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Title: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 21, 2009, 05:51:26 AM
Guess I'll be the one to get the ball rolling. And just for the hell of it, I took "Thread" out of the title because it's redundant to me and I'm like that  ::)

No accomplishments from me lately, let alone any real Touhou playtime. The massive pileup of homework and studying on me seems to be near infinite at this point in time. Not to mention, I have 4 midterms this week, so woooooo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 21, 2009, 05:53:56 AM
What happened to the destroyer? D: D: D:

And lol, I'm just posting here for posterity. I guess I can say I may have possibily figured out that damned midboss fairy's first attack in LLS stage 4, but I haven't played again to test it out.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Pako on April 21, 2009, 05:54:10 AM
I 1CC'd MOF normal with all characters in a row whithout starting over once!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 21, 2009, 05:57:08 AM
What happened to the destroyer? D: D: D:

"bjwdestroyer" is actually a name I've had since the 5th grade, and starting about a year or two ago, I've tried beginning to transition into "bjw" since the former is way too long. Of course, this is extremely difficult due to being unable to change your name in practically every community/forum, etc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 21, 2009, 06:04:38 AM
Huh. Well, as you can see, some of us never let go to our silly names of old. ^_^
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 21, 2009, 06:08:28 AM
I don't have the safespot as down as I thought I did. I think I can get it about 50% of the time. That's still better than the alternative, though.

I'm considering using some sort of physical marking to indicate where it is, or perhaps a software solution exists...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 21, 2009, 06:24:08 AM
What safespot?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Cirno on April 21, 2009, 06:48:02 AM
I'm the strongest.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gengetu Rape Time on April 21, 2009, 06:50:28 AM
Oh yeah? Well eye'm the rapist!

!

*shoots Cirno*

YOU FORGOT THE "EYE"

More on topic, do you think anyone will ever be able to defeat me? Really Drake, if you're up for it, I would love to see you use slowdown and record yourself surviving this attack.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 21, 2009, 07:04:23 AM
Gimme a way to play against the attack without having to play through the entirety of LLS Extra and I will see what I can do.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on April 21, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
In honor of a new board, have a pacifist Flandre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifs4t9dXPSI&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifs4t9dXPSI)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 21, 2009, 07:54:16 AM
Wut.

That's awesome.

Reminds me that I still need to no-death clear IN extra. V_V

I think Flandre and Remilia should explode twice anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Herasy on April 21, 2009, 08:00:04 AM
Hello new boards!

I have been lacking any sort of achievements lately, but recently I decided to complete PCB Sakuya Easy and managed to do it with Max lives at the end. Yay.

Also, does anyone think the font is just a bit small?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 21, 2009, 08:07:53 AM
In honor of a new board, have a pacifist Flandre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifs4t9dXPSI&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifs4t9dXPSI)

That's some incredible patience you have there. I have no idea how you manage to do these pacifist Extra runs when they often entail so much boredom while waiting for the timer to count down on trivial stuff.

Also, what in the world is up with your version of EoSD? I know someone was working on a sprite hack, but this seems to have changed more than just that. Did it replace the knives with a graphic that is slightly more representative of the actual hitbox?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on April 21, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
That's some incredible patience you have there. I have no idea how you manage to do these pacifist Extra runs when they often entail so much boredom while waiting for the timer to count down on trivial stuff.
This. Also, nice job at timing out Kagome-Kagome and Four of a Kind without dying.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LiteYear on April 21, 2009, 08:16:55 AM
Also, what in the world is up with your version of EoSD? I know someone was working on a sprite hack, but this seems to have changed more than just that. Did it replace the knives with a graphic that is slightly more representative of the actual hitbox?

It's the EoSD retexture pack.  There's a link to it on the wiki.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on April 21, 2009, 08:29:17 AM
That's some incredible patience you have there. I have no idea how you manage to do these pacifist Extra runs when they often entail so much boredom while waiting for the timer to count down on trivial stuff.

This is only really bad in Phantasm.  So many streaming attacks...  The non-spellcard timers are actually fairly low in EoSD, and with many of the more boring attacks I'm glad to have a chance to catch my breath and blink, given that the average run is >20 minutes of straight play.  Except for Mokou they didn't take me many tries either, so I didn't have time to get frustrated playing the same attacks over and over. (I never want to see Xu Fu again.)  I guess in the end if you don't enjoy it, don't do it  :)

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 21, 2009, 08:48:46 AM
The guy who made this retexture hack was being awfully considerate - he marked the safe spot for me!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 21, 2009, 09:06:13 AM
No accomplishments from me lately, let alone any real Touhou playtime. The massive pileup of homework and studying on me seems to be near infinite at this point in time. Not to mention, I have 4 midterms this week, so woooooo.

But does Σ homeworkn converge to a finite value?

*has been working on calculus homework for the last 6 hours and is going insane because of it.

*has also shortened his username due to the original one being too long.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on April 21, 2009, 09:12:17 AM
But does Σ homeworkn converge to a finite value?
Good question, is {homeworkn} a Cauchy sequence? :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 21, 2009, 09:44:24 AM
Got my first 1cc of MoF Normal in with ReimuA. All the time spent in IN was boring me.
This means I've unlocked Extra in every game, and it's time do beat them. Celebratation. \o/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 21, 2009, 10:10:54 AM
Stage 6 EoSD Hard Mode.

Midboss? Joke. Capture.

Capture... capture... capture...
Scarlet Meister time... ... ... Timeout!?
Then failed to capture Scarlet Gensokyo. Overconfidence from timing out Scarlet Meister (not to mention max rank... oh boy >_>).

Now I just need some good desktop recording software so I can share my moments when doing Practice Runs in EoSD.

I think... there might be a trick to Scarlet Meister. Even if it can generate walls. I'll study this one overnight.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ghost333 on April 21, 2009, 01:13:02 PM
i did an amazing 4a on a lunatic run today. but unfartuntly i still got onwned at kaguya :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 21, 2009, 02:11:30 PM
I will continue to hold on to the original graphics kthx. I still think the retexture pack makes all the graphics look out of place.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 21, 2009, 04:18:30 PM
Captured VoWG (Hard) yesterday.  Promptly forgot to save the replay, but I finally got it.  What's really bugging me is that not only can I not get it again, but I can't get freakin' Heaven's Dragon either; I keep running into bullets when moving back across for no good reason.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 21, 2009, 06:40:24 PM
2 death practice run of EoSD Stage 6 Lunatic. Hurrah.
I feel a 1cc coming soon... ... ...maybe.

It's odd, because I still can't handle hard mode on SA or MoF. Haven't even tried IN.
Is EoSD Lunatic one of the easiest?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on April 21, 2009, 06:49:52 PM
I think it's just depends on person, and what you practice more.

I'm kinda in the same boat. I do okay in EoSD, but other touhous own me.

I guess different people just have different thing that own them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 21, 2009, 06:55:23 PM
Ah yeah, you're probably right.
SA's stage 1 is very discouraging...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 21, 2009, 07:27:17 PM
Almost did a full 1cc of EoSD Hard when Remilia pwned me in the face with Scarlet Meister.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DuffMcWhalen on April 21, 2009, 11:34:57 PM
The most I have ever accomplished was 1ccing IN on normal :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: andrewshen123 on April 21, 2009, 11:39:16 PM
Completed my last scene in StB today. It was a nice diversion from trying to 1cc a Lunatic, but now I guess I'll have to go back to that. =\
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 22, 2009, 04:30:04 AM
I haven't captured Scarlet Gensokyo in a while...it was nice. :)

NOW IF I COULD JUST CAPTURE VoWG AGAIN BEFORE I DIE I'D BE SET!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 22, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
...I was going about it all wrong. Haha, I can't believe it took me this long to figure this out. Seriously, I've been playing these games for what, three years now? I should have realized this ages ago.

Also, it turns out that the re-texture pack is too distracting. I think I'll stick with the original.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 22, 2009, 08:56:53 AM
We can all only wonder what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Tsalop on April 22, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
Latest achievement was to play Lotus land story and Mystic square through using normal...
Heh, I felt myself quite stupid when I later noticed that there is focus available in
both of the games...

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 22, 2009, 12:23:44 PM
I found a method through Scarlet Meister. However, the dodging required needs to be close to perfect (as always...)

I managed to almost time it out. On Hard Mode though. Now if I can just consistently dodge through it...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 22, 2009, 02:14:22 PM
Does it by any chance involve getting up to Remilia's right side before she fires the first wave, misdirecting the attack and making it so you only have to dodge one easily dodgeable burst instead of two for the first wave? Because if so, way ahead of you.

If not, do tell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Patoyo on April 22, 2009, 08:41:52 PM
Does anyone here knows how to dodge Scarlet Shoot? (no bombing).
this the only reason why I don't have accomplishments in EoSD
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on April 22, 2009, 08:47:30 PM
Does anyone here knows how to dodge Scarlet Shoot? (no bombing).
this the only reason why I don't have accomplishments in EoSD
The pattern is [Aimed Shot w/four others around you]X2-->[Aimed 3 shots]-->[Aimed Shot w/Four others around you]X2. Repeat. Yeah. I don't have a particular strategy for this because while I was playing EoSD normal, I just bombed it. It's quite easy(understatement) compared to Scarlet Meister.

I'm not sure if this counts, but I didn't spend 30 minutes+ in the MS Music room when I went in.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on April 22, 2009, 08:57:28 PM
This might be a bit hard to understand, but after the two aimed shots are fired, you can actually slip between the lingering traces to avoid the 3 aimed bullets.

Does anyone have a replay of it?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 22, 2009, 09:07:09 PM
Does it by any chance involve getting up to Remilia's right side before she fires the first wave, misdirecting the attack and making it so you only have to dodge one easily dodgeable burst instead of two for the first wave? Because if so, way ahead of you.

Eh? This doesn't seem right to me. I always start by going to the left of Remi. Unless, of course, you mean Remilia's right, which would be Reimu's (and the player's) left.

I just tried going up to the right side of Remi (Remi's left) at the start, and it doesn't seem to work nearly as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Patoyo on April 22, 2009, 09:14:52 PM
This might be a bit hard to understand, but after the two aimed shots are fired, you can actually slip between the lingering traces to avoid the 3 aimed bullets.

I always failed in that. Blame it on my not-so-fast reflexes.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 22, 2009, 09:16:23 PM
Does it by any chance involve getting up to Remilia's right side before she fires the first wave, misdirecting the attack and making it so you only have to dodge one easily dodgeable burst instead of two for the first wave? Because if so, way ahead of you.

If not, do tell.
This was the method I tried first. Unfortunately, I can never seem to time it right and get a face (full of? It's just 1 bullet.) ring bullet. That, or the 2nd wave starts while I'm still trying to weave through the pattern. I suck at high speed-high density dodging (i.e. unfocused).

Eh? This doesn't seem right to me. I always start by going to the left of Remi. Unless, of course, you mean Remilia's right, which would be Reimu's (and the player's) left.

I just tried going up to the right side of Remi (Remi's left) at the start, and it doesn't seem to work nearly as well.
This was the 2nd method... Wait they're basically the same. The only difference is the starting position.

I guess the best way is with a video. Now if I can just time it out without dying/bombing... (hopes audio doesn't desync; the raw video >_>)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 22, 2009, 09:45:08 PM
The methods are similar, but there are significant changes in the end result. Namely, starting on the right side of Remi gives you less time to dodge the first wave and brings the initial shotgun (which is almost always an impassable wall) closer to the center of the screen.

Although I just realized that you guys seem to be talking about the Hard version. I've been talking about the Lunatic version, which is a bit...dicier.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 22, 2009, 10:21:08 PM
The methods are similar, but there are significant changes in the end result. Namely, starting on the right side of Remi gives you less time to dodge the first wave and brings the initial shotgun (which is almost always an impassable wall) closer to the center of the screen.

Although I just realized that you guys seem to be talking about the Hard version. I've been talking about the Lunatic version, which is a bit...dicier.

True, but it really didn't differ that much (to me; end result = dying). I'm aiming for two things with the new method.

1. Surviving the card.
2. Taking the card out ASAP.

The third criteria would be (super)grazing, which really shouldn't apply here. So naturally, I would be simply altering the existing "methods" to suit this criteria (in terms of a good "balance" as it were).

Currently... Died once, 9 seconds on the timer. Timed it out after dying; trivial dodging (noting that I could have shotgunned to end the card extremely quickly). Clipped a bullet while moving unfocused due to a delayed reaction on my part. It would be awesome if I could go at it on max rank (even the smallest amount of bullets will make a large difference), but I keep getting BS walled or clipping other spell cards (subsequently dying).

I would try Lunatic after this, but... I haven't even made it that far. (I have up to stage 5 unlocked)

...now to study my only footage of the card, and figure out exactly (or close to it) how the card works. I'd prefer finding out the best method through my own 'replays' only.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 22, 2009, 10:36:42 PM
Scarlet Meister isn't affected by rank. Neither is Scarlet Gensokyo or Thousand Needle Mountain for that matter. In fact, I'm only certain that Remi's first card is affected by rank. Her third might be as well, but I'm not really sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 22, 2009, 10:37:12 PM
No, I discovered this during my nightmare grind of Scarlet Meister. Going up to the right (as in from your perspective) will misdirect the attack and cause her to fire one burst down instead of two. Whether this helps you or not is dependant on which way Remilia moves, but then again in my experience if she moves right you're screwed either way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on April 22, 2009, 10:39:13 PM
Eh, not really much of an accomplishment, but I found that if you set Meiling's damage handicap to 5, you can do over 10000 dmg (aka instant KO) with her double lv 2 youhou combo.
It's pretty cool to see Meiling bring her opponent from 0 to KO with one combo :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 01:35:39 AM
And in a completely random run after coming home from field work (at a pharmacy) and a vaccination. I manage to.. pull it off. Not just that, but one of my best runs of the stage as well.

Uploading... Yes, you'll see my proposed method of taking out Scarlet Meister, which I did quite on-the-fly and quickly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 01:42:21 AM
I just realized: I've never captured Scarlet Meister hard.

:V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 23, 2009, 02:39:41 AM
Neither have I. I once timed it out no vert though. Silly how these things work.

In other news, I increased the margin of error a bit today. I keep falling apart at the silliest place though =/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 02:42:51 AM
Neither have I. I once timed it out no vert though. Silly how these things work.

In other news, I increased the margin of error a bit today. I keep falling apart at the silliest place though =/

? What crazy shenanigans are you partaking in currently?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 03:07:24 AM
? What crazy shenanigans are you partaking in currently?
I would also like to know.

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uys9R0zN6AY

I spent 2 days worth of practice just to get a result like this  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on April 23, 2009, 03:12:32 AM
...does this count as an accomplishment? :V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrsTNxy-pI)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 06:27:22 AM
I captured Sakuya's lunatic second non-spell card at max rank. It was pretty cool.

Killing Doll didn't go so well though. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 23, 2009, 06:36:40 AM
? What crazy shenanigans are you partaking in currently?

Too much ambiguity. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 06:39:16 AM
Killing Doll didn't go so well though. >_>
Killing Doll is just knife spam. All you can do is read the redirected pattern.

Wonder how hard it is at Lunatic. Trying now. Video of me dying like crazy? Y/N
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 23, 2009, 06:42:27 AM
Killing Doll is just knife spam. All you can do is read the redirected pattern.

Wonder how hard it is at Lunatic. Trying now. Video of me dying like crazy? Y/N

Yes, because I had to bomb it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 06:43:02 AM
Killing Doll on max rank is one of the hardest spell cards in the series. Even if it doesn't look that bad on hard, it's a LOT denser on lunatic. Same with Scarlet Meister (if you try that method of yours on lunatic, you'll find...problems.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on April 23, 2009, 06:49:43 AM
Killing doll made up for Lude Bile and the world for the sakuya fight >.<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 23, 2009, 07:01:33 AM
Yeah, Killing Doll is nasty on Lunatic + Max Rank. Not only is it extremely dense and claustrophobic, but the knives are really fast. Oh, and then you also have the typical Killing Doll "knife that just passed by you is now coming back for you" shit. Delicious.

In other news, I increased the margin of error a bit today. I keep falling apart at the silliest place though =/
Bleh. Tell us already  ::)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 07:09:17 AM
Yeah, Killing Doll is nasty on Lunatic + Max Rank. Not only is it extremely dense and claustrophobic, but the knives are really fast. Oh, and then you also have the typical Killing Doll "knife that just passed by you is now coming back for you" shit. Delicious.
Adding, the knife hitbox?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 23, 2009, 07:33:09 AM
Bleh. Tell us already  ::)

Maybe he's just worried that I'm going to pull a Post-Momizi and steal his thunder with a successful run after he irons out the strategy.

Although that's nothing to worry about since I'm not playing Touhou right now, and besides that, Remi's probably my worst fight in the series.  (We -are- talking about Remi, right?)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 07:38:02 AM
I'm surprised you haven't beaten EoSD lunatic honestly. Considering your other impressive feats you've proven yourself more than capable of it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 23, 2009, 07:38:22 AM
Yeah, Killing Doll is nasty on Lunatic + Max Rank. Not only is it extremely dense and claustrophobic, but the knives are really fast. Oh, and then you also have the typical Killing Doll "knife that just passed by you is now coming back for you" shit. Delicious.
Heh.  I was doing Killing Doll on Hard, actually.  I graze a knife - it's directly to the right of my hitbox, going straight down - and Sakuya freezes time.  And turns the knife.  At a ninety degree angle.  And unfreezes time.

I was laughing too hard to get angry.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 08:00:14 AM
...due to an unexpected event that impacted my current physical state, I am unable to play at the level for a few hours. Maybe some medication will fix it.

My left arm hurts so much  ;_;
It's putting me off balance, so it feels like my mind is disoriented; hitbox calculations (both projectile and player) have gone "bleeeeeh", and bombing reflex just died. Even pre-bombing reflex is dead.

To tell you how bad the run was, I was on the third continue, and Scarlet Gensokyo. Died there, rather than bombing, because of my left arm.

On the good side, the strategy appears to work for Scarlet Meister at Lunatic. However, the gaps are very small. Emphasis on very. The gap are generally about one red-ball bullet wide, and half a sprite high. Considering the high speed of these bullets, there's a rather small margin of error. Made it past 2 sets of double-waves, before clipping.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 23, 2009, 08:18:17 AM
Maybe he's just worried that I'm going to pull a Post-Momizi and steal his thunder with a successful run after he irons out the strategy.

What? Who would be afraid of you?

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7559/1235620146342.jpg)

Adding, the knife hitbox?

Typically with Killing Doll, if I get hit, I get hit. So I guess I don't mind it too much :P

I was laughing too hard to get angry.

I only do that when I encounter new crazy looking patterns for the first time. Dying usually results in rage for me. Well, that or a quick snicker with me saying "wow, really? Really?"
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 23, 2009, 08:29:40 AM
GRRNNNFRGN!

One bullet less - one, damnit - and I would've captured Scarlet Meister!  Damnit!

Seriously.  I clipped the last bullet in the stream, when she had the merest fraction of her health bar left, twice.

I did get Scarlet Gensokyo a couple more times.  Including what is probably the longest run of that card, ever.  Remilia spent almost the entire time on the opposite end of the screen, and every time I moved over she'd move back and then wall me off again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
Killing Doll on max rank is one of the hardest spell cards in the series. Even if it doesn't look that bad on hard, it's a LOT denser on lunatic. Same with Scarlet Meister (if you try that method of yours on lunatic, you'll find...problems.)

Yes, because I had to bomb it.
Uploading. Man I suck at Lunatic so much. Maybe its because I'm not used to the density of the bullets. (yet...)

Killing Doll performed impossible walling on me. I wasn't even at max rank (I think?). Funnily enough, after that... it looked feasible... somewhat.

Will edit (and pray that I don't hit the quote button) this post with the link (once its finished processing)

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjWul6v9QLA

...did I do it right? Also, don't ask about the BS dodge during the first non-spell (not midboss). I have no idea how I did it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 23, 2009, 03:41:37 PM
Uploading. Man I suck at Lunatic so much. Maybe its because I'm not used to the density of the bullets. (yet...)

EoSD Lunatic is a huge step up from Hard, especially in the last three stages.  All of the hardest cards(Emerald Megalith, Killing Doll, Meister/Gensokyo, etc) have their difficulty raised significantly compared to the Hard versions.  For someone who's still new to Lunatic, you did quite well, good job. 

Though, I don't know if you're aware, but the first half of stage 5 can be skipped by going to the top of the screen and dodging the aimed blasts.  If you're going for a 1cc, it's really not worth risking staying at the bottom.

Also, nice character choice. ReimuB is awesome 8).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on April 23, 2009, 04:30:09 PM
Reimu B's Patchy fight on lunatic is one big pain in the ass though :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Flay_wind on April 23, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
160 spells captured in IN spell practice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 06:33:57 PM
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On the good side, the strategy appears to work for Scarlet Meister at Lunatic. However, the gaps are very small. Emphasis on very. The gap are generally about one red-ball bullet wide, and half a sprite high. Considering the high speed of these bullets, there's a rather small margin of error. Made it past 2 sets of double-waves, before clipping.

That's why it's considered to be the hardest spell card.

Since I'm at school, I can't see what's in those videos, but I'm definitely curious. If you want to take on lunatic, go for it! It's always nice to have a lunatic player.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 23, 2009, 07:41:30 PM
Well, that was an abomination.  Cleared EoSD Lunatic to unlock practice.  First continue lasted until just as Koakuma was about to show up.  Patchy ate me alive - no captures - and then Stage 5 decided that my bomb button was not allowed to work.  Second continue just before midboss Sakuya.  Who trounces me.  I did capture Jack the Ludo Bile and ZA WARUDO, at least, before Killing Doll pasted me across the floor.

Remilia's stage is still BS, by the way.  But I did capture Vampire Illusion, in some of my most ridiculous dodging ever, and I got Scarlet Gensokyo (which I captured on Hard a couple more times - the Hard version is practically peanuts compared to Lunatic) down to less than half health before dying.

Whatever.  I'm no Lunatic player.  But now I can practice Lunatic versions of the Scarlet Cards, to make the Hard versions doable!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 23, 2009, 07:54:51 PM
Scarlet Meister is pretty hard, but there is enough room for skilled play on it that I no longer consider it to be the hardest thing in the Windows series. Garbage like Emerald Megalith and Killing Doll at max rank are harder in terms of frequency of capture. They require less SKILL and more LUCK to capture than Scarlet Meister - a good player will capture Meister more often that the other two.

One interesting problem that all three cards share is that their difficulty is greatly affected by the way in which the boss moves during them. Damn EoSD and it's totally random boss movement ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 23, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
Though, I don't know if you're aware, but the first half of stage 5 can be skipped by going to the top of the screen and dodging the aimed blasts.  If you're going for a 1cc, it's really not worth risking staying at the bottom.

Also, nice character choice. ReimuB is awesome 8).
I'm aware of the... "abuse". But for scoring, I'd say its the best way through  =p

One interesting problem that all three cards share is that their difficulty is greatly affected by the way in which the boss moves during them. Damn EoSD and it's totally random boss movement ;_;
;_; We all know what it feels like.

Don't forget random fairy maid movement in stage 6. I've had to waste a bomb because the fairies move into me from the side (where they don't die in time) >_>
If you don't know what I'm talking about, I could easily make a video of it. Or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 23, 2009, 08:40:20 PM
I know what you are talking about, it's annoying as hell.

However it can be avoided nearly 100% of the time by streaming the fairy shots from the right or left edge of the screen rather than from the middle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 23, 2009, 11:24:42 PM
My capture rate of VoWG still says it's harder than Scarlet Meister. D:

BTW Kefit, is this thing you're vaguely alluding to a secret or something?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Edible on April 23, 2009, 11:28:05 PM
My capture rate of VoWG still says it's harder than Scarlet Meister. D:

BTW Kefit, is this thing you're vaguely alluding to a secret or something?

It's a secret to everyone.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 23, 2009, 11:30:24 PM
Captured every spell card in EoSD Lunatic Stage 1-3, but Patchy's being a bitch.

It's a secret to everyone.

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3240/itisamystery.gif)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 24, 2009, 02:18:46 AM
Captured every spell card in EoSD Lunatic Stage 1-3, but Patchy's being a bitch.

Heh, good luck. It isn't that bad, but it will take some perseverance due to her handful of bullshit cards, and then there's Emerald Megalith to top it off.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 24, 2009, 09:07:30 AM
Going back to my Stage 5 Lunatic video... ...

Err... it's better if I just showed you the screenshots of the raw data. Recorded at 25 FPS by the way... (I need video better EDITING software; Windows Movie Maker -> 25 FPS)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0110.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=74&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0210.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=75&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0310.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=76&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0410.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=77&u=12803292)

I do apologize for the horrible cutting. This makes me think 1.5 things:

1-1.5: Just how small are the rice bullets, and based on the size, what about Reimu's hitbox?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 24, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
Going back to my Stage 5 Lunatic video... ...

Err... it's better if I just showed you the screenshots of the raw data. Recorded at 25 FPS by the way... (I need video better EDITING software; Windows Movie Maker -> 25 FPS)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0110.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=74&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0210.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=75&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0310.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=76&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/0410.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=77&u=12803292)

I do apologize for the horrible cutting. This makes me think 1.5 things:

1-1.5: Just how small are the rice bullets, and based on the size, what about Reimu's hitbox?

LOL hilarious!
Nice!

Interesting though, I always thought the rice bullets matched their hitbox.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 24, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
Reimu's hitbox is about the size of Reimu's hitbox in MoF and SA. I'd suggest grabbing the hitbox patch if you want to get an accurate idea of its exact size.

Contrary to what I once believed, Marisa's hitbox is larger than Reimu's in EoSD. Furthermore, most bullet hitboxes are larger than in other games. However, these rice pellets are about the same size, which is to say that they are quite a bit smaller than their graphic. However, this "dodge" was still a very freak occurrence that you should never expect to happen again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 24, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
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Contrary to what I once believed, Marisa's hitbox is larger than Reimu's in EoSD

No wai. It's probably because I never use Reimu in EoSD and am unfamiliar with the hitbox position (I REFUSE to ever get the hitbox patch), but I get hit a lot easier with Reimu than Marisa. It can't be that much of a difference...

And I've made dodges like that several times in the past. It's definitely awesome, but never count on it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 24, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
Eh, I've never seen much of a problem with the hitbox patch, and this is coming from the guy who did ridiculous things in EoSD long before the hitbox patch came out. A visible hitbox makes little to no difference at the Lunatic level of play, at least with the faster, less dense danmaku that is the norm in EoSD.

Downloading and trying out the patch has confirmed this belief. I have learned a few interesting things from it as well. I would suggest trying it out just to see what you can learn and then getting rid of it if you want to.

On a curious note, this difference in hitbox size is directly related to one of my recent cryptic comments...but those will be on hold for a day or two. I've confirmed myself as soul crushed, and need a day or two to recover and hop back into the fray.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 24, 2009, 06:01:05 PM
Kefit's doing an EoSD lunatic no bombs clear.

OMG.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on April 24, 2009, 06:12:07 PM
No bomb clear :O???

MONSTER!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on April 24, 2009, 06:32:13 PM
Topic-related:
Finished SA on Normal with Reimu B, with three lives left. Every spell card from Stage 1 to 3 captured, first and third of Satoris, first and third of Orins, and first and final of Utusho?s spell cards. Making in total 2 + 4 + 4 + 2 + 2 + 2: 16 of 25 captured.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on April 24, 2009, 10:13:25 PM
PCB Extra Stage, got to "Kokkuri-san's Contract" (penultimate spellcard) with Reimu A.

The run itself is crap, but it's the first time I get past Princess Tenko (by capturing it! Yay!).
I have so much stupid deaths, I'll probably beat Ran easily when I seriously try to beat her (Hint: I have captured 30 spellcards).

List of stupid deaths :

- Died to Chen spinning around everywhere by running into the last bullet to dodge in a wave.
2 bombs in stock.
- Messed up the end of the stage and trapped myself.
1-2 bombs in stock
- Didn't move for like 5 seconds in a nonspell (either after Princess Tenko or the buddist spell).
1 bomb in stock
- Managed to get myself trapped in blue bullets at the beginning of Kokkuri-san's contract.
FOUR bombs in stock
- Mistimed one of the line of blue bullets later in the spell (and moved diagonnally. duh).
3 bombs in stock

So yeah I lost like a dozen bombs  ;D. I broke almost every single border too (on purpose).

Also, I didn't skip Ran's text to try to make it readable in the replay, but then noticed the replays speed up at that part, about 2x faster  >:(. My sisters (and Cassie too maybe) would have liked to read the story. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on April 24, 2009, 10:29:36 PM
SO FUCKING CLOSE

Made it to Kaguya's last spell on Hard mode with Reimu solo. Died with 40 sec left on the counter... If I had just TWENTY more power items I could have gotten an extra life and beat it... TWENTY...

Oh well at least it seems my dodging skill has magically gone up after a long break from playing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 24, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
That's so weird, isn't it? How a long break increases your skill rather than decrease it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on April 25, 2009, 01:10:48 AM
1cc SoEW normal. It was a lulzy 1cc but one nonetheless.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 25, 2009, 01:14:34 AM
2cc clear of EoSD Lunatic with 5 lives.

I'll try clearing it with default lives now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 25, 2009, 02:26:17 AM
1cc SoEW normal. It was a lulzy 1cc but one nonetheless.

=D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on April 25, 2009, 02:23:05 PM
Made it to Evil Eye Sigma via total luck and bomb spam.

What the fuck is this shit? This stage is like cheap as hell, although I do admit there are some fun parts in it. O_o The homing tile explosions and the 4 way tile bursts were actually sorta fun to dodge. The section with the random submarines annoys me, but there must be a safespot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 25, 2009, 05:10:56 PM
The trick to the submarines is to pick a side (doesn't matter which but I choose left) and stick to it. You only have to dodge one set of bullets this way and you get more point/power items to boot.

You know what's really annoying about SoEW? IN very rare occurences (as in like once every five or so playthroughs of the full game rare), and enemy will randomly drop a bomb or extend item. There's no way to predict this, and they never appear when you're in dire need of them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on April 25, 2009, 06:14:02 PM
You know what's really annoying about SoEW? IN very rare occurences (as in like once every five or so playthroughs of the full game rare), and enemy will randomly drop a bomb or extend item. There's no way to predict this, and they never appear when you're in dire need of them.
That's stupid. Does it ever happen in extra? (although one part in extra gives you like 5 lives)

Also: Is there a trick to the eyes near the beginning of the stage besides not sucking?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 25, 2009, 06:20:49 PM
Made it halfway through Vivit's final form this morning, despite wasting 2 bombs in the run.  This 1cc is just inches from my grasp, I can feel it...

Also, I did some runs of SA stage 1 (it'll probably be my next lunatic after SG), and I think I've found a way to trivialize Yamame's opener. Instead of streaming it at the bottom, if you go up and to the right a bit after she shoots out the blue waves, it will misdirect the red waves a la ZA WARUDO.  I only tried it like 3 times but it seemed to work.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 25, 2009, 06:42:37 PM
This should go under the embarrassing topic, but I feel it's more of an accomplishment. I beat Koishi just now despite dying twice on Sanae, another time on Danmaku Paranoia, another on PINGAS (when my death did enough to kill it too...), and one last time on Genetics of the Subconscious (I WILL capture this someday). Go me. >_>

That's stupid. Does it ever happen in extra? (although one part in extra gives you like 5 lives)

Also: Is there a trick to the eyes near the beginning of the stage besides not sucking?

During my 20~ day grind it happened about twice. Neither time was the clear.

I used to have trouble with the beginning, but as far as I can see it's streaming. It's a shame the video I studied no longer seems to be there or I could show you how to best do it (it took a long time to find it BTW).

Made it halfway through Vivit's final form this morning, despite wasting 2 bombs in the run.  This 1cc is just inches from my grasp, I can feel it...

Also, I did some runs of SA stage 1 (it'll probably be my next lunatic after SG), and I think I've found a way to trivialize Yamame's opener. Instead of streaming it at the bottom, if you go up and to the right a bit after she shoots out the blue waves, it will misdirect the red waves a la ZA WARUDO.  I only tried it like 3 times but it seemed to work.

Sounds interesting. I Touhou'd myself out for now, but this sounds like it's worth checking out.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 25, 2009, 06:53:35 PM
I JUST RECAPTURED VOWG LUNATIC.

OMG

That makes my history for it 2/123 >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 25, 2009, 08:50:47 PM
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Sounds interesting. I Touhou'd myself out for now, but this sounds like it's worth checking out.

Guh, actually, don't bother.  I tried it out some more, and it doesn't work.  Turns out I just got lucky that time; if she gets too low on the screen, you hardly get any room to move.  I guess this pattern will remain bullshit...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 25, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
I JUST RECAPTURED VOWG LUNATIC.

OMG

That makes my history for it 2/123 >_>

Have you actually been counting or is that a guess at the denominator?

Regardless, (b^_^)b
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 26, 2009, 12:03:02 AM
In game MoF only counts up spell card history to 99, but if you go to the records section the main menu it will continue to count up beyond that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 01:03:23 AM
That's what the history really is.

I figured out the trick: Don't go in with the intent of capturing VoWG. My first time it the run was actually to test a theory of mine (the theory was that if you bomb and go to the center of the screen during invincibility you can misdirect the waves and make it easier), and since it required bombing, I...never got around to testing it actually.

This time I specifically went in with the mindset of "Okay, here's VoWG failure reel number 122."

Pessimism rules.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 26, 2009, 01:51:01 AM
I figured out the trick: Don't go in with the intent of capturing _______.

Pessimism rules.

Isn't that what I told you about QED? :P

In game MoF only counts up spell card history to 99, but if you go to the records section the main menu it will continue to count up beyond that.

Oh.

*goes to check his real VoWG history.

16/168, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 01:56:03 AM
Isn't that what I told you about QED? :P

 :'( I've tried that. Q.E.D rejects every method.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gengetu Rape Time on April 26, 2009, 02:07:31 AM
Question for the pros at this sort of thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhhtzyUZtg&fmt=18

Real or fake? The concept itself is dizzying, but I can't see any blatant signs of cheating. Yet...something about it bugs me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 26, 2009, 02:21:12 AM
Scarlet Meister time-out isn't that big of a deal, the card has a very short timer. Scarlet Gensokyo time-out is pretty silly though.

But this guy is well-known bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWjhHITsHtc&feature=channel_page) He's gotten pretty good at hiding it, but some stuff like his performances on Eternal Meek and the second phase of Remi's final non-card always give him away.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 02:39:29 AM
Hmm, okay. What bugged me was actually the bullets; it's like they move slower than usual in that video, and Scarlet Meister didn't throw any particularly hard waves.

That reminds me: During my Scarlet Meister grind, I got really good at Scarlet Gensokyo and could capture it about one in twenty times (well, it's all relative), and I got this sick idea of timing it out without dying. I only tried it a few times, but I once got the counter down to 86 seconds.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on April 26, 2009, 03:22:28 AM
Scarlet Meister time-out isn't that big of a deal, the card has a very short timer. Scarlet Gensokyo time-out is pretty silly though.

But this guy is well-known bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWjhHITsHtc&feature=channel_page) He's gotten pretty good at hiding it, but some stuff like his performances on Eternal Meek and the second phase of Remi's final non-card always give him away.

Aww, I had hoped he was legit.  I've only seen a couple of his vids, but they were pretty crazy.  Too bad.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Jana on April 26, 2009, 03:42:22 AM
I guess this is sort of an accomplishment: I finally had a chance to get my mom to watch my playing. I showed her Stages 5 & 6 from my old Reimu/Suika SA Easy run, and then played the UFO demo Easy with MarisA. Playing UFO while explaining what each character's background is or what tactic I'm using to dodge was sort of difficult...

To keep this post from being too much of a derail, I managed a new high score (A mere 42M) with that MarisA UFO run, even with some dumb deaths in places because I was too distracted.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on April 26, 2009, 05:05:53 AM
Question for the pros at this sort of thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhhtzyUZtg&fmt=18

Real or fake? The concept itself is dizzying, but I can't see any blatant signs of cheating. Yet...something about it bugs me.
rofl. Phar pulled off more ridiculous bullshit, I see.

He also has no-bombs Lunatic 1cc's of both EoSD and SA. Both of these replays are very well hidden, but nevertheless still, bullshit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 05:24:44 AM
Time for legit stuff:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3085

IN lunatic stage 3 no deaths. This stage has always given me problems, but I finally learned First Pyramid and Legend of Gensokyo (though I still fail the latter in the replay D:) and won without dying.

I still don't know how to handle General Headquarters Crisis without moving off to the side like that though.

DOUBLE FEATURE

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3086

IN lunatic stage 4b no deaths~

I suck rather hard at the first half of Marisa as you can see by me failing everything except her opener and even then flailing around like a maniac, but I somehow (and I don't know what the hell happened), I perfected the latter stage portion and did well enough to beat the rest of Marisa only failing Double Spark.

I am like on a roll tonight, aren't I? :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 06:11:33 AM
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3315/qedmothaeffer.png)

OMG. THIS IS THE BEST TOUHOU DAY EVER. I WANT TO TRY PERFECTING PCB STAGE 5 BUT DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE MAGIC.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on April 26, 2009, 06:39:36 AM
I'm sure you -are- satisfied.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 26, 2009, 06:46:47 AM
Donut's having joygasms.

I dare you to try PCB Stage 5 anyway.  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 06:49:50 AM
I did. I failed~

But just so I can say I've done something for every game today, I went and perfected the second half of PCB stage 3. Never mind how I sucked it up the rest of the stage. :P

TILDE~~~~~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 26, 2009, 08:04:53 AM
One final achievement tonight (god I post a lot):

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3090

MoF lunatic 1cc. It doesn't suck like the last two. Other than that one ghastly death on Hina's midboss card and VoWG lunatic killing me as it was exploding (and I even had a bomb left >_<), this is much more acceptable in my eyes. Cleared with 4 lives.

AH HA HA HA HA! I feel on top of the world right now. Good night everybody.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 26, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
Aahah, that's awesome.

I'm going to leave a match on overnight and see if it's still running when I wake up.
Or possibly while I'm at work.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on April 26, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
But this guy is well-known bullshit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWjhHITsHtc&feature=channel_page) He's gotten pretty good at hiding it, but some stuff like his performances on Eternal Meek and the second phase of Remi's final non-card always give him away.

cool story bro
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Adun on April 26, 2009, 10:13:04 AM
cool story bro

Look who joined right as he was mentioned.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on April 26, 2009, 02:11:07 PM
Unrelated, but there should be more touhou speedruns. That's fun to watch.

As for an accomplishment, I perfected SA stage 6 Easy. Utsuho's second spell annoys the hell out of me. But for once, I didn't suck at dodging while alternating between focused/unfocused. Yay me.

Then I tried again and got hit by Utsuho's opener  :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 26, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3315/qedmothaeffer.png)

OMG. THIS IS THE BEST TOUHOU DAY EVER. I WANT TO TRY PERFECTING PCB STAGE 5 BUT DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE MAGIC.

Congratz :P
It was a spectacular capture!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 26, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
Subterranean Squares of Death because nobody actually watches my videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siat21wXPTw&fmt=22

I managed to beat Easy Utsuho, but I had to pretty much be extraordinarily lucky. 1 bomb left was all I had.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on April 26, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
My eyes  @.@

Makes me want to do some unfocus SA.

Also, congrats to donut for Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 27, 2009, 12:13:28 AM
Donut capturing QED gave me some motivation to finally capture it for myself.

