prefer new ones all the time. DDC would have had to have done something, if all weaker youkai were made stronger by the mallet then I doubt Shinmyoumaru was alone just affected by the side effect. But I have yet to fully play DDC beside from the demo so all my info is based on what I've read.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: flandre scarlet on February 18, 2014, 07:57:12 AM
I have the feeling the original poster is on to something.  I find the concept of a more in depth development of the weapons or as it was all referred to in DDC as "Tools" coming in to play.  I'm also intrigued by the thought of what if the corruption level of said "Tools" comes so great they must find a new way to draw power from their weapons.

but a title for it is still tricky as I can't think of a title for it but Zun is always clever and full of surprises.
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Jirachi on February 26, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
A Phantasmagoria with playable Kagerou and Kasen. :3
Title: Re: Touhou 15 Predictions
Post by: Power on March 04, 2014, 03:29:55 PM
The next touhou involves stars or a space theme.  Touhou characters in space or something.