Did it on my first try... reaching QED proved to be more stressful than the damn card itself  :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M7GzbMy0KM&fmt=22
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 12:22:08 AM
Reaching Q.E.D is infinitely more harrowing than the card. In all honesty I actually think Q.E.D is pretty fun, but the fact that I could never capture it was what made me hate it so much. From now on I can play EoSD extra without the underlying tension of "can I beat Q.E.D?"

Case in point: My history on Q.E.D is actually only 1/22. It was simply so frustrating each time I failed it felt like I failed twenty times each run.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on April 27, 2009, 12:26:10 AM
Reaching Q.E.D is infinitely more harrowing than the card.
Yeah, this is pretty much the only reason why I never wanted to capture it. Same goes for Mokou's rings of death, but hey, maybe I'll actually shoot for it sometime in the future >_>

And in terms of records, I'm 1/6 on QED.

Hilariously (or perhaps, disappointingly), I'm 0/10 on Secret Barrage "And Then Will There Be None?" Yeah, I have captured every card in EoSD except for that one, and I don't know why. Of course, I'm never touching EoSD's Extra Stage again, so I guess I'll just have to live with this fact :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 27, 2009, 01:44:24 AM
K uh guys

I just timed out Lunatic Scarlet Gensokyo with no bombs or deaths.

Obviously I cheated

But

I forgot you can't save replays during practice runs ;_;


OH GODDDDD ;_________;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 01:47:14 AM
Isn't it sad Drake? ;_;

Obviously, you need to do a full game slowdown run.

Of lunatic.

With tricks up the wazoo for every stage.

Good luck. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on April 27, 2009, 01:49:19 AM
From now on I can play EoSD extra without the underlying tension of "can I beat Q.E.D?"

This is the reason why I won't go for a perfect run of EoSD extra.  I've actually now had two near perfect runs where I only used one bomb before QED, but the attack tears me apart (and the pressure/adrenaline sure doesn't help.)  I don't know if I'm masochistic enough to practice it up though  :P

Also, a full TAS run of EoSD lunatic capturing everything except timing out Scarlet Gensokyo would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 27, 2009, 02:21:32 AM
All this talk of QED got me all hot and bothered to take a shot at it myself. I haven't played EoSD Extra since I perfected the stage about a year ago.

Unfortunately it seems I suck at this stage now. I'll have to practice up at some point though, since I fully intend to replicate my perfect Extra run now that I have EoSD replays saving again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 27, 2009, 03:31:39 AM
I did it, but with one death this time due to uncontrollable circumstances.
As in a wall.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3099

WOOHOO
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on April 27, 2009, 04:01:34 AM
cool, can't wait to see kefit rape that spell
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 27, 2009, 05:46:34 AM
I just uploaded it, so it'll need some time for processing, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgfZ8kJMxQ&fmt=18

Just read the description.

WHAT.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 27, 2009, 06:07:44 AM
lol border team?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 06:12:25 AM
That's nothing. I've dodged the lunatic version when I was caught in a completely vertical shaft of lasers and had Kaguya fire right down the middle. Border team is amazing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 27, 2009, 06:36:27 AM
It's not so much lol border team as it is lol star bullets. Those star bullets are TINY.

My current struggle has seen another paradigm shift. This one seems like it will be the one. Maybe. That's what I thought last time. Except it wasn't working because everything took too long because I didn't realize just how much I had relied on other sources of damage before.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 06:42:27 AM
EoSD lunatic no bombs run...if it isn't I will be severely disappointed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on April 27, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
Look who joined right as he was mentioned.

I lurk the thread sometimes. I only joined because my name was mentioned along with a rather far fetched claim to tarnish it.

I don't feel like wasting my energy to try and defend myself here; it would be much like going to church to try and defend atheism. I just wish people would trust their own judgment a bit more, rather than immediately taking some icon's clearly biased opinion for truth.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on April 27, 2009, 11:17:06 AM
1cc of IN Hard with Reimu Solo, unlocking Marisa's last word.
The Kaguya fight is just BS with Reimu Solo. wah wah wah I HAD TO TIME OUT HOURAI JEWEL wah wah.

Edit: Captured Blazing Star, 1/57.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on April 27, 2009, 01:57:22 PM
I captured all of Satori's Patchy spells on the normal difficulty. It was pretty easy to do aside from Philosophers Stone which was quite a pain. Then i used the mystical technique of taking a break and then i managed to get it on the first try. Its weird how it works but i sure like it.

I also timed out Cat's Walk. The spellcard is usually pretty easy, even though it does screw me over sometimes, but when you have to time it out you have to survive three waves in a row compared to just one. I would really love to see someone time the spellcard out on Lunatic. I, obviously, am not capable. Maybe Kefit could...

I lurk the thread sometimes. I only joined because my name was mentioned along with a rather far fetched claim to tarnish it.

I don't feel like wasting my energy to try and defend myself here; it would be much like going to church to try and defend atheism. I just wish people would trust their own judgment a bit more, rather than immediately taking some icon's clearly biased opinion for truth.

I suppose the reason why people believe in the Kefit is because of his, compared to most of us, superior playing skill and experience. Even though cheating is sometimes obvious it might sometimes take a lot of experience to see through it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 27, 2009, 02:56:53 PM
I did it, but with one death this time due to uncontrollable circumstances.
As in a wall.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3099

WOOHOO

Awesome :D
Keep doing these, I am an avid fan~!

Nice work 'capturing' the green books of stage 4 btw.

edit (to avoid double post): I just managed to capture all of Patchy's Lunatic attacks except for Mercury Poison (it was wtfhigh rank by then and I have no idea what bullet actually killed me). Yes, even Lava Cromlech at what must have been a high rank, if not the highest. I have no idea how long it takes to get to the highest rank.
I'll upload the replay once I've got destroyed by stage 5 (come on, there's no way I can do well after such a nerve-wrecking boss fight)


edit2: Awww. No fair. I did so well (I barely captured anything but that's not the point. The point is survival). I ended up getting to Scarlet Gensokyo with only 1 bomb left. Believe me, I had no illusions, I knew I wasn't going to make it by then... but DAMN. Why did this have to be a run with a bad start? :(
If only I had stuck to my original strategy and restarted until I had gotten a 1-death (the best I can reasonably hope for) stage 1-3...
Also I wish I didn't need to use 2 bombs on Killing Doll: I would've had 1 more life going into Remilia then...

Anyway I've rambled on for way too long, here's the replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3100).
Just watch stage 4, stages 1-3 are relaxed and not caring about dying, stages 5-6 are pure survival, with very few captured attacks.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 27, 2009, 04:56:38 PM
So I did a Lunatic PCB Stage 5 run, just to show why I don't play Lunatic.  I dodge the entire bulletspam at the beginning and get killed by the last bullet on screen.  Midboss Youmu trainwrecks me.  I do the rest of the stage, burst a border at the end, it's all good.

God's Flashing Slash is a piece of crap, but everyone knows that.  And I even failed to capture Eternal Truth, which is loleasy even on Lunatic.  But I captured Worldly Attachment.  On Lunatic.  I'd never even gotten the Hard version before.  Woohoo!

Oh, and Components of Konpaku smeared me, but it was partially lag (but the lag didn't start until then, so the cap was legitimate).

EDIT:  I also noticed something interesting.  You can't die as Hourai Jewel is clearing, like you can with most other final cards.  I hit at least one, possibly two or three bullets in the video I posted before as it clears without dying.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 27, 2009, 08:03:53 PM
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7649/ssgvictory.jpg)

Oh hey, look at this, it's a Shuusou Gyoku Lunatic 1cc.  That I just did.

...

...

That's pretty neat.

...

...

 :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 27, 2009, 08:05:47 PM
...

Awesome. It's a damn shame you can't give visual proof outside of that, but I totally believe you. Otherwise I'd have no reason to believe I have proof of my PC-98 lunatic 1ccs.

Really, great job. I wish I had the patience for SG normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on April 27, 2009, 08:10:48 PM
Wow. Great job beating that beast on the lunatic difficulty. I couldn't even clear it on Easy! I only tried once of course but i didn't like what i played so i stopped it.

Ummm... today i played a little more around with Subterranean Animism on the Hard difficulty and suddenly ended up having a perfect clear of Stage 2 and a 1-death, no bombs of Stage 3. I swear that final non-spell is sooooo retarded.

Oh yeah i also managed to time out Ghost Wheels if i could just hold out for 3 seconds more! I suppose that would have home in the RAGE Thread but i'll be posting it here since i consider it an accomplishment in itself to actually lasting so long at it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 27, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
...

Awesome. It's a damn shame you can't give visual proof outside of that, but I totally believe you. Otherwise I'd have no reason to believe I have proof of my PC-98 lunatic 1ccs.

Really, great job. I wish I had the patience for SG normal.

Maybe one day when my skills have improved and the trauma of the last few weeks have passed, I'll try to 1cc the game while recording it, just to show that it's perfectly possible.  Until then, though, this picture will just have to suffice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 28, 2009, 12:54:27 AM
Nifty. There are enough people in here talking about SSG Lunatic's feasibility that I have re-evaluated my position towards its possibility. It's been nearly two years since I last played the game after all.

But I thought that SSG had replay capabilities? I know I have a replay of the Extra stage lying around somewhere or another.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 28, 2009, 01:21:45 AM
It's basically the opposite of EoSD; you can save practice and Extra runs, but not full game runs.  Hence why I can only prove my 1cc with a screenshot. Not sure what they were thinking, you'd think being able to save a replay of a 1cc would be kinda important.  Maybe it was beyond the capabilities of whatever system they were working with at the time.

But yea, the game is definitely feasible.  You just have very little resources and no margin for error.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 01:26:50 AM
Quote
Not sure what they were thinking

Sums up Shuusou Gyoku pretty well. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 28, 2009, 01:35:30 AM
Sums up Shuusou Gyoku pretty well. :P

 ::) Except no.  Shuusou Gyoku is a good game.  It's rough around the edges, and a little hard to get used to, but if you spend some time with it, it has some truly inspired moments.  Well, except for the stages. The stages kinda suck.  But the bosses?  Good Stuff.  Not to mention that the Extra Stage is, like, the most glorious thing ever.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 02:01:59 AM
Not at all.

Sorry, but I just have a deep dislike of SG. The extra is no exception.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nothing21 on April 28, 2009, 02:04:26 AM
Not really much of an accomplishment to most people here, but I managed to clear LLS's Extra. ;D

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3434/52496238.png (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3434/52496238.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 28, 2009, 02:14:59 AM
800x600 resolutiooooooooooo~nn~nnn?

Nice job, all the same. I can't do it yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nothing21 on April 28, 2009, 02:16:19 AM
Yeah, my computer monitor's resolution is set at 800x600, and I get an "out of range" error if I try to change it...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 03:22:24 AM
I just went on a spell card capturing spree in EoSD, capturing Green Storm, Agni Shine High Level, and Agni Radiance. Now only one spell card remains to be captured in EoSD...

Bury in Lake

Derp.

Anyone else slightly unsettled by the name?

EDIT: That was very anticlimactic Bury in Lake.

ALL SPELL CARDS IN EoSD CAPTURED OMG! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 03:54:19 AM
So, err...

Anyone know how to handle Pseudo Stradivarius and Ghost Clifford? Since those are the only two spell cards in PCB I have left to capture, I thought it would be nice to know what I'm in for so as to minimize the amount of times I have to go through a four minute stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 03:56:31 AM
Donut, I'll be honest, I don't understand you sometimes.  I've gotten Ghost Clifford on Lunatic a couple times; I find it easier than Hino Phantasm (the Normal version).  I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 04:10:02 AM
What's to get? I never use Reimu. I never use Sakuya. You have to go out of your way to fight those spell cards with Marisa. Stage 4 is the longest stage in the series.

I've fought both of those cards less than five times. I don't even know what Ghost Clifford looks like.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on April 28, 2009, 04:15:42 AM
Ghost clifford and PS are both so easy that I've actually captured them. I forgot what I did on them though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 28, 2009, 04:18:44 AM
Stradivarius is... kinda a streaming attack.  Move across the screen, weave through the constricting bullets.  And watch out for bullets coming from the bottom of the screen, they tend to do that. 

Ghost clifford, it's a streaming attack too, but I don't really remember how it works.

Also, when you play as Reimu, let me know how Lunasa's second nonspell goes.  It's like the hardest attack in the entire stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on April 28, 2009, 04:33:33 AM
I dunno which is which, but here goes:

Lunasa's card is just slow streaming. You will have to change directions frequently by dashing to the side of the screen as per regular streaming practice. Nothing beyond that, really.

Merlin's card is ??. I've faced it once and capped it that one time, probably by pure luck. I think I remember from side to side on the screen, but I'm not really sure. It can't be all that difficult of an attack though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 07:50:35 AM
Captured Youmu's midboss opener and Components of Konpaku.  On the same run.  And got Ghost Clifford Lunatic, just for donut.

I wonder if I should give VoWG another shot?  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on April 28, 2009, 09:12:36 PM
Not really much of an accomplishment to most people here, but I managed to clear LLS's Extra. ;D

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8383/woot.png)

Its not too minor. I'm pretty sure theres quite a bunch of folks here who haven't beaten that stage especially as its one of the PC98 games. I actually managed to beat between 2/3 and 3/4 of it on my first try so maybe the battle isn't very hard but its just that fewer play it than later Touhou games... just theorizing here. I don't know if i feel like getting the battle won. Maybe one day when all Hard and Lunatic is over and done with.

Oh and out of casual playing i got a perfect Stage 4 as ReimuB. Then again, everything on Normal mode is pretty easy. Well, mostly. Too bad Hard mode kills my patience way too fast.

Finally i managed a near perfect Stage 4 as ReimuC. Its almost embarrasing really. I beat Tengu Macro Burst but i failed at the Whirlwind. Doh!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 28, 2009, 09:25:34 PM
FINALLY captured Heaven's Dragon!  YES!

Also first captured Yamato Torus on the same run.

...which I guess means I've got Heaven's Dragon on Lunatic, but not on Hard.  Funny li'l world.

I'm also down to two deaths and a bomb (or two?) on VoWG Lunatic.  It used to be six deaths.  Progress!  But mostly I'm happy because I FINALLY GOT HEAVEN'S DRAGON.  That card should not have taken this long.

Either way, I've gotten all of Kanako's cards and attacks except her BS opener, her third normal attack (crisscrossing red and blues) and VoWG (Lunatic).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 28, 2009, 10:44:45 PM
Psst...we call it Source of Rains, not Heaven's Dragon.

And Source of Rains is ugh, so I'm not surprised it took a while.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 29, 2009, 04:59:20 AM
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=231.msg5295#msg5295 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=231.msg5295#msg5295)

fuuuuun funfun fun

fuuuuun funfun fun fuuuuuuuunnnnn
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 29, 2009, 05:22:08 AM
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=231.msg5295#msg5295 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=231.msg5295#msg5295)

fuuuuun funfun fun

fuuuuun funfun fun fuuuuuuuunnnnn

 ;D Beautiful. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on April 29, 2009, 06:30:34 AM
So...I just tried Fantasy Heaven.

Two hundred and fifty times or so.

The card's just too damned fun.

I am annoyed that I can get it down to to 8 seconds on every try, 4 seconds around half of the time, and 2 seconds around 20%.  I've gotten it to one second a couple times, but the very end of the card is too freakin' chaotic for me to be able to react that fast!

Also cleared Kanako Lunatic with the base two lives, on a friend's computer.  We were stuck at her for a while - my friend was using ReimuA - and then I went through the game with ReimuB (captured Saruta Cross again - I like that card) and cleared her in a couple tries.  Also picked up her crisscrossing red-and-blue-lines attack(in addition to nabbing Yamato Torus again), so it's just her opener and VoWG left.

Oh, and I captured Fujiyama Volcano.  FINALLY.  And I can do it pretty consistently.  All Mokou's got left that gives me hell are Ikahasa's Moon Curse and Imperishable Shooting (loldyingonthefirstwave).

Also had fun with SA Lunatic and the Continues of Doom.  Couldn't beat Orin.  Period.  I hate Lunatic Catwalk.  On the plus side, I got to BoWaP 0/3, bombed all three times, which knocked her down to about half health, and then proceeded to completely ninja the rest of the card.  Pure luck, but so cool.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on April 29, 2009, 08:29:40 PM
SoEW Normal 1cc with Reimu B, default lives.

Lol Reimu B dodges so much better than Reimu A. And I died only once to Marisa!

The fight against Mima was just a lot of lol bomb spam (I can't dodge that star attack yet).

This is my second normal 1cc. Maybe I should actually try the other games instead of screwing around with EoSD all the time.

And I lost twice to Shikieiki in Extra FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: CP3 on April 29, 2009, 11:54:46 PM
1ccs:

EoSD: Normal
PCB: Normal, Extra
IN: Normal, Extra
MoF: Normal, Extra
SA: ...

Yeah, it isn't much. Yet.  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nothing21 on April 30, 2009, 01:24:38 AM
Mystic Square Extra clear hooray ~

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/851/alicef.png (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/851/alicef.png)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 30, 2009, 01:52:43 AM
I DID IT! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3127)
*grin*

EoSD Lunatic clear!


... wahahahahahaha

;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on April 30, 2009, 02:10:25 AM
I DID IT! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3127)
*grin*

EoSD Lunatic clear!


... wahahahahahaha

;D

Getting that first lunatic 1cc is quite an experience, huh?  Great Job :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 30, 2009, 02:39:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1mH0Vzelo&fmt=22

mmm scarlet gensokyo timeout
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on April 30, 2009, 03:09:21 AM
Getting that first lunatic 1cc is quite an experience, huh?  Great Job :)

Thanks :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on April 30, 2009, 04:38:24 AM
All the EoSD talk made me really want to play EoSD, so I fired up my ancient laptop which is the only thing I own that actually runs it and fired up stage 4.

Terrible run. Then I decide to try timing out Emerald Megalith.

I pull it off.

What the fuck.

I think this just gave me enough motivation to try hacking in saving of stage replays into EoSD.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on April 30, 2009, 06:07:16 AM
Now this is a hack I approve of.

Especially since I just realized that a no deaths EoSD stage 6 lunatic run is feasible. It was like any other random EoSD stage 6 run, except that I didn't die once until Scarlet Gensokyo. I used a bomb on the stage and of course one on Eternal Meek (it's been a long time since I've captured that card), but I perfected Remilia until Scarlet Meister. The difference is that I only had to use one bomb due to fortunate movements. Shame Scarlet Gensokyo was too much for me. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on April 30, 2009, 07:34:14 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3130

Komachi really comes through for me here.  Yay, I'm (almost) back to where I was before accidentally FUBARing my old save~

And I really suggest you watch the last fights with Shiki.  How I got from three extra to no extra is a bit humiliating.

EDIT: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3131

Shikieiki gets her revenge.  Hakurei almost kills me, but I survive and unlock all the characters in the process.

EDIT2: Holy shit Merupo's charge and field are awkward as hell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on April 30, 2009, 01:46:36 PM
YES I AM DOING THIS RIGHT AWAY
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on April 30, 2009, 03:34:48 PM
I captured Fantasy Heaven.

Twice.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3132

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on April 30, 2009, 06:20:06 PM
Currently I'm going for last word Time Outs...  I have only tried a little bit, but I've already got Remilia's, Eirin's and Mokou's (none of which are that hard.)  I've tried a few others, and some of those attacks really only get a chance to shine when you go for time (Ancient Duper, holy crap, it keeps getting faster, and faster, and faster.....)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on April 30, 2009, 08:22:29 PM
FINALLY captured Ancestors Standing Beside Your Bed
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 01, 2009, 12:23:20 AM
Oh hey, first MS Extra Clear. That last pattern is a nasty shock.

Didn't even get my 2nd "Extend!"

The stage itself was flawless, except for THAT part, which I seem to be close to doing. 1 more second and I would've passed it. Also, that midboss threw a BS wall at me too. Snowballs made for impossible movement.

...now to try and do 1cc Easy Mode of tHRtP.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 01, 2009, 06:18:39 AM
Captured Takeminakata Invocation on Lunatic today. (Stage 5 MoF spell card with the red and blue moderately sized bullets, second to last)

It felt great O___O.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 01, 2009, 06:19:26 AM
I finally perfected Tewi in stage 5! :)

If I didn't suck at Mind Blow, and if Telemesmerism wasn't freakishly difficult, I would have had a perfect run on my hands.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 01, 2009, 07:08:47 AM
Captured Takeminakata Invocation on Lunatic today. (Stage 5 MoF spell card with the red and blue moderately sized bullets, second to last)

It felt great O___O.
Hey, me too!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 01, 2009, 07:36:58 AM
Telemesmerism
3 notes about the card.

1. Shotgun Reisen. (Isn't it sad, Alice?  ;_; Sakuya also gets the short-end of the stick.)
2. Predict where the bullets will phase in.
3. When at the sides (1/3 from either left or right), during phase shifts, move such that your hitbox is to the left or right (respectively) of the "blunt" side of the bullet.

And in more detail...

Phase 1: nothing to worry about, move a small amount if necessary.
Phase 2: fast bullets will cross.
Phase 3: fast bullets will be evident on the sides, with 3-4 bullets still maybe in the center.
Phase 4: bullets will form walls, and fast bullets will appear again.

By the end (or start) of the 3rd or 4th phase (5th if Reisen moves a lot), the spell card should be over. Even with solo Reimu shotgun.

My History:

13/35 @ Lunatic. Solo Reimu
9/14 @ Lunatic. Solo Yukari

And with most users using Border Team, *and* focus, you can guess which history record of mine is relevant.

That counts as my accomplishment by the way. Also, I'm trying to time it out, any ideas?

EDIT: The card is more challenging with Sakuya. Focus movespeed is killer. And the shotgun is capped.

Yuyuko can shotgun the card with no cap.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on May 01, 2009, 06:54:37 PM
Finally, Beat Remi on lunatic practice mode for the first time after not being able to suddenly for a long time

Caught Thousand needle hell lunatic for the first time also.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 01, 2009, 07:01:55 PM
Holy crap. MoF stage 6, I managed to get VoWG down to like half an inch of healthbar before getting taken down.  For a split second there, I thought I had it...

Also, not but two tries after bitching about it in the rage thread, I captured Source of Rains for the first time ever.  Two times in a row.  Thrilling.  I still fucking hate that card though.

Edit:  I just captured Kanako's opener!  It's no Virtue of Wind God, but I'll take it. ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 01, 2009, 10:52:51 PM
Holy crap. MoF stage 6, I managed to get VoWG down to like half an inch of healthbar before getting taken down.  For a split second there, I thought I had it...

Also, not but two tries after bitching about it in the rage thread, I captured Source of Rains for the first time ever.  Two times in a row.  Thrilling.  I still fucking hate that card though.

Edit:  I just captured Kanako's opener!  It's no Virtue of Wind God, but I'll take it. ;D
Don't you hate when you instinctively look at the health bar and die from inattention?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 02, 2009, 04:11:31 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3148

Being able to clear Extra on the second try after not touching it for months feels good, even if I didn't manage to cap Keine's cards or Phoenix Tail.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 02, 2009, 07:27:33 AM
I just learned what is possibly the way to handle the first half of MoF stage 5. My secret shame is that the stage gives me some trouble. But I learned the first half, and I also nearly perfected Sanae. Takeminakata Invocation is a rather nasty spell card if I do say so myself. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 02, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
Oh yeah, right. Captured Wriggles last word and 1cc'd IN Hard yesterday.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 02, 2009, 05:21:44 PM
1cc LLS hard with Reimu A.


Easy easy, but Stage 6 Yuka is at least twice as hard as she was on normal.


Her final phase made me lose like 3 lives.

http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o455/KirkOBob/GRATZ.jpg

Okay, 1cc MS normal time.

http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o455/KirkOBob/ROMANTIC.jpg

I just now noticed that sign. It says romantic by the way.

Oh...yay stage 4 now. The only things that I have lost were two bombs. Not bad.

Yuki and Mai with 7 lives and 4 bombs. Lost a life at yandere Luize.

On Mai with 7 lives and 1 bomb. Wanted to play it safe.

Lost a life and 2 bombs on Mai. A loss of 2 lives and 5 bombs on the stage in total. Not too bad.

1cc MS normal whoohoo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: mad on May 02, 2009, 07:18:28 PM
Beat the stage part of IN stage 2 lunatic without losing any lives or bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 02, 2009, 09:35:39 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3156

I was bored and this horror was the result.  SA stage 4 Normal w/ Reimu C, pacifist no focus.

I got to the first recollection spell, which is better than I expected to do.  Orin's second attack and Terrifying Souvenir both raped me pretty bad though :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 02, 2009, 10:57:24 PM
I survived the first half of EoSD stage 5 without bombing. This may not sound like much, but even with the loophole I still fail at the part after the spam. I only killed one fairy but still somehow survived.

And then I died to Sakuya's non-spell. >_< I actually figured out that the gaps of the red bullets are large enough so that it's feasible to do, and if you get into one gap you'll fit all the other gaps of that wave...but I still died.

Then I captured Illusional Misdirection! I hate that card.

Then I bombed the second half. I wish it could be more fun like the second half of MS stage 5...

Then Sakuya went quite well. Similar to her midboss attack, I figured out that her opener can be beaten in one wave if you fit in between the pink knives and center yourself on her.

But the real accomplishment is that I faced Killing Doll on max rank, and survived four waves of it before succumbing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 02, 2009, 11:08:24 PM
And then I died to Sakuya's non-spell. >_< I actually figured out that the gaps of the red bullets are large enough so that it's feasible to do, and if you get into one gap you'll fit all the other gaps of that wave...but I still died.

Yea I occasionally try this ever since watching the Ultra Mode video. It's borderline impossible to do if she moves low, though.
In my experience, if she moves low, you MUST jump 2 lines of red bullets if you want to survive... that's monstrously hard to do consistently, so I just bomb ._.

A (minor) accomplishment: I cleared stage 6 hard (after a continue) on MoF, so I've got it up for practice, and my second attempt at VoWG failed about 2 seconds before I captured it - which was both annoying and satisfying. Uhm, I didn't actually notice any major difference between VoWG and MoF tbh, it was just a bit faster, with slightly tighter gaps...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 02, 2009, 11:26:24 PM
I just managed to evade 3/4 of the Purple Rings of Death TM just by twitching my controller's pad in random directions.  I loathe Fujiyama Volcano with a vengeance, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on May 03, 2009, 12:34:42 AM
I survived the first half of EoSD stage 5 without bombing. This may not sound like much, but even with the loophole I still fail at the part after the spam. I only killed one fairy but still somehow survived.

And then I died to Sakuya's non-spell. >_< I actually figured out that the gaps of the red bullets are large enough so that it's feasible to do, and if you get into one gap you'll fit all the other gaps of that wave...but I still died.

Then I captured Illusional Misdirection! I hate that card.

Then I bombed the second half. I wish it could be more fun like the second half of MS stage 5...

Then Sakuya went quite well. Similar to her midboss attack, I figured out that her opener can be beaten in one wave if you fit in between the pink knives and center yourself on her.

But the real accomplishment is that I faced Killing Doll on max rank, and survived four waves of it before succumbing.

Purposely didn't use the dead zone hax for sakuya's non spell?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 03, 2009, 12:47:16 AM
I never use that. It's got no style, and for me tricks like that tend to kill me more than doing it the right way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on May 03, 2009, 02:54:22 AM
Do you time it down by not shooting then? or you grit your teeth and bear though the bullshit after Sakuya mid boss. Just curious.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 03, 2009, 03:15:17 AM
I prefer my own survival of a midboss attack over needing to use an extra bomb in the part after her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 03, 2009, 04:48:49 AM
Cleared PCB Extra and Phantasm and SA Extra

HELL YES

still made tons of stupid mistakes on all of them though. for some reason my tendency to make dumb errors always kills me
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 03, 2009, 05:22:14 AM
I don't know whether it's because I'm used to it in PoFV or because of the way Time goes, but I can now capture most Easy, some Normal, and a few Hard cards completely unfocused with Marisa and Youmu (the fast ones), including Astronomical Entombing (Easy) and Mystia's Last Spell (Normal).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 03, 2009, 08:39:59 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3161

R.I.P. Virtue of Wind God 1/89.

This happened on my third attempt on the stage today.  That was kind of nice, I wish that would happen more often.  I've no idea why the replay says I didn't clear it btw, because I most definitely did.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 04, 2009, 03:08:22 AM
Keine's, Kaguya's, Remilia's, Reisen's, Mokou's and Eirin's Last Words have all been timed out...  A few others also look really easy, but I'm dreading Yuyuko's, Wriggle's and Mystia's.  I really don't get Mystia's, the others are just going to be a ton of practice I'm sure.

Edit:  Wow, check off Sakuya and Tewi.

Edit 2: Oh god, total purification.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 04, 2009, 03:42:01 AM
IN Hard 1cc!  All that's left is PCB and SA.

Sure, it was the crappiest 1cc ever, finished 0/1, died twice on Hourai Jewel alone (I SUCK at that card), spammed bombs like nobody's business, grand total of 9 cards captured (only 1 of Kaguya's - Buddhist Diamond), and I forgot to save the replay - but a clear's a clear!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 04, 2009, 05:31:42 AM
Q.E.D captures are like buses. You wait forever and then two happen in a row.

>_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 04, 2009, 02:02:48 PM
QED captured.

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3164

I couldn't be bothered sitting through it for a screenshot.  :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 04, 2009, 04:52:47 PM
Nothing special but i guess its somewhat of an accomplishment.

Captured everything on SA Normal including Satori's recollection spells. Some of them playing as Alice, Patchy or Nitori was tough because Marisas movement always fucks with me. Oh and i only have a few spells left to capture on Hard. Except if you count Satori, then i still got a way to go before i cap everything on Hard. I haven't been playing for several days so i was afraid i would die if i didn't play. At least something came out of it instead of mindless playing around with easy stuff which is how i usually play. Sadly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 04, 2009, 06:21:24 PM
Who's the strongest? ^_~

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4610/mysticawesome.png)

It's official. If I fail MS lunatic, I will fail it even on max lives. If I clear, it will always be with one life remaining. I'm actually very surprised I pulled this off, considering my rather shoddy performance all around, including dying with full bombs on stage 4. The only real highlights to this were once again beating cheeto lasers with only one bomb and not dying to Yumeko's laser streaming attack of O_O. See, I learned way back when that with Mima, once the attack goes insane, if you bomb once, shotgun Yumeko, and move back down, the attack will end before anything reaches you.

But still...I feel somewhat dissatisfied. The random bullet attack RNG was pretty kind to me, but considering each and every one of these attacks has some amount of slowdown, it bugs me that it may have influenced the outcome. Oh well...I'll get that better computer someday...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 04, 2009, 06:40:06 PM
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But still...I feel somewhat dissatisfied. The random bullet attack RNG was pretty kind to me, but considering each and every one of these attacks has some amount of slowdown, it bugs me that it may have influenced the outcome. Oh well...I'll get that better computer someday...

Once you get that new computer, you should upload some pc-98 videos onto youtube.  There's hardly any stuff out there of pc-98 games on the higher difficulties, and it's high time the world saw Lunatic Yumeko in all her terrifying glory.

Anyways, I think I've managed to crack stage 3 of IN (I have a bad habit of achieving things right after complaining about them in the rage thread...).  I almost got a perfect run of it, but Legend of Gensokyo got me at the precise second that it was about to end.  Time to start grinding stage 4...
 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 04, 2009, 06:46:28 PM
I have every intention of recording PC-98 lunatic runs once I get a new computer (and recording equipment of course). There actually was a video of lunatic Yumeko uploaded by this old player named Laggy (I don't know if he still plays or not). He took it down for some reason though...

Quote
Anyways, I think I've managed to crack stage 3 of IN (I have a bad habit of achieving things right after complaining about them in the rage thread...).  I almost got a perfect run of it, but Legend of Gensokyo got me at the precise second that it was about to end.  Time to start grinding stage 4...

Sucks. :( Legend of Gensokyo doesn't give me much trouble now that I actually took the time to practice it and learn the correct movements. Ephermerality 137 keeps me from wanting to strive for a perfect Keine battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 04, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
Yeah, Ephemerality is a bitch with the Border Team.  Though I'm not too fond of the entire Keine fight really.  The whole thing forces you to memorize all of her patterns until they become completely trivial, since they can be absolutely brutal otherwise.  Probably why I don't feel bad about cheesing through it with the Malice Cannon.  You're basically just exchanging one memorization grindfest for another. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 04, 2009, 08:11:11 PM
Not that special, but 1CC clear normal PCB.

Is EOSD normal harder, because it took me a lot more tries to 1CC that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 04, 2009, 08:13:14 PM
1cc SA Hard, with Reimu A.
Stages 4 and 5 were an absolute trainwreck, with my power never getting higher than 3 the whole time. But I got there.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 04, 2009, 08:50:02 PM
Not that special, but 1CC clear normal PCB.

Is EOSD normal harder, because it took me a lot more tries to 1CC that.

I find it easier. If EoSD was your first ever clear, it makes sense that it would take more tries :o

OT: MoF Hard 1cc. SA is being a bitch :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 04, 2009, 09:56:34 PM
190 tries, total purification successfully timed out  ;D

The rest look fairly BS though.  I'd take any tips on Yuyuko, Wriggle and Mystia...  Alice looks just like a crazy memorization fest, and Youmu's gets crazy eventually but I don't think there are any tricks to it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on May 05, 2009, 12:07:25 AM
The rest look fairly BS though.  I'd take any tips on Yuyuko, Wriggle and Mystia...  Alice looks just like a crazy memorization fest, and Youmu's gets crazy eventually but I don't think there are any tricks to it.
Wriggle's... move vertically and just hope you can run down the timer :P

For Mystia's, all of the arrow bullets are aimed at your current position once fired, so you'll just need to micro the green bullets. I'm really not sure if the green bullets are aimed or not, but they seem to be... I'll need to play this card a bit, haven't done so since July of 08 >_>

And Yuyuko's? Let's just say you'll gain a lot of respect from me if you manage to pull it off, not that that really means anything  ::)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 05, 2009, 12:27:30 AM
Ephermerality 137 keeps me from wanting to strive for a perfect Keine battle.
Funny, I've never found Ephemerality to be much of a problem. GHQ Crisis utterly destroys me on the other hand, though. Is there some trick to it or is it just dodge extremely nasty danmaku on the fly?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 05, 2009, 12:30:51 AM
EBWOP:

The rest look fairly BS though.  I'd take any tips on Yuyuko.
gj re: Total Purification. As for Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, expect this to take more runs than all the other last words combined, if the history of some Japanese player who timed out all the Last Words and my own experience with this card say anything:
Timing out this card requires two things: being able to read the wave of blue butterflies properly when it has overlapping red butterflies over it, and hoping that none of the waves of red butterflies+bubbles are bullshit. None of the thirteen waves.

If you time this out successfully, yeah, you'll get a lot of respect from me as well. Not that that means anything, though :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 05, 2009, 12:33:03 AM
Funny, I've never found Ephemerality to be much of a problem. GHQ Crisis utterly destroys me on the other hand, though. Is there some trick to it or is it just dodge extremely nasty danmaku on the fly?

You can dodge the first wave by standing in the exact bottom center, and if you're playing as the Ghost/Magic teams you can take out some of the familiars during that time.  Other than that, the whole thing is static, so you can just micromemorize it.  In fact, I'm pretty sure all of her attacks are static except for Three Sacred Treasures.  Like I said, the Keine battle is pretty dumb.



Edit:  FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I just captured the opening fairy-spam attack in PCB stage 6.  I got driven into a corner just as the fairies left the screen, with an impenetrable wall coming right at me.  Then, the very nanosecond I was about to get hit, Youmu came in to save the day!  I'd never been happier to see that fugly old portrait of hers in my whole life(companioncube.jpg).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 05, 2009, 06:01:54 AM
All you people and your QED capturing led me to give Flansocks another shot.  Much, much better than my original clear, at least.  Died almost immediately to Cranberry Trap (sadly) but then did everything fine until Maze of Love, when I almost successfully ran the maze until I didn't.  I died.

Didn't capture anything else, but it was one bomb or death per card (two bombs on QED, but the second was unnecessary and I had a third in stock anyway) instead of two bombs or a bomb and death for the rest.  I should have capped ATWTBN but I dodged like an absolute ⑨ on one of the yellow waves towards the end.  Screwed up QED and bombed almost immediately, but hey, it's QED.  Did the rest of it pretty well, though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 05, 2009, 06:49:46 AM
MoF. VoWG at Hard. 3 tries is all it took. Each one more progressively closer to capturing than the last. That's some serious dodging. I fortunately didn't have to sit myself in between amulets though; I prefer to dodge vertically more (screenshot in fullscreen by the way)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl15.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=92&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 05, 2009, 07:00:18 AM
MoF. VoWG at Hard. 3 tries is all it took. Each one more progressively closer to capturing than the last. That's some serious dodging. I fortunately didn't have to sit myself in between amulets though; I prefer to dodge vertically more (screenshot in fullscreen by the way)
Nicely done!

I find it mildly amusing that you've gotten Unremembered Crop 4 times, but Mad Dance only once.  Mad Dance is really simple on all difficulties, while Unremembered Crop gives me hell compared to the Lunatic version, which adds the blues but has much fewer green/red waves.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 05, 2009, 07:08:25 AM
Nicely done!

I find it mildly amusing that you've gotten Unremembered Crop 4 times, but Mad Dance only once.  Mad Dance is really simple on all difficulties, while Unremembered Crop gives me hell compared to the Lunatic version, which adds the blues but has much fewer green/red waves.
It took me a few tries to get the general strategy for Mad Dance down. I attempted to use the solution for the similar spell card on Easy / Normal, which is moving vertically. After realizing it was (close to?) impossible, I decided to attempt streaming horizontally (very slowly).

I'm now trying VoWG Lunatic out. Trying to position yourself between amulets is extremely difficult. There's too much happening on screen for me to focus on positioning myself.

Best case: 5 incidents before ending the card.
Worst case: 12+ incidents.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 05, 2009, 07:08:52 AM
I just lost to Icicle Fall Easy.

3 times.

゚∀゚

EDIT: Dear god EoSD easy is painful to go through. There can't have ever been more than 8 bullets on the screen at once.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Herasy on May 05, 2009, 01:24:22 PM
Finally gained an accomplishment!
PCB normal cleared!

Although I had Zero lives and Zero bombs at the end, I hate those red butterflies.  :-\
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 05, 2009, 01:42:23 PM
So last night I capped VoWG 5 times in a row.

Then today I wake up after entirely too little sleep, decide to play MoF stage 6 highly-sleep-deprived. Do a run with lulzy deaths on the stage, a death to-of all things-Kanako's streaming knives on her final noncard (how in the hell did I manage that? Definetly something for the Most Embarrasing Touhou Moments thread) and then I cap VoWG.

What.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 05, 2009, 08:34:11 PM
Not that special, but 1CC clear normal PCB.

Is EOSD normal harder, because it took me a lot more tries to 1CC that.

I'm a little crazy i know but in my opinion, EoSD Hard is easier than PCB Normal.

Ohoh!!! Finally something worthwhile to post! Completely out of the blue i managed to beat Subterranean Animism on Hard difficulty. I guess its time then. Whenever i feel like startin' i'll be embarking on the road to madness!

Oh and no ZUN, I'm afraid i can't dodge rain...  ;D

Maybe, if I'm a little to lazy to get started with Lunatic yet, I'll tie up some loose ends with the Hard mode. There's some spells that needs capturing and so on.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 05, 2009, 08:41:44 PM
Does ZUN's congratulations thing on hard say something about dodging rain? I beat hard mode before the English patch came out and am too lazy to do it again.

Anyway, can a run through IN stage 5 count as a perfect run if I only fail Tele-mesmerism? PLEASE? I hate that spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 05, 2009, 10:09:43 PM
Yeah, ZUN's like "You're so awesome you should go out and dodge rain".

Slightly paraphrased.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 05, 2009, 10:28:35 PM
I like his text for lunatic. "You can probably see an unusual world. Let's go drinking next time."
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 05, 2009, 10:36:22 PM

I'm a little crazy i know but in my opinion, EoSD Hard is easier than PCB Normal.


I'd say quite crazy judging from that. I've already come quite close to getting a good ending at PCB even though I'm mighty inconstant ("Woot! I'm the man now! I've beaten stage 4 losing only one life!" **loses whole continue before the end of stage 5**). But I think my very best runs on EoSD have only taken me so far as Sakuya. I'm also not convinced that more training will make Remilia easier than Yuyuko so...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on May 06, 2009, 02:03:01 AM
Fuck yeeessssssss! Finally beat Flandre! First ever extra stage clear, whoo~~~

My score is low for some reason. Most of my higher-end attempts end up with more points than this, but whatever. If anyone wants to see it, I uploaded the replay. It's really nothing spectacular. But I still did it >o<

I also totally bombed through the last parts of Q.E.D. XD

Oh and I ALMOST captured that time-out card... literally one more second and it would have been mine >__>

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3174
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 06, 2009, 02:04:55 AM
wow dude nice job

I would expect eosd to be my last extra clear O.O
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on May 06, 2009, 02:08:57 AM
I'm going through in order again trying to clear Hard and Extra, so this was my first stop. Can only usually get to stage 5 on Lunatic without continuing(on a good day).

On to PCB, I suppose~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 06, 2009, 02:29:15 AM
wow dude nice job

I would expect eosd to be my last extra clear O.O
It was my first too, oddly.  I'd been trying it for a while, got frustrated, switched over to Ran, got pounded, came back after a while and finally cleared it.

...then tried Ran again and beat her, second try.  Bah.  At least she's quite a bit easier than Flansocks.  Good luck with her!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: notanineidiot on May 06, 2009, 04:00:54 AM
I tried MoF Stage 6 on Easy, and made a few small achievements.

The breakdown of MoF Stage 6 Easy:
Stage Opening: Really don't like the opening in this stage.
Rest of the Stage: I should probably find a safer route than rushing to the sides of the screen.
Kanako Opening: I think I can only capture this unfocused.
Divine Festival: Okay.
Non Card: The new oval route seems to be going well.
Rice Porridge: Unlucky clip death(s).
Non Card: Lucky capture.
Misayama Hunting: I think I have a route for this.
Non Card: Need to improve on how to handle new route which puts me in front of Kanako after the bubbles.
Heaven's Stream: Almost had a capture.
Mountain of Faith: Maybe I'm understanding it? I notice that when I die I'm near where the openings are.

Trying to decide which replay to upload...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Contempt on May 06, 2009, 06:31:22 AM
I've cleared Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil extra, Perfect Cherry Blossom extra/phantasm, Imperishable Night extra, Mountain of Faith extra, and Subterranean Animism extra in the last month. In that order too.

Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil took me about a week, first Touhou other then IN. But I only messed around in IN at first. First extra clear, took me about five days after first time playing extra to beat it. Reimu B used.

Perfect Cherry Blossom extra took two days, phantasm took two days. Reimu A used

Imperishable Night extra took two days, easy I thought. Used Illusionary Border Team first time. One day to beat it with Visionary Scarlet Devil Team and one more day to beat it with Netherworld Dwellers' Team.

Mountain of Faith took two days, most easy extra for me. I actually got to the very last spell card my second time playing that stage ever before I died. Reimu forward type used.

Subterranean Animism extra was the HARDEST by far for me. Took me a whole week. Some thing about the heart pattern attacks cause my eyes to act weird. Probably due to the fact I can voluntary cause rapid eye movement while awake.  Reimu A used

I have a good memory especially for playing games and patterns. I think that contributed a lot for these extras. Now I am thinking about clearing lunatic for all these games.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 06, 2009, 07:36:16 AM
I found some files that allow me to "fix" certain bugs, and modify other things.

No more MarisaB(ugged). However, it will mess with replays that have used the bug, simply because not enough damage will have been dealt.

...or bugged Cherry (which I don't know about).

It even allows me to alter FPS. Which means that now I can play EoSD and MoF windowed constantly. Hooray. Bleh, it's not working for EoSD... And I just figured out why.

Now to get back to capturing VoWG.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 06, 2009, 07:39:01 AM
No more MarisaB(ugged). However, it will mess with replays that have used the bug, simply because not enough damage will have been dealt.

Yaaaay. Now it's just a mediocre shot type that is inferior in each and every way to Reimu B. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 06, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
Yaaaay. Now it's just a mediocre shot type that is inferior in each and every way to Reimu B. >_>
Well, it was completely game-breaking before. Now it'll actually give me a decent challenge should I decide to bomb a few times.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 06, 2009, 09:28:05 AM
I just captured the EoSD stage four books at max rank while half asleep.

Being half asleep may have actually helped.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 06, 2009, 07:22:43 PM
I find it easier. If EoSD was your first ever clear, it makes sense that it would take more tries :o

OT: MoF Hard 1cc. SA is being a bitch :(
*Tries to 1CC EOSD again*

I did it on my FIRST try. T_T
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 06, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
Yeah, ZUN's like "You're so awesome you should go out and dodge rain".

Slightly paraphrased.

I believe it's "You can probably dodge the rain drops coming down.". I tried to take a screenshot after my 1cc but, for whatever reason, neither the Home key or the Print Screen function actually worked. Bah.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 06, 2009, 08:10:19 PM
Quote
Urk.  Resurrection Butterfly.  I suck at it.  Even if it's not the hardest of the mammoth spell cards to capture, it's sure one of the most frustrating.  One little wrong movement at any moment for 70 seconds, and you lose.

...

...

*One day later*

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9099/resurrectionbutterflye.jpg)

GOSH DARNIT WHY DO I KEEP DOING THAT?

I really oughta stop it, it's getting kinda annoying ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 06, 2009, 08:14:53 PM
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 06, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
I wish I could do that on normal.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 06, 2009, 09:22:44 PM
I captured 30% once and Border of Life screaming at the top of it's decibels plus the explosion, Spell Card Bonus! and millions of cherry is a great, great feeling.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 07, 2009, 01:53:44 AM
lmfao I captured Border of Human and Youkai on my first try. Intense.

Today I almost timed-out Wind God "Storm Day" (Lunatic). Stage 3 MoF with the streams of bullets that spread wider towards the back. Here's what happened: I died very quickly on a practice stage, about 5 seconds into it. I had quite a few spare lives left, so I decided to time it out and see what happens. I time the rest of it out without bombing or dying. If I didn't die in the beginning it would've been an easy capture haha.

I did, however, time out Water Sign "Kappa's Great Illusionary Waterfall" (Lunatic). Stage 3 MoF with the random bubbles.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on May 07, 2009, 05:22:02 AM
I can do IaMP on Normal now, even though it takes an eternity to finish those spellcards. Yay me.

Reached PCB stage 6 Easy with 7 lives in stock. Then I screwed around with stuff and finished with 3.

1cc of LLS Easy.

I have 135 touhoumons.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 07, 2009, 05:57:28 AM
So, yesterday was my birthday and thus I feel pumped and awesome. I tried EoSD Extra maybe 12 times, all failed before Catadioptric.

Today, I have a sinus cold, can barely concentrate and feel like crap. I try once and get to the last few moments of QED.

What.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 07, 2009, 08:12:07 AM
Here's 8 last word time outs -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehoaMXwCBs&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehoaMXwCBs&fmt=22)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJiyDwShsoI&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJiyDwShsoI&fmt=22)

I've caught one more after that, but currently hit the brick (butterfly?) wall of Saigyouji Flawless Why-Are-You-Even-Trying-To-Play.

More as I get them, I guess...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 07, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
HELL YEAH!!!!
Just got my first Good Ending, with Sakuya A on PCB.
Got to Stage 6 with, I think, 4 or 5 lives. Handled Youmu without much trouble, died TWICE on Lost Village...
Turns out I crawled through a very very bad Yuyuko run and finished on my last life with only one bomb in stock after Ressurection Butterfly (by then I was already on full-out bombardment mode).
Not an ending I'm proud of, but CERTAINLY an achievement I am.
I'm a fucking GOD now!
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 07, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
His Hard mode comment is:

Thank you for Playing. I'm sure you can dodge all the rain falling down. Right?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 07, 2009, 08:16:11 PM
HELL YEAH!!!!
Just got my first Good Ending, with Sakuya A on PCB.
Got to Stage 6 with, I think, 4 or 5 lives. Handled Youmu without much trouble, died TWICE on Lost Village...
Turns out I crawled through a very very bad Yuyuko run and finished on my last life with only one bomb in stock after Ressurection Butterfly (by then I was already on full-out bombardment mode).
Not an ending I'm proud of, but CERTAINLY an achievement I am.
I'm a fucking GOD now!
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Yeah good job.  I also had a really bad Yuyuko, but I captured her last spell card.  ( not resurrection butterfly)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 07, 2009, 08:21:24 PM
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil 1cc Hard GET.

Only Mountain of Faith on hard to go. And UFO, of course.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 07, 2009, 10:35:34 PM
Yeah good job.  I also had a really bad Yuyuko, but I captured her last spell card.  ( not resurrection butterfly)

Perfect Blossom. I had some funny times (the bad kind of funny XD) on that one. I'm making the videos so I can upload  everything to youtube. When I do so I'll drop the link.


Also: HELL YEAH! THANK YOU!!! (this is a day where everything's extreme)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 07, 2009, 11:47:24 PM
MoF Normal Mode 1cc!  Granted, it was with MarisaB, but still.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 07, 2009, 11:59:41 PM
With Marisa B on MoF it only counts if its your first lunatic 1CC
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 08, 2009, 12:34:19 AM
So, for the longest time I've only had stages 1-4 of SA Lunatic available for practice.  Today I decided to make another stab at it to get 5 and 6.  The run turned out to be quite...interesting.

First off, I got past stage 1 without dying on my first try, which is a fucking miracle in and of itself.  Then on stage 2 I died twice before midboss Parsee. >_>  Despite this I carried on, and the boss fight, as well as stage 3, went smoothly.  Stage 4 was really sloppy, but with my tried-and-true 'Bomb the shit out of everything' strategy(It really works, honest it does!) I got through stage 5 before finally getting my ass kicked by Orin's first boss card.  I even managed to dodge one wave of Catwalk.

After that was an hour-long continue-spamming fest that got me the stages I wanted.  But my eventual successful stage 6 run is what was interesting.  It had me capping Blazing Wheel, Nuclear Reaction(wut) and Peta Flare, then subsequently dying to her second and third(wut) noncards.  I also quintuple-bombed and died once on Subterranean Sun, bringing me to 0 lives and 0 power by the end. 

So yeah, a heterogeneous mix of win and fail all around.  Time to go get raped in practice mode...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Easy Mode on May 08, 2009, 12:36:16 AM
I finally did it. Finally did it...
LLS normal, no continues. I've been bitching about it for a good month or so.
FINALLY.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 08, 2009, 12:37:00 AM
I finally did it. Finally did it...
LLS normal, no continues. I've been bitching about it for a good month or so.
FINALLY.
Congratulations! Out of curiosity, who did you use?

EDIT: kicking snowballs in tHRtP is fun!

EDIT 2: VoWG Lunatic. 2 Mistakes before ending the card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 03:47:31 AM
HRtP Reimu is such a badass!  ;D I just learned that just pressing x during a slide initiates a kick. This means that some things that were previously bullet walls are not not! It's a little buggy though...but what isn't? :V I 2cc'd Makai hard route thanks to screwing up Yuugen Magan, but I made up for it by beating both Elis and Sariel with no bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 08, 2009, 04:02:29 AM
1cc'd UFO Hard demo
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 04:12:48 AM
1cc'd HRtP hard Jigoku route. Fun times.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 08, 2009, 04:16:06 AM
Hmmm.... I was playing stage practice in PCB just now, and I noticed something very interesting, something that could be pretty beneficial if my theory on it is correct.  However, I'm going to refrain from posting about it until I do more testing and see if it's actually worthwhile.  Don't wanna throw it out only for it to turn out to be a wild goose chase.  If it turns out I'm on to something, I might make a separate topic for it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 04:23:48 AM
Don't be like that. Tell us~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 08, 2009, 06:08:36 AM
I think that he discovered that if the bullets cross your character but not the red ball you see when you press shift you are unharmed...That would be awesome XD
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 06:16:35 AM
Wait...what?

*checks*

DUDE, that's fucking sweet!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 08, 2009, 06:52:21 AM
Double what?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 08, 2009, 06:59:06 AM
Double what?
I believe the proper term is "lolwut".

Also, I'm still not certain how I managed to unlock Stage 4 in practice on SA Lunatic, considering as I tried practice today and it still took me a few tries to beat Satori.  (Actually, it was pure ninja skills, but...yeah.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 08, 2009, 07:23:31 AM
Such is the power of SA bombspamming. 

btw I was just screwing around with spell practice (testing my theory~) and I capped Life Spring Infinity and Asteroid belt, both for the first time, with the Ghost Team.  LSI is actually pretty funny because Yuyuko's shotgunning kills it in like 2 waves.  Then I tried Hourai Elixer and capped it 3 times out of like 30 tries.  I think that's enough Touhou for today :P

And also, I think I'm going to use the Ghost Team instead of the Magic Team for my IN 1cc.  Those horribly designed stages were just too much.  I'm all for trying out unused shottypes and everything, but spending a combined 3 hours of practice just to get the hang of a single 3 minute stage just kind of broke me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 08, 2009, 07:24:34 AM
I think that he discovered that if the bullets cross your character but not the red ball you see when you press shift you are unharmed...That would be awesome XD
I wonder if there is seriously someone on this forum who doesn't know this yet
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 08, 2009, 07:38:48 AM
I wonder if there is seriously someone on this forum who doesn't know this yet

That would certainly be an accomplishment on its own




And also, I think I'm going to use the Ghost Team instead of the Magic Team for my IN 1cc. 


Happy Bombers team is quite nice. They've recently replaced "Look at me, I'm a pro" (Scarlet) Team as my favourite IN duo.
Magic team does disappoint, mainly because of Alice not trying hard enough. But Marisa is as awesome as ever. She breaks Keine like a twig and there are few things more fun that taking her to Astronomical Entombment Lunatic and making it look like an easy mode card.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 08, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
I believe the proper term is "lolwut".
double what = what what. As in I had no idea what was going on. Maybe I'm just too tired from coming back from a practical  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 07:50:13 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3197

Astronomical Entombing lunatic timeout. >_>

I love doing this. If anyone knows me, they know I hate Eirin with a fiery passion, her fight and her personality. So imagine how much fun it is to turn her into an absolute joke and have her shoot only one bullet on her final spell card. Sooooo satisfying. :)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 08, 2009, 07:54:18 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3197

Astronomical Entombing lunatic timeout. >_>

I love doing this. If anyone knows me, they know I hate Eirin with a fiery passion, her fight and her personality. So imagine how much fun it is to turn her into an absolute joke and have her shoot only one bullet on her final spell card. Sooooo satisfying. :)

Yes it is a complete joke (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=2630) of a card. Even without breaking the familiars. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=2643)

---

Fastest boss kill ever?

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/asdgag10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=95&u=12803292)

Like really, if you memorize the manipulation of the ball...  >_>

Also, trying more stupid things with Astronomical Entombing Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 08, 2009, 07:57:44 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3197

Astronomical Entombing lunatic timeout. >_>

I love doing this. If anyone knows me, they know I hate Eirin with a fiery passion, her fight and her personality. So imagine how much fun it is to turn her into an absolute joke and have her shoot only one bullet on her final spell card. Sooooo satisfying. :)

I actually was going to do that the first time I took Marisa to face that one. But then I got bored and just blasted her back into space.

Reisen: "Ah, sore wa...."
Alice: "Stuff to blow up?"
Marisa: "Stuff to blow up ! 8)"


Fastest boss kill ever?


Can't really make shit out of that SS, though XD (I'm sorta steering clear of the PC98 games while I can (although some of the characters are awesome)). But with Alice I regularly take down Orin in 7.5 seconds for YoukaiBlazingWheel (FacedollX3, "WHO'S THE CHEAP F***  NOW?!?! MUAAAAHAHAHAHAHA")
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 08, 2009, 08:08:10 AM
Yes it is a complete joke (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=2630) of a card. Even without breaking the familiars. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=2643)

It's even more fun when you use the worst youkai for the job: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=789

I tried timing it out without breaking any familiars or cheesing it about a year ago, but I never got the timer down below the mid to high 20s.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 08, 2009, 08:29:29 AM
It's even more fun when you use the worst youkai for the job: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=789

I tried timing it out without breaking any familiars or cheesing it about a year ago, but I never got the timer down below the mid to high 20s.
Timing it out without breaking familiars I can do with focus and Border Team cheapness. No focus timeout... might as well give it about 50 tries.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 08, 2009, 08:31:34 AM
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I'm half asleep right now how the fuck did I do this

[024iy2[-034yi34p[joy3
poj5y34opjhqwro;ajsdhaorsjh

Virtue of Wind God Lunatic timed out no bombs no deaths http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3198

Featuring infinite amounts of luck as I soar through one solid wall and manage to place myself perfectly on long unfocused dodges time and time again to get into tiny gaps! Like with my EoSD books capture the other night, I think that being half asleep helped here. It removed any hesitation I might have had when dodging and made me play and react more instinctively. The flip side of this, of course, is the effect that being half asleep had on my performance on the rest of the stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 08, 2009, 02:13:11 PM
Has Kefit only now discovered the benefits of being half asleep? I captured Scarlet Meister while half asleep, I think it may help with your playing in some areas.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 08, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
Kefit needs to drug himself on purpose every time he plays Touhou

jesus this is amazing
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 08, 2009, 09:08:05 PM
Finally got around to trying IN extra. Took me 4 tries: about 1 hour of playing to clear it (but by the GODS it was a messy run)
Thus, my accomplishment is not clearing it, but clearing it in so few attempts... surely that's something to be proud of.

Admittedly having seen so many replays and videos must have helped. But hey.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 08, 2009, 10:19:41 PM
VoWG Lunatic time out is now on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1MR9jOpH94&fmt=22#

No annotations this time, as there isn't any real way to point out some of the spiffier dodges that happen since the card is simply too fast paced. I do write an essay about VoWG playing styles in the video description though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 08, 2009, 10:45:13 PM
If you're INCLINED to do it you can just take it to Premiere or Vegas (or probably even Movie Maker) and insert slowdowns of places you might want to explain or show or whatever.

(But don't feel pressured. Everyone knows I hate and despise VoWG in all it's versions and proably won't really care much about it in a personal way)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Easy Mode on May 08, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
Congratulations! Out of curiosity, who did you use?

EDIT: kicking snowballs in tHRtP is fun!

EDIT 2: VoWG Lunatic. 2 Mistakes before ending the card.
Marisa, Marisa, only Marisa.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 09, 2009, 12:17:26 AM
When I was half-asleep I captured Emerald Megalith lmfao.

Also lmfao Kefit that has got to be one of the luckiest replays I've seen haha

EDIT: YES I finally captured that goddamn Hydro Camouflauge whatever that MoF stage 3 midboss spell is called.

There's a little bit of luck involved since sometimes there are a few stray bubbles that really constrict you, making them near impossible to dodge. The trick is to locate at which heights near the bottom of the screen will the horizontal gap between the diagonal bullets is maximum. The first wave is an inch or two above the bottom of the screen. From there, just dodge within the gap and adjust accordingly.

Damn that was hard. 1/16 O___O
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on May 09, 2009, 01:12:49 AM
No focus timed out Asteroid Belt with Border Team on my second try today... glad to know that I still have some dodging skill left in me despite lack of play and being out of practice. Guess I might as well play a few more minutes of Touhou.

Also, damnit Kefit.

Edit: Just found a safe spot in Kaguya's first card, haha; allowed me to time it out without breaking a sweat >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 09, 2009, 01:42:21 AM
Safe...spot? Brilliant Dragon Bullet? Really? Why do I have the feeling that I don't really want to know it, for it may ruin a perfectly good spell card like the safespot on Utsuho's third spell card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 09, 2009, 01:58:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-oUDOn5_8c&fmt=22

I filmed myself dicking around in EoSD Extra. I've been meaning to do this for a while, as I've often wondered myself what kind of setup the really good touhou players play with, but was never actually able to find any videos of it. So here's mine; maybe some people find it interesting.

As an added bonus, it might help dispel some claims regarding the legitimacy of my runs (which is what pushed me to finally put in the effort of setting up a camera in the first place).

I made a bunch of mistakes in the run (I didn't even clear it, in fact) but there were enough ridiculous stunts I pulled off successfully to make it worthwhile.

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3205
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 09, 2009, 02:51:16 AM
I filmed myself dicking around in EoSD Extra. I've been meaning to do this for a while, as I've often wondered myself what kind of setup the really good touhou players play with, but was never actually able to find any videos of it. So here's mine; maybe some people find it interesting.

Huh, I've never actually thought of trying anything besides the defaults.  WER is interesting, I might need to try it out sometime.  I can see moving focus off of shift, but is there any reason for WER over, say, ASD?

The Starbow Break and QED fails also made me feel a bit better about myself  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 09, 2009, 03:34:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-oUDOn5_8c&fmt=22

I filmed myself dicking around in EoSD Extra. I've been meaning to do this for a while, as I've often wondered myself what kind of setup the really good touhou players play with, but was never actually able to find any videos of it. So here's mine; maybe some people find it interesting.

As an added bonus, it might help dispel some claims regarding the legitimacy of my runs (which is what pushed me to finally put in the effort of setting up a camera in the first place).

I made a bunch of mistakes in the run (I didn't even clear it, in fact) but there were enough ridiculous stunts I pulled off successfully to make it worthwhile.

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3205

That was damn impressive.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 09, 2009, 04:30:15 AM
Hey guys, would a perfect Lunatic MoF stage entirely done pacifist be impressive?

I know I can do stage 1, and I think I might be able to do 2, maybe even 5.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 09, 2009, 07:50:11 AM
Huh, I've never actually thought of trying anything besides the defaults.  WER is interesting, I might need to try it out sometime.  I can see moving focus off of shift, but is there any reason for WER over, say, ASD?

I changed it from the defaults because they block with some combinations of key presses on this keyboard. WER + arrow keys seems to be one of the few combinations that don't block under any circumstances.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 09, 2009, 09:55:32 AM
I actually have a pad that I use most of the time, sometimes even using it's analog stick. Its OBVIOUSLY less precise (parsee's Granpa Hanasaka actually made me start a steady migration towards the d-pad quite some time ago) but it's very fluid and comfortable. I also play in my keyboard some times and it's alright as well.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 09, 2009, 05:01:01 PM
Internet was down yesterday, so I decided to reclear every extra.

So I did. It was great. Captured a bunch of cards I had never before, including Hourai Doll, Counter Clock and Fujiyama Volcano.

Jesus.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 09, 2009, 07:31:13 PM
Finally finished up capturing, converting, uploading and everything.
Here's my first Touhou Good Ending Run, with Sakuya on PCB (for the 5% of you to whom this will not look pathetic and boring, anyway (oh, wait, I'll spam it regardless of that, so it's cool anyway  8)))

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=62CB9672FA103F79 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=62CB9672FA103F79)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 09, 2009, 11:36:47 PM
Perfected stage 1 SA easy with ReimuC pacifist no focus.

...but I didn't save the replay on accident. I hate how MoF and SA save replays.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gambit on May 10, 2009, 12:42:54 AM
I managed to 1cc MoF hard last night. My only highlight for the entire run was capturing Illusionary Dominance. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 10, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
1cc MoF hard.
Whatever.

The run was awful, I don't think I even captured 10 cards the whole way through, the Sanae fight was TERRIBLE and VoWG was just a panic-fest after I died twice to Source of Rains for no good reason.

I'll probably revisit it at some point, but it still remains my least favourite Touhou shooting game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 11, 2009, 04:37:54 AM
VoWG Lunatic.

I think I just found a general pattern I can follow... I made astounding progress, might actually capture before my 60th attempt (currently at 42 fails).

Might need to watch a few timeout replays to confirm this.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 11, 2009, 04:48:41 AM
I captured VoWG lunatic at try 64. Make that your goal.

Oh, and since my ancient computer appears to finally be dying, I probably won't be doing anything in the way of accomplishments for a while. But then once we get a new computer I will FINALLY be able to play at 60 FPS all the time! :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 11, 2009, 05:00:15 AM
I've been trying Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana for a while now, and I've gotten completely owned by it.  For fun, I decided to stop going for a time out and go for a capture.  I was able to capture it really, really easily....  I'm sure I could have about a 75% capture rate on it if I tried.

Timing it out still eludes me though  :'(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 11, 2009, 05:05:18 AM
Capped Mishaguji-sama, if that's even an accomplishment. What a lame final card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 11, 2009, 05:11:58 AM
I captured VoWG lunatic at try 64. Make that your goal.

Oh, and since my ancient computer appears to finally be dying, I probably won't be doing anything in the way of accomplishments for a while. But then once we get a new computer I will FINALLY be able to play at 60 FPS all the time! :D
I'm already post-70s.  I hate you, donut. :P

VoWG Lunatic.

I think I just found a general pattern I can follow... I made astounding progress, might actually capture before my 60th attempt (currently at 42 fails).

Might need to watch a few timeout replays to confirm this.
You always think you have.  Then you get lolwalled. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 11, 2009, 05:19:22 AM
You always think you have.  Then you get lolwalled. :P

Surprisingly, it works to some extent, until the last 60 seconds or so. Of course, by this time you would think I would've captured it. The phase alters too much by this time.

Nope! Clipdeaths occur...

Even swapping to ReimuB like all the cool kids. 7 more seconds and my 45th (3rd with B) attempt would've been it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 11, 2009, 05:45:55 AM
VoWG took me 89 tries to beat, with all of them timing out the card after dying.  And this was as a lunatic player.  I'm so inferior. T.T  Then again, I captured Scarlet Meister in like 40 tries, so lolrandomnumbergenerator. 

Anyway, today I died to Scarlet Gensokyo for the billionth time, and in timing it out, managed to go for like 40 seconds without bombing or dying.  Twice I actually got an infamous wall thrown at me  but managed to find a pixel-perfect gap that went right through them.  Now, WHERE IS THIS KIND OF SKILL WHEN I ACTUALLY NEED IT.

I also timed out Eternal Meek without bombing or dying.  Yeah, its timer is like 13 seconds long, but it felt cool anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 11, 2009, 06:11:02 AM
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I also timed out Eternal Meek without bombing or dying.  Yeah, its timer is like 13 seconds long, but it felt cool anyway.

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I'm so inferior. T.T

Does not compute. X_X If anyone's inferior, it's me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 11, 2009, 06:29:53 AM
I think that my first VoWG capture came at like try 94? Not entirely sure though. Man, I remember the good old days when everyone agreed that it was utterly impossible bullshit.

Also Eternal Meek is easy to time-out 8)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 11, 2009, 06:35:50 AM
Eternal Meek is one of the few hard cards that I can say I'm somewhat decent at (and by decent I mean I've captured it like 11 times).    However, my competence with Eternal Meek is compensated in full by my unrivaled suckiness at Scarlet Gensokyo.  :P I... just fall apart whenever I face it.  It's probably just me, but I find it significantly harder than VoWG.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 11, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
I just did Kanako's opening attack pattern without bombing and clearing it. Take that Lunatic!

Too bad it was ReimuB.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 11, 2009, 08:56:11 AM
I recall capping VoWG on my 70th attempt at the card, and it was before I 1cc'd MoF Lunatic for that matter.

Eternal Meek is pretty easy to timeout imho, yeah.

And finally, as far as I'm concerned, Scarlet Gensokyo is much nastier than VoWG. I can go into VoWG and have a decent chance at capping it, but Scarlet Gensokyo typically kills me (granted, I've faced Scarlet Gensokyo much fewer times than VoWG, but it's also that I much prefer VoWG as an attack)o
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 11, 2009, 11:14:37 AM
I guess it depends on what you're good at.

Scarlet Gensokyo has slower bullets, but they fly in random directions and becomes total bullshit when the massive chain of bullets comes at you because they obscure your vision too.
Virtue of Wind God is faster and you need much faster reflexes, but at least the pattern is generally static throughout.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ghost333 on May 11, 2009, 12:12:10 PM
i just 1cc IN hard with youmu solo :)
i feel so high.......
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 11, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
Finally finished up capturing, converting, uploading and everything.
Here's my first Touhou Good Ending Run, with Sakuya on PCB (for the 5% of you to whom this will not look pathetic and boring, anyway (oh, wait, I'll spam it regardless of that, so it's cool anyway  8)))

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=62CB9672FA103F79 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=62CB9672FA103F79)

Those comments were awesome.

Indeed failure at life. XD
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 11, 2009, 11:32:29 PM
Those comments were awesome.

Indeed failure at life. XD

Thanks XD
Funny how good I am regularly against Yuyuko in every run except that one XD. I still haven't made my first cap of Ressurection Butterfly, for instance but have come VERY close to capping -30% and -50% quite a few times (with a single miss throughout the whole attack)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 11, 2009, 11:34:21 PM
Thanks XD
Funny how good I am regularly against Yuyuko in every run except that one XD. I still haven't made my first cap of Ressurection Butterfly, for instance but have come VERY close to capping -30% and -50% quite a few times (with a single miss throughout the whole attack)
Oh yeah stage 4 boss that opener...

Why don't you try to "get" the ghosts to aim their shots at the edge of the screen?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 11, 2009, 11:42:42 PM
Oh yeah stage 4 boss that opener...

Why don't you try to "get" the ghosts to aim their shots at the edge of the screen?

I've been getting some degree of success by sorta widely streaming the pattern and then making my way over the last wave when I reach the border. I'll give a look see if hugging edges help but for now I'm content that I can deal with it bombing always once sometimes twice XD. I kinda accepted: "The ghosts kill you. /thread" XD
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 12, 2009, 12:00:49 AM
I've been getting some degree of success by sorta widely streaming the pattern and then making my way over the last wave when I reach the border. I'll give a look see if hugging edges help but for now I'm content that I can deal with it bombing always once sometimes twice XD. I kinda accepted: "The ghosts kill you. /thread" XD
Yeah that's what I do.  Go to one side of the screen and then go to the other side of the screen so that the 3 shots that the ghosts miss you
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 12, 2009, 04:20:12 AM
Managed to 1cc PCB Easy with MarisaB, netting a few cards that I haven't capped before (most notably Sumizome Perfect Blossom -Seal-, and her second card).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Darkblizer on May 12, 2009, 07:50:03 AM
I know I said I wasn't going to play it again, but I magically managed to 1cc EoSD! I even still had 3 lives left. Now, I decided I wanted to try EoSD hard and compare it with normal mode and ended up 1ccing it on normal. Oh, here's the comparison:

Stage 1: No difference in the beginning, but the youkai that actually shoot have two rows of bullets now. Midboss Ruima seems mostly the same aside from the new spellcard.

Ruima: Some things have more spread, some attacks shoot more rows. Darkness Sign is noticably harder.

Stage 2: Mostly just more bullets, but Daiyousei's attack is now acting simaliar to one of Remi's noncards, only much easier.

Cirno:First noncard has some extra circular spread, and the first card changed completely. Perfect Freeze seems to have more bullets as does Diamond Blizzard.

Stage 3: Some enemies now have extra circular spread, Midboss China's card took a leap in difficulty. She shoots more bullets in her noncard, too.

China: many spellcards changed, and a new one is added in, not much aside.

Stage 4: just more bullets flying everywhere. Book lasers appear more abruptly.

Patchy: Non-directional laser sped up. Added spellcard. Fire sign has the fire hitting you from both sides at the same time.

Stage 5:almost no change except Sakuya's spellcard.

Sakuya: difficulty is really high. maid secret skill is much harder than before.

Stage 6: Circular bullet spreads now range in speeds. Not much else

Couldn't write about Remi due to insufficient info. Note I'm just including the most noticable changes

Next up: clear EoSD Extra then 1cc PCB.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 13, 2009, 01:26:18 AM
...I've finally worked out the workings of VoWG (down to the overlapping waves). The only thing stopping me is clipdeath error, and my horrible "read the wave" times.

Accounting for all possible areas of clipdeaths, multiplied by a probability ratio, I now have a ... 3.8% survival rate before capture. This is after 50 attempts or so. Expect a capture at 80-90 attempts.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on May 13, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
Accounting for all possible areas of clipdeaths, multiplied by a probability ratio, I now have a ... 3.8% survival rate before capture. This is after 50 attempts or so. Expect a capture at 80-90 attempts.

Quit your goofy math; this isn't algebra, this is Touhou. Go grind VoWG and dodge more bullets, damnit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 13, 2009, 12:37:57 PM
Quit your goofy math; this isn't algebra, this is Touhou. Go grind VoWG and dodge more bullets, damnit.
Guess what I just did?

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl19.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=100&u=12803292)
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3245

EDIT: The details.

The card itself can be broken down, with RNG taking heavy influence on the "secondary" waves. However, the "primary" waves are completely static, and can be micro-memorized. Following this, it's just basic reading and positioning.

Sleep  <_<

Then in the morning, I shall do ReimuA,B. And a MarisaB without bugginess.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 13, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Sir, I do believe I hate you now.

Congrats!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 13, 2009, 06:04:32 PM
I figured out how to handle "the guests" or whatever Sanae likes to call her first spellcard with the marvelous lasers! *gets shot*.

The rest of her stuff is very easy so a perfect stage 5 run followed afterwards. Its probably another story with Lunatic...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 13, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
I hate that card. I would get within 1mm of capturing it and *slap* laser-to-the-hitbox.

As for me, I'm going for my first Lunatic. PCB. Got to Youmu on attempt 2. Alice is just such an endurance thing though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 13, 2009, 11:36:35 PM
Made it through Yuugi's last attack pattern (Non-Spell) at Lunatic without dying / bombing. Going to see if I can do it again (once I get back from today's lectures / tutorials).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 14, 2009, 01:26:51 AM
SA was being a little bitch, so, for a change of pace, I tried EoSD's Extra, which I hadn't touched in a long while, and had only beaten once.  I did one runthrough and managed to clear it.  The Flandre battle was perfect up until Starbow Break, which I had a really stupid death on.  My score was still worse than my first clear though...>.>

The second runthrough?  Long story short, I got to the survival card with no resources, capped it for the first time, and then managed to whittle QED's healthbar down to a centimeter before finally failing.  I was a nervous wreck by the end(probably the main reason I failed).  To be honest, QED didn't seem nearly as bad as I remember.  Like I said, I failed it mostly due to nerves.  I might think differently after playing it some more, but Scarlet Gensokyo still seems harder in terms of capturing, imo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on May 14, 2009, 02:36:31 AM
Just did this:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3250

Me in a "Shot the Bullshit" moment, Stage 2-4.  Awesome way to do this.  The biggest danger?  Letty's fat ass running into you.  Srsly.  90% of the deaths trying to get this were from Letty buttbumping me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 14, 2009, 02:56:08 AM
I know I said I wasn't going to play it again, but I magically managed to 1cc EoSD! I even still had 3 lives left. Now, I decided I wanted to try EoSD hard and compare it with normal mode and ended up 1ccing it on normal. Oh, here's the comparison:

Stage 1: No difference in the beginning, but the youkai that actually shoot have two rows of bullets now. Midboss Ruima seems mostly the same aside from the new spellcard.

Ruima: Some things have more spread, some attacks shoot more rows. Darkness Sign is noticably harder.

Stage 2: Mostly just more bullets, but Daiyousei's attack is now acting simaliar to one of Remi's noncards, only much easier.

Cirno:First noncard has some extra circular spread, and the first card changed completely. Perfect Freeze seems to have more bullets as does Diamond Blizzard.

Stage 3: Some enemies now have extra circular spread, Midboss China's card took a leap in difficulty. She shoots more bullets in her noncard, too.

China: many spellcards changed, and a new one is added in, not much aside.

Stage 4: just more bullets flying everywhere. Book lasers appear more abruptly.

Patchy: Non-directional laser sped up. Added spellcard. Fire sign has the fire hitting you from both sides at the same time.

Stage 5:almost no change except Sakuya's spellcard.

Sakuya: difficulty is really high. maid secret skill is much harder than before.

Stage 6: Circular bullet spreads now range in speeds. Not much else

Couldn't write about Remi due to insufficient info. Note I'm just including the most noticable changes

Next up: clear EoSD Extra then 1cc PCB.

If you read carefully enough, most of the spellcard names change.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 14, 2009, 02:57:15 AM
Orin Lunatic Pacifist. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3247)

Tool-Assisted, obviously. Skip the stage, I suck at it. One bomb due to my inattention, I didn't realize how much the top of the screen cut off.

I'm gonna see how easy it is to get inside Ghost Wheels.

Dancing through Ghost Wheels. As in through the Ghost Wheels. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3249)

It's actually very easy. After a few bombs/deaths, the last fifteen seconds were the most amazing feeling ever.
Also Small Demon Revival awkward zooming, but whatever.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 14, 2009, 10:24:40 AM
wtf 2 captures in 2 days. Replay coming soon... again. This time with ReimuB. And a whole lot more skillful placement on my part.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3255
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 14, 2009, 01:56:28 PM
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VoWG Lunatic is overrated
SHUT THE HELL UP
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 14, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
SHUT THE HELL UP

Aw, COME ON! There's WEEKS I don't say that! And I'm not thinking it THAT loud!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on May 14, 2009, 08:31:40 PM
Second Hard 1CC. *dance*

Is it just me, or is playing skill in general behaving like a trigonometric function?
One evening you'll try over and over again, failling horribly. A few days later, when you finally beat it you even got 1 spare life or so. Happened with all but two extra clears and with both hard 1ccs...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 14, 2009, 08:54:44 PM
Second Hard 1CC. *dance*

Is it just me, or is playing skill in general behaving like a trigonometric function?
One evening you'll try over and over again, failling horribly. A few days later, when you finally beat it you even got 1 spare life or so. Happened with all but two extra clears and with both hard 1ccs...

Yeah often my first clear of something is a very successful run.
Take as an example: my first clear of EoSD extra was my first time into QED, and I finished with 3 lives (2 stars).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 14, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
...3rd capture in my 3rd day. I think I've finally gotten used to it. ReimuA.

Captures were at 10 p.m., 8 p.m., and 7 a.m. respectively.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3257

If anything, VoWG is more of an endurance test, to see if you can maintain perfect focus, the ability to read the oncoming waves consistently, and a bit of BS dodging every now and then. (see: replay)

Which I would like to say, that there were 2 instances in that run for VoWG where I thought I would lose it.

Also, Recollection "Terrifying Hypnotism" at Lunatic isn't that bad, albeit it being completely different from the other modes.

DDBB DBDB BSBS at Lunatic. The butterflies themselves move too fast for me to read oncoming waves; I find myself focused on my own hitbox instead to attempt dodging current waves.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 14, 2009, 09:36:59 PM
I just had the opportunity to play LLS lunatic without any lag (school computer).

SO AWESOME! I captured Kurumi's second phase at max rank. Since you probably don't know, Kurumi's second phase at max rank is about as BS as Mystia's second non-spell card on lunatic. Through incredible luck, I got through all of stage 3 without dying (even capturing the blue spam of doom), and I only started losing lives at the BS midboss. It went downhill from there, but I still won 0/1, and most importantly...

I GOT THROUGH A WAVE OF YUKA'S FINAL ATTACK!

It was exploding, yes, but it still could have hit me, and I fit through a pixel-wide gap. THAT WAS SO COOL!

Oh, and to prove that slowdown doesn't affect me, I went through LLS extra. One death on the stage, I survived the random spam after the orb, perfected Mugetu, and only 2 deaths on Gengetu, having me clear 5/0 with no lag to give an excuse.

TILDE~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 14, 2009, 09:41:15 PM
Story that just simply overshadows mine  ;_;
I can vouch for Kurumi's 2nd phase, even at Hard Mode.

And maybe I should get working on LLS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 14, 2009, 10:09:38 PM
Half accomplishment half hey-have-you-seen-this-yet...

Mystical Chain trial lunatic clear -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6NRHcd4ysQ&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6NRHcd4ysQ&fmt=22)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 15, 2009, 02:57:25 AM
OH CRAP AWESOME

First recent try on PCB Lunatic, I capture Hell God Sword. That was great.

Also beat Lunatic with uh 3 continues. Bleh.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 15, 2009, 03:06:49 AM
...capture Hell God Sword...

Wooooooooow :o
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 15, 2009, 03:51:41 AM
First recent try on PCB Lunatic, I capture Hell God Sword. That was great.
Awesome.  I absolutely HATE that card.  I've gotten through a couple waves, but never actually capped the damn thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 15, 2009, 09:34:34 AM
I captured it once, and since then I just bomb it.

The most annoying part of the Youmu fight for me is Asura Sword L. I've captured it twice, but it's too much info for my brain to handle most of the time. Sticking the bottom helps, but it ends up being one of those cards where you have to watch the entire screen (a bit like Ran-2 in StB) or you get trapped.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 15, 2009, 11:51:43 AM
DDBB / DBDB BSBS Lunatic timeout with one death.

Then... it crashed as I hit the save replay button ;_;

The card itself isn't that much of a step higher from Hard Mode. There's an extra calculation I have to do, and alter my play style a bit, but that's really it.

Still, on a few of my attempts, it formed an infamous thing you can call... "4-directional walling". Solid walls of 2-3 bullets from each of the NE, SE, SW, NW. I was even in the ideal position.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 15, 2009, 03:14:41 PM
I captured Nitoris first spell on Lunatic. It really came as a surprise to me. I thought that card would be hard as hell but as it came out i ended up finding it quite trivial. Especially if it indeed is static.

Also. I did some VoWG grinding today. I gave it five attempts and i failed all of them but at least i realized that Source of Rains isn't that hard at all.

I also did some playing on Normal mode in EoSD. I had some spells of Patchouli's to capture. I had heard from my friend that Princess Undine was bullshit but it's not that bad really. Not on Normal that is! Just grazing some lasers slowly streaming the the side then dodge some bullets. I didn't understand the concept of the card at first so it took me two tries to beat it.

Oh and i'm starting to pick up some way to deal with Nitoris mid-boss spell. Maybe its not as bad as i thought. We'll see about it later.

Thats all i've got for now. I'm of to play some Godfather II. A game which difficulty is quite the opposite of Touhou. Still pretty enjoyable though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 15, 2009, 04:15:10 PM
...
...

Recollection "Flying Insect's Nest". How the hell did I capture it on my 4th attempt? (Lunatic).

Oh crap, 2 a.m.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 15, 2009, 09:27:04 PM
...
...

Recollection "Flying Insect's Nest". How the hell did I capture it on my 4th attempt? (Lunatic).

Oh crap, 2 a.m.

Here is the answer. You handled the card well and avoided to get hit.

Here is one accomplishment of my own. I capped "the guests" at Lunatic. Awesome. Oh and that "Secretly Inherited Art of Danmaku" a couple times too in the process but thats card and the non-spell before it is pretty trivial anyway.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 15, 2009, 09:37:18 PM
I captured Catwalk!  First attempt of the stage today and I got it!  Hooray!

Next run, I captured Ghost Wheels!  With 3.00 power!  I kept misreading the wheels and getting driven out from under her, so the attack lasted a lot longer than it should have.  Still, Hooray!

I also tried a few pacifist Utsuho runs, just to help get the hang of her attacks better (I might attempt pacifist Orin later if I'm feeling masochistic enough).  The best I've done so far is one death to Nuclear Reaction, her 2nd/4th nonspells, and Hell's Tokamak, and two deaths to Peta Flare (guh, random card is random).  Subterranean Sun is also pretty intense when timed out.  ZUN should have had that be the entire duration of the card instead of just a bonus timeout thing.  Maybe then it would have been a legitimately difficult final spell.

Still no DBDB capture... :'(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 15, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
I also did some playing on Normal mode in EoSD. I had some spells of Patchouli's to capture. I had heard from my friend that Princess Undine was bullshit but it's not that bad really. Not on Normal that is! Just grazing some lasers slowly streaming the the side then dodge some bullets. I didn't understand the concept of the card at first so it took me two tries to beat it.
Because Patchy randomly swerves to the side during some waves, the bubbles pretty much completely wall you off, then you can't get back over to Patchy because the lasers prevent you from moving again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 16, 2009, 06:59:39 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3273

Okay, so how did I 1cc EoSD lunatic on THIS run? This run didn't deserve to have me 1cc it...but what do you know?

If nothing else, watch stage 6 for my performance on Eternal Meek. I know I should have been really angry for dying at the same time as it, but I just laughed. I guess my Scarlet Gensokyo performance was pretty good too, considering I went into it 0/1.

EDIT: Oh, also watch it for my victory dance. Every good lunatic 1cc needs a victory dance, and I showed how much I appreciated my clear by banging Marisa's head into the wall repeatedly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 16, 2009, 02:13:12 PM
Because Patchy randomly swerves to the side during some waves, the bubbles pretty much completely wall you off, then you can't get back over to Patchy because the lasers prevent you from moving again.

On Normal mode? Well i haven't played it much as i'm usually playing ReimuA. Sometimes her movements makes the bullets much harder to manage but i haven't been presented with anything impossible on the Normal version yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 16, 2009, 05:35:58 PM
Oh. Normal Mode version is loleasy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 16, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
I just captured Killing Doll at max rank. Hooray!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 17, 2009, 04:50:30 AM
Actually, I think it was a little below max rank. >_< Ah well, a capture of that card is still impressive.

Anyway, I just beat IN lunatic stage 4a with no deaths. No replay since my 4b one had a more impressive feat, but I did capture 3 of Reimu's spell cards. I would have captured Double Duplex Barrier, but I got spooked and bombed before it fully registered that I was somehow in between both the red bullets AND the grey bullets without getting hit. Hooray for border team hax. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 17, 2009, 07:51:07 AM
Oh. Normal Mode version is loleasy.

Yep. No challenge whatsoever. On the topic of EoSD i saw that i hadn't cleared Normal mode as MarisaA so i went ahead an fixed that. Everything went pretty well except for Remi which was a catastrophe. I only captured Scarlet Shot. During that run i also managed to capture all of Patchouli's spellcards so i'm done with the spells of EoSD Normal now. Then again, nothing Patchy have on Normal is any kind of threat. If any, it would be those fireball things. Now its time for Hard mode.


And in Mountain of Faith i was playing around with the superior Miko and i managed to capture her 2nd spellcard two times. It should have been three but i got hit at the last split-second of the third time because i got careless. That card just seem to be easier and easier for everytime i try it. Maybe i should try timing it out. First, though i have to figure out a way to manage "the guests".

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 17, 2009, 08:03:09 PM
FINALLY beat SA extra with Marisa A. It took me 53 or so attempts, repeatedly dying to clipdeaths OVER and OVER and OVER again.

I had a replay of me dying between attacks (to the extent where I got the star-item for the barrage and was able to get the spellcard bonus as well), but I overwrote it by accident. Deaths like that are the reason I prefer 6,7 and 8 to 10 and 11.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 17, 2009, 08:22:10 PM
FINALLY beat SA extra with Marisa A. It took me 53 or so attempts, repeatedly dying to clipdeaths OVER and OVER and OVER again.

I had a replay of me dying between attacks (to the extent where I got the star-item for the barrage and was able to get the spellcard bonus as well), but I overwrote it by accident. Deaths like that are the reason I prefer 6,7 and 8 to 10 and 11.

That happened to me once against Yukari in PCB. It was the closest I ever got to losing my perfect history against Yukari's Spiriting Away.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 17, 2009, 08:54:34 PM
SA Lunatic 1cc!!! (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3295)  Second serious 1cc attempt ever, and I got it!  Hooray!

This run was a horrible sloppy mess, just like all SA first 1ccs should be!  I entered stage 5 with six extra lives and exited stage 6 with none at all.  Highlights include: 
-Forgetting to shoot during Yuugi's second boss nonspell and getting a laser spawned on top of me. 
-Accidentally timing out Orin's midboss opener in stage 5 and facing the pelletspam of death in all it's unsuppressed fury(as well as missing three star pieces). 
-Dying twice with three bombs in stock to Subterranean Sun.

Three Lunatics down (four counting SG), nine to go.  :V  Still no DBDB capture... :'(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 17, 2009, 08:56:26 PM
For the first time ever I survived both waves of the fairy bs on stage 3 MoF lunatic with pacifist. The one in the beginning and the one right before the midboss. That means a perfect pacifist run on this stage is possible.

Gonna work on that now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 17, 2009, 09:08:59 PM
o/
Just captured hanged hourai dolls twice in a row.
I'm also slowly getting better at stage 3 PCB L in general - though I still have to bomb far too much.
Alice is just so hard. Bullets going in all sorts of crazy directions.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on May 19, 2009, 04:50:51 AM
Not technically Touhou in the strictest sense, but I've been playing MegaMari a lot recently due to being inspired into making a Let's Play series of it.  I've started it up with Part 1 on YouTube and, although beating Cirno's stage isn't much of an accomplishment, the series as a whole should be an accomplishment in the making, as I plan on defeating most bosses without weakness exploitation and hope to complete the video series with no deaths (although Patchy's fortress may prove difficult, since it's a one-sitting deal).

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hgt09nTC1Q&fmt=18
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LtC on May 19, 2009, 11:59:01 AM
I've often wondered myself what kind of setup the really good touhou players play with, but was never actually able to find any videos of it. So here's mine; maybe some people find it interesting.
I know there are a lot of really good experienced keyboard players who swap their arrow keys to left hand (AWSD mainly) so it's easier for them to swap to playing with pad or a stick when keyboard isn't available.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 19, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
I know there are a lot of really good experienced keyboard players who swap their arrow keys to left hand (AWSD mainly) so it's easier for them to swap to playing with pad or a stick when keyboard isn't available.

I play with both pad and keyboard. Not only for Touhou but for fighting games as well (KoF, IaMP...). Right directionals all the way although I use IJKL instead if the arrow keys. Makes not much difference when you're getting a pad. Just positioning your hands and holding it makes your brain "switch modes" so there's no way you're confusing it
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 19, 2009, 12:53:12 PM
What.

BSBS at Lunatic capture at 2 power. However, I did use the "bomb" cheat to null the first wave (read: 3 power, bombed to 2). Which actually makes it longer, because the difference in power between 2 and 3 is quite major. Wow my fingers twitched a lot.

In the same run, I game over'd on BoWaP (because I can't deal with fast, scattered bullets such as Kanako's opener). That's losing multiple lives  >_>

Still researching more on BSBS theory. Looks like Flying Insect's Nest has some BS factor as well, from what I've tested. But the difference is that Flying Insect's Nest is just simply more fun to play.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl20.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=106&u=12803292)

My history only looks crap(per) because of clipdeath. And the abomination of the replay can be found... on my PC.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LtC on May 19, 2009, 01:04:01 PM
I play with both pad and keyboard. Not only for Touhou but for fighting games as well (KoF, IaMP...). Right directionals all the way although I use IJKL instead if the arrow keys. Makes not much difference when you're getting a pad. Just positioning your hands and holding it makes your brain "switch modes" so there's no way you're confusing it
Yeah I don't have any trouble with switching to playing with a gamepad either (I just use the default arrow keys), though I still prefer keyboard over gamepad anyday (Even though I know gamepads are superior to keyboards since you aren't able to press up>down instantly like left>right).
You only use your thumb for gamepad directionals. Swapping to playing with an arcade stick is a completely different story though, it's like suddenly trying to write with my left hand. It doesn't matter as much for fighting games though since the accuracy of movement required for them is quite different.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 19, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
With an arcade stick every hadouken is a bloody victory for me. That's how bad I am with those. But I can do pretty much everything in the keyboard and many times better than with a gamepad. I'd say they're more adequate for some games(particularly adventure games) but by no means inherently superior.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ghost333 on May 19, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
i am very used to arcade sticks . experience with Guilty gear /tekken/SC4/MB /SF/ and a lot others.
the pad on the other hand gives me an odd feeling.
keyboard is my choice.

and speaking for accomplicemnts today i reached Hourai with youmu solo on IN lunatic
just to get raped....
damn,...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 19, 2009, 04:32:43 PM
I have captured Cat's Walk [Hard] twice. I don't know how the hell i manage though. The capture rate is 2/40 but the first cap came at 30 and the second at 38 so i guess i'm getting somewhere.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 19, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
MOTHERFUCKIN DBDB CAPTURE!  I was going to yell at Baity for daring to capture my arch-nemesis card before I did, but then I tried the stage once and got it on my first try.  So nvm Baity, you're still cool.  It took 98 tries, which means this card is officially harder than VoWG, Resurrection Butterfly, and Scarlet Meister.  :P

Also timed out Nuclear Reaction and Utsuho's 2nd/4th nonspells without dying.  Peta Flare, Tokamak, and Subterranean Sun still elude me though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 19, 2009, 06:54:30 PM
This was a couple days ago, but I think I may be gradually figuring out Apollo 13...maybe...sorta. I still have no freaking idea how to do the first wave, but the second one's easy for some reason. I know it more or less follows the same pattern every time, so can someone who knows how to move tell me the best opening?

Also, I got a sufficient score in 5-1 this time. After I saw what my score actually was, I deserved not getting the message (it was 97000 somehow)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 19, 2009, 08:54:17 PM
This was a couple days ago, but I think I may be gradually figuring out Apollo 13...maybe...sorta. I still have no freaking idea how to do the first wave, but the second one's easy for some reason. I know it more or less follows the same pattern every time, so can someone who knows how to move tell me the best opening?
Hmm... scrap my theory about pseudo-static for now. It feels uncertain every time the wave slightly alters. Especially when I don't even move.

Certainly looks pseudo-static (at the start...), but I feel a random factor coming in. Investigating this further...

Best way to deal with the opening at this point? Move to one of the sides and about 1/3 up the screen, and dodge while sliding down. Or just corner-dodge. You don't have to worry about bullets coming from diagonal directions as much, more above and to your side. I have a success rate of clearing the first wave at ~40% when I'm not screwing around with the card.

If you're really feeling professional, I would attempt to read the waves, and look where the bullets overlap in certain areas.

EDIT: the BSBS capture http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3307
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on May 19, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
Yeah - there is that random rotation factor when Eirin spawns the bullets (test - run up to the bullets, and note where the closest one is.  Sometimes it's in your face, sometimes it's to the left/right).  However, the movement is always static - the bullets move and rotate a certain distance.  That's what makes it annoying.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 19, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
If I'm right, it should be:

Red: aimed at your location, in relation to Eirin's (...)
Blue: randomized rotating bullets

EDIT: I believe to have finished DBDB analysis. Still BS to a degree, but also quite difficult in base. Will do test runs once I get back from lectures today (3 hours today, yay!)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ghost333 on May 19, 2009, 11:23:36 PM
usually i hunt her down for more damage and try to read the waves. replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3310)
now if u want to time out the attack ....i could only withstand 4 waves at max(didn save replay sry)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 19, 2009, 11:27:33 PM
I unlocked stage 5 and 6 of SA Hard. I am now one step closer to 1ccing SA Hard now. And all the PC hard Modes. =3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 20, 2009, 02:18:39 AM
I unlocked stage 5 and 6 of SA Hard. I am now one step closer to 1ccing SA Hard now. And all the PC hard Modes. =3
That reminds me. Maybe I should really get around to finishing off MoF, EoSD and SA Hard.

If I'm pulling off stunts at Lunatic with relative ease, I'm quite sure I can make sub-par 1cc's at Hard.

...lemme work on finishing off BSBS DBDB testing, and final analysis and testing (again). But! Food first.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 20, 2009, 02:20:46 AM
I wish more people would do your kind of work Baity. I do so many spell cards without knowing how they really work. Granted, I'm an idiot considering how long it took me to see how Q.E.D's ripples reflect off the three walls, but still.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 20, 2009, 02:49:50 AM
I wish more people would do your kind of work Baity. I do so many spell cards without knowing how they really work. Granted, I'm an idiot considering how long it took me to see how Q.E.D's ripples reflect off the three walls, but still.
I spend 2 hours all up (at max, min is about 30 mins) to do each card. Add another 10 minutes or so for each difficulty. Sometimes, all I get out of analyzing is... something inconclusive / already known though. Should keep looking at these "BS" cards to see if they're truly BS. And ones that do strange things.

Also, don't ask about working out Q.E.D. Quod Erat Demonstrandum's last phase. It's just... blah.

Test run: DBDB 2nd capture. It's quite a... straightforward card. Wall hugging trivializes the card (to a certain degree), much like Apollo 13.

EDIT: fixes

EDIT 2: hmm... might have to touch up on some parts.

EDIT 3: Ok, done with full analysis. Here's an interesting thought though; I find DBDB harder on Hard than Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 20, 2009, 12:56:26 PM
Haven't been playing for a while, booted up the game earlier today....

Phantom of the Grand Guignol timeout  ;D somewhere around 120 tries total, I'm not quite sure what my record was going in.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ghost333 on May 20, 2009, 01:53:44 PM
oh yea i just owned MINDBLOW lunatic very bad for the tutorial thread :)
i dont think i will ever have problem with this spell again...
replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3318)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 20, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
Biweekly opportunity to get on a school computer today. First, I did MS extra again. Nothing really great, but I did capture Alice's last phase. With Yuka. The slowest character against possibly the fastest non-timeout attack ever.

And then I showed off to my friend again. Today I was showing him how you're supposed to do EoSD stage 4 (he really sucks at it). Other than a fairy ramming me during the laser section it went well, and I beat the last part without bombing. Mostly the only real accomplishment was capturing Emerald Megalith though. :O Doing something like that while showing off is a great feeling, although he doesn't think Emerald Megalith is that hard since he plays easy mode. X_X
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 20, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
Doing something like that while showing off is a great feeling, although he doesn't think Emerald Megalith is that hard since he plays easy mode. X_X

Playing Emerald Megalith on easy makes it Emerald Minorlith.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 20, 2009, 11:41:29 PM
Oh, this is definitely interesting.

Will write a close-to-complete analysis of DBDB / BSBS when I get back.

What has ZUN been thinking... >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LiteYear on May 21, 2009, 05:15:56 AM
Although it's from a touhou fan game, I think this speaks for itself:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/LiteYear/100SSPictureCropped.png)

My replay on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfFY4mJYNH4)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 21, 2009, 05:20:44 AM
Got a replay file?

I'm on limited bandwidth.

From what I can see, you just did a perfect 7-2-2.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LiteYear on May 21, 2009, 05:27:07 AM
Yes, I have the replay.  Give me a couple of minutes to upload it.

*Edit: Finally, MediaFire cooperates.  Here is the replay file: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n232mxymznj
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kilgamayan on May 21, 2009, 05:40:56 AM
I guess I'm not the best Western SMW player anymore.

I wonder if I'll even bother finishing the LP now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 21, 2009, 05:44:19 AM
Shouldn't this just make it more possible for you? It's not as though everyone gave up on EoSD lunatic because Kefit did it first or whatever example you'd like.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 21, 2009, 05:47:13 AM
...which reminds me.

I've still yet to finish 7-2-2. That 4th wave is... ...  >_>

EDIT: writing up DBDB analysis.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kilgamayan on May 21, 2009, 05:49:44 AM
Shouldn't this just make it more possible for you? It's not as though everyone gave up on EoSD lunatic because Kefit did it first or whatever example you'd like.

It's not me doing it at this point, though. It's just me following instructions, which any schmoe can do.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 21, 2009, 08:13:55 AM
It's not me doing it at this point, though. It's just me following instructions, which any schmoe can do.
Yeah, but your playing skill is still one of the best around. Kind of like going for Touhou at Lunatic. It's pointless knowing all the "theory" if you don't have the skills to execute.

Either way. It's time. Incoming wall of text. This is what my theorizing does.

---

想起「二重黒死蝶」 / Recollection "Double Black Death Butterfly"

This covers especially Hard / Lunatic. Normal to a certain degree.

Replay containing awesomeness of a 0 power capture of said Spell Card. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3331) [its essentially a timeout too, and awesomeness is a word?; spell-checker didn't pick it up as an error]

Analysis: (ignore if you wish, and skip towards "Result and Conclusion" for a summary of what to do)

Satori will release a pseudo-random set of butterfly bullets. This should be ~100 at Normal, and ~150 at Hard / Lunatic. At Lunatic, the bullets have a tendency to land off-screen, which actually makes the Spell Card easier... somewhat. Faster bullets move further after all, in a constant time frame.

The bullets shot will spread out in 8 directions. Since ZUN is lazy The same spread of shots is shot in each of the 8 directions. In other words, of the full circle, only a sector worth 45 degrees is unique, with the other 315 degrees being a copy of the original. i.e. It really doesn't matter where you stand; you'll end up getting the same waves. Unless you want to shift around for the 22.5 degree difference. The only notable difference is the overall direction of the bullets in relation to your position.

The inner- and outer- bullets will be preset, and don't spawn at random locations like the inter- bullets. These bullets form perfect circles (or octagons) around the casting point. The median bullets appear to be preset as well.

The rotation of the said bullets varies by difficulty. There appears to be no difference between Normal and Hard, but the Lunatic bullets rotate around by an extra 30-40 degrees or so. Red bullets move anti-clockwise, and blue move clockwise.

Bullets move at about the same speed for Normal and Hard. Bullets at Lunatic move at a much greater speed, but not that fast as absolute speed.

In short, the phases for each set are spread, stop, rotate. Both stop and rotate are marked with a jingle I believe.

Result(s) and Conclusion:

For Normal and Hard, avoid the bottom of the screen. It is a deathtrap if you linger there 80% of the time. Stay centered if you wish to end the Spell Card quickly, or finding yourself able to read and dodge bullets incoming from 2 sides. Alternatively, you can move slightly to the left or the right during each wave, and "flow" with the direction of one of the waves. This makes the Spell Card easier, but takes longer to capture, even to the point of timeout if you're not careful. Either way, repeat until it's over.

For Lunatic... it is essentially the same thing. Except the bottom of the screen is a lot safer. Read the set, move to the appropriate position, micro-dodge, repeat. Just make sure you have a high awareness of your surroundings (bullets move faster and swing a greater degree). Alternatively, you may want to move with the "flow" of one of the waves, much like above. However, you will need to multitask both reading the sets of waves, and micro-dodge, due to the nature related to difficulty.

Here's a recommended field of awareness from the replay above:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl21.jpg) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=107&u=12803292)
Compromise the field in accordance to your skill though. Wouldn't want you to clip bullets.

For moving with the "flow" of one the waves, you really only need to focus on one color of bullets. Go with whatever one suits you. By moving with the "flow", I am referring to moving in 1 direction (in this case left-right or vice-versa).

To trivialize the Spell Card by a certain degree, you can wall-hug, so that about 1/3 of the bullets fly off-screen.

Generally, you want to be able to move precisely while focused, and predict the movement of bullets.

1. Hard Spell Card? Yes. But still not the hardest.
2. Is it that BS? No, Eternal Meek does worse things. It's shorter though. Oh, and the spread isn't BS; you just don't read it fast enough.
3. Any way to "cheat"? Sure. Bomb right at the start. It will negate the first wave. Alternatively, die right at the start (by being over Satori).

Remarks:

-Hard's version is more difficult than Lunatic, in my opinion.
-of the 26 attempts (2 were used to unlock Practice Mode), 3 were captures. 2 were timeouts, each with 1 death each. Many of these were actually also me just screwing around with the Spell Card, working it out (~13). This was on Lunatic.
-donut had the right idea on how to do this initially... if I recall.

---

Now looking for another Spell Card to analyze.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 21, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1962/eternalmeek.jpg)

Eternal Meek!
Awww yeeeaaah.
No lucky dodges! Well... I managed to read everything, but there were still some dodges that I would probably have failed if I tried again. Highest rank possible in practice mode, too.

My only proof that it is Lunatic is the number of points I'm getting from the point items.

Edit: Reimu A, btw.

Edit2: Lol:
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3341/eternalmeek2.jpg)

It was lower rank though, as I had just died (and then bombed for the items) on the 20 rings just before Sakuya. I was still moving when the first set fired :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 21, 2009, 06:42:47 PM
I'm a noob so my accomplishment is pretty lame, but I'm pretty proud I can finally consistently beat EoSD's level 3 mid-boss' beautiful flower spellcard (or whatever its called).

I still suck at colorful rain and tsunami though, which is a pain in the neck because I beat those two without bombs on my very first try thinking "wow this is easy, is this a joke?". now for the life of me I can't do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 21, 2009, 07:54:47 PM
I'm a noob so my accomplishment is pretty lame, but I'm pretty proud I can finally consistently beat EoSD's level 3 mid-boss' beautiful flower spellcard (or whatever its called).

I still suck at colorful rain and tsunami though, which is a pain in the neck because I beat those two without bombs on my very first try thinking "wow this is easy, is this a joke?". now for the life of me I can't do it.

Colorful Rain - This spellcard can be tricky if you are new to these games. You are supposed to look at the bullets right as they spawn. With a little bit of training you should be able to read their trajectory. Doing that will make them appear less random and you will easier be able to handle a spellcard or a non-spell for that matter. I understand that you are a new-born Touhou player (and on that occasion, may i congratulate you. Welcome to the best game series ever made.) so you might not understand a lot of the different techniques the good Touhou players use constantly sometimes maybe even without thinking about it.

One thing is pre-reading enemy attacks. The art of looking at bullets and determining where they are headed and how fast they are headed there. This technique is mandatory and its just what you need for Colorful Rain. When you are dealing with the art of reading you will most of the time focus on the top of the screen rather than the bottom of it as most infant players tend to do.

Its actually quite hard to explain but maybe i have done it well enough and maybe you know this already. (Although i didn't. Really, it took me forever to get anywhere in Touhou. It still does actually.)

As for Tsunami... i don't have a clue what you are talking about. I don't recall there being a spell called Tsunami. If you are referring to Hongs final spellcard then there isn't much offer to give. You will need your reading again but also some good dodging skills. There is a certain level of bullshit to this one. Sometimes it goes easy on you and other times it will kick your ass. Its probably due to that hell-spawned ranking system. You are familiar with shmups so i'm guessing you know what a rank-system is. If not, just ask.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 22, 2009, 12:08:34 AM
Colorful Rain - This spellcard can be tricky if you are new to these games. You are supposed to look at the bullets right as they spawn. With a little bit of training you should be able to read their trajectory. Doing that will make them appear less random and you will easier be able to handle a spellcard or a non-spell for that matter. I understand that you are a new-born Touhou player (and on that occasion, may i congratulate you. Welcome to the best game series ever made.) so you might not understand a lot of the different techniques the good Touhou players use constantly sometimes maybe even without thinking about it.

One thing is pre-reading enemy attacks. The art of looking at bullets and determining where they are headed and how fast they are headed there. This technique is mandatory and its just what you need for Colorful Rain. When you are dealing with the art of reading you will most of the time focus on the top of the screen rather than the bottom of it as most infant players tend to do.

Its actually quite hard to explain but maybe i have done it well enough and maybe you know this already. (Although i didn't. Really, it took me forever to get anywhere in Touhou. It still does actually.)

As for Tsunami... i don't have a clue what you are talking about. I don't recall there being a spell called Tsunami. If you are referring to Hongs final spellcard then there isn't much offer to give. You will need your reading again but also some good dodging skills. There is a certain level of bullshit to this one. Sometimes it goes easy on you and other times it will kick your ass. Its probably due to that hell-spawned ranking system. You are familiar with shmups so i'm guessing you know what a rank-system is. If not, just ask.

Actually I'm fairly new to shmups in general. I've only really played gradius and r-type which aren't very challenging compared to this, nor do they play the same way.

I understand what you're saying with colorful rain, what screws me are I THINK it's always the yellow and orange bullets that get me, they seem to curve mid-trajectory, and they goof me up. However I discovered that they aren't as annoying if you play like a noob (or at least when I was a noob) and hug the bottom middle of the screen like you're too scared to go forward, they typically curve out of the way by that point.

But anyway, down with my accomplishment, I just 1cc'd normal just now wooot. I was doing really good, got to the level 4 boss without losing any lives, though I think I had no bombs (maybe I had 1, I forget). I think I only died once on her, which is pretty good for me, I killed the damn maid boss' corpse clock and marionette without a bomb! I was just owning. After the maid boss though I was so excited that I was doing so good that my skill went to hell, my hands were shaking, I couldn't hit the broad side of a castle if I wanted to cuz I was just so pumped.. so I pretty much bomb spammed my way to victory with my last 5 lives on the final level. I ended up just barely killing the final boss with my last life and no bombs. I wanna play more but I really can't..hands...shaking.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 22, 2009, 01:23:01 AM
Congratz Ghaleon :P
I hope you saved the replay so that - in the future - you can watch your past self play, and be satisfied.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 22, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
But anyway, down with my accomplishment, I just 1cc'd normal just now wooot.
Aw, hell.  Not another one of these absurdly good people who can 1cc a game inside a week.  I bet he turns out to be another Kefit in a couple years.

I mean, um, congrats!  Seriously!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on May 22, 2009, 02:37:54 AM
Default lives or max lives? I might feel a bit less depressed if you used max lives. Not that I could do it either way.

And fuck you if you had set it to 1 life  :P.

I really should just play the damn game myself. Playing once a week won't take me very far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 22, 2009, 02:44:11 AM
A new Kefit? Nah, beating it in one week means we have a new Donut on our hands.

Oh god that's even worse. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 22, 2009, 02:59:37 AM
Oh god that's even worse. D:
No it isn't... is it?  ;_;

DBDB is trivial now. Now if I can just do the stage perfectly, it would be a perfect run...  >_>

Damn clips.

Oh, and Mokou's "Rings of Death"? 1 bomb again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 22, 2009, 03:02:50 AM
I intend to beat the series on lunatic but I'm not much of a score grinder in any game so I'll doubt I'll ever be that good.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Darkblizer on May 22, 2009, 03:55:03 AM
woo, 1cc'd PCB. This is starting to become easier :D

this was actually after I played touhous 1-5 and become REALLY bored. Seriously, most
of those games are boring, except 1 and 3 were kinda fun (HRtP and PoDD)

I'm considering remaking those games to be more like the windows games, but that's
on the backburner.

Oh, here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3337 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3337)

And here's the replay for my EoSD 1cc: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3338 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3338)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 22, 2009, 04:24:58 AM
this was actually after I played touhous 1-5 and become REALLY bored. Seriously, most
of those games are boring, except 1 and 3 were kinda fun (HRtP and PoDD)

I'm considering remaking those games to be more like the windows games, but that's
on the backburner.

inb4donutrage.  Also you actually liked HRtP and PoDD more than LLS and MS?  That is quite a unique opinion you have there.

Speaking of pre-windows games, I just cleared Shuusou Gyoku's extra stage for the second time ever.  Whee!  After getting my first clear about a month and a half ago, I was sure that some curse had befallen me that prevented me from clearing it ever again.  But I did it, once again with two bombs in stock, strangely enough. 

I also figured out a possible strategy to 'capture' Reimu's second phase.  As in the yellow-bullet/yin yang phase that used to give me so much hell. I actually kind of laughed when I finally figured out the trick.  It turns out those horrific yellow bullets are in fact aimed away from you.  lawl.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 22, 2009, 04:51:31 AM
About a month ago I got the silly idea to get an NDNB timeout of VoWG.

Some ~300 attempts later, I have 10 1-death timeouts, countless 2 and 3 death timeouts and still no NDNB timeout. Moreover this is getting to tedious levels so I'm going to shelve this for now and get back to it later.

In the meantime, here's (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3308) a random 1-death timeout of VoWG.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 22, 2009, 06:48:17 AM
Well after doing my first 1 cc run on normal earlier today, I decided to try reimu instead of Marissa now. Boy is she much better imo. I ended with 3 lives (2 stars left means 3 lives right?). prob could have ended with 4 or 5 but I had so many I decided to not bomb certain attacks that I probably should have in hopes of mastering them for future attempts better... Along with some deaths caused by me not memorizing each attack and catching me off guard.

I totally sucked at the 2 attacks I aced on my first 1cc run though, go figure.
Anyway I uploaded the replay this time since I feel like I did so much better on this run:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3339
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 22, 2009, 07:12:13 AM
1cc tHRtP Easy.

Damn I feel good. Even though I bomb spammed the 2nd form of Sariel.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/super_10.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=108&u=12803292)
EDIT: that isn't even my hi-score lololololol. That's 3rd.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on May 22, 2009, 08:23:47 AM
Finally completed that 1cc easy run on PCB. Also, finally captured Repository of Hirokawa, which leaves me with only two easy spellcards to capture: Sumizome Perfect Blossom, and Resurrection Butterfly 10%.

On other news, How the hell I'm supposed to get thru those two without bombing the hell out of them?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on May 22, 2009, 09:20:37 AM
I'd say "Don't get hit".. But they are two difficult spellcards. Go play some normal. When you're more used to those versions of those, the easy ones will look trivial. The only hint I can give, I guess is that I find it easier to dodge the red waves of resurrection butterfly near the breaking point where they stretch and criss-cross. It's tense and unforgiving but that's where I get my best results (came down to already getting through -30% using only one bomb sometimes)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LiteYear on May 22, 2009, 09:38:43 AM
It's not me doing it at this point, though. It's just me following instructions, which any schmoe can do.

I would disagree.  For me, the first part of that battle is hell.  It took me nearly four hours to get a chance at the danmaku field after knowing what I needed to do to clear it.  I also agree with BaitySM in that even if you know the strategies, that's different from executing them in play (especially when it's your first chance in hours).  The ones I posted were the ones that worked for me, and I would say that only the 1st and 4th waves are made trivial by them.  Even in that run, I screwed up a wave that I anticipated to dodge (and I was lucky I had a hit to give).  So, I disagree with your statement above, because in my opinion, even if you learned the strategies from somewhere else, it is still an incredibly tough feat to pull off, and it should not be lessened in any way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 22, 2009, 10:22:48 AM
Watched through the replay.

The positions you used to get through the waves... very interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 22, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: Darkblizer
this was actually after I played touhous 1-5 and become REALLY bored. Seriously, most
of those games are boring, except 1 and 3 were kinda fun (HRtP and PoDD)

That is worse than most of my opinions! How are HRtP and PoDD more fun than LLS or MS?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 22, 2009, 03:52:06 PM
I keep capturing Eternal Meek Lunatic o_o
Maybe I was just going about it the wrong way before...?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 22, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
I haven't captured Eternal Meek in months. :( There's really no "right" way to do it, because it's 100% random.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 22, 2009, 08:25:34 PM
Level 8 unlocked in StB. :)

Finally, Retrospective Kyoto. I was getting tired of Black Eyes and Sleepless Night.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 22, 2009, 09:35:38 PM
YES!!!!!!  ;D ;D

I beat my first extra stage. :D

It was Ran. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 22, 2009, 10:45:13 PM
Level 8 unlocked in StB. :)

Finally, Retrospective Kyoto. I was getting tired of Black Eyes and Sleepless Night.

You will get VERY tired of Retrospective Kyoto. I hate the song because of how much you have to listen to it on the hardest scenes in the game.

BTW, I have 6 scenes left in StB. 10-3, 10-5, 10-6 OH GOD BULLSHIT sorry, I blacked out...EX-1, EX-2, and EX-7.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 23, 2009, 05:35:04 AM
Man it took me forever to unlock that EX-stage in StB.

A ton of those cards are really annoying, especially the ones where you absolutely have to clear off bullets with your camera. Seriously, they're annoying and stupid.

8-4 (so close on this one ;_;), 8-5, 9-1, 9-2, and 9-6 are the only ones in the first 9 stages I haven't gotten yet. Most all of the cards in 10 and EX are bs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 23, 2009, 10:11:51 AM
2cc tHRtP Normal.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl37.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=109&u=12803292)

Those turrets really destroy scoring. First try on Normal by the way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 23, 2009, 02:31:42 PM
Just did a no-bombs practice run of EoSD stage 6 Hard, and my only death was on eternal meek. So I had a perfect Remilia fight!
Pity it wasn't Lunatic =D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 23, 2009, 07:03:30 PM
Decided to see if I could do a no-focus clear of IN Extra and got it on my fourth attempt, rofl. Replay's pretty terrible though (I only cap 3 cards - really should have been 5, I fail Woo pretty stupidly and die to Hourai Doll when it had a sliver of healthbar left) so I don't really feel like uploading it.

NF IN Extra is fun though, I'll try to see if I can get a good NF clear of it now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: [K]KoaMeow on May 23, 2009, 09:22:54 PM
1cc, PCB, Reimu A with no trainers this time.

YAYA!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 24, 2009, 04:36:31 AM
I finally captured Eternal Meek again. :D I got this sick idea to look above me, and it worked!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Darkblizer on May 24, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
I finally captured Eternal Meek again. :D I got this sick idea to look above me, and it worked!

I'm pretty much constantly looking above my character by a bit. Only problem is I sometimes mess up and run into bullets ;>>

anyway, I 1cc'd MoF. This is the third game I've 1cc'd this week! I'm not sure if it's luck or my skill decided to leap.

Oh boy, next is going to be SA, which is so far one of the hardest windows touhou games (NOT including StB)

And here's the replay for MoF: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3360 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3360)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 24, 2009, 07:17:44 PM
That was sure easy. Timed out Hinas mid-boss card at Lunatic difficulty. I can't believe i considered that hard once.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 24, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
1cc'd IaMP Normal.

This is an achievement for me. :p
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 24, 2009, 08:49:09 PM
1cc'd SA Hard. Now onto Lunatic!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: R-9A2 Delta on May 24, 2009, 10:13:13 PM
I captured Honest Man's Death! Hooray!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 24, 2009, 10:52:21 PM
Perfect EoSD Lunatic stage 6 run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHyW6Gp6UE8&fmt=22).

This easily took over a thousand tries. It's so luck-based it's not even funny.

In the process, I finally managed to time out Scarlet Gensokyo without dying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOQfqaR5yQ&fmt=22) as well last week or so. Kind of anti-climatic, though. I got lucky and everything kept bending away from me, so I never really got very difficult waves or walls at all. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 25, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
SO CLOSE!

Game overed at Kanako's third noncard, which I NEVER die on.  But Yamato Torus or Heaven's Dragon would probably kill me anyway.  Still, I got to Stage 6 on Lunatic!  If I can clean up Stage 4/Aya a bit I can probably 1cc it!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 25, 2009, 01:18:35 AM
SO CLOSE!

Game overed at Kanako's third noncard, which I NEVER die on.  But Yamato Torus or Heaven's Dragon would probably kill me anyway.  Still, I got to Stage 6 on Lunatic!  If I can clean up Stage 4/Aya a bit I can probably 1cc it!
This just motivated me to try a Lunatic 1cc myself hehe.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 25, 2009, 02:50:55 AM
Managed to get said VoWG timeout recorded and uploaded onto youtube, it's viewable here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cI-l3x6vYw&fmt=22)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 25, 2009, 03:01:36 AM
Managed to get said VoWG timeout recorded and uploaded onto youtube, it's viewable here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cI-l3x6vYw&fmt=22)
Congrats.

...got a replay file?

EDIT: also, Perfect Stage 4 SA. Replay to come.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 25, 2009, 03:03:38 AM
Congrats.

...got a replay file?

EDIT: also, Perfect Stage 4 SA. Replay to come.
See earlier in this thread, or the comments in the youtube video. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 25, 2009, 03:30:36 AM
See earlier in this thread, or the comments in the youtube video. >_>
Ah, you're referring to *that* replay  >_>

I thought you pulled (yet) another one off.

I did find the death to be on the weird side, to be quite honest. Guess it's just one of those moments. Like many of my other moments  <_<

*internet randomly disconnects*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 25, 2009, 03:35:41 AM

*internet randomly disconnects*
Aside: this happened to you in mafia as well, so I must ask, what the fuck are you on, Tin Cans and String? Smoke signals? IP over Carrier Pigeon?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 25, 2009, 03:38:31 AM
University proxy server.

It does disconnect frequently, but only for short periods of time.

Also, I appear to be having trouble uploading... so the run will have to wait.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 25, 2009, 03:59:16 AM
Must really suck to have trouble uploading a file less than 20 kb
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on May 25, 2009, 04:45:41 AM
Perfect EoSD Lunatic stage 6 run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHyW6Gp6UE8&fmt=22).

This easily took over a thousand tries. It's so luck-based it's not even funny.

In the process, I finally managed to time out Scarlet Gensokyo without dying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOQfqaR5yQ&fmt=22) as well last week or so. Kind of anti-climatic, though. I got lucky and everything kept bending away from me, so I never really got very difficult waves or walls at all. :D

The fuck?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 25, 2009, 05:30:51 AM
I hear rumors that Phar's one of those "cheaters" like Riskbreaker23, but I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 25, 2009, 05:48:50 AM
Finally! Perfect Stage 4 Hard SA. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3366) (redid it for the sake of it; that makes 2)

...more BS than Lunatic's. DBDB is.... ... See:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/untitl22.jpg) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=110&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on May 25, 2009, 06:33:57 AM
I decided to try mapping Mt. Moon of Touhoumon HardMode because I'm completely insane.

Ten hours in (I hate that damn fog), I have almost finished drawing the first floor, and found the outer walls of the second floor.

My map of the second floor is completely screwed up though. It's divided in four parts because I ran out of space on my sheet, and the top-right and bottom-left parts are inverted. Also, the first floor is drawn between the top parts and the bottom parts of the second floor.

Also :

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/firestormiv/rumiagreen.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on May 25, 2009, 06:35:30 AM
I hear rumors that Phar's one of those "cheaters" like Riskbreaker23, but I don't know for sure.

anyone proof it the replay is real or not though? or is it so farfetched that it will just be a waste of time now?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 25, 2009, 07:16:35 AM
Didn't Phar record himself playing live? I doubt he gimmicked the video, but I wasn't paying close enough attention to be sure.

Also I just captured Peerless Wind God like 4 times in a row hahahaha 6/11 biatch. That is seriously one intense spell card. I find myself trying to read most of the bullets for trends and openings and my mind goes on overdrive. There were so many close calls... O___O
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 25, 2009, 07:25:33 AM
I just beat PCB stage 4 lunatic without dying. Given the obscene amount of extra lives translating into bombs, I realize this isn't especially interesting, but I also captured Ghost Clifford! ^_^ Now if I can only capture Pseudo Stradivarius I will have captured every lunatic spell card from EoSD through MoF!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 25, 2009, 10:14:40 AM
anyone proof it the replay is real or not though? or is it so farfetched that it will just be a waste of time now?

Wut? You can't save replays in EoSD practice; it was recorded in real-time. How could it possibly be TAS'ed?

Also, these accomplishments are hardly improbable. Just obsessively give it enough attempts and you'll manage it sooner or later.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Flay_wind on May 25, 2009, 11:59:37 AM
Was having fun (or rather sadomasochistic relationship) with IN spell practice and finally unlocked spell card 222. Also captured every spellcard in stages 1-5 (4 A&B). And captured 195 spellcards with Yuyuko solo.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 25, 2009, 05:02:51 PM
Now if I can only capture Pseudo Stradivarius I will have captured every lunatic spell card from EoSD through MoF!
what
the
hell
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 25, 2009, 06:22:46 PM
Blame it on me not playing PCB stage 4 much, rarely fighting anyone other than Lyrica, and not wanting to grind a 4 minute stage for a chance at something that shouldn't even be that hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: c l e a r on May 25, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
k, so I finally got my hands on PoFV and tried to 1cc with it on Normal.  After going at it of having absolutely no freaking idea on how bombs work, I still managed to make to Shiki just by "dodging danmaku" with her on her last life.

And I still lost, I ran into one bullet and suddenly I am losing.

So, if anyone can tell me how does everything work as simple as possible, it would be great.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 25, 2009, 07:50:11 PM
This (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View:_Gameplay) explains it all nicely.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Anonymity on May 25, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
1CC'd Mountain of Faith on Normal today
(Don't know how, last time I tried to complete it on normal I got game over'd on Rice Porridge.


Sometime a few days ago, finally beat Subterranean Animisim on Easy ( Say what you want about easy mode, but touhou 11 is my least favourite game out of the windows series, and the will to play really gets forced out with you when you keep having to continue stage 6 over and over again)


Is it just me, or is using a continue on touhou 10, 11 and 12 harder than just starting the game again so you can begin the stage with more lives? :s
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 25, 2009, 10:06:42 PM
Is it just me, or is using a continue on touhou 10, 11 and 12 harder than just starting the game again so you can begin the stage with more lives? :s
Depends. If you can't even get to the stage with at least 2 lives what's the point, right?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 01:48:48 AM
...I just found out how to alter my focus (and unfocus) speed for super-precise dodging.

No more clipdeaths on Satori for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on May 26, 2009, 02:33:34 AM
...I just found out how to alter my focus (and unfocus) speed for super-precise dodging.
Protip: Press shift for focussed movement.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on May 26, 2009, 02:57:13 AM
After all, there's no better accomplishment than learning to lift your finger off the shift button every once in a while.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 26, 2009, 03:38:35 AM
I just pawnt the extra stage on esod now. yayy. Every death and bomb I used on that run I let the enemy have so she wouldn't feel so bad that I rolled her so hard... yeah, right.

Seriously. I really lamed out her final spellcard by bomb spamming it (good thing I had the extra life still). But I really really didn't wanna do a screw up and die so close to beating her, so I just cheesed her out like that. I still feel proud as heck anyway (did I say her boss music is absolutely perfect too? I love it).

Anyway, about how hard is clearing the extra stage compared to a 1cc run of normal hard and lunatic respectively anyway? just curious if I can expect to do those next in about the same time or later.

I can't believe I died to cranberry trap like that. I can actually steal that card about 50/50. and when I can't. I don't die THAT early. gosh.

Edit:
wow, I completely forgot to post the link:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3369
imma put that on my resume I think >=p.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2009, 03:44:20 AM
Nah, ZUN only tells you to put "good at shooting games" on your resume when you beat MoF hard. :P

BTW:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3370

PCB phantasm one death clear. Marisa is not built for no death runs in PCB. >_>

Also, 3 scenes left in StB. 10-5, 10-6 OH GOD THE PAIN, and EX-2.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 26, 2009, 03:49:51 AM
nintendonut you're crazy
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 26, 2009, 03:53:42 AM
>_>

<_<

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2009, 03:54:15 AM
How? I'm nothing compared to other players like Kefit and FAV and bjw.

EDIT for Kanako: That's called persistence. Skill-wise I'm still well below a number of other lunatic players.

EDIT 2: Look, I know I'm good, but I'm not "you're crazy" good.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 26, 2009, 03:55:28 AM
Does capturing every card (besides a really easy one) on lunatic between EoSD and MoF not count for anything?

Not to mention the 1 death phantasm clear.

Not to mention that SoEW extra clear.

Not to mention <insert everything else here>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 04:16:02 AM
Not to mention <insert everything else here>
Where does that put everybody else then?

Also, I'm this *makes small gesture* close to a Perfect Stage 4 SA Run Pacifist. Hard Mode too.

EDIT: and earlier, I was referring to strictly being able to manipulate your movement speed between 4 speeds, unfocus 1,2 and focus 1,2. If you throw ReimuC for SA, make that another 2, etc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 26, 2009, 04:20:09 AM
Also, I'm this *makes small gesture* close to a Perfect Stage 4 SA Run Pacifist.
Which difficulty? lmao
I'm actually extremely close to number of MoF Lunatic perfect pacifist stage runs.

And even if nintendonut doesn't compare to superhumans like kefit he's still really darn good.


Ah, got my first EoSD extra clear today. It was actually pretty intense. I did really well in the beginning, but died a few times with 3 bombs in reserve, very costly, and completely screwed up the timeout spell. As a result, I only had 3 bombs by the time I got to 495 rings of death. If I wasn't freaking out I think I might've captured it even.

Anybody want this replay? If not I won't even bother uploading it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 26, 2009, 04:40:06 AM
EDIT: and earlier, I was referring to strictly being able to manipulate your movement speed between 4 speeds, unfocus 1,2 and focus 1,2. If you throw ReimuC for SA, make that another 2, etc.

Tell me more. I've never heard of this, unless you are messing with game variables/memory addresses.

Quote from: BaitySM
Where does that put everybody else then?

On some lower level of skill, I imagine. Touhou doesn't top out on being able to play effectively on Lunatic. On the contrary, that's really when the game begins. There are gigantic gaps in skill and accomplishments contained solely within the Lunatic difficulty, although it might be difficult to really understand them without also being a Lunatic player.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2009, 04:55:58 AM
What Kefit said. It was only 6 months ago that I was among everyone else in thinking that lunatic was the the ultimate goal. It was only when I reached that that I realized there's still so much more improvement to be done. So many little things to do...

Like capturing Pseudo Stradivarius~ I figured out my problem: Marisa is not a good shot type for such a streaming card. Sakuya A, the only non-Marisa shot type open for lunatic on the other hand...^_^

And with that, I have captured every spell card in PCB, and every spell card from EoSD through MoF. :D There's still some spell cards to be captured in PCB, but they're all lower difficulty level versions, and that's something I'd really need to be bored to finish off/something to be done over Summer.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 05:08:04 AM
Tell me more. I've never heard of this, unless you are messing with game variables/memory addresses.
I'm not messing with the data  =x

Though, it's a really basic trick that works wonders. It's a matter of moving diagonally when you're on the sides of the screen. This will slow you down to about... 70% of your actual speed. While it may seem like a small amount, it certainly does make a difference when you need the extra precision. The only limitation to this is that it's limited to the bottom of the screen, sides and top... until I find an improvement of dodging elsewhere that is.

If this is already known, then let me say that it took me 1 year to work that out  >_>

---

I'll take your words and agree that Lunatic isn't the end of it all. For now, it'd be nice if I could not mis-stream the waves for this pacifist run. Then I have to time out DBDB. I believe my analysis / rant about that Spell Card should say how annoying it is at Hard Mode.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on May 26, 2009, 05:45:46 AM
Oh yes, that's known about. It's not too terribly helpful on the high end, since staying at the bottom of the screen cuts off a lot of important dodging options. It can occasionally be useful though, as you've noted against Satori's noncards.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 05:48:15 AM
Bleh, I really am losing focus. Uploaded the incorrect replay, so...

Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3372) of a pacifist run getting close. Maybe I should catch up on sleep. Like really. Ramming a single bullet after the hardest part. Random, avoidable clips on DBDB. Falling asleep on "Insect's Flying Nest" where I forget to move. And clipping a few bullets on BoWaP.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 26, 2009, 05:58:38 AM
How? I'm nothing compared to other players like Kefit and FAV and bjw.

EDIT for Kanako: That's called persistence. Skill-wise I'm still well below a number of other lunatic players.

EDIT 2: Look, I know I'm good, but I'm not "you're crazy" good.

As long as you are improving further by practicing, you still just might be ridiculously crazy >=P. I personally hope that my skills don't "cap" for a really long time. Sometimes it seems like they do at one point for me(not beating the extra stage and dying to that stupid cata-whatever 5 bouncing blue shots crap like 6 attempts in a row). But then I pulled out a successful clear. And while luck was probably involved, I did a normal run on reimu B just to unlock her (cuz I haven't yet), and I was thinking "holy crap this is so easy it's a joke".

So fear not, as long as you still find yourself able to accomplish new goals, chances are you're on the path to gurudom >=P.

I'm so stoked still. I'm agonizing if I should try and beat hard mode 1cc style, or work on lunatic (I'm currently doing practice runs of stages on hard so I can get comfortable with the new spellcards, but I don't have them unlocked on lunatic.. what to do).

I also kinda want to try another touhou game too. Beating the extra boss was pretty fufilling for me. Hopefully in 6 months I'll be crying about how I can't fullclear lunatic something with no deaths >=P.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2009, 06:13:36 AM
Oh yes, that's known about. It's not too terribly helpful on the high end, since staying at the bottom of the screen cuts off a lot of important dodging options. I can occasionally be useful though, as you've noted against Satori's noncards.

...

*tries against Satori's non-spell cards*

ASDKFLJASKDLGJASDFKLJASDFKL AUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!

Nobody EVER tells me these things! D: See, this is exactly what I mean by "so many little things to learn." I never knew you could do that.

As long as you are improving further by practicing, you still just might be ridiculously crazy >=P. I personally hope that my skills don't "cap" for a really long time. Sometimes it seems like they do at one point for me(not beating the extra stage and dying to that stupid cata-whatever 5 bouncing blue shots crap like 6 attempts in a row). But then I pulled out a successful clear. And while luck was probably involved, I did a normal run on reimu B just to unlock her (cuz I haven't yet), and I was thinking "holy crap this is so easy it's a joke".

So fear not, as long as you still find yourself able to accomplish new goals, chances are you're on the path to gurudom >=P.

I'm so stoked still. I'm agonizing if I should try and beat hard mode 1cc style, or work on lunatic (I'm currently doing practice runs of stages on hard so I can get comfortable with the new spellcards, but I don't have them unlocked on lunatic.. what to do).

I also kinda want to try another touhou game too. Beating the extra boss was pretty fufilling for me. Hopefully in 6 months I'll be crying about how I can't fullclear lunatic something with no deaths >=P.

Well, I've been playing for about 18 months now, and I'm still improving little by little, so don't you worry about that. And move on to another game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 06:40:00 AM
...

*tries against Satori's non-spell cards*

ASDKFLJASKDLGJASDFKLJASDFKL AUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!

Nobody EVER tells me these things! D: See, this is exactly what I mean by "so many little things to learn." I never knew you could do that.
Not many people explain that moving diagonally reduces speed in 1-axis. All they ever gave was "avoid clipping and position yourself properly".

Regardless, it makes me happy that I taught you something new. There are also other places where this might be useful. Another example would be Parsee.

I'm so stoked still. I'm agonizing if I should try and beat hard mode 1cc style, or work on lunatic (I'm currently doing practice runs of stages on hard so I can get comfortable with the new spellcards, but I don't have them unlocked on lunatic.. what to do).
Up to you whether to go for 1cc Hard, or work on Lunatic. There are some notable differences between the two however, particularly if you're into scoring (which I seriously doubt you are). I've skipped quite a few Hard 1cc's because I can't be bothered.

---

And in other news... This morning, MoF Lunatic 1cc. Hooray. Kanako's opening is...  <_<

For the record as well, I've yet to complete Extra Stages for SoEW, LLS, EoSD, PCB, PoFV.

SoEW I've yet to unlock. I'd rather finish the runs on Normal, but that's proven to be quite hard impossible.
LLS, I've gotten dangerously close, even past "that lovely, lovely phase of bullet spam known as rape time" using only 12 bombs.
EoSD, I keep dying with bombs in stock. My scoring for the stage is close-to-perfect though. Yet to make it to Q.E.D.
PCB, I keep dying with bombs in stock. As I was about to finish, I lost it. A total of 7 mistakes were made during the entire run. Which means I could easily do it if I say, bombed at every moment I felt threatened. You can tell I really suck at bombing. Even pre-bombing, I have a very high likelihood of messing it up.
PoFV is...  >_>

Which one should I go for next?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 26, 2009, 06:56:51 AM
Probably PCB.

BTW, if you're facing Gengetu Rape Time, you're doing it wrong, because that's what happens when you try timing out her last phase. The phase I'm pretty sure you're thinking of has the unofficial name of Gengetu Spark.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 26, 2009, 08:13:22 AM
...

*tries against Satori's non-spell cards*

ASDKFLJASKDLGJASDFKLJASDFKL AUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!

Nobody EVER tells me these things! D: See, this is exactly what I mean by "so many little things to learn." I never knew you could do that.

Well, I've been playing for about 18 months now, and I'm still improving little by little, so don't you worry about that. And move on to another game.

QFT.  This would have saved me SO MUCH PAIN timing out Phantom of the Grand Guignol.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Anonymity on May 26, 2009, 03:06:50 PM
If it counts, 2/2 for MOF Extra Stage Kanako's 2nd spell card, despite that being my only 2 attempts, never seen it before this :S
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 26, 2009, 06:11:31 PM
And in other news... This morning, MoF Lunatic 1cc. Hooray. Kanako's opening is...  <_<
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF---

WOULD YOU STOP DOING EVERYTHING BEFORE I CAN?!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 26, 2009, 07:53:10 PM
LAG-FREE PCB IS SO FREAKING AMAZING SWEET JESUS.

Stage 3, no deaths, no bombs, one border break on Benevolent Orlean's Dolls.  I should have had that one too, but I got clipped at the last second -_-.  I'm going to wait and see if I can get a perfect run before uploading anything.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 26, 2009, 08:03:00 PM
Lag-free IN is also wonderful.

I scored 3,69B in border team lunatic now, capturing all 5 Kaguya's Last Spells. Really, i didn't expect it was this significant using Vysnc patch. It really felt like cheating. Replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3382)

I'm confused now. Is my run legit at all?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 26, 2009, 08:24:13 PM
Lag-free IN is also wonderful.

I scored 3,69B in border team lunatic now, capturing all 5 Kaguya's Last Spells. Really, i didn't expect it was this significant using Vysnc patch. It really felt like cheating. Replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3382)

I'm confused now. Is my run legit at all?

Of course. The lag is not supposed to be part of the game - it generally seems caused by incompatible keyboards and/or video card drivers. I dunno, really. But I didn't have the lag on a very old PC even without the patch. By the way, I don't get lag in IN if I run it in Windows 98 compatibility mode without the patch. This doesn't work for EoSD and PCB, though.

This sort of makes me wonder how many players were seriously playing these games thinking such hideous control lag was normal. No wonder people would doubt my EoSD runs...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 26, 2009, 08:29:04 PM
^Agreed.  I don't see why fixing an unfavorable design flaw would be considered cheating.  It just allows us to play the game as the creator originally meant for us to play it.

Besides, it's not like it completely breaks the game like, say, MarisaBugged.  It just allows for more precise movement through tight attacks and prevents a few cheap deaths. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 26, 2009, 08:31:50 PM
Okay, screw EoSD Lunatic, I'll do that one last. Time for MoF Lunatic, because that's the easiest one to clear apparently.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on May 26, 2009, 08:52:59 PM
A minor accomplishment - I dodged Rage Trilithon even though it seemed to consistently throw [relatively] BS waves at me. Basically it was one of those moments where you realise you've gotten better - this time in precise, complicated dodges.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gambit on May 26, 2009, 09:10:44 PM
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww151/Gambit178/LLShardAllclear-1.jpg)

It's about time I managed to do this considering LLS is supposed to be one of the easiest of the series, but whatever. Now I've got MS, EoSD, PCB and SA left for hard.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 26, 2009, 09:37:50 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF---

WOULD YOU STOP DOING EVERYTHING BEFORE I CAN?!
It's a bomb-spam management run.

Probably PCB.

BTW, if you're facing Gengetu Rape Time, you're doing it wrong, because that's what happens when you try timing out her last phase. The phase I'm pretty sure you're thinking of has the unofficial name of Gengetu Spark.
Quite sure it wasn't Gengetu Spark. It was either the phase after that (2nd last?), or the last phase (well, the start of it). Guess I should try timing it out... after clearing.

---

Also, regarding the use of the VSync patch. If I think you're using the files that I'm using, then there should also be a "fix" for MarisaB(ugged). Note that it will de-sync just about every replay that uses the bugged power, even for a split second. The only time when it shouldn't is when the bugged power was used to destroy those one-shot fairies.

Didn't think that the majority actually suffered from input lag from the older titles. I don't seem to have it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 27, 2009, 12:36:21 AM
I just captured Resurrection Butterfly for the second time ever.  Have I mentioned that Lag-free PCB is freaking amazing?  Because it is.

Edit:  Whoa, Lunasa's second nonspell isn't bullshit anymore.  I was always wondering about that...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 27, 2009, 02:22:01 AM
At long last...I have cleared every scene in StB. :D 10-5 and EX-2 have been downed, and so has that slut.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 27, 2009, 02:25:30 AM
Captured Vamp Illusion again. Woohoo.

And again.

HALF SECOND AWAY FROM CAPTURING ETERNAL MEEK and again
ALMOST CAPTURED MEISTER
HOT CHOCOLATE DOES WONDERS FOR TOUHOU

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2140/88571442.png (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2140/88571442.png)

mmm

Alrighty then, I can near-perfect Remilia and yet absolutely fail at Extra stage.

Aaaaand captured Green Books o' Death.
Aaaaand perfect Patchy fight. Including Max rank Mercury Poison and Bury in Lake.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kiro on May 27, 2009, 03:08:30 AM
My first ever Extra Stage clear! PCB Extra with ReimuB.

I had the urge to start up PCB Extra again over the weekend after a long layoff and within my second or third try, I got to Ultimate Buddhist which was the farthest I had ever gotten. Spent 2-3 hours on Monday improving in general, particularly aspects of the Stage, Chen's cards and Banquet. My last run on Monday got me to Descent of Izuna Gongen with 0/0 and I was a nervous wreck and didn't quite pull it off.

Cue to today and after about 20-30 mins, I got my clear. Run was crappy in quite a few regards, but I had some good moments here and there.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3383
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 27, 2009, 03:21:37 AM
It's a bomb-spam management run.
Believe me, I know.  I think my best run so far totalled 3 power on deaths (once with 2 power, once with 1).  And that one got over halfway through Kanako.

No, wait, I died with full power or her third noncard.  The trivially easy one.  But up until Kanako, I was spamming managing my bombs very very well.  I haven't had much of a chance to play today, nor, likely, tomorrow, but I'll hopefully beat it by the end of next week...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 27, 2009, 04:23:33 AM
Believe me, I know.  I think my best run so far totalled 3 power on deaths (once with 2 power, once with 1).  And that one got over halfway through Kanako.

No, wait, I died with full power or her third noncard.  The trivially easy one.  But up until Kanako, I was spamming managing my bombs very very well.  I haven't had much of a chance to play today, nor, likely, tomorrow, but I'll hopefully beat it by the end of next week...

I don't get how everyone does the third nonspell so well. It's so hard for me, I almost always bomb once.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on May 27, 2009, 04:28:03 AM
Left, up, right, down, move over, repeat.  With ReimuB you only have to to it two, maybe three times.  It's pathetically easy, really.  So is her second.  Her fourth can be tricky, and her first is COMPLETE BS, but her second and third are jokes.  I used to bomb it until I did it once and realized that was a complete waste.

I'll throw up a replay if you really have trouble with it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Darkblizer on May 27, 2009, 05:05:00 AM
I finally beat Orin and Utsuho, although when I got to Utsuho I had to use a continue, but I kind of expected that. Now that I have practice for the both I can now practice until I get all the stages down and am finally able to 1cc it.. Maybe before UFO even. *Changes signature*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 27, 2009, 05:17:38 AM
Holy crap! With the vsynch patch, PCB stage 3 is a LOT easier! I always thought there was more a reason why I had ever only captured Benevolent Orleans Dolls once than my incompetence...^_^

Hell God Sword still hasn't gotten any easier, unfortunately. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 27, 2009, 07:33:05 AM
Yeah I'm gonna need a replay for that one. I never bothered finding a pattern for it, I've always tried to find whatever opening was closest to me.

But I'd have to disagree about the 4th nonspell. It's actually incredibly easy. One is barely even streaming, one of them is, and one requires a little bit of reflexes, not much even.

The first one is incredibly hard, yeah, but I don't think it's bs. I just think it's a fair but really hard move.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 27, 2009, 07:50:20 AM
I just tried PCB in earnest this time (1 full clear of normal with continues). I got to stage 4 without 1 death. But the boss completely obliterated me. I think I died like 5 times on them. I forget what my problem was.

But after that it seemed like the vast majority of things that killed me seemed "cheap". I mean, stuff spawning where I did not expect it to, or had no warning about. Bullets heading in 1 direction, I skim past them to avoid it, and then BAM they change diretion and own me. Or mobs spawning out of thin air (I noticed on stage 2 you could see circles where they spawn before they do, but on later stages I saw no such warning).

Final boss seemed utterly impossible to have a good chance of beating without experience. No matter how skilled I would be. Namely butterfly bullets spreading or growing or accelerating suddenly without warning all of a sudden at certain points really threw me off.

Do I just suck at PCB or is it "cheaper" than esod? I had to use 2 continues on the final boss alone. Funny thing is I managed to spellcard steal what I thought was her final spellcard..the one before she turns into a ghost in front of a tree or whatever it was. I thought it was her last because the amount of health that particular spellcard had seemed like 5X more than most.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 27, 2009, 07:52:23 AM
I'd call EoSD the cheapest Touhou game simply because of all the times you can get screwed over with no chance of escape. PCB is fairer in comparison for sure.

And Yuyuko isn't as hard as Remilia, so yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 27, 2009, 07:54:44 AM
wow fast reply. I was going to edit my post and add a further question. But you already posted, thanks and sorry.

Is it just me or does Sakuya suck.. I mean. She has the biggest hitbox, she has garbage bombs, she has low damage, with insane spread, but not even homing. I mean what about her is good that I'm just too dumb to understand at this point.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on May 27, 2009, 08:21:39 AM
Is it just me or does Sakuya suck.. I mean. She has the biggest hitbox, she has garbage bombs, she has low damage, with insane spread, but not even homing. I mean what about her is good that I'm just too dumb to understand at this point.
She may have low damage, but SakuyaA does have 4 bombs, which means significantly more "lives" to get through the stage. And she does make up for that low power with homing shots. SakuyaB, however, I don't think there are any advantages to using her besides a really long time to execute a bomb, which Gil uses for his no vertical Phantasm run, and that seems kinda useless.

Some of the Touhou characters are pretty unbalanced, but what're ya gonna do haha

Also, from my experience, I'd have to say that the cheapest games are in this order from most to least:

IN has tons of weird spell cards that you just have to memorize, and a lot of them involve streaming, so you'd have to know where to place yourself. As a result, you have cheap cards that involve more memorizing than dodging and overall incredibly hard to do without getting familiar with the game.

PCB is a very friendly and fair game from the start, but starting from the last spell of stage 4 it starts to get bs. Stage 5 has some cards that are so dense they will definitely take a while to learn, and Yuyuko has the most annoying homing attacks ever. If anything is unfair in this game, it's Yuyuko. Lots of streaming that eventually traps most people in corners and such.

EoSD can be quite difficult, but most of these attacks are sightread-able, and to be honest, the few parts of the stages that are annoying can easily be bombed through. Sakuya's patterns are difficult, but not as dense as Youmu's, and Remilia's attacks are just plain hard, but at least they're doable, unlike Yuyuko's attacks, which focus on heavy homing.

SA is a very unfriendly for beginners because of the overall speed and unusual patterns found throughout the game. Stages are especially tricky to do your first time. For the most part however, the spell cards are very fair, although some of them do have gimmicks that will almost throw everyone off the first time. Luckily, bombs are based on the power system, which is the key reason why this is below PCB.

MoF is a great game because the patterns are very true to the bullet hell genre. Very few elements aren't fair. The cards are clean, simple, and creative without straying so far that it will catch you unexpectedly. And, bombs are based off the power system, so you can bomb as many times as you need.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 27, 2009, 11:28:22 AM
*shock and awe*

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl38.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=111&u=12803292)

Died with bombs in stock a few times.

Notable deaths include:

-"midboss"
-the circles of doom (mis-timed a switch-stream)
-Mugetu's first and second phases
-Gengetu's super-easy streaming for score phase; I forgot to add an extra tap, and got a face full of bullets.

It's so fun to play.

<3 Mugetu and Gengetu.

Note that I usually play as Reimu, if only because its easier to recognize the location of the hitbox (a ribbon instead of the end of the hair).

EDIT:(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl39.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=112&u=12803292)

This one was more frustrating. Simply because I died 3 times at the end phase, each with 2 bombs in stock.

Most interesting death(s)?

-Gengetu's 2nd phase. Where she shoots the diagonal-moving bullets that bounce all over the screen. She was in the center. I was boxed.
-Shotgun Mugetu out of habit. At the start of the 2nd phase. That's where the high speed bullets come out  >_>

Oh, and I'll go for timing out the last phase once I get there with enough lives.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 27, 2009, 02:07:21 PM
Good luck~ And good job. All I can say is that Gengetu is indeed <3 <3 <3.

And a protip: Neither of them actually have invincibility before the battle starts. You can shotgun them for extra damage at the very start of the battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on May 27, 2009, 09:34:04 PM
Finally 1CCed TouhouDS lol Reimuhax
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 27, 2009, 09:36:09 PM
Good luck~ And good job. All I can say is that Gengetu is indeed <3 <3 <3.

And a protip: Neither of them actually have invincibility before the battle starts. You can shotgun them for extra damage at the very start of the battle.
I noted pre-shotgunning before. I've used it for a while.

Anyway, upon taking too long to do a certain phase (hmm, I wonder which one?), Gengetu unleased "Rape Time". That's fast. Ended up bombing at every instant where I wasn't invulnerable, else I would've been hit.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on May 27, 2009, 09:53:24 PM
HELL YEAH
Captured Mountain of Faith using Reimu B!
I was so shocked that I forgot to save a replay!
...Mind you, I still have to capture Miracle of Otensui.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 27, 2009, 10:02:29 PM
Captured 4 of Yuyuko's six cards in Lunatic while getting the stages into Stage Practice. Yeah, I don't get how I did it either. Well, except for those two loleasy cards(third and fourth).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on May 27, 2009, 11:42:33 PM
I 1cced Banshiryuu stage 5 lunatic in practice mode!  Only 4 deaths and 8 bombs used!

Yes, that is a damn accomplishment.  Don't judge me. :-[
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 27, 2009, 11:50:03 PM
;_; (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3392)

SA Stage 4 Hard. Perfect pacifist stage run. Satori.... 2 deaths on DBDB, both due to bad reading of the card. Then "Flying Insect's Nest" because of lack of focus.

That's if I recall the run correctly. However, my memory is quite horrible.

Also, LLS Extra cleared with all characters, all shot types.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on May 28, 2009, 04:23:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVhLyM177ww&fmt=22

Scarlet Destiny Timeout without using the center. Mmm.

Also nearly beat EoSD Extra again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 28, 2009, 05:36:03 AM
I 1CC'd pcb on normal today. Didn't feel very proud of it like with esod though. While I still feel like the game is "cheaper" than esod, it felt like less of an accomplishment because of how many more extra lives and bombs you seem to get. I just pretty much bomb spammed the last 2 bosses pretty hard. had 3 lives left too (though I started with 5). I got some replays of the extra stage for pcb just to see if it looked like a good challenge that wasn't cheap and it seemed to be. But it's hard to tell cuz the replay I got seems like a cheater. No bombs, no deaths, like 2000 grazes in the first minute.. grazing absolutely everything. Almost never in focus mode, zooms exactly where they want to go without ever EVER having to re-correct their positioning, etc.

anyway the extra stages in pcb seem cooler so far >=).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Heartbeam on May 28, 2009, 05:49:18 AM
Broke it!  Over one million in CherryMax with Sakuya B on Hard!  Total score is a landslide (relatively speaking)!  I could never forsee that sort of run coming this soon especially with a character that I've had problems controlling for a long time, but even if the past Lunatic runs were still bombfests Hard felt more like a walk in the park than ever before thanks to it.  I'm estatic!  I can't cool down!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 28, 2009, 06:27:41 AM
Oh wow, one million.

I need much more time to counter that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 28, 2009, 07:02:38 AM
Entered Gengetu's final phase with 34 lives.

Decided for a "Why not?" and attempt to time it out...

...

...

I got video footage. I'll see if I can upload it. If not, a screenshot with a watermark should do.  >_>

---

3 lives and a bomb at the point where the phase started. I survived for 30 seconds, using every bomb / death.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 28, 2009, 07:11:10 AM
Well to be honest, timing out Gengetu Rape Time isn't very difficult. It's all a matter of reaching it with enough resources and timing your bombs right. I'm all for the video, but It'd be much more impressive to actually survive the attack without bomb spam like Trancehime allegedly did (he claims he beat it with only one death...)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 28, 2009, 07:18:44 AM
Well to be honest, timing out Gengetu Rape Time isn't very difficult.
>_>
It's all a matter of reaching it with enough resources and timing your bombs right.
<_<
I'm all for the video, but It'd be much more impressive to actually survive the attack without bomb spam like Trancehime allegedly did (he claims he beat it with only one death...)
I don't see how it's possible with one death, even with the best case; 4 bombs + 1 death as a buffer. Also, to actually survive without bomb-spam is... out of my ability  ;_;

...it's not uploading. Either that, or it's moving WAAAAY too slow. Stupid University Proxy Server. Nope, returned an error.

Guess it will have to wait until I get home. On the other side of things, it does mean I can improve on it.

Until then, just lemme put up a screenshot (or 3).

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/grt110.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=113&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/grt210.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=114&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/grt310.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=117&u=12803292)
They're all video stills. Watermark is obvious. All 3 of these screenshots were taken just before a bullet collided, forcing me to deathbomb (or just plain die).

It's by far, much, much worse than Mokou's "Rings of Death".

---

And in other news, I did it again for the sake of practicing.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl41.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=119&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl40.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=118&u=12803292)

Unexpected things happened. I'm taking about that super-graze phase. Face full of bullets (didn't twitch far enough >_>). Also:

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl42.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=120&u=12803292)

...does Gengetu seem to have some kind of vendetta against people who mass-graze? Those blue "twin-bullets" move as fast as the ones during "Rape Time". So I guess you could call this a slightly downed version. With 4x less bullets.

---

While I'm on a spree, I present another 2cc tHRtP Normal.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl43.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=121&u=12803292)

This time, it's Hell. Did I mention that the stages are complete garbage? Final Boss is trivial. Mima is not.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on May 28, 2009, 11:10:05 AM
Haha!! That was sure long time overdue. How does it sound when you have played for a year and haven't done an EoSD Extra clear before now? I finally got myself pulled together to get it done and i cleared it in three tries (only counting runs actually reaching Flandre). I did however fail apparently anything that wasn't Lavatain and Silent Selene. I guess it was due to the effect of just wanting things done.

After that i started practicing which handed me a capture of Cranberry Trap, Starbow Break and Counter Clock as well as Philosophers Stone. Pretty good. I'll play with her a little more some other day.

Feeling very happy about finally having that Flandre battle over and done with i decided that i would try my best at clearing IN Extra as well as i could. The result was 8 captured spells. Discounting Keines which i failed all three of in some ridiculous way. Let's just say i didn't want to restart.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Noite on May 28, 2009, 01:52:48 PM
After a couple of days of failure and one REALLY bad choke, I finally cleared EOSD extra.

The death on and then will there be none was just terrible yeah :P also panic bombed at the end of it, since I really didn't want to risk choking on yet another good attempt. On the plus side, finally captured cranberry trap and catadioptric!

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3399

Guess next stop is MoF extra, which is considered to be pretty easy so I've heard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 28, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
The Jigoku route is love. Mima's cheap, but dies quickly and is therefore easier than Yuugen Magan. The stages are better built to give you extra lives, and Konngara is the best boss fight in the game.

Plus I can't get anywhere near close to a lunatic 1cc in the Makai route. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on May 28, 2009, 07:27:43 PM
I love lag free PCB. Cleared Reimu B with maximum lives, scoring 1,6B.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 28, 2009, 10:19:03 PM
For the sake of curiosity I attempted to timeout Mugetu's first phase.

Nasty, yet somewhat expected surprise...

Interesting, so it would be logical to conclude that all the phases seem to have an equivalent super-speedy phase. This means that it might actually be possible to do pre-practice before taking on the one and only. However, at this point, I have yet to find a phase that fits as an "in-between". So there's still a rather large gap between the said phase and "Gengetu Rape Time". Hoping to be able to find the "in-between" phase somewhere in one of Gengetu's phases.


In the event that you haven't noted, I plan on doing "Gengetu Rape Time" to a somewhat proper degree that is not called bomb-spammanagement. And yes, I love bold-ing the phase because it's so awesome. That, and I absolutely love the two <3.

---

Okay, enough of that.

I found the flaw of the majority of my scoring runs, which I don't submit because they're incomplete. The flaw lies in Stage 4 primarily. Except for SA. Stage 6 is complete garbage when it comes to Utsuho's Spell Cards.

Going for another MoF score-run once I'm back from the practical class.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 28, 2009, 10:43:42 PM
Wait, you say Mugetu has time out attacks too? WHAT?! brb, I have to see for myself...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 28, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
OH...MY...GOD.

Baity's right: Every single phase Mugetu and Gengetu have has a special time-out phase. Doing the whole fight pacifist, I got to Gengetu's second phase before losing my last life.

In all three of them, they add the "twin" bullets fired rapidly and randomly. Mugetu's first phase from what I recall has the bullets the fires increase in density, and her second I can't remember, but I think it just added the twin bullets.

Again, because of all the bombs used I didn't see much of Gengetu's first timeout phase, but I think she actually made the gaps wider in her tiny bullet spam to balance out the random twin bullets. I actually dodged a wave.

Oh Baity, you've hit upon GOLD! Now I have to see what her second, third, and fourth phases yield! BTW, her fifth phase doesn't have one; it goes directly to her sixth. Gengetu~ I love you so~

EDIT: ...I just came up with terrible names for every one of these phases. The only two names I like though are "Mugetu's Maiding Ritual" and "1000% Gengetu Sparking."
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on May 28, 2009, 11:41:59 PM
"1000% Gengetu Sparking."
Really? REALLY?


Gives me an idea.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 29, 2009, 12:11:57 AM
Wow, now I feel like I did something special.

Now to actually try to time out these other phases to see what's in them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Suikama on May 29, 2009, 12:23:01 AM
This needs to be tested in every PC98 game lol
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 29, 2009, 12:29:05 AM
This needs to be tested in every PC98 game lol
Timeout Evil Eye Sigma? Hell no.

I might run a timeout to see what happens against Alice. Though I doubt there will be anything.

brb


Nothing! As expected.

EDIT: I might've just found a way to deal with Yumeko's knife/laser spam. Going to test it... once I die. There's no way that this run is going to be a 1cc Hard.

EDIT 2: Oh, died on Stage 6. 382 Point items too  ;_;

EDIT 3: And Shinki takes off all of my continues. I survive on my last continue, and life.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 29, 2009, 01:39:45 AM
For the record, I don't think timing attacks out exists in SoEW. Either that, or the timers are REALLY long.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 29, 2009, 03:43:19 AM
For the record, I don't think timing attacks out exists in SoEW. Either that, or the timers are REALLY long.
Well, that's nice to know. Either way, I'm not going to experiment.

EDIT: I might've just found a way to deal with Yumeko's knife/laser spam. Going to test it... once I die. There's no way that this run is going to be a 1cc Hard.
Test failed. On the knife + laser phase that is. Back to the drawing board. So, running circles around Yumeko (even at the top of the screen) is ineffective. Except for some reason, it worked on her second phase. Going to look at it some more... after eye dissection.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on May 29, 2009, 04:22:01 AM
HOLY-
I captured Hell's Artificial Sun on my first try!
...Still, I had to continue about 15 times to even reach that spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 29, 2009, 06:09:59 AM
To my disappointment, timing out Gengetu Spark doesn't give Gengetu a larger spark. It's amazing what super speedy random bullets can do when added on though~ By the time I realized to take a screenshot, it timed out, sorry. :( It seems that only Gengetu Rape Time differs significantly from its normal counterpart, or lasts for any substantial period of time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 29, 2009, 06:49:17 AM
To my disappointment, timing out Gengetu Spark doesn't give Gengetu a larger spark. It's amazing what super speedy random bullets can do when added on though~ By the time I realized to take a screenshot, it timed out, sorry. :( It seems that only Gengetu Rape Time differs significantly from its normal counterpart, or lasts for any substantial period of time.
*insert empathy here* The phases themselves only last a good 10 seconds or so. Except for "Gengetu Rape Time".

Also, I'm quite sure I can witness it myself. And... if it's only "Gengetu Rape Time" that stands out, then there's no real practical way to practice (or develop) against it.

Now onto Yumeko again...  >_>
[rhetorical]
Why is there such a large gap in difficulty between Normal and Hard?
[/rhetorical]

Expect me to post something while you sleep.

EDIT: I might be onto something here. Let me run on Lunatic. Which will be my first time on Lunatic for LLS MS.

Hm. Well, Lunatic gave me a surprise. Due to the phase not lasting very long, it looks like I'll have to go through again. Oh, and I couldn't circle around the 2nd phase like Hard Mode.

Late Night EDIT: Looks like I actually have a chance against Yumeko. At Lunatic. However, because of the random nature of the laser spawn...  >_>

Also, those knife-things have huge hitboxes.

I order the difficulty of her phases like so (easiest first):

*First knife / kunai spam phase* < *Knife / kunai spam + lasers < *Knife / Kunai spam + more knives*

Excluding the other easier phases of course. And that's at Lunatic.

Hard Mode I can do perfectly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 29, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Played some normal pcb again with marissa instead of bombspam sakura after applying the input delay vsync patch. Did much better.. well actually I kinda blew on stage 5, and I did alot of really stupid bombs (after I beat a spellcard I'll bomb at the queue of the spellcard being defeated out of reflex, durka). But I really rocked on the final boss, no deaths, 1 bomb (on the rotating lazer with the popsickle bullets swimming like fishies >=P.. I don't really know how else to describe it). I felt so pro...of course I'm not but I'll get there eventually hopefully.

I can't wait to do the extra stage, I watched a video of it and it really looked pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on May 29, 2009, 01:53:46 PM
Just sat down and decided to run at MoF without MarisaBugging my way through.  Me and MoF don't get along - I seem to find it unremarkable and boring, but for some reason I warmed up to it a bit.

I also captured Mountain of Faith (Normal).  That's huge for me... because I've never even CLEARED MoF as any character other than MarisaB before, nevermind capturing one of the most infuriating spells in the game.

Didn't 1cc though due to unfamiliarity with Kanako's spellcards D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Noite on May 29, 2009, 02:35:20 PM
MoF extra cleared! Took me a lot less than I thought, I'm absolutely terrible at criss cross bullets but ended up not sucking so bad on suwako's last card.

PCB extra next, since it'll take me AGES to even unlock SA's :\
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on May 29, 2009, 02:43:56 PM
I went to see if my success at MoF would let me capture Virtue of Wine God in Uwabami Breakers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c85TrVTG_yw).  I've mostly got "Disco Fro" figured out now, but the stage costs a lot of time by spawning enemies right at the bottom of the screen (ARGH), and his last non-spell basically forces a bomb.  The second-to-last Spellcard is much easier than expected though.

(If you don't know what Uwabami Breakers is, it's a danmaku about getting drunk, running on the MoF engine.  3 stages, unique lives system and bomb/power based off of comboing.  Also ZUN composes the final boss song and probably designed most of the patterns)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: dustyjo on May 29, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
I got the good ending in one game. That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on May 29, 2009, 10:58:42 PM
1CC IN Normal.

But the game died when I was watching the ending. D:  I have to do it again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 30, 2009, 04:59:36 AM
Woot, pawnt Ran in the extra stage of PCB. I had some pretty stupid deaths caused by my unfamiliarity of the fight in general (plus I was getting nervous and panic-driven at that point too), which is funny cuz you can clearly see that I can unconsciously do the early half of the whole level as easily as blinking >=P..spent like 4 hours just doing the first half over and over again only to screw up on red oni blue oni or chen's other bomb.. But I decided to screw it and just bomb spam her so I could have fun with ran eventually. (which is funny cuz I don't think I really needed to bomb either time on chen. Thing with pcb is I can't deathbomb.. ever.. it's like it never registers when i'm going to die and bomb, I always have to do it ridiculously early).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 30, 2009, 05:28:45 AM
Thing with pcb is I can't deathbomb.. ever.. it's like it never registers when i'm going to die and bomb, I always have to do it ridiculously early.
You'd be surprised how often this happens with me. I ended up nearly clearing Extra for the first time, losing all lives, and using only 3 bombs. To this point, I'm still a bit lazy (or rather, having fun with PC-98 Touhou) to actually go for a clear.

---

Time to upload a story!

MS Normal 1cc. To unlock Reimu for Extra. I was doing great, until Stage 5. Yumeko was a problem because I attempted to graze everything; which is a very bad idea. Even at Normal.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl45.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=125&u=12803292)
My Spirit Gauge is empty.

Oh wait, it isn't anymore...
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl46.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=126&u=12803292)
Damn Shinki. Like really, see for yourself:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl47.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=127&u=12803292)
Yeah, losing that many lives and bombs is really, really frustrating. But it wasn't at the 3rd and 2nd last phases (surprisingly, I only needed to bomb once for the 2nd last phase). It's because I (once again) tried to score by grazing (2nd phase I believe), and the randomly deviating bullets (which are aimed around you) got to me.

Also, snake bullets. I can do the ones in Extra, but not here. Strange. And I'm trying to work out exactly how far they can bend. Which I seem to be able to estimate pretty well. It's just that the area given for the phase is tiny. Further, the snake bullets spawn close to each other during certain parts. I ran into them with full bombs in stock. Twice.

The final score is close to about double my other 1cc scores. So I feel kinda good about that.

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MS Extra! With Reimu! And not Mima! Actually, I cleared MS Extra first with Mima.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl48.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=128&u=12803292)
At this point, I was shocked. Even though the stage run was imperfect (see: Bombs gone), I made it past the final wave! (see: Spirit Gauge Maxed). Then I had to bomb die to Alice's first phase. BS walled right at the start. I didn't even move yet, and saw an incoming wall.

*did not take screenshots in between / record video*

...after the final phase (which looks really ridiculous as it speeds up; I even lost focus):
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl49.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=129&u=12803292)
Not a bad score. I did die with bombs in stock a few times. Guess I might be inclined to do it again. Also, I bombed before the final phase started to get over 200 Point Items, resulting in Extend!

...and that's what I did today while the internet was down.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 30, 2009, 05:32:42 AM
Yuka's the ONLY way to play MS extra. Yuka is for pimps.  8)

Also, snake bullets are extremely overrated. Dump your spell card theory stuff, it's simple misdirection.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 30, 2009, 05:34:55 AM
Yuka's the ONLY way to play MS extra. Yuka is for pimps.  8)

Also, snake bullets are extremely overrated. Dump your spell card theory stuff, it's simple misdirection.
Never.

It may as well be simple misdirection, but there are certain times where I still end up being in the trajectory of the snake bullets against Shinki. The room you have to actually move during that phase against Shinki is less than Alice's.

EDIT: And it's a bloody trapezium zone.

Oh, and a fix in the previous post.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 30, 2009, 06:13:02 AM
Whilst hopelessly grinding HRtP hard, I figured one thing out that oughta save a life: Elis always starts with her laser spam. You know, the one where if you're not within 30 degrees of under her you get laser walled with no chance of dodging whatsoever? That's useful. Also, Sariel's once hateful second phase (in her first form) is now a lot easier. If you look at Sariel, you'll always be able to predict when she fires an exploding orb. It's actually...streaming.

I wish I remembered to keep Shadowbringer's list of levels to bomb in, because I forgot which ones they were. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on May 30, 2009, 06:30:24 AM
Phantasmagoria of Flower View
Lunatic
All Clear
Reimu

...Not a 1cc but I think I need to go pass out now.  I feel AWESOME 8D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 30, 2009, 07:11:15 AM
Perfect run against the snake bullets this time. What's even weirder is that it was with Yuka. And I might just have the optimal solution* regarding the snake bullets. Going to test it tomorrow. I've had enough of Shinki / Alice.

Here's the 1cc result. Too bad I messed the rhythm in the 2nd last phase. Had to bomb twice.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl50.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=130&u=12803292)

I should do a video of one of these PC-98 runs sometime.

*dodging using the minimum amount of movement possible

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Oh wow.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl51.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=131&u=12803292)

This beats my old score 1.5x over. It would seem that the Hell path can be easily score abused. Like how I got a 91-chain for Stage 19. Oh, and Stages 15 and 20 are much easier. Too bad Stage 10 isn't in the perfect zone for me.

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MS runs with full Spirit Gauge during Stage 1 is awesome. Also, I seem to be getting closer and closer to working out how to get past Yumeko's knife (+ laser) spam phases.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 30, 2009, 08:26:08 PM
1cc IN Hard w/ Marisa and Alice, meaning I've beaten that game on Hard with a team other than Border Team.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on May 30, 2009, 09:48:22 PM
Captured Hell God Sword on Lunatic. I'd post a replay, but I failed all the other cards on that Practice run. =V Even her second last. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 30, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
So you know when you have had trouble with a spell card since the time you first faced it, actually PRACTICED it for a bit, and quickly see the obvious solution and proceed to capture it 7 times in a row?

That just happened with me and event horizon. My problem has always been dodging the stars coming down and the ones coming up, as I completely suck at attacks that sandwich you. So I went into spell practice, noticed that the stars below you are visible before coming up, and thought "maybe I should position myself in between those stars before they come up, making it so I only have to worry about stars coming from one direction."

...

I'm a genius.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 30, 2009, 10:09:39 PM
Beat MoF hard again, this time actually capturing some freaking spell cards. Some absolutely tragic deaths though, and I still don't get why I keep failing  Sanae's third card. It's STATIC, for heaven's sake.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 30, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
No it isn't. The star's trajectories are based upon your position when they spawn like all the others. If you move wrong you can screw yourself over, like I do 2/3 of the time. :(

BTW, I love to say the name of that spell card, "Takeminakata Invocation."
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on May 31, 2009, 12:23:45 AM
HAHGGH *gasps for air*

Finally 1cc'ed PCB Hard mode, using Marisa A, since I'm too stubborn to use an easier character.

I don't think I actually died until Prismriver Sisters... or maybe it was Lily, I don't remember. Anyway, I did spectaculary(from a survival standpoint, anyway) on the Sisters and all of Stage 5, including Youmu <3

And I usually do a little better against Yuyuko, but whatever. I'm happy to finally have that out of the way.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3452
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on May 31, 2009, 01:01:23 AM
No it isn't.

Ah! That explains a lot then.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Reprosa on May 31, 2009, 02:29:19 AM
EoSD Extra, and by extension, all Extra stages beaten. Cranberry Trap and Maze of Love were the only cards that had to be learned since Royal Flare, And Then There Were None and QED can be pretty much trivialized with a bomb (or death for QED).

It was a lot easier than I expected, honestly. Was this just because of the experience from the other Extras (PCB seems harder, SA probably the best mix of difficulty and fairness) or is it just considered harder than it really is because most fans weren't as good of players when they learned it than when the newer games came out?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 31, 2009, 02:33:55 AM
IMO, Flandre is the second hardest PC Touhou boss behind Yukari (danmaku-wise; the amount of lives you have to work with ruins her completion-wise). With one exception, none of the extra bosses are much trouble once you learn their patterns enough. The exception is Evil Eye Sigma from SoEW, who combines difficulty with unfairness in an evil way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on May 31, 2009, 02:54:00 AM
Cleared PCB phantasm stage wewt.. ok well I did awhile ago, but it was my usual first fare with no lives and no bombs left, and I just KNEW I could do a helluva lot better.. so I tried again and did. Notice how Xandu just about owned me again with another omgwtfthatssolame laser attack AGAIN...too bad I had supernatural barrier SUCKER AHHHAHAHAHAHHA.

I could have had one less death if I also knew I would insta-die immediately after that spellcard where she turns invisible, appears on you, shoots, invisible etc... I kinda killed that spellcard while she was on me. so I died as soon as the next phase happened...ghey.

I also died on ran simply cuz I'm still not really sure how I'm supposed to do it.

Assuming I do it again without screwing up on ran, and know the teleport phase, I think my run would have made most of you long time touhouers proud.. Seriously I'm really proud of this one.

BTW thank you doughnut for showing me how to do the boss' last phase. I was nervous about the 2nd last wave, and you showed me to just camp it so her right eye is right between the black and white part of Marissa's shoulders >=).. saved me a bomb there I'm sure.

zomg I'm so proud, I have tears in my eyes *sniff* (ok not really).

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3457
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 31, 2009, 03:08:44 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3458

IN extra 12 spell cards captured. The only ones I fail are Woo and Possessed by Phoenix (god damn that second phase I always get crunched). Other than that though, this goes under "most embarrassing moments." You know why? While circling Mokou on Woo, she slide tackles me. This is my first mistake the whole fight, causing a death bomb. Then because she threw off my timing, I get hit again soon after. This ruins what could have been my first no deaths run of this stage, but Possessed by Phoenix also ruined that.

 :'( I WILL GET YOU SOMEDAY!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 31, 2009, 05:56:25 AM
Whoa. ._. I just attempted HRtP lunatic Makai route, and 7cc'd it. After continuing, I died once to Yuugen Magan, NO DEATH'D Elis, and after 4 continues, cleared Sariel without bombing (and 3 spare lives). Is this...actually possible?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 31, 2009, 06:30:04 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

4088 TRIES

SAIGYOUJI
FLAWLESS
NIRVANA

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

edit:
www.spacedoutgame.com/th8_udSP13.rpy

Still shaking.  Those last 10 seconds lasted a year.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 31, 2009, 08:28:28 AM
Oh wow.

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And for today, perfect Yumeko battle at Hard.
Pray that my current strategy for Shinki works.

...and I survived 6 seconds of "Gengetu Rape Time" without bombing / dying / invulnerability time. Wish I video'd it, so I could make a 6 second .gif or something.

Even better if I could pull off the feat again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 31, 2009, 08:30:04 AM
Baity, you're on your way to becoming crazy. Is there actually a pattern you can see for Gengetu Rape Time?

As for me, I finally perfected lunatic Yugi. :) Not the hardest stage 3 boss anymore.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on May 31, 2009, 08:39:31 AM
Baity, you're on your way to becoming crazy. Is there actually a pattern you can see for Gengetu Rape Time?
Thank you for the compliment. I don't see any pattern unfortunately. It would appear to be completely random bursts of spreading shots (circles).

Best way to actually practice against "GRT" is to... probably grind against Mokou's Rings of Death*. That's the closest thing I can find at this point that isn't in LLS**.

And due to the nature of the bullets, I would say to compensate, go unfocused.

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*Yumeko's first attack phase appears to be a close second.

**Note that for almost every attack in the Touhou series, there is a semi-equivalent (if not fully equivalent) counterpart. An example is Alice (MS) in Extra, with her 100% Purple Phase (lasers and mini-lasers; not with the lock-on lasers), and Elis from HRtP with her opener. That's how I learnt to deal with Alice.

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Partially suspending Shinki battle while I eat dinner. All seems so well so far.

EDIT: Cleared and going through again. It was a messy run  ;_;

Current status:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl52.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=132&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl53.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=133&u=12803292)
Oh F-
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl54.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=134&u=12803292)
My worst. Oh, and that was a missed deathbomb, in addition to a bomb.
Queue perfect 2nd half of the battle.

Showtime.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl55.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=135&u=12803292)
First knife + laser spam was fine.
First and second knife spam was fine
Second knife + laser spam was... ugh. I bombed 2 times.
Then the side-knife phase got me. More than once too.
Why does it always happen when I try to record!?  ;_;
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl56.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=136&u=12803292)
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl57.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=137&u=12803292)
Snake bullet phase is down!
...and I would've had the 2nd last phase down as a perfect if it wasn't for me dying at the same time. Started Shinki with 5 lives, 0 bombs by the way (last bomb used for scoring, which doesn't make my score any better than the one I did for Normal).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on May 31, 2009, 12:04:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-u7zCjquM&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-u7zCjquM&fmt=22)

Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, Phantom of the Grand Guignol, and Emperor of the East timed out.

Way, way, too awesome!  ;D

I still can't believe I got that timeout.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on May 31, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
4088 TRIES

Now that's devotion. :D

Awesome job. It's easily the most difficult last word to time out. Or IN card in general, for that matter.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: hiddenryuu on May 31, 2009, 06:52:12 PM
here's my minuscule accomplishment compared to all the crazy people here .


I timed out Sakuya's first 2 cards without dying. (Lunatic)

Almost did her 2nd non spell again without dying or bombing but died at the last possible second.

Her first non spell and her last cards still pwn me with no cigar though D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 31, 2009, 08:22:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-u7zCjquM&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-u7zCjquM&fmt=22)

Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, Phantom of the Grand Guignol, and Emperor of the East timed out.

Way, way, too awesome!  ;D

I still can't believe I got that timeout.

I'm still waiting for that LLS extra pacifist run. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 01, 2009, 01:14:55 AM
Finally 3cced Banshiryuu c67 on lunatic!  It was with max lives but oh well, at least I now have all stages unlocked for practice. 

The last boss fight is quite strange.  The entire first half is made up of extremely easy patterns, but then in her last two phases she seems to go "Oh yeah I'm supposed to be a final boss aren't I" and starts flooding the screen with bullets and homing lasers.  Luckily I had some extra lives left at that point, so I just held the bomb button down until the shitstorm ended.

I still hope to eventually 1cc this with default lives.  Not necessarily this month, or even next month, but someday...

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 01, 2009, 05:29:04 AM
"GRT" timed down and gone. 2 lives, 5 bombs total. Started said phase with 3 lives, 1 bomb.

Taking out that time from "GRT", which lasts about 1 minute (a bit over I think), it leaves ~13 seconds in "GRT" where I actually dodged without invulnerability (of course, I still tried to dodge with invulnerability for practice and such). Divide that down, and you get about 2 seconds in before I needed to bomb. Again.

Seems like those 6 seconds of victory were a complete fluke  ;_;

Some analysis:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl58.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=138&u=12803292)
-The bullets move so fast, that not even Reimu's unfocus speed can outrun it; this needs a Marisa check, though PC-98 Marisa doesn't seem to be fast like the current Marisa.
-Circles. Lots and lots of circles. Too bad not all of the bullets are 1x1 in dimensions like the snowballs.
-Fortunately, the bursts are close to each other (in terms of position), so it's like almost like dodging a circle after another circle, etc. Unlike Mokou's Rings of Death, which are a bit more spread out
-Another close comparison to "GRT" would be Mid-boss Orin Stage 4 Lunatic SA.

Going to research "GRT" a bit more from my video file.

For some reason, researching this is fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 05:34:31 AM
Just don't go insane. :( I don't think timing out GRT is healthy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 08:20:57 AM
And now for something completely different.

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1221/hrtplunatic.png)

Turns out HRtP lunatic is possible for people not named Shadowbringer.

This is the first Touhou lunatic I've achieved for a non-shooter. :O This brings me to (9) lunatics. :O :O

Though I think I'd have to 1cc the Makai route too before I can consider this a true 1cc.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 01, 2009, 08:37:29 AM
Why is my Easy Mode score close you your Lunatic one?

Congrats. You've just inspired me to go for Normal.

Now do PoDD Lunatic. Kidding. You're like a rolemodel to me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on June 01, 2009, 08:40:57 AM
EoSD Normal with max lives.

I can finally fool around in the Extra Stage! First attempt, got to Flandre and proceeded to completely screw up on Laevatein.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 08:41:48 AM
Heh, me a role model? It's so weird to think I could be one. Thanks anyway.

Quote
Why is my Easy Mode score close you your Lunatic one?

I play to beat lunatics. I don't play for score. Really, I'm almost ashamed how low my scores are, how people just casually score running on normal are far higher than my lunatic scores.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 01, 2009, 10:19:37 AM
I play to beat lunatics. I don't play for score. Really, I'm almost ashamed how low my scores are, how people just casually score running on normal are far higher than my lunatic scores.
It's strange for HRtP though. The scoring I mean. Difficulty doesn't change your score that much. Especially with turrets (and cards shooting at you for Lunatic). Anyway:

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl59.png) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=139&u=12803292)

My score would be a lot higher if I didn't break the chain at Stage 19, twice. Both at ~40. Also, died at Mima 5 times in 15 seconds. There's something wrong with my play style and Mima, seriously.

Also, what is that thing in the Ending? For Hell (Jigoku) Path.

---

And I might have just found a way to bypass the proxy when it's dealing with uploading huge files. Going to test it tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Noite on June 01, 2009, 01:20:07 PM
PCB extra cleared! Oh well not that much of an accomplishment, it felt way too easy, but still every extra completed apart from SA! (which I haven't even unlocked yet :x)

Only 1cced hard on IN, so I have EOSD, PCB and MoF hard or SA normal, any of them considerably easier or are they basically at the same level?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
Oh, a tip for Baity that kind of (read: completely) made that lunatic 1cc possible: If you bomb on certain levels, your score will go off the charts and you will often gain one extra life from that alone. In fact, bomb on level 19 of the Jigoku route, and you can get 4 or even 5 lives. The only reason I beat Konngara was because I entered her with max lives.

Sadly, the lesser amount of tiles in the Makai route prevents this from working there as well. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 01, 2009, 03:09:57 PM
Okay.  What is this Gengetu Rape Time, and is there a video of it somewhere?

(Oh, and I brought this up elsewhere too, but, I love Marisa B Showoffs (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3477))
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 06:22:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS-o5nYe9pw&feature=channel_page

Skip to 4:00, and it will begin soon. It is the name given to Gengetu (LLS extra boss in case you don't know)'s special phase if you try timing out her last attack phase. The name is quite apt.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 01, 2009, 07:37:33 PM
PCB extra cleared! Oh well not that much of an accomplishment, it felt way too easy, but still every extra completed apart from SA! (which I haven't even unlocked yet :x)

Only 1cced hard on IN, so I have EOSD, PCB and MoF hard or SA normal, any of them considerably easier or are they basically at the same level?

nice, I'm intending to finish every normal and extra before I work on  hards too. I'm thinking of skipping the extra stage for IN though. I just didn't like IN as much as esod or pcb (didn't like pcb at first either but the vsync patch really helped), and I've watched a replay for the extra boss, while it looks challenging, her music totally sucks >=P.. plus the fact that over half her bullets are actually those domino thingies.. I dunno, just doesn't looks as "epic" as esod/pcb's extra stages.

I don't know if you meant phantasm by extra. You really should try it too. It can seem pretty hard to begin with but once you get the hang of it, it's really not much worse than the regular extra stage in pcb. And the final boss is very cool (music is awsomeness). Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Noite on June 01, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
nice, I'm intending to finish every normal and extra before I work on  hards too. I'm thinking of skipping the extra stage for IN though. I just didn't like IN as much as esod or pcb (didn't like pcb at first either but the vsync patch really helped), and I've watched a replay for the extra boss, while it looks challenging, her music totally sucks >=P.. plus the fact that over half her bullets are actually those domino thingies.. I dunno, just doesn't looks as "epic" as esod/pcb's extra stages.

I don't know if you meant phantasm by extra. You really should try it too. It can seem pretty hard to begin with but once you get the hang of it, it's really not much worse than the regular extra stage in pcb. And the final boss is very cool (music is awsomeness). Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.

Well, I tried phantasm a few times, mainly just so I could see yukari's intro dialogue, and so far it seems a LOT harder than 1ccing hard on the other games, so I didn't even suggest that as a possible next step :P

You should definitely give IN extra a go, it's probably the easiest extra, plus you can use spell practice on mokou's cards, so it shouldn't take long at all.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 01, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
Well, I tried phantasm a few times, mainly just so I could see yukari's intro dialogue, and so far it seems a LOT harder than 1ccing hard on the other games, so I didn't even suggest that as a possible next step :P

You should definitely give IN extra a go, it's probably the easiest extra, plus you can use spell practice on mokou's cards, so it shouldn't take long at all.

yeah, but I've learned many a moons ago to not play a game if you aren't enjoying it. I just didn't enjoy IN much. I'll clear it simply for bragging rights after I beat all the other ones that I enjoy more >=).

the phantasm stage itself IS much harder than extra, I mean the boss isn't terribly much harder. I can never get past those stupid pentegram turret thingies just before the boss. And the fairies immediately after midboss ran love making me use both my bombs.. ugh. Stages in general are made much easier once you memorize most of it though.

I had a hard time with the very beginning too. But it's not soo bad once you get the hang of it. I watch some people hug the bottom and move left/right for the start, I don't suggest this. Practice doing it so you actually get the power ups, it really helps  you beat the part where the fairies come from the top of the screen firing 1 of 2 kinds of spread shots.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 01, 2009, 09:22:04 PM
Oh, a tip for Baity that kind of (read: completely) made that lunatic 1cc possible: If you bomb on certain levels, your score will go off the charts and you will often gain one extra life from that alone. In fact, bomb on level 19 of the Jigoku route, and you can get 4 or even 5 lives. The only reason I beat Konngara was because I entered her with max lives.

Sadly, the lesser amount of tiles in the Makai route prevents this from working there as well. ;_;
For non-Lunatic, the cards / tiles don't fire back (and with no turrets, I have free movement). I should be able to do Stage 19 without bombing  >_>
I ended up with a 91-chain on Easy. Regardless, I got a whole load of lives, even when breaking the chain twice.

Heaven (Makai) route can only be scorewhored to a certain extent.

---

It would be quite strange if I could do Hard (Hell; Jigoku) now, and not Normal (Heaven; Makai).... or would it?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 01, 2009, 11:18:48 PM
Quote
Skip to 4:00, and it will begin soon. It is the name given to Gengetu (LLS extra boss in case you don't know)'s special phase if you try timing out her last attack phase. The name is quite apt.

... ... ... w...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 02, 2009, 12:03:52 AM
... ... ... w...

looks kinda like eternal meek meets scarlet underworld.. or whatever that spell was called.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on June 02, 2009, 02:42:31 AM
Eternal Meek x Pandemonium
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 02, 2009, 03:20:51 AM
I tried that...
I get raped.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 03:32:57 AM
Hee hee, I never get tired of seeing people's reaction to that. Further proof that Gengetu's absolutely STUNNING. <3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Silentsword on June 02, 2009, 03:55:55 AM
Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.

Princess Tenko is considerably harder than Yukari's equivalent (whose name escapes me at the moment...).  The tempo of Princess Tenko accelerates quite a bit over the life of the spellcard, making it increasingly more difficult if you can't pump fire into Ran on a continuous basis.  Yukari's just stays at the same pace the entire time (or speeds up so slowly as to not make a difference), and she provides those convenient lasers to guide your escapes.

12 General Gods is also a bit harder than Yukari's 2d card, but not by much, and it's a different "kind of hard" - 12 General Gods is all about extremely tight maneuvering, while Yukari's is about manipulating her behaviour.  So, in my experience, Marisa finds 12GG a pain and Yukari's cake, while Reimu is...not the reverse, but they're about the same difficulty.

I also find Shikigami Chen harder than Shikigami Ran, but that seems to stem from a personal quirk (Ran's straight lines/diamond pattern are easy and fall within the patterns set by the level.  Chen's "pushes" cause me to dissect the problem differently from all the other spellcards), rather than actual "difficulty" differences



...as for my own personals...clearing Ran and Yukari within a month or two of first picking up Touhou would qualify as the first. 1CCing MoF on Normal, first try, too.  Also, just tonight, capturing 8 of Mokou's cards (missed once on Volcano and again on Possessed) with Magic team...after having been massacred during the actual stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gambit on June 02, 2009, 04:37:58 AM
1cced PCB hard with MarisaA and it surprised me that I actually managed pull it off considering I've never been good with the shot type.

Replay for those interested:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3481

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 06:45:16 AM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3369/sarielgotowned.png)

Well then. I guess that's the end of HRtP! I'm kind of disappointed the Makai route came so easily all of a sudden though...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 02, 2009, 11:04:45 AM
1cc Lunatic HRtP Heaven / Makai Route.
What.

Oh, and a "strange" accomplishment would be finally finding the problem with my PC. Now I can play EoSD without hoping the game doesn't lag constantly.

"Scarlet Meister" at Lunatic, so close...  ;_;
2 more seconds. 2 more bloody seconds. 3rd attempt too.

...though, oddly, I did manage to get "Emerald Megalith"...  >_>
Don't know how either. Maybe I should learn to master these completely garbage Spell Cards. And don't ask for a replay, I used a continue (on max lives) to plow through for the sake of Practice Mode. You'd think I would need more to than one continue to go through on default lives (why else did I push it to max lives?), but nooo... I actually had a decent run.

---

Perfect Stage 4 Normal Pacifist (stage portion only). Attempting to add unfocus to this.
Perfect Normal Satori Battle (ReimuA) Unfocus. Except for DBDB. That is a nightmare to move around unfocused in. I could probably do timeout for this. Not going to try yet though.

EDIT: DBDB is completely garbage on Normal / Hard (as I have mentioned previously).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 02, 2009, 11:50:37 AM
After being in hibernation for the last month or two, I've finally settled an old grudge with MoF Stage 6.  (Who the hell dies on noncard 3 and only noncard 3, anyway?)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3485
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSvfmoEVSOo&fmt=18 (No fancy-schmancy HD for me.)

This just leaves Stage 4 for no death/no bomb Lunatic MoF.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: bjw on June 02, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
After being in hibernation for the last month or two, I've finally settled an old grudge with MoF Stage 6.  (Who the hell dies on noncard 3 and only noncard 3, anyway?)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3485

This just leaves Stage 4 for no death/no bomb Lunatic MoF.

Took you long enough  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: trancehime on June 02, 2009, 12:10:29 PM
Did I post here? No?

I guess I should. Maybe it will give Donut an excuse to get better, since he idolized me at one point >_>

1) 1cc'd Lunatic Makai / Jigoku paths in HRtP
2) 1cc'd Lunatic SoEW with all
3) 1cc'd Lunatic PoDD with all
4) 1cc'd Lunatic LLS with all
5) 1cc'd Lunatic MS with all
6) Survived Gengetsu Rape Time with only 1 death (it was a required suicide for bombs / rank loss, other than that it was complete luckhax)
7) No Missed MS Extra
8) No Missed LLS Extra
9) 1LC Jigoku HRtP Normal
10) 1cc'd Lunatic PoFV
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 02, 2009, 01:22:41 PM
Kind of sad really. I beat 10 spellcards in EoSD extra. But i died a lot to the stage due to accidedents and was therefore unable to to clear the stage. I even died to one of her attacks, you know the easy ones.

Did I post here? No?

I guess I should. Maybe it will give Donut an excuse to get better, since he idolized me at one point >_>

1) 1cc'd Lunatic Makai / Jigoku paths in HRtP
2) 1cc'd Lunatic SoEW with all
3) 1cc'd Lunatic PoDD with all
4) 1cc'd Lunatic LLS with all
5) 1cc'd Lunatic MS with all
6) Survived Gengetsu Rape Time with only 1 death (it was a required suicide for bombs / rank loss, other than that it was complete luckhax)
7) No Missed MS Extra
8) No Missed LLS Extra
9) 1LC Jigoku HRtP Normal
10) 1cc'd Lunatic PoFV

Tread carefully with that. A lot of impressive feats and no replays to back it up as its PC98 almost all of it. You might get accused of bullshitting us.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 02:13:09 PM
._. I knew you've done it, but just seeing it for real...

and Zengeku, Trance has been playing since 2004, so it's totally plausible. It's not like PC-98 has any proof other than recording live/taking screenshots...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 02, 2009, 03:21:35 PM
"Scarlet Meister" at Lunatic, so close...  ;_;
2 more seconds. 2 more bloody seconds. 3rd attempt too.

Bleh. 2 days ago I survived 3 sets (6 waves) of Meister Lunatic, but it still didn't end because Remilia kept moving to the other side of the screen. Then I died.

Also I captured Gensokyo L... except that I had used a bomb at the start 'cos I needed all the power items to reach full power.

These are both accomplishments, they are just not finished accomplishments. Damn it.


Oh and I got the vsync patch for PCB, wow it makes such a huge difference o_o
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on June 02, 2009, 04:41:47 PM
I just cleared LLS extra with Marisa A to unlock the said Gengetu Rape Time.

...

I screamed
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
If anyone ever beats GRT and records it without dying, I will pay them 100 dollars. Somehow.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 02, 2009, 08:00:38 PM
If anyone ever beats GRT and records it without dying, I will pay them 100 dollars. Somehow.

it's only accessable via the final boss of lunatic difficulty something though right? I can't bother to do that on a game I haven't even tried yet >=(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 08:03:21 PM
It's the extra boss's timeout attack (as in you don't normally face it).

Yuka's final attack on lunatic also happens to be the purest form of mind rape, but there's no video of it on Youtube. Basically, Yuka fires solid wall after solid wall with pixel-wide openings in various spots. I've only ever dodged through one wall. Ever.

Hey Trance, you say you know how to do that attack too? HOW?

And Ghaleon, obviously you need to play Lotus Land Story if you haven't already.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 02, 2009, 08:51:12 PM
P.S. It looks much harder when you're playing it than watching it on a video.

And according to Trance, bombing / dying at the start to reduce rank + luck (lots of it) is how he did it.

No miss LLS / MS Extra is entirely plausible; I would be able to do it if it weren't for the goddamn not-so-trivial stages  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on June 02, 2009, 09:54:07 PM
Meh. 1CC IN normal.  Time for extra stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
It doesn't matter how low your rank is, it doesn't change the fact that Yuka's throwing a freaking wall at you. As in, StB scene 5-6 walls. It's actually possible to slip through the bullet walls in 5-6, but hell if it's going to happen often.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 02, 2009, 11:06:08 PM
PoDD Lunatic... it's a quite HARDCORE. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Gpop on June 02, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
I decided to go through my IN replays, when I found my very first IN Extra Stage clear from, like, last year =/.

Just watching it, I remember my heart beating when I finally got to Mokou's final card. Man it was incredibly easy, but my heart couldn't stop.

Also, I noticed that I made quite a few suicide dodges O.O, even now I'm like "wtf why did you do that?"

Anyways, I'll post it here because not only was it my first IN extra clear, IT WAS MY FIRST EXTRA CLEAR IN ANY OF THE TOUHOU GAMES (IaMP not counted).

Replay is here for the curious:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/replays/th8_udGp05.rpy

Man I still love to watch it despite how much I sucked. I still suck though >.<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 02, 2009, 11:15:21 PM
I decided to go through my IN replays, when I found my very first IN Extra Stage clear from, like, last year =/.

Just watching it, I remember my heart beating when I finally got to Mokou's final card. Man it was incredibly easy, but my heart couldn't stop.

Also, I noticed that I made quite a few suicide dodges O.O, even now I'm like "wtf why did you do that?"

Anyways, I'll post it here because not only was it my first IN extra clear, IT WAS MY FIRST EXTRA CLEAR IN ANY OF THE TOUHOU GAMES (IaMP not counted).

Replay is here for the curious:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/replays/th8_udGp05.rpy

Man I still love to watch it despite how much I sucked. I still suck though >.<

while I'm sure you have improved, I bet you're being overcritical as well. Generally from watching replays I notice that I think to myself "why did they dodge THAT way", or whatever.

sometimes I see it in my own videos I've made just 5 minutes ago.
Alot of the time when you are playing you're looking for a safe opening, and your eyes can only notice small gaps within a relatively small area. It's ideal to look above your character than at an equal level. So while watching a replay you might be looking above and to the right, while actually playing you might be looking above and to the left. Or perhaps you're not looking above at all because you had to make a very narrow dodge for your current problem.

It's funny. alot of the time I watch replays of people whom I don't know are very experienced, and I think to myself "I can do better than that", but often it is hard to anyway. yet I'm not overjudging my own skill, bleh.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 11:21:54 PM
Oh, here:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm130747

Skip to about 30:20, and you can see what I'm talking about. There's another video I know, but it uses Marisa, who kills stuff twice as fast as Reimu, and you only see one wave. This shows the true BS nature of the attack.

EDIT: And if you're curious, watch the rest. Other than the text being readable speed (and therefore useless for us English speakers...), it's a run that perfectly embodies what you're in for on LLS lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: trancehime on June 03, 2009, 12:32:45 AM
Yuka's giant freaking walls of doom are... kinda walls of doom.

A flaw is that they're actually not solid. You think they are but they aren't. Just that PC-98 graphics tend to get in the way of things. But it is still extremely hard. I myself spent several months attempting to get that right.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 03, 2009, 12:53:15 AM
The ironic part is that other than her first phase and that the battle is quite easy.

So I was raging over Hell God Sword like usual, when suddenly I channeled Baity and noticed something...

The gist of the card is that Youmu slashes through these bubble bullets, turning them into one huge clusterfuck, right? Well, it hit me that where the bubble bullets are spawned indicates where the clusterfuck is the most clusterfuck, and also the least clusterfuck. Sadly, this fact will not really make it any easier, because the bubble bullets are spawned in the middle on the first wave every time, meaning that everywhere is one huge clusterfuck.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on June 03, 2009, 12:58:47 AM
If anyone ever beats GRT and records it without dying, I will pay them 100 dollars. Somehow.

Really

Someone go hack LLS so that I don't have to go through all of Extra. Or simply give me an invuln switch so I can sit there and do something else while the stage and boss battle runs through.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 03, 2009, 01:59:07 AM
Just beat SA Normal no bomb. I even had three lives left. Woot!!

Problem parts were Satori for some reason. 3 deaths! No reason!

One death Cat Walk. Otherwise, stage 5 was great. First time I've gotten all of Rin's boss cards in one run.

3 deaths Utsuho, and the last one pisses me off. I should have had Hell's Artifical Sun, but I died while it was clearing >.< Pain in the butt.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 03, 2009, 03:31:01 AM
Cleared SA Hard with all shot types. :3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 03, 2009, 04:34:58 AM
cleared MoF extra, yay.. not a pretty run but I had TWO lives at the end instead of 1, gooo me... I believe I capped that jade river spellcard too, don't remember, either I did or I did on my previous failed attempt, doh.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3497
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 03, 2009, 05:49:09 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3498

See, bjw? I told you I would perfect PCB stage 5 lunatic someday. I told you. I TOLD YOU. I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

See, this happened the same way my first Resurrection Butterfly capture happened: By very politely asking Youmu to not run me through this time. She complied. She is so soft.

~

The best part about perfecting this was the fact that due to her time slowing thing, she explodes in slow motion.

And if you want a highlight, please watch this and pay attention to my Hell God Sword capture. I don't know how the hell I made that last dodge. It must have literally been a pixel perfect maneuver. Good thing this vsynch patch exists...

Again. TILDE!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 03, 2009, 07:06:14 AM
Of course, I'm not stopping with MoF Stage 6 just because I have a no death/no bomb run of the stage.  There's one more (incredibly stupid) thing I have to do.  As for now, this is progress:

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th027.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 03, 2009, 07:49:33 AM
...Wait, WTF?

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/4747/wtfyumemi.png)

You never 1cc PoDD normal before...then suddenly you 1LC it. o_O

EDIT: I just 1cc'd PoFV normal to supplement this. I just BARELY 1cc'd, dying about 3 times against Shikieiki. Thankfully my youkai moe won out against her legs and hat.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 03, 2009, 02:15:47 PM
._. I knew you've done it, but just seeing it for real...

and Zengeku, Trance has been playing since 2004, so it's totally plausible. It's not like PC-98 has any proof other than recording live/taking screenshots...

I see. Well, it just sounded kind of fishy and its pretty easy to post a fake accomplishment from the PC98 era.

Oh and i did a 1-death run of MoF Extra. I should have been a 1LC but i messed up at Froggy Braves The Elements. Still a nice run though.


Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on June 03, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
1LC MoF Extra Reimu B, first time I've 1LC'd anything significant. Only failed Moriya's Iron Ring and her two survival cards.

Native v. Central is still insane though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 03, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3506

Perfect PCB stage 3 lunatic.  Easily one of my favorite Touhou stages, if not my favorite overall.  I've been wanting this ever since I started playing on lunatic back in March, so finally getting it makes me really happy. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 03, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3506

Perfect PCB stage 3 lunatic.  Easily one of my favorite Touhou stages, if not my favorite overall.  I've been wanting this ever since I started playing on lunatic back in March, so finally getting it makes me really happy. :D

...Somehow I feel like all you guys are in some big conspiracy to make me feel bad. I finally perfect stage 5 after months of effort, and then you go and do stage 3, which is harder overall. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 04, 2009, 01:57:31 AM
...Somehow I feel like all you guys are in some big conspiracy to make me feel bad. I finally perfect stage 5 after months of effort, and then you go and do stage 3, which is harder overall. :(

Um... I'm sorry. :-[  If it makes you feel better, you're still about 7 lunatic 1ccs and god-knows-how-many spellcard captures ahead of me.

And now I feel like a jerk for mentioning this, but I just cleared SG's extra for the fourth time.  I got to Reimu with freaking max lives and blew three of them away practicing her second phase (I will capture that bloody thing someday damn it).  Despite this, I still managed to beat her 0/0.  Luckily all of her most challenging attacks are in the first half of her fight, so I pulled through.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Noite on June 04, 2009, 02:12:59 AM
1cc'd EOSD Hard with ReimuA, which I sorta took as a joke since my main is MarisaA, managed my bombs really well and finished with 4 lives when I had never even got past remilia's first cards with MarisaA, weird stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 04, 2009, 02:18:30 AM
1cc'd EOSD Hard with ReimuA, which I sorta took as a joke since my main is MarisaA, managed my bombs really well and finished with 4 lives when I had never even got past remilia's first cards with MarisaA, weird stuff.

I firmly believe Reimu A to be the superior choice in EoSD, if only for the stages. The homing makes them so much easier.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 04, 2009, 02:26:56 AM
Stages aren't everything. With enough practice, the help you gain from Reimu's homing becomes insignificant, as every stage is perfectly doable with Marisa A. However, her paltry boss performance does not go away. I know it's not as bad as LLS, where Marisa can literally defeat bosses twice as fast as her homing type, but it still pales in comparison to Marisa.

But then again that's my opinion, and we all know what that amounts to. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 04, 2009, 02:38:04 AM
Stages aren't everything. With enough practice, the help you gain from Reimu's homing becomes insignificant, as every stage is perfectly doable with Marisa A. However, her paltry boss performance does not go away. I know it's not as bad as LLS, where Marisa can literally defeat bosses twice as fast as her homing type, but it still pales in comparison to Marisa.

But then again that's my opinion, and we all know what that amounts to. >_>

shut up noob. Reimu A is better for esod.

Nah seriously, I actually prefer marissa A for most touhous as well, but I still do better with reimu in esod only (except the extra stage). I just find that it helps so much to be able to damage bosses that are CONSTANTLY bouncing away from where I need to dodge 100% if I'm reimu.. only in esod do they move like jerks, sooooo annoying.

only reason why I don't like Reimu for the extra stage is because it's makes royal flare and philosipher's stone sooo hard, in addition, the homing thingies track the bullets for spells like cranberry trap, NOT the boss, very ghey.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 04, 2009, 03:00:04 AM
in addition, the homing thingies track the bullets for spells like cranberry trap, NOT the boss, very ghey.

This.

I also -like- Reimu's slower movement. I can dodge more precisely with it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 04, 2009, 04:29:00 AM
Sumizome Perfect Blossom get. Yeah.
Only one SC to finish easy!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on June 04, 2009, 05:22:36 AM
Since we got the PoFV patch, I've been catching up with the text while seeing how my skills have gotten over time.  Managed to 1cc Normal with Komachi.  The duels against Reimu and Shiki were way too long for my tastes.  The only thing preventing me from actually counting this, though, is the fact that for some reason (maybe it's the tons of Firefox tabs?), there's lurching lag every so often.  Meaning, it drops down to < 50 FPS, sometimes even to < 20 for a second and a half, which sometimes means a hit on my part.

Get the replay here. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3510)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 04, 2009, 05:47:57 AM
This.

I also -like- Reimu's slower movement. I can dodge more precisely with it.

me too actually, that's my big problem with these games is I'm absolutely terrible at moving small amounts. I frequently move more than I i ntend to and run into certain doom when I die. For example on the extra boss in MoF, when she casts long arms and long legs or whatever, I had a really hard time not backing up into the lasers as the bullets were approaching and I had to move back (towards the laser). bleh...and that's as reimu lol.

I try to use marissa as much as I can for alot of the games anyway though because I just know she's flat out better for the very hardest level of content in each game, normally.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 04, 2009, 06:25:33 AM
HELL YES FINALLY

AFTER LIKE A MONTH

IMPERISHABLE NIGHT HARD 1CCCCCCC
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 04, 2009, 06:26:54 AM
me too actually, that's my big problem with these games is I'm absolutely terrible at moving small amounts. I frequently move more than I i ntend to and run into certain doom when I die. For example on the extra boss in MoF, when she casts long arms and long legs or whatever, I had a really hard time not backing up into the lasers as the bullets were approaching and I had to move back (towards the laser). bleh...and that's as reimu lol.

I try to use marissa as much as I can for alot of the games anyway though because I just know she's flat out better for the very hardest level of content in each game, normally.

Sadly, this is far from the case in any game past PCB. From IN on, Marisa is given a ridiculously large hitbox that combines with her fast speed to make your life a living hell should you ever use her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 04, 2009, 06:30:44 AM
Sadly, this is far from the case in any game past PCB. From IN on, Marisa is given a ridiculously large hitbox that combines with her fast speed to make your life a living hell should you ever use her.

Really? I figured she was still the character of choice due to malice cannon.

BTW the hitbox thing appears to be the same size (appearance wise whilst holding focus), is it and I'm just blind? (I havne't looked side by side so to speak). Or is the smaller hitbox just in effect, but not actually represented by the dot.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 04, 2009, 06:36:02 AM
I believe paraphrasing what someone in the past said is best:

Malice cannon doesn't make the magic team broken. It makes them playable.

You may not notice it now, but trust me when I say the difference between Marisa's hitbox in IN/MoF/SA and Reimu's is huge. Add on the fact that in IN Yukari actually does more damage than Alice, the fact that you need to either abuse a bug or position familiars perfectly for Marisa to deal more damage than Reimu B, and the fact that Marisa A needs to fire UNFOCUSED to even deal more damage than Reimu A, and you have a "isn't it sad Marisa? ;_;" scenario.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 04, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
"Mugetu Rape Time" is really fun~

Cleared Survived it, with one of those... one-of-a-kind deaths at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOzPtgzJTV4&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 04, 2009, 08:08:19 AM
She woth only playing with you. Her apron NOT EVEN DROP.

God I love their timeout attacks. They're one big "screw you" for thinking that they're the easiest extra bosses.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: dustyjo on June 04, 2009, 08:39:48 AM
I FINALLY BEAT KANAKO

YES

on easy ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 04, 2009, 08:41:40 AM
I FINALLY BEAT KANAKO

YES

on easy ;_;

ehh. I thought easy only goes up to level 5
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 04, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
WEWT. 1CC'd normal SA.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3512
That was definately harder. I feel as proud as I did when I 1cc'd EoSD (not that it was harder, just my first Touhou game so.. yeah).

Please tell me the extra stage on SA isn't ridiculously harder than the extra stages on other games of the series just like the story =o.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 04, 2009, 08:58:01 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3513

Attempting Rings of Death (use the VSync patch and speed through, or just play it through normally).

After adjusting myself, it looks quite easy.

Expect me to do more attempts at timeout. Maybe I'll put a video up instead.

That's also an IN Clear using Reimu Solo, which is more difficult than it looks. Especially when forcefully suiciding / bombing on the Rings of Death.

---

Please tell me the extra stage on SA isn't ridiculously harder than the extra stages on other games of the series just like the story =o.
See for yourself. Speaking of which, I feel like trying again.

EDIT: Oh hey. And that would've been a "Subterranean Rose" capture if it wasn't for my spacing out. Also, during "Embers of Love", I stop momentarily to pull my chair. See if you can find where!

...and whatever it says in the replay description.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3515
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on June 04, 2009, 10:16:04 AM
Quote
I firmly believe Reimu A to be the superior choice in EoSD, if only for the stages. The homing makes them so much easier.

ReimuA is by far the worst choice for EoSD stages. The stages in EoSD are all very easy once you learn them, even on Lunatic. They are nearly completely trivial, in fact. However, this is only if you can do enough damage to kill the tougher fairies quickly. ReimuA cannot do this, and she suffers from it at the following points:

- Second half of stage three. Still trivializable for ReimuA, but every other character type has a lot more room for error.
- The three fairies immediately before Patchy in stage four. These are essentially impossible for ReimuA without extreme luck or a bomb, but fairly easy for everyone else as long as you use the proper method.
- The "wall" fairies before midboss Sakuya in stage five. ReimuA requires a combination of luck and very quick reading and reaction here. The other shot types trivialize it.

This doesn't sound like a lot, but keep in mind that the second and third points basically require bombing and that Reimu's homing really does very little for her. Unlike, say, IN, EoSD doesn't have weak enemies flying around everywhere covering the screen with death bullets. Instead it relies primarily on forcing the player to stream. A lot. And if you don't learn how to properly stream the stages then you will die regardless of who you are using (see stage four Lunatic). The only time on the stage where ReimuA has a significant advantage is the beginning of stage six on Lunatic, as she kills the enemies on both sides of the screen resulting on much fewer bullets everywhere. But this isn't enough to make up for the difficulties she faces in other places, especially since this section isn't all that hard for the other shot types anyway.

ReimuA shines because she has a very powerful bomb, is well equipped to deal with bosses that move very randomly, and has a relatively easy Patchy battle.

Quote
Attempting Rings of Death timeout

Expect me to do more attempts at timeout. Maybe I'll put a video up instead.

I tried that for a while. I think I got it down to two or three deaths and no bombs. I'd suggest trying it with Alice, as her bomb is so weak that it barely does anything to Mokou's lifebar (Reimu's bomb, especially her deathbomb, can be very problematic here if you don't want the attack to end). The difference in hitbox size doesn't really matter, as the gaps are big, just traveling very fast.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 04, 2009, 10:59:41 AM
I was not satisfied with my lousy 385 mil. score of my Mountain of Faith Hard 1CC so i decided to redo it. To much success. Over 800 million points. Awesome my skill level considered. On the topic of Mountain of Faith i finally took my time to do a Normal 1CC without bombs. I died a horrible lot to stupid things though but regardless. Now i've got that off my chest.

ReimuA is by far the worst choice for EoSD stages. The stages in EoSD are all very easy once you learn them, even on Lunatic. They are nearly completely trivial, in fact. However, this is only if you can do enough damage to kill the tougher fairies quickly.

EoSD have heavy emphasis on learning the stages. I took a spin out of casualty at EoSD Lunatic just playing by the ear dodging the best i could and i only made it to the books of Stage 4 which destroyed me. At that point i had lost a lot of lives. Not too much to the bosses but to the stages as i had no clue as to how to do them. Not stage 1 though. That one is easy and stage 2 is kind of too but from that point on it takes some knowledge. That's how i see it anyway.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 04, 2009, 11:06:59 AM
I tried that for a while. I think I got it down to two or three deaths and no bombs. I'd suggest trying it with Alice, as her bomb is so weak that it barely does anything to Mokou's lifebar (Reimu's bomb, especially her deathbomb, can be very problematic here if you don't want the attack to end). The difference in hitbox size doesn't really matter, as the gaps are big, just traveling very fast.
My deathbombing (or pre-bombing for that matter) is horrid. I really don't see the IN deathbomb window outside of Spell Cards, and the Border Team (or just Reimu / Yukari solo).

Either way, got it down to the 12-second mark, using 2 bombs and 2 (spare) lives [with Alice]. Oddly enough, I believe I can actually read it. Maybe I'm getting used to reading these fast rings. Though, it's nowhere near as fast as the super-phases for LLS Extra (such as the above posted video). Might give Kanako's opening phase at Lunatic another shot to see whether I've truly become better at reading ring patterns.

Though, everything outside of "GRT" is really, rings of bullets added over the base pattern, which can really screw you over. While "GRT" itself is just... lots of rings. Apparently affected by rank too.

---

No good. I can withstand at best 3 seconds of "GRT" (out of invulnerability time). If I'm lucky, it'll be for longer. I can't read the bullet pattern. Maybe I should grind Kanako's opener and time it out first. If I didn't attempt to go for GRT, it would've been a 6 life (5 spare) clear of LLS Extra.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: dustyjo on June 04, 2009, 05:59:44 PM
ehh. I thought easy only goes up to level 5
Only in touhou 6.

I still got the bad ending though
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Easy Mode on June 04, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
I managed to snag one of Bailey's replays. IN Stage 1 on Hard.
I have no idea how to upload them, though...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on June 04, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Quote
Maybe I should grind Kanako's opener and time it out first.

I tried this out once too. One try is all it took to convince me to never try it again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 04, 2009, 07:52:02 PM
Finally captured Ex-Reimu's second phase (the yin-yang/yellow bullet one).  Ironically right now it's the only phase of hers that I've got a good strategy for, other than her loleasy final attack.  My goal now is to actually clear the stage with one or more extra lives, which I've come close to doing but keep making stupid mistakes -_-.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on June 04, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
Well, Timing-out Kanako's opener isn't as hard as Gengetu rape time or Mokou's Ring of Death. I timed it out with one death with 12 seconds remaining (of course i was saved by luck plenty times). The hard part is not to blink at all for 70 seconds.

EDIT : ... my MoF copy ruined every replay i made. No replay. I am very sorry...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 04, 2009, 09:55:18 PM
I tried this out once too. One try is all it took to convince me to never try it again.
Well, Timing-out Kanako's opener isn't as hard as Gengetu rape time or Mokou's Ring of Death. I timed it out with one death with 12 seconds remaining (of course i was saved by luck plenty times). The hard part is not to blink at all for 70 seconds.

EDIT : ... my MoF copy ruined every replay i made. No replay. I am very sorry...
Mm. Surprised that I can actually see the bullets this time. Unlike last week, where all I saw were blurs. Lasted random intervals of time, ranging from 8 seconds to 30 seconds. I can even see the points where I would get hit, and bomb in reaction.

Don't worry about a replay; I'll make one... in due time.

Also, I'm finding Mokou's Rings of Death much easier than Kanako's opener at this point.

EDIT: I found a pattern in Kanako's opener? Checking. Semi-pattern. Not worth noting.

And a 3 death clear. Now I can't read the waves anymore. Guess this would be a good time to stop for now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on June 05, 2009, 01:11:55 AM
I like Kanako's opener. It's like a tongue twister, but for your eyes and brain.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 05, 2009, 02:02:19 AM
Beat SA Hard 1cc! ^^

And it was only the first time I'd gotten to Utsuho too!

It's by no means a clean run. I die twice on Stage two, a couple times on Rin. Like 4 times on Utsuho, and some others somewhere. BUT IT IS DONE FINALLY!!!

And there were no deaths on Satori even ^^
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 05:04:57 AM
I've been getting this strange idea lately...It's called "EoSD lunatic stage 6 no deaths run." With the vsynch patch, Eternal Meek is no longer impossible to capture, and Other than Vampire Illusion screwing me over often I'm actually very consistent with her fight (the result of doing it over 200 times). This is the second run I made it to Scarlet Gensokyo before dying. I actually only had to bomb once on Scarlet Meister, but I had to bomb near the start of Scarlet Gensokyo and had died when she had about 1/5 her health left. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 05, 2009, 07:06:15 AM
I've been getting this strange idea lately...It's called "EoSD lunatic stage 6 no deaths run." With the vsynch patch, Eternal Meek is no longer impossible to capture, and Other than Vampire Illusion screwing me over often I'm actually very consistent with her fight (the result of doing it over 200 times). This is the second run I made it to Scarlet Gensokyo before dying. I actually only had to bomb once on Scarlet Meister, but I had to bomb near the start of Scarlet Gensokyo and had died when she had about 1/5 her health left. D:

I hate you, I want vsync patch for EoTS >=(.. blah I really have to find my windoze CD.

As for accomplishments, I played some EoTS today just for fun...While it's fun cuz it's still probably my fave touhou, it's like nails on a chalkboard cuz it's the only one without the vsync patch, and MAN DOES IT SUCK once you're used to the patch.

Despite the issues with the patch, one of the hardest spellcards in the game for me  (starbrow break), is easy as heck now just cuz I'm so damn used to abusing my hitbox. Instead of panicing I can totally tell if I'm safe or not on that spellcard way in advance by a quick glance up, I'm uber leet >=P... So in case you didn't figure it out I captured it (prob not much of an accomplishment but it sure felt neat given it was like one of the hardest spellcards in the game for me).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
...What's "EoTS" supposed to for? :P

And EoSD totally has a vsynch patch, what are you talking about? It and PCB are the only games that really need them, since the lag in IN is insignificant and you can't notice it unless you try.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 05, 2009, 07:16:46 AM
1cc LLS Hard, with 6 lives remaining. Reimu is ridiculously easier to battle against.

And I have no idea on how to do Yuka's Final Phase.

Going to video it... maybe. If not, then just Stage 4 and / or 6.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl60.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=145&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl61.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=146&u=12803292)

EDIT: I just noticed that Reimu doesn't use Genjii when you fight her. Maybe she's flying already? Well, she does teleport and move around the screen ridiculously fast.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl62.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=147&u=12803292)

EDIT 2: All videos uploaded. Waiting for processing to fully finish before I set them to public.

EDIT 3: Access them through my channel.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:19:57 AM
Really? I've always thought Reimu's much harder than Marisa. I guess there's a difference between hard and lunatic.

Speaking of which, since you beat LLS hard so easily, you should have NO trouble with LLS lunatic... ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 05, 2009, 08:33:24 AM
...What's "EoTS" supposed to for? :P

And EoSD totally has a vsynch patch, what are you talking about? It and PCB are the only games that really need them, since the lag in IN is insignificant and you can't notice it unless you try.

I know you can vsync patch it. but you can't without being able to rename your exe the original japanese name. Which I can't do until I find my windows cd because I don't have Japanese enabled under my languages setting in the control panal (which asks for the cd bleh).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 05, 2009, 12:12:17 PM
Really? I've always thought Reimu's much harder than Marisa. I guess there's a difference between hard and lunatic.

Speaking of which, since you beat LLS hard so easily, you should have NO trouble with LLS lunatic... ;)
It wasn't very easy to do... sort of. However...

...the Rank system is really destroying me on Lunatic. That, and everything, and I mean everything firing snowballs is destroying me  ;_;

I know that most Lunatic modes have this type of feature (things that don't normally shoot, start shooting), but this one is just plain awkward. Tiles? Dodge 'em. Oh wait, snowballs? Elly throws a scythe at you, throws tiles at you, and these tiles throw snowballs. Random Kurumi snowballs too from what I witnessed. Fortunately, I didn't get hit.

Looks like I'll be needing some practice first.

Oh, and Kurumi's 2nd phase at Lunatic at base Rank < the said phase at Hard with max Rank  >_>
Guess that really tells me how difficult it would be at max Rank. I would've experienced it at max Rank, but I died trying to grazewhore the pre-boss wave. Thought I could do the same thing I did for Stage 1.

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All videos uploaded. Waiting for processing to fully finish before I set them to public.

Access them through my channel.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 05, 2009, 03:31:56 PM
1cc'ed LLS Lunatic, Marisa with Laz0rs.

First time seeing Yuka. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 05, 2009, 07:00:06 PM
...What's "EoTS" supposed to for? :P

And EoSD totally has a vsynch patch, what are you talking about? It and PCB are the only games that really need them, since the lag in IN is insignificant and you can't notice it unless you try.

BTW I forgot to mention but I totally notice input lag in all the Touhou's. Sure EoSD and PCB are the worst, but sometimes I launch the game via the regular exe instead of the patch (any of them, IN, MoF, SA), and as soon as I start level one I'll be like EEEK UGH can't take it. It's not like I try.

Kinda funny cuz it didn't really bother me with EoSD to begin with before I tried it for the first time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
1cc'ed LLS Lunatic, Marisa with Laz0rs.

First time seeing Yuka. D:

Congratulations. Now do it with Reimu A. It's not as though Marisa is broken or anything, but the fact is that Reimu plays a completely different lunatic than Marisa. Mainly, the fact that bosses actually get attack phases that last more than 20 seconds. This is likely more due to the fact that ZUN made Reimu A dreadfully underpowered, but...I recommend trying it out with her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 05, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
I'l try that. D:

Anyway... Till now, I just 1cc'ed Lunatic with broken chars... (SakuyaB for PCB, Netherworld Team for IN [are they really broken? Stages are very easy with them], MarisaA for LLS) (not counting PoFV, that I just didn't 1cc Lunatic with Sakuya, Youmu, Tewi and Komachin)


[edit]

LOL
Failed on Yuka's near impossible wall, cause missed on her Lunatic Twin Spark (IT'S BIGGER TT__TT) (yes, when I cleared it with MarisaA, she not unleashed it).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 05, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
Alright, after theorizing attack phases, I've manged to do a few things. Kurumi's 2nd phase scared me into bombing though. And I've finally found a way to deal with Elly's snowball wall. Damn trap. But alas, Max rank slaughters me again... This time, it covered the whole screen (bad streaming directing). Then there's that other walling attack phase. Auto-bomb.

Current Status:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl64.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=149&u=12803292)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl65.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=150&u=12803292)
...Balls. Very tight gaps. Extra surprised. And the stage, I died with 3 bombs in stock.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl66.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=151&u=12803292)
I hear it's amazing when you die on the pre-boss waves. Like really, I clipped a small bullet, and lost a life. Now I have 2 lives. 3 bombs against Yuka.

...donut, give me strength...
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl67.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=152&u=12803292)
Died with bombs in stock again. First phase, I misread a wave. That probably would've been a 1cc if I didn't die with bombs in stock the 2nd time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 10:51:32 PM
What's to analyze on the bullet walls Elly makes? Maneuver through the first one and dash unfocused to get above the second one. Considering I perfected Elly on max rank (not intentionally; I was out of bombs from the midboss on. >.>), it can't be that hard.

And the stage 4 preboss spam is an autobomb if you can't remember where to start (and I never do >_>) and I've given the stage 5 preboss spam the name "PC-98 books", so don't worry about that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 05, 2009, 10:59:24 PM
What's to analyze on the bullet walls Elly makes? Maneuver through the first one and dash unfocused to get above the second one. Considering I perfected Elly on max rank (not intentionally; I was out of bombs from the midboss on. >.>), it can't be that hard.
The first one can be avoided easily. Even at max rank. Dashing unfocused wasn't enough (even with Marisa) for the 2nd one  >_>
Due to bad placement.

And the stage 4 preboss spam is an autobomb if you can't remember where to start (and I never do >_>) and I've given the stage 5 preboss spam the name "PC-98 books", so don't worry about that.
Stage 4 pre-boss is an auto-bomb for me during this run due to my horrible placement.

Stage 5 pre-boss was an auto-bomb. Well, more like I had to die with 0 bombs in stock, then use a bomb because I got trapped again with the last set of circles.

The 2nd last screenshot is the Stage 6 pre-boss. With the sunflowers and ridiculously easy rings. Yes, I die there with bombs in stock  >_>

Looks like I have all the necessary information regarding the stages, and bosses. I'll be doing a recording again. Might not upload immediately though.

Oh, and Reimu wasn't that bad. Only surprising.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, the Stage 3 midboss and Stage 4 midbosses are complete garbage. The Stage 3 one more.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 11:08:01 PM
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The first one can be avoided easily. Even at max rank. Dashing unfocused wasn't enough (even with Marisa) for the 2nd one  >_>
Due to bad placement.

I beg to differ. You must simply start closer to the destination.

I always bomb the stage 3 midboss. Not necessarily because he's hard (I always bomb the same spot so I don't even know...), but because after getting through the first two stages it's not really worth it.

If you really want to put your spell card theory business to good use, please analyze the stage 4 midboss' first attack. I believe it is partially an aimed attack, but I am not sure.

And ... at dying to the stage 6 preboss spam. I have never faced that for one simple reason: You're given a full power item that always nullifies it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 05, 2009, 11:19:01 PM
If you really want to put your spell card theory business to good use, please analyze the stage 4 midboss' first attack. I believe it is partially an aimed attack, but I am not sure.
k. Though, I seriously think that it's just random spray being fired diagonally towards the center of the screen. Going to analyze my Stage 4 video before I try, so I can position myself in another major area.

EDIT: Safespot in the effing corner... provided my current assumption holds true. BAWWWWWW. Null'd

EDIT 2: Though, to do it legitimately, it's just raw dodging. However, I do know the optimal position to do this...
And ... at dying to the stage 6 preboss spam. I have never faced that for one simple reason: You're given a full power item that always nullifies it.
Just a bit before that. Like, 10 seconds.
Actually, lemme get a screenshot at its equivalent point for Hard:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl68.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=154&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 06, 2009, 12:54:18 AM
Double post, because of this:

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl69.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=155&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl70.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=156&u=12803292)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl71.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=157&u=12803292)

Thank you donut for giving me the tip for Elly's seemingly impossible first wall. Staying closer actually helped me swing around the wall at max Rank.

Bombed Stage 5 pre-boss waves twice. 2 lives lost to Reimu. Died on Stage 4 twice more, one with 3 bombs in stock, the other with 2 to the mid-boss (2nd).

The Stage 4 mid-boss's first wave is "aimed" at your position at the time of firing. It does not "trace" you around, so you can move to the side, where it will be obviously less dense, and dodge from there. However, it is still quite a pain to weave through it. I managed to do it once during the same run, and died to it the 2nd time (2 mid-bosses).

Stage 3 mid-boss? Bomb... Like really, random movement blows, especially when he's close to the bottom of the screen, and in the center. Moving up to the top doesn't help, since the mid-boss will move back up, and also the fact that I deal no damage while being above.

And Kurumi's 2nd phase... almost got it. Misread a circle and got an impeding bullet. Because I knew I was going to get hit (I can predict strange things like that, and yet not the fundamentals) I deathbombed.

Also, I survived the double spark by standing in between the two sparks. Really, really close call. I should get a screenshot of it from the video, which I probably won't upload because it's so bad.
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Going through with ReimuA once I regain my stamina.

And is MarisaA > MarisaB in terms of raw damage (to bosses)?

EDIT: for awesomeness.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl74.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=160&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 06, 2009, 01:10:10 AM
No no, please upload it. There does not exist a single lunatic run of LLS on Youtube, so even if it's embarrassing you're doing people who don't have a Nicovideo account a favor. Good job BTW~

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The Stage 4 mid-boss's first wave is "aimed" at your position at the time of firing. It does not "trace" you around, so you can move to the side, where it will be obviously less dense, and dodge from there. However, it is still quite a pain to weave through it. I managed to do it once during the same run, and died to it the 2nd time (2 mid-bosses).

I see...I'll try this next time.

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Also, I survived the double spark by standing in between the two sparks. Really, really close call. I should get a screenshot of it from the video, which I probably won't upload because it's so bad.

I've done that before. It's pretty awesome.

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And is MarisaA > MarisaB in terms of raw damage (to bosses)?

Don't know. I do know that Marisa A does a freakish amount of damage, but I don't usually use Marisa B for some arbitrary reason.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 06, 2009, 01:17:40 AM
How do you get the patch to work, anyways? The only thing I can do is launch the game using the correct dll, but I'm not sure if that does much of anything and it ignores my score.dat file.

cirno meme goes here
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 06, 2009, 02:47:53 AM
I just managed my second PoFV normal 1cc. I may not care for the Prismriver sisters, but Lyrica's not bad in this game at all~

EDIT because I'm cool like that: Ah~ I just played PCB stage 5. You know, the one I perfected? I died 6 times. But I don't care. When I get the conviction to do something, it's a double edged sword: I become determined to complete the goal, yeah, but it means that until I do every time playing that stage or that spell card becomes work. It was the same with Scarlet Meister, and it was the same for Q.E.D. I can finally have fun again on this stage~

And so I actually have an accomplishment, I captured Youmu's midboss opener. Now that I've got the ultimate achievement of this stage out of the way, it's high time I learn how to deal with these attacks the intended way.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 06, 2009, 03:34:04 AM
LLS Lunatic 1cc ReimuA.

Please wait while I update. Also, I die with bombs in stock. Several times. Come out with one spare, and also conclude Marisa is easier to fight against than Reimu.

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(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl75.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=161&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl76.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=162&u=12803292)

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/llslr10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=163&u=12803292)
<3

The video overall is much better, except for dying with bombs (not uploaded yet).

Stage 3 Midboss done perfectly. Probably just lucky though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 06, 2009, 07:50:02 AM
So I decide to screw around PCB Extra for the lulz. The result? Captured both Blue Oni Red Oni and Wizard Fox Thoughts.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 06, 2009, 07:54:46 AM
No offense, but you can't really call capturing Wizard Fox Thoughts an accomplishment, being one of the easiest spell cards in the series and whatnot. Blue Oni Red Oni's a noteworthy achievement though.

Also I did a casual run of LLS lunatic and 1cc'd 1/1. I actually only needed two bombs on Yuka's final phase this time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 06, 2009, 08:49:40 AM
Also I did a casual run of LLS lunatic and 1cc'd 1/1. I actually only needed two bombs on Yuka's final phase this time.
For the record, both of my 1cc's had used 1 life + 2 bombs.

Both have the 2nd bomb used as the phase is clearing. That basically tells you how much I suck at the phase  ;_; (or rather, need more practice on it).

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Looking through my video, I can see that I did pretty well against Marisa, losing only 1 life + 2 bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 06, 2009, 02:40:39 PM
Many weeks have passed since my first and only EoSD extra clear, so I thought: "Let's do it again!".

After some tries, I did a second clear. Even though I died many stupid death (on the stage even) with two or more bombs in stock (I suck at bombing, especially in the games where I cannot see the hitbox), I managed to capture all spells in the stage I didn't capture previously, including "Maze of Love", "Counter Clock" and "And Then There Will Be None", except for her Ripples, on which I died 1 second before she exploded. The latter could also be a rage moment, but as I actually did so well on the card up to then it is more of an accomplishment, really.  8)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
Oh...
I 1cc'ed LLS Lunatic with ReimuA.
Well, the run was bad (worse than the last one), died many times with bomb in stock, but I managed to beat Yuka with 2 lives and 2 bombs. At the opener phase, bombed the first yellow shots and died on the bullet spam (that one with pink and white shots) with one bomb in stock. Bombed the first clone phase and died for the spinning pattern of blue shot at her second to last phase. Used the two last bombs at the walls (actually, I passed through the first wall -low rank, it was really easy-). 0/0 at the end. =P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sen on June 06, 2009, 06:09:07 PM
AHAHA, MEDICINE TOTALLY DESTROYS PoFV
After trying the PoFV English patch, I decided to try out Lunatic with Medicine on a whim (note that I can barely 1cc the game with Yuka). Got Shiki down to her last half-dot before dieing in the end~

Seriously Medicine is so broken it's not even funny D:



Other accomplishments...well...(all 1cc's are on Normal, I'm not good enough for HARD MODO).
-1cc EoSD with ReimuB and MarisaA. MarisaA 1cc is so much harder oh god why ;_;
It's weird though, I can't beat Flandre with Reimu yet I've beaten her with Marisa several times. Also scorerunning EoSD with MarisaA!

-PCB, 1cc'd with ReimuB, MarisaA, and SakuyaB. Also cleared Extra with all of them several times each, currently working on a Phantasm clear with SakuyaB. I'm pretty close, I've gotten to Yukari's second-last card a few times now...SakuyaB is so broken~

-IN, 1cc'd and cleared Extra with all teams (no Solos). Working on Last Words right now, I've managed to beat Wriggle, Mystia, Keine, Tei, Eirin, Sakuya, Yuyuko, and Yukari. I'm particularly proud of the Yukari replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3277), since it's no-focus and supergrazed. Could have made it to six thousand graze, but I chickened out at the end. ):

-PoFV is hard oh god why ;_;. I've only 1cc'd it twice, Yuka and Medicine (SO BROKEN~) on Normal. I'm trying Reisen and Cirno 1ccs, but Sakuya massacres me every time. D:

-MoF, I have nothing to say. I don't like MoF very much ):

-And same for SA! Although I actually like SA! I'm just not good at it. ;_;
I've come extremely close to 1ccing the game with ReimuA and MarisaB. I also CHEATED AHAHA~ and downloaded a score.DAT with Extra unlocked for all characters sans MarisaB. I've gotten to the last phase of Koishi's last card in Extra with ReimuA, but haven't beaten her yet. Stupid [Genetics of the Subconscious]. ):


Waiting for UFO~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 06, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
MS Lunatic + Stage 1 + Max Spirit Gauge = Really difficult

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl77.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=165&u=12803292)

Lurking around the "PoC" for 80% of the time.

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Perfect run on Alice for all the "timeout" phases with the "void". Unfortunately, it wasn't a fully perfect battle.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 07, 2009, 02:34:51 AM
Perfect run on Alice for all the "timeout" phases with the "void". Unfortunately, it wasn't a fully perfect battle.

*giggles* You consider this an accomplishment? How should I put this...next time, try beating her void phases pacifist.

Then try to avoid screaming and punching the screen in as you realize your stupidity.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 07, 2009, 03:03:22 AM
"Void" is that reflector?
lol

Alice is quite easy even at Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 07, 2009, 04:13:11 AM
IN the following order.

1cced IN hard.

Beat IN Extra and got Imperishable Shooting (though I died horribly on it).

Captured Q.E.D after a perfect run of the stage. First death was on Maze of Love (I still have no idea how to run the maze.)

It was a good Friday ^^
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 07, 2009, 04:35:31 AM
*giggles* You consider this an accomplishment? How should I put this...next time, try beating her void phases pacifist.
"Void" is that reflector?
lol

Alice is quite easy even at Lunatic.
...
*tests*
...
How did I not see this? Very interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 07, 2009, 04:56:47 AM
And that's a 1cc of PCB Hard.

That just leaves MoF Hard, and then it's time to start doing Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 07, 2009, 10:36:47 AM
I am well on the way to MS Lunatic 1cc. Now if it weren't for the ridiculous factor of Shinki's opening (am I doing something wrong?), and  DYING with bombs in stock on the stages... The flower-like burst is killing me 1-in-5 times.

Here's a screenshot of a 400 Extend! For the record, bombing should only be done for getting extra Point Items if there are a lot of Point Items on the screen. Otherwise, they turn into [P]'s. 1 bomb was used on Stage 6, but it was unnecessary for Point Item obtaining. So yes, it's entirely possible to get ~400 Point Items before fighting Shinki (I've had many cases of 396-399). Just probably not with Yuka.

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl81.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=169&u=12803292)

Yumeko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QYIwJM5rT0).

Yet Another Stupid Death for the green "walls". I was trying something new. The phase with the side knives also contains Yet Another Stupid Death. Panicking is great. Apart from that, there you go. Plain and simple. Why do I always do something wrong?  ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 07, 2009, 05:33:07 PM
Wow...I'm speechless. I've NEVER handled all 4 of Yumeko's macro-dodging streaming phases with only one bomb. Good job. You make it look too easy because you only showcase once how if your timing is even the slightest bit off you get walled in. ;_;

Also I've never seriously used Reimu in this game before. Mima and Yuka are the only two I use, and sadly Yuka's too slow to be of use above normal (she's <3 for extra though).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 08, 2009, 12:00:18 AM
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3545)

HA HA HAAAA. TAKE THAT YUYUKO. (a no deaths/bombs - borders broken though - Yuyuko fight until Sumizome)

And... TAKE THAT PCB LUNATIC! WOOOOOO!

Despite a frightening and composure crushing series of failures on the Prismrivers - almost making me revert to the same state of mind I was in earlier today (abject despair) - I still manage to finish with plenty of lives to spare: enough that I didn't mind giving Ressurection Butterfly a chance - I did very well at it actually, died once and I think I bombed a border or something... well whatever, I dodged far more red waves than I usually do.

It really shows how shitty the runs of the past few days have been, that the first run I 1cc ends with 4 lives (would have been 6 if I had still been trying to survive rather than capture/semi capture).

edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on June 08, 2009, 12:05:55 AM
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3545)



edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)
I'm sure he could do it.

He did a perfect Stage 5 SA lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 08, 2009, 12:11:00 AM
edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)

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6.  Kefit        -   706,150,590 - C - 0.0% - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=1218) (No Bomb)
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Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2009, 12:22:11 AM
Kefit did that a few weeks after SA came out, lol.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on June 08, 2009, 12:36:31 AM
Yeah, Kefit did that long before me.

It was my second one, even. It's actually not that difficult, because SA is all about learning patterns, doesn't have any real bullshit, and gives you a ton of lives to work with. I was actually trying for a no-death clear (I've been for a few weeks now), which is theoretically even easier, but I keep forgetting to bomb when I have to. :(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 08, 2009, 12:38:49 AM
?

I stand corrected. Please excuse my ignorance~
(what was it that he gave up on because of stage 5 SA? a capturing run or something)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 08, 2009, 06:38:53 AM
I just 1 cc'd normal phantasmogria of flower view or whatever it's called with the night sparrow character (who isn't considered overpowered I hope?). Then when I went to save my reply, the game crashed..and the replay didn't save.. Anybody else experience this? is it possibly a translation patch glitch? *cries*.. I feel pretty proud, it's not easy!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 08, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
In a bombless SA 1cc attempt, captured all of Orin's attacks (across all three stages) except Ghost Wheels.  Stupid miss on that card aside (I basically sat and let the bullet hit me, because I thought it was going to graze me), it's definitely an improvement over instafailing Catwalk, Possessed Fairy, and Small Demon's Revival.

Run went to shit after Stage 6 Orin though.  Died twice between her and Utsuho somehow, and lost my final life to Nuclear Reaction.  I think pulling this off is looking promising though, considering the two fail deaths in Stage 6 and a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off.  I've been trying for bombless MoF 1ccs in the past, but I think I'm going to shift my focus toward doing it in SA.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 08, 2009, 08:32:39 AM
MS:

-Perfect Luize battle. Where clipdeaths happen the most.
-Perfect Alice battle. That opener can force me to bomb, if only by probability.
-Perfect Yuki & Mai battle. No surprises here.
-Perfect Yuki battle. Raw dodging at its best for 80% of the time. The other 20% is not-so-basic streaming.
-Perfect Mai battle. I theorized, and looked at my replay frame by frame. Figured out what to do.
-Perfect Yumeko battle. I wish.

---

Over several runs, so still no 1cc yet. Dying with bombs in stock is a really great way to 1cc I hear.

(what was it that he gave up on because of stage 5 SA? a capturing run or something)
Perfect run for Stages 1-3, losing 2 lives to Stage 4. Made it through Stage 5 on his last life. It looked quite hopeless.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on June 08, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
Run went to shit after Stage 6 Orin though.  Died twice between her and Utsuho somehow, and lost my final life to Nuclear Reaction.  I think pulling this off is looking promising though, considering the two fail deaths in Stage 6 and a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off.  I've been trying for bombless MoF 1ccs in the past, but I think I'm going to shift my focus toward doing it in SA.

Bombless SA is infinitely easier to do than bombless MoF, and I really recommend going for it instead of MoF.

In my SA run I die three times on stage five before the midboss, and another three times on ghost wheels, and I still pull it off. MoF, on the other hand, is probably one of the hardest games to do bombless. My bombless run on that is one of my only accomplishments that I really don't think I could do again. SA no bombs took something like two tries once I had the stages worked out. Even without bombs the margin of error in SA is huge due to how many lives are handed out.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 08, 2009, 09:49:32 AM
a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off.

Oh yeah, I remember why I just "shrugged it off".  Because SA has the worst. fucking. Stage. 1. ever.  I have about 80 attempts of Well Bucket, and about 20 of Spider's Nest.  That's 75% of my Stage 1 runs getting rejected between the second half of the stage and Yamame's opener.  That's far too high.

Edit: Yay!  I actually get through the second half of the stage without getting owned by the ADHD fairies or Yamame's opener and I die to Yamame's second card.

I think this is God Suwako telling me to study for my calc final in four hours.  I'm done for tonight.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 08, 2009, 01:56:04 PM
Yep. SA is a life-fest. Even if you died at Stage 1 there wouldn't be much reason to restart if you've got the stages worked out and aren't going for big score. Its sort of like the opposite of Mountain of Faith where you have an almost infinite amount of super-powerful bombs.

As for an accomplishment. Could someone here explain how in the world unlocking Marisa's last word would ever be considered a challenge? Beating Hard mode + FinalB with Reimu Solo. You don't have to use default lives and with all those lives i'd almost say there is lives enough to bomb-spam everything. Its nice to have that one though because with that, i also unlocked Yukari's Last Word. If i can capture that, i should certainly be able to do it at the end of a Phantasm run and that's a conclusion i want to such a run.

Then i had a perfect Sakuya battle in EoSD on Hard as well as an almost perfect run of Stage 4 and perfect runs of Stage 1-3. I guess its time to redo my EoSD Hard clear.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 08, 2009, 05:40:24 PM
Oh... 1cc'ed IN Lunatic with Magic Team.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 08, 2009, 07:13:09 PM
I tried my hand at Alice in MS Extra. I died twice to the mid boss and overall the stage fared like crap. Then i made it to Alice with 1 life left and with it i made it to the phase where she starts sweeping the screen with a laser. That made the emulator glitch completely out. I couldn't tell where anything was.

Reminds me of something else that occured. I randomly tried out LLS Extra. Made it to Gengetu and died there.

Then again. Its just PC98 so i don't wanna play it again!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kefit on June 08, 2009, 07:44:39 PM
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Could someone here explain how in the world unlocking Marisa's last word would ever be considered a challenge?

It's significantly more difficult than all the other Last Word requirements, which generally don't require anything more difficult than Normal level play to unlock.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2009, 07:57:10 PM
I did a 12 spell card capture run of IN extra here at school again. However, it was NOT satisfying because a derp mistake on Fujiyama Volcano caused the dreaded chain death to start. I also died on the death fairy with full bombs. D: I DID nearly beat the rings of doom, and if I were using Alice I probably would have beaten it.

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 09, 2009, 01:49:31 AM
And now a 1cc IN Lunatic with Border Team.
Now, I have to do it with Scarlet Team.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on June 09, 2009, 01:58:53 AM
Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.

Safespot too cheap for you?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 09, 2009, 02:12:02 AM
I did a 12 spell card capture run of IN extra here at school again. However, it was NOT satisfying because a derp mistake on Fujiyama Volcano caused the dreaded chain death to start. I also died on the death fairy with full bombs. D: I DID nearly beat the rings of doom, and if I were using Alice I probably would have beaten it.

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.
IIRC, left, right, left left, right.  I'll try it again later.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 09, 2009, 02:28:21 AM
Safespot too cheap for you?

Yes actually.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 09, 2009, 02:31:46 AM
Safespot too cheap for you?
Safespot? Where?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 09, 2009, 02:50:02 AM
Safespot? Where?
Death Fairy of IN Extra. For Border Team/Reimu/Yukari only. Exactly the bottom left corner.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 09, 2009, 03:46:32 AM
I sometimes try to circle the fairy. It's not that hard and works for all teams...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on June 09, 2009, 04:05:33 AM
Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.
Protip: Check Kefit's videos first, they generally hold the answers to your questions. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhklegJN7dY)

This pattern is very simple to dodge and infinitely repeating, moreover this strat works for all teams.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 09, 2009, 04:08:51 AM
I've known about that video since before I even beat Mokou, but it doesn't really help me. I'm the type of person who learns much better from written instruction.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 09, 2009, 08:28:43 AM
Wewt, SA extra stage clear. Glad I got that out of the way. Worst extra stage ever imo. Seems long and tedious..and and.. even after you learn how to do it it's still unfair sometimes. Kinda like esod's extra stage but at least with esod the hard part is near the beginning so no biggie if you need to reset.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3560

Not a very clean video. It's the kinda run that I was doing bad enough to almost want to reset but I didn't just so I can get more practice in on the boss and I was getting annoyed at re-clearing the @#@%#ing stage.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 09, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
EoSD Hard 1cc! With the added bonus of capturing Scarlet Gensokyo at the end.  8)

And, again, it went from failing at stage 4 to a 1cc with three lives left.
Okay, the 6 hours of sleep in between may have something to do with that.

I think I have uncovered why I sometimes go from miserably failing to beating with several extra lives. I suck at bombing. Dying with bombs in stock is not the exception but the rule. The succesrate doubles once I start to use bombs more proactively. Especially with the short death bomb timer of EoSDand the absence of a clearly visible hitbox, it does not suffice to press the bomb key when I notice that I am screwed, the delay between me noticing it and my finger having initialized the bombing will be lethal. I have to bomb any time when I am not 100% confident that I will make it.

So, that leaves PCB, SA, LLS, MS and tHRtP to 1cc on hard. (I fail too hard on the vs. shooters and SoEW is... well... let's say I don't like it.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 09, 2009, 01:57:57 PM
SoEW may suck, but personally I believe it should be beaten simply for completion's sake. I'm honestly surprised I'm one of the only people to have beaten it, because it is the easiest lunatic in the series by far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 09, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
Yeah, it really is.

Just bomb bomb bomb bomb and bomb some more.

Everything that isn't impossible is easy.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 09, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
SoEW may suck, but personally I believe it should be beaten simply for completion's sake. I'm honestly surprised I'm one of the only people to have beaten it, because it is the easiest lunatic in the series by far.

Playing a crappy game because you feel obligated to is just silly.  I'd rather play and enjoy the games that I like instead of forcing myself through a bunch of crap just to say I beat everything.  Hell, I haven't even captured half the cards in IN or 1cced MoF on any difficulty above normal simply because I don't feel like doing it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 09, 2009, 04:47:41 PM
SoEW should be buried in a lake.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 09, 2009, 05:00:35 PM
Game overed at Virtue of Wind Goddamnit.  If not for the absolutely horrible and BS death on Lady Ohgane's Fire with 4.25 power, that would have been a Lunatic 1cc.  There were a lot of deaths with one or two power, and Sanae was really ugly (did you know her third noncard actually can wall you?) but I can feel it, I'm so close!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 09, 2009, 06:25:57 PM
Playing a crappy game because you feel obligated to is just silly.  I'd rather play and enjoy the games that I like instead of forcing myself through a bunch of crap just to say I beat everything.  Hell, I haven't even captured half the cards in IN or 1cced MoF on any difficulty above normal simply because I don't feel like doing it.

Well, that's just me. But come on, it's not difficult at all, and you only have to do it once. My last hard mode run (which is identical to lunatic except that enemies don't shoot aimed bullets upon death BTW) had me playing until Marisa only dying once, and the death was a suicide on the midboss because I already had max lives. >.>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 09, 2009, 07:36:15 PM
I actually beat SoEW on normal, to unlock the extra. After I learned to live with the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game), I managed to beat it...

...and raged as I noticed that you have to beat the game with all shot types to unlock extra. I then beat the game with the other shot types. It was not quite worth it....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 09, 2009, 07:39:17 PM
SA Extra cleared without bombing.

I clear it with no lives, because I screw up both hearts, Genetics, and Subterranean Rose... and Polygraph.  There's no excuse for that last one.

Still, I'm pretty pleased with this.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 09, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
I actually beat SoEW on normal, to unlock the extra. After I learned to live with the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game), I managed to beat it...

...and raged as I noticed that you have to beat the game with all shot types to unlock extra. I then beat the game with the other shot types. It was not quite worth it....
Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 09, 2009, 07:45:21 PM
Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?

I imagine you have to complete the game on normal with all 12 characters. I've successfully 1cc'd it now with 3 characters (2 of them overpowered, aya and uhh. slow down cloud lady), but no luck. Only character I have yet to beat it with is sunflower lady. I guess I can do that now to check but I'm kinda bored of story mode, played it like 8 times just 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 09, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
You have to beat the story mode with all chars, from Reimu to Yuuka. Then, Extra will be unlocked only for Komachi. Beat it, and it you'll unlock Sikieiki for it.
After beat Extra with Sikieiki, Story and Extra Mode will be unlocked for all chars. Also, Merlin and Lunasa are unlocked for Match Mode.



Oh...
MS Lunatic 1cc. Mima pwns.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 09, 2009, 07:53:43 PM
and you only have to do it once.

the unfair stuff (as in, the stuff that will kill you no matter what if you don't know what happens next, which, in my opinion, happens quite alot in that game)

I agree with the second statement, which nullifies the first.  Totally unfair to die because an enemy spawned where you are at the bottom of the screen (LLS at least has the courtesy to have a "danger" marker when it happens), and you have to know where it happens to avoid it.





Speaking of which, how do you unlock PoFV Extra?

I imagine you have to complete the game on normal with all 12 characters.

According to the Touhou wiki (http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View:_Miscellaneous), you can do it on any difficulty.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 09, 2009, 10:48:30 PM
Getting hit by enemies in SoEW is just as uncommon as any other game. The only exception is the last part of stage 3 on lunatic, because the bouncy balls both fire so many bullets that it's very hard to avoid and if you don't shoot them you're gonna get balled. Let's actually count the amount of times an impossible (to my knowledge) situation occurs:

The green bullet spam from the Magic Stones. Given enough time I may discover an opening if any, but I don't see any right now.

Mima's fourthish orb (forget the name) attack where they spin outward and spawn bullets. They begin firing so soon you barely have time to react and move so fast that they'll likely hit you if you try to move past them. I actually did it by luck once though.

Mima's bouncing star phase is the only 100% impossible attack I see in the game. Given your large hitbox and lack of ability to focus, it is virtually impossible to maneuver. Knowing Touhou it's probably some trick, but no replay I've seen can dodge it either.

Mima's final phase's third attack where she spams large bullets in a pattern. This is BS mostly due to the bullets. The bullets actually have hitboxes larger than the bullets, meaning that this attack requires pixel perfect maneuvering to dodge...without focus.

Other than that, everything is reasonably possible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 10, 2009, 12:11:34 AM
Marisa is dumb enough to warrant tons of bombs though. Going through her orbs is REALLY hard and stupid.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 10, 2009, 12:16:11 AM
It's kind of like what I hear Mushihimesama is like (well...not really :V). The game itself is pretty much filler until the final boss or so, where you need to pump all your resources in to beat. Marisa from legitimate (as far as SoEW goes anyway) difficulty and Mima from her few autobomb attacks and attacks that rely on the game's poor design to be difficult.

I'm not trying to defend SoEW BTW; I agree it's a chore to play. However, it's not near as terrible as people say in terms of BS (which considering how much IS in the game, says a lot :V)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Time Traveler on June 10, 2009, 01:41:49 AM
I tried playing EoSD Hard for the first time today, and somehow managed to 1cc it with 2 lives left on that very same first attempt. I guess all that time spent 1ccing SA Normal was worth it. :P
Replay file: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3564 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3564)
There was a bunch of lag at the end of some spellcards (argh vista), but the only time the game actually slowed down in the middle of an attack pattern was against Remilia's second spellcard, which was the only reason I managed to capture it... but, hey, I would have 1cced it anyway even without the lag.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 10, 2009, 03:08:34 AM
I located my windows xp cd finally, so I promptly installed the japanese input, and got the vsync patch going for EoSD. I did absolutely fantastic for me Imo. I only had 2 lives left at the end, but I captured all but the last 2 of Flandre's spellcards. And 2 of my deaths at the end were caused by fingers sweating too much (partially cuz I was excited at how good I was doing, partially due to summer heat), and making me to stupid crap (if you watch it, you'll believe me I promise lol).

I also only used 3 bombs on Flandre the whole run (1 on each of the last 2 spellcards.. uhh.. 1 on some noncard I believe). So I feel pretty proud.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3565

Playing all the other Touhou's has improved my skill so much since I did EoSD. Starbrow break for example is no longer OMFG AAAHH IMMA DIEEE.. It's so strange. I can do maze of love too, and and, catatropiotic or however the hoot you spell it isn't so scary anymore. Cranberry trap seemed easy for the most part. But I admit I had one helluva bs wtf was that dodge going on there that will make you shout "HAX!"

If I practice I can probably accomplish a no bomb run within a day or two. But maybe later.

I must beat all lunatics within a year >=P (more like 11 months now though).

doh I said 5 bombs on flandre the replay listing. It was 3, I used 2 more on Patchy though (Should have capped silent selene, blah. so close).

I STILL can't quite figure out how people cap philosipher's stone reliably though. I keep hearing to move down as little as possible to avoid the black bullets on the right, and the (I think) blue ones on the left, but the red bullets from the middle always aim right at me so I have to move side to side too (which screws up the angle for one of the side bullets), but worst of all are the green ones on the right, Not only do they aim at me, I swear they follow me around >=P (I know they really don't but they are the worst).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 10, 2009, 03:39:27 AM
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Cranberry trap seemed easy for the most part. But I admit I had one helluva bs wtf was that dodge going on there that will make you shout "HAX!"

This is why I love Cranberry trap. Even when it kills me, I can always think of the fun times had making ridiculous dodges.

Also, EoSD Extra no bombs.get();
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 10, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
I JUST PERFECTED THE STAGE PORTION OF IN EXTRA STAGE.

I'M 5/3 ON MOKOU. :DDDDD

I might beat her this time. :V

I'm on the 4th nonspell with 5/1. This is amazing.

6/1 at 5th nonspell. I'm doing wonderfully.

6/0 at HMD, the 5th nonspell is hard so yeah.

Captured Mokou's 6th nonspell (the first rings), at Woo with 6/0

Fail on Woo. 7th nonspell with 5/2. Not bad still.

Captured 7th nonspell! 5/2 at phoenix tail.

5/0 on RoD oh god no

And then I proceed to do fucking horrible on FV. 2/2 on PbP

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 10, 2009, 10:09:10 PM
inb4epic
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 10, 2009, 10:11:27 PM
##Rings of Death

Alright, so I (attempted) to stall Yuki+Mai.

Nasty. And I accidentally bombed... Which meant I dealt damage. Mai exploded shortly after 1 bomb.

...I'm going to try this again.

EDIT: Also, shooting Alice from behind the mirror (now that I know what it is). Fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 10, 2009, 10:20:57 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS EBAT MOEKTFOUIN 1!1!!!!

ONE DB ONE DEATH ON HOURAI DOLL WITH 112 POWER NOT BAD YES

2ND EXTRA CLEAR AND STUFF


Replay here (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3574)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 11, 2009, 12:48:38 AM
1 bomb clear Stage 4 (stage portion only) MS Lunatic.

...ignoring the embarrassing death that is; clipped by a snowball trying to scorewhore from the PoC.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 11, 2009, 01:20:48 AM
I did the time-out for Mai and Yuki battle.
As I imagined, Yuki came (I believe it's because she is the bossA).
And figured out something... Yuki+Mai's every phases less the last one is timing out...
What does not matter, cause you still cutting down their HP.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Heartbeam on June 11, 2009, 01:46:19 AM
An evening of grinding yields a Q.E.D. capture!  I haven't felt so proud since breaking one million CherryMax, and here it is!  I'm so glad for taking part in this as what I once perceived as one of the hardest Extra stages quickly went to the bottom of the list below PCB Extra and Phantasm.  Unfortunately, I think MoF's Extra is second-hardest to IN.  I'll have to wait for a spark of inspiration to run the stage until it is no longer unfamiliar territory.

History is now 1/12.  As for the run that led up to this, I do feel sorry for pulling some strange antics on Cranberry Trap, among other things.  Capturing the other spells wasn't really on my mind but neither was bombing given the ease of the fight so 11 captures were a 50/50 in a given run.  The shotgun capability is very exciting.

Looking at it again the dodging wasn't very impressive.  I may as well have been running it over until finding an attempt where nothing was thrown that I couldn't handle quickly enough.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 11, 2009, 06:33:14 AM
Did my first hard 1cc today in EoSD yay.. Not gonna link it cuz it's pretty bad lol.

1ccing a full game is pretty frusterating actually. I frequently die to stuff that never kills me. Rather than being a true challenge it mostly feels like it's just multiple games of "how long can you play without screwing up".

Granted there are some parts that were genuinely hard.. Scarlet meister is the largest example (WTF is it possible!? is it actually noticeably harder on lunatic? Seems like every time I do it, I just DO NOT see an opening.. at all.. ever. it's like.. uhh.. I'm screwed). I mean I've capped hard eternal meek like 10 times in a row (or is that a yawn fest, lunatic only kinda spellcard like emerald megalith), but as soon as scarlet meister stars, AAAACK!!!

I can cap hard scarlet gensokyo about 1/3 of the time.

Anyway, I think after 1ccing the hards, imma just do level select lunatics up the yinyang for a long time. They are alot less frusterating. I mean it's just such a pain to have to reset your whole run all over again cuz you screwed up on levels 1-3 (which shouldn't happen), or doing good on 1-3. and then dying like 3 times on something that ordinarely never kills you on 4. Sooo.. Yer I think imma level select lunatic, and not worry about 1ccing the whole game like that until I've done it enough times to never really have to worry about non-boss situations.

It's funny how much better I play extra stages compared to ordinary stages, and I don't mean stage 5s and 6s. I can beat an extra stage without dying (not boss) on pretty much any Touhou pretty easily, but then I screw up and die on level 2 or something. *facepalm*.

sorry for 2/3 rant 1/3 accomplishment lol. I just thought my first hard 1cc would be more satisfying. But by the end I was so dejected at how bad I sucked at stage 4 (stage 5 wasn't bad, but didn't make up for it either)."hmm should I go for spellcap on eternal meek? why bother, this is so embarrassing I just want it over with. not worth the risk *bomb*.. oh look vampire illusion *bomb*, say I got like 10 of these left *bomb bomb bomb*).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 11, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
WTF is it possible!? is it actually noticeably harder on lunatic? Seems like every time I do it, I just DO NOT see an opening.. at all.. ever. it's like.. uhh.. I'm screwed

Meister is easy on hard ^_- (well...)
Wait 'til you see Lunatic oh god.

GZ though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 11, 2009, 01:43:55 PM
I can't cap Scarlet Meister on Hard. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 11, 2009, 01:52:15 PM
I can't do Scarlet Meister on Hard consistently either but that's probably due to lack of experience with the spell rather than lack of skill. The lunatic version though is almost impossible.

I mean I've capped hard eternal meek like 10 times in a row (or is that a yawn fest, lunatic only kinda spellcard like emerald megalith), but as soon as scarlet meister stars, AAAACK!!!

Eternal Meek on Hard isn't very tough compared to its Lunatic version. I have captured the hard version time upon time again but never the lunatic. I did cut it very close though. Died at the same time as the spell. Used ReimuA by the way.

Emerald Megalith, yeah that was sure a surprise. I think i have only failed that card twice, one of them being a timeout. It really is no sweat to do on Hard difficulty. I'd almost say the same thing for Bury in Lake.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 11, 2009, 02:02:51 PM
Total Purification used to be hard?

1/114 for my old Border Team history.
1/1 solo Reimu just now.

Capping a spell card I've already capped isn't really an accomplishment in itself, but it's always nice to actually see improvement in a measurable form like this.


Edit: 1/29 for a Youmu no-focus cap.  I might try to up this to a Youmu no-focus timeout.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 11, 2009, 03:38:25 PM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7836/mysticsquarevictory.jpg)



...whut.  Well that was over quickly (like, four attempts and less than 24 hours O_o), but whatever I'll take it.  MS lunatic 1cc with Youkai Moe~.  So what was that whole thing about her being unusable on lunatic?  ;)

And yes, I didn't have the unicode set on japanese when I played this, because I'm cool like that.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on June 11, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
I haven't felt so proud since breaking one million CherryMax...

WHAT!?  :o
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 11, 2009, 07:46:37 PM
I did a 1 death Mokou battle capturing 11 spellcards.

In that run i failed one of Keines spellcards due to some silly mistake. I was too lazy to retry the stage. I also failed at Hollow Giant "Woo" due to some mistake. If i didn't make those stupid mess ups it could have been a no-death 13 spellcard capture run.

Guess is should feel proud as i'm just a Hard mode player.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 11, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7836/mysticsquarevictory.jpg)



...whut.  Well that was over quickly (like, four attempts and less than 24 hours O_o), but whatever I'll take it.  MS lunatic 1cc with Youkai Moe~.  So what was that whole thing about her being unusable on lunatic?  ;)

And yes, I didn't have the unicode set on japanese when I played this, because I'm cool like that.

Excuse me while I go cut myself. ;_;

Nah, good job. It's not that she's unusable, it's just that MS lunatic is very fast, and Yuka is not. If it weren't for this, I'd use her over Mima (and I do for extra).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 11, 2009, 07:55:03 PM
I beat esod lunatic...with continues. yay.

Seriously though, most of it actually didn't seem much harder, just a select few parts.
1: stage 1 is very much harder. normally I expect 60-70something power by the boss, on lunatic, I'm crapping my pants, and feel accomplished if I get just 50.
2:stage 3 is wtf.. I guess I have to re-memorize it all over again. Stuff that would let me live gets me killed for it... sangrilla 9 or whatever you spell it. I capped on my first try, I still haven't capped that on hard. go figure.
3: stage 4 is harder and the same. Basically if you screw up anything in the giant memory game that it is, you'll die.. instead of probably die...sigh. More re-memorizing to do for that one.
4: Patchy oddly enough didn't seem much harder to me. That includes emerald megalith, sure it was harder, but honestly I didn't notice anything different in that spell other than a few more large bullets. I didn't cap it cuz of a stupid screwup admittably, but it sure seemed like sylphae horn high level and uhh.. agnes shrine whatever was harder (though I capped the horn, go me).

5: stage 5 I don't know, I wasn't really trying at that point since I was on my last life and was just having fun. Sakuya seemed harder on her noncards, but her spellcards seemed the same.

BTW what's up with Jack the ludo bile, I find it can be easy, but sometimes it just seems totally impossible. I mean, I know how to do it easily without breaking a sweat, but sometimes it just seems like ALL her big random bullets are clustered around both "exits" for the knives. WTF am I supposed to do there, is this a known "can't be unlucky" spellcard? It's very frusterating. 3 times in a row this has happened to me now.

I capped the world still, and ALMOST capped killing doll, only reason why I didn't is cuz she re-twisted a green knife that i had already dodged straight towards me as it was RIIIIGHT next to me (didn't notice it either)...sigh.

As for Remila:
Her opener has more bullets but didn't really seem much harder (I hate the medium sized bullets though, I always underestimate their hitbox, it's alot bigger than I think every time.. doh.. must remember, dodge around the big bullets, not hte medium ones).

demon whatever seemed pretty similar, vampire illusion..umm. the bullets were faster which doesn't really matter. But I got walled in at one point, I don't know if this is a luck thing or a lunatic thing. I've been walled in once on hard too but that was also probably partially cuz It took me too long to beat that card.

I did NOT notice any difference with scarlet meister on lunatic than on hard, despite what people say. Looked EXACTLY the same to me.. As a matter of fact I almost capped it this time.. go figure. I survived 3 waves and died on 4.

Scarlet gensokyo... yeah.. probably the most noticeable hard to lunatic change in the whole game except for maybe stage 1 and 3 trash >=P.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 11, 2009, 08:27:03 PM
Total Purification used to be hard?

1/29 for a Youmu no-focus cap.  I might try to up this to a Youmu no-focus timeout.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3580

Got the Youmu no-focus timeout.  History is now 1/222, although that includes a few screwing-around attempts, and an occasional collision with Keine during my ritualistic intro-dance around her at the beginning of the card.

What's funny is how I psyched myself into pulling it off.  I started this session at 1/70-ish, so by the time I succeeded, I'd been going for a while.  I thought to myself "fuck this, I'm sick of this music."  I went into the menu, muted the music, booted up iTunes, opened Cirno's Perfect Math Class on loop (because I can listen to that song a disgusting amount of times in a row and not get sick of it), and managed a successful timeout within the first complete run of the song.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 11, 2009, 08:28:16 PM
Quote
That includes emerald megalith, sure it was harder, but honestly I didn't notice anything different in that spell other than a few more large bullets. I didn't cap it cuz of a stupid screwup admittably
The true horror that is Emerald Megalith Lunatic is when it's on Max Rank, btw.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 11, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
I did NOT notice any difference with scarlet meister on lunatic than on hard, despite what people say. Looked EXACTLY the same to me.. As a matter of fact I almost capped it this time.. go figure. I survived 3 waves and died on 4.

There is no difference in structure, only in the number of shotguns.

The fact that I can 80% cap the hard version and only rarely survive a wave of the lunatic version (i.e. when the card goes easy on me - or when I get absurdly lucky) is enough to tell me there's a difference. A big one.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Phar on June 11, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
[...] I find it can be easy, but sometimes it just seems totally impossible.

EoSD in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 11, 2009, 10:25:36 PM
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1279/shikiheadeiki.png)

PoFV extra clear! *guitar solo*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 11, 2009, 10:27:51 PM
EoSD in a nutshell.
Easy... oh Shit Death?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 12, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
Donut. I see your PoFV Extra Clear and raise you a LLS.

Yeah, LLS Extra Clear. Did it when I was bored, took like 5 tries. =3 I randomly died on her third phase though. =V

...Whoops, maybe I should've checked what I named the picture. it says llsexclear2.

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/29/llsexclear2.png)

...And my fonts weird for some reason. =V It was fine before...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 12, 2009, 01:07:07 AM
I SEE WHAT YOUR PROBLEM HAS BEEN THIS WHOLE TIME!

Quote
Miss: 8

Quote
Bomb: 10

:V

Nonetheless, good job. Now go and survive GRT. If you have enough resources to do that, it proves you've mastered her.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 12, 2009, 08:52:19 AM
1LC MS up to and including Stage 4.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl89.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=179&u=12803292)
I would have more bombs, but Mai pulled BS walls twice on me.

Made it to Yumeko with 7 lives, and 1 bomb. Messed up big time for the post-midboss waves.

...this was the same run that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IK8ESRpyLI) made me quit. Though it may have been possible to do Shinki with 3 lives, I felt it was impossible getting the 4th back (20 Point Items while fighting Shinki would be a miracle), and I had already lost my will to finish it.

---

...here we go again  >_>

Awesome. But still, dying with bombs in stock.
Regardless:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl91.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=181&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl90.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=180&u=12803292)

1 death to Luize.
1 death to Mai. The "exploding eggs" are messed in hitboxes. Guess I should've used another opening.
1 death to Stage 5.
1 death to Yumeko.
4 deaths to Shinki. One was because I tried to grab one [ S ], and got a bullet instead. Another was due because... I lost the rhythm at the "snake bullets".

EDIT: you want a playthrough video for this as well?

---

And a small rant to the side. Well, after clearing 2 2.75 3 Lunatic Modes, I can actually see the "light at the end of the tunnel", not just the "glimmer" back when doing Hard was difficult enough. What's at the end of the tunnel? A labyrinth. Yes, moving further is still possible. I can strive for perfection with my runs. Or I can take up something different. This can be adding further handicaps, or even (for me, further) score running.

...barring me grinding LLS / MS / MoF until they're close to perfection, what Lunatic Mode should I aim to 1cc next?

EDIT: typos.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Wingz on June 12, 2009, 01:04:47 PM
Finally 1CC'd SA Normal, yay!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 12, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
Finally 1CC'd SA Normal, yay!

uber! I felt pretty stoked when I did that >=)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 12, 2009, 07:17:14 PM
1cc'd LLS normal...with ReimuB.  Yeah.

(Extra ate my face.)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 12, 2009, 07:51:12 PM
I resisted 5 minutes against Reisen Lunatic on PoFV today. Playing with Cirno.


-Reisen didn't take a single hit the whole time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sentinel on June 12, 2009, 09:01:15 PM
IN Extra clear with solo Sakuya, no-focus.  In the same run, a capture of Xu Fu's Dimension that I'll never be able to replicate.

For some odd reason, the pain feels so good.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 12, 2009, 10:30:57 PM
Yes, please give videos Baity!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 13, 2009, 12:25:55 AM
MS Lunatic go!

...access them through my channel. Stage 6 is still processing  >_> done.

All videos have High Quality. Add the extension of "&fmt=18" to enable. Unless it's finally doing it by default.
1 death to Luize.
1 death to Mai. The "exploding eggs" are messed in hitboxes. Guess I should've used another opening.
1 death to Stage 5.
1 death to Yumeko.
4 deaths to Shinki. One was because I tried to grab one [ S ], and got a bullet instead. Another was due because... I lost the rhythm at the "snake bullets".
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 13, 2009, 02:34:18 AM
Oh god, I feel bad about my 1ccs if that's how slow my game runs. ;_; Shinki's bullet spams in her first and second phases, as well as all of her second-last phase slow down a lot on my computer. Since I win with a life to spare and don't always do so hot on those anyway, I'm not doubting the legitness of my clears, but still...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 13, 2009, 03:19:55 AM
It's official. I suck at Shinki. No idea why though.

(http://i60.www.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl96.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=186&u=12803292)(http://i60.www.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl97.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=187&u=12803292)(http://i60.www.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untitl98.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=188&u=12803292)
And my internet is acting a bit strange. I can't see these thumbnails that I put in, so just in case they don't appear, I'll say this. EDIT: they didn't appear after all. For me anyways.

Started Shinki with 7 lives and 2 bombs. Finished with 3 lives and 3 bombs. Occasionally died with 1 bomb in stock per life. At least I passed the "snake bullets" without bombing. But then again, it's a lot more easier on Hard.

@donut: wait for your new compy, take out Shinki again.

EDIT 2: ...am I the only person who doesn't have that much difficulty against Yumeko? This applies across all difficulties.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 13, 2009, 05:14:31 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3593

PCB stage 6 no deaths. My bomb spam during Resurrection Butterfly aside (didn't want to lose my no deaths run to overconfidence), this is the best Yuyuko fight I've ever done. I fail Repository of Hirakawa due to a derp mistake, but it only cost me a border...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 13, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
Started Shinki with 7 lives and 2 bombs. Finished with 3 lives and 3 bombs. Occasionally died with 1 bomb in stock per life. At least I passed the "snake bullets" without bombing. But then again, it's a lot more easier on Hard.


7 lives and 2 bombs... *afraid*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 13, 2009, 04:48:43 PM
Hahaha. I beat Practice Remilia Lunatic, but I went in Scarlet 'Soak with three lives and three bombs. I came out with one bomb left. Oh god lol.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 13, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
7 lives and 2 bombs... *afraid*
Since servimg is being a bit annoying...

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/BaitySM/untitled.png

And in other news...

A "decent" Extra Clear. With the overpowered Mima. Having the 2nd strongest long-distance shot type coupled with high movement is absurd for stage survival + scoring. Not to mention that Mima's shotgun power overrides Reimu's, and is close to being on-par with Yuka's. Well, I think so anyway.
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/BaitySM/untitled-1.png
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/BaitySM/untitled2-1.png

4 lives down. Died twice with full bombs in stock. Further, I (almost) had the final pre-boss wave, but I got scared and bombed  ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 14, 2009, 03:39:22 AM
Perfected the stage portion of PCB stage 4 for the first time ever.  Having max lives/bombs is indeed a wonderful feeling...  The run was 2 miss/0 bombs overall, with a death each on Lunasa's crisscrossing shitstorm of death (i.e. second nonspell) and Concerto Grosso at the last second.  Still, it's probably the best run of the stage I've had. 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 14, 2009, 04:19:57 AM
MS Normal 1cc (Mima).  Finished with a life in stock, and that was with missing the life from the Stage 5 midboss (:rage:).  Shinki was surprisingly easy...except those yellow worm thingies.  I died twice with full bombs and then bombed twice to get through it.  I dunno, I was able to dodge them before...

Also, it would be nice if the Extra Midboss didn't BS me.  Yesterday I got to Alice 3/3...today 0/3.  And I do NOT appreciate Alice's version of Sanae's "Moses' Miracle".
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 14, 2009, 05:09:35 AM
And I do NOT appreciate Alice's version of Sanae's "Moses' Miracle".

Alice apeared first. =P
So Moses' Miracle is a Sanae's version of that Alice phase. /ohforgetit
BTW, I find it easier.






1cc'ed PoFV Lunatic with Komachi. Yay.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 14, 2009, 05:27:25 AM
1 border clear of PCB Extra.

I -should- be content with this, but I'm simply not. Is that a problem?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 14, 2009, 05:42:24 AM
Soo... yeah.

I still died with bombs in stock though. Right at the end. Video to come at a later point.

Again, I'll say it's too easy with Mima  >_>
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt263/BaitySM/BaityMS.png)
B=11 by the way. My graze isn't maxed bawwwwwww.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 14, 2009, 01:33:27 PM
So I finally took revenge against my nemesis and captured VoWG in hard mode.  8)

The rest of that pratice run was pretty much epic fail, though. The idea was to do a no bomb run of stage 6 hard. Ok, dying to the part where the last waves overlap with the first waves of the death fairy is understandable as today is the first time I tried to not bomb it away, but... dying two Heaven's Dragon? Twice?!


Also, I start to believe that Rice Porridge on hard is more difficult than on lunatic. The blue extra wave is missing, but the regular waves seems to be way more cramped somehow...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 14, 2009, 02:11:36 PM
So I finally took revenge against my nemesis and captured VoWG in hard mode.  8)

The rest of that pratice run was pretty much epic fail, though. The idea was to do a no bomb run of stage 6 hard. Ok, dying to the part where the last waves overlap with the first waves of the death fairy is understandable as today is the first time I tried to not bomb it away, but... dying two Heaven's Dragon? Twice?!


Also, I start to believe that Rice Porridge on hard is more difficult than on lunatic. The blue extra wave is missing, but the regular waves seems to be way more cramped somehow...

The Lunatic version of Rice Porridge is much easier than the hard version. Its the same thing with Aya's Storm Day. On Lunatic its a lot faster than on Hard but the waves are much less dense and thus the only thing you need to capture it is good reading skills compared to Hard which poses a much bigger challenge.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 14, 2009, 08:22:19 PM
Bah. I guess getting to the last third of QED in a EoSD Extra No Bombs run is good enough. 10 cards captured.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3606

Deaths:
Second Non-card(Yeah. I blame this death for making me fail)
Starbow Break (I fail this at the most inappropriate times =V)
And then will there be none?
And then will there be none? (I also blame my two deaths here)
QED "Ripples of 495 Years" (expected/10)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 14, 2009, 08:51:41 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3607

For kicks, I decided to see if it was possible to do the beginning of MoF stage 5 pacifist. Less than five minutes later I did it...if you want to look tool assisted, try it; it's really fun.

Also, I nearly perfect the stage, but screw up on Sanae's opener. >_< It'd have been so awesome if this were a perfect run considering during the stage I also go through one of the blue bullet walls and survive one of Moses' Miracle's infamous wall situations.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 15, 2009, 12:00:53 AM
*Mima MS Extra clear with a somewhat good score*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQV7jVNnTc

This video does contain High-Quality. Do the usual.

Now it's time for a good LLS Extra  <3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 15, 2009, 01:10:34 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3610

The result of me thinking this morning "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to try and clear EoSD Extra without bombing?". It was fun, in some sort of masochistic way, but yeah. The run also comes with a bonus first capture of QED. =3

Shame I didn't get Philosopher's Stone in that one, compared to the other runs that came close. Nor did I get Maze of Love, but... I finally captured Starbow Break when I needed to capture it.

And now back to my regularly scheduled Lunatic 1cc Grinding.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 15, 2009, 01:46:15 AM
In the RAGE thread:

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I almost had Kimontonkou, but screwed up in the last five or so seconds. I was this close to perfecting PCB stage 2.


This isn't supposed to be me trying to one-up you, but credit goes to your post for making me think about trying it again.

PCB Stage 2, no deaths/no bombs/no borders broken (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3612) 
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 01:58:10 AM
 :'(

Well, how about this?! I'm about to enter the Prismriver Sisters on PCB lunatic, 6/1. LET'S SEE HOW I SCREW UP!

Entering stage 5 6/0. LET'S SEE HOW I SCREW UP?

Entering Youmu 7/0. Fine fine, so playing the stage dozens of times to the point of perfecting the stage helped me perfect the stage here. LET'S SEE ME BUTCHER THE YOUMU BATTLE! HELL GOD SWORD HERE I COME! TT_TT

THERE, I SCREWED UP MAJORLY! I made it all the way to Eternal Truth before getting clip deathed, then died with full bombs trying to get my bearings. ENTERING STAGE 6 5/2, I'M GOING TO LOSE! :D

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT! Entering Yuyuko 6/2, now watch me blow the whole run!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 15, 2009, 02:07:47 AM
:'(

Well, how about this?! I'm about to enter the Prismriver Sisters on PCB lunatic, 6/1. LET'S SEE HOW I SCREW UP!

Entering stage 5 6/0. LET'S SEE HOW I SCREW UP?
Did that on Hard, only I had 5 lives.

...still failed to 1cc it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 15, 2009, 02:08:02 AM
inb4epic


And to make this post not an empty quote, I perfected chen on hard. That was really easy. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 02:24:10 AM
HA! SEE? I TOLD YOU I'D FUCK UP! I only cleared 4/2. If I hadn't made those terrible mistakes, I may have cleared...uh...6/0! YEAH!

tl;dr: I FREAKING SUCK AT TOUHOU!

(replay incoming)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 15, 2009, 02:27:25 AM
tl;dr: I FREAKING SUCK AT TOUHOU!
Donut, it's been a while since I've had to say this, but shut the hell up

:parsee:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 15, 2009, 02:29:29 AM
tl;dr: I FREAKING SUCK AT TOUHOU!
Thanks for making me more bitter today.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 02:32:36 AM
Eh heh heh, sorry. I don't mean to put you guys down. It's just that when I do stuff like die twice to ETERNAL TRUTH and freaking Yuyuko's fourth non-spell card, I can't help but still feel I'm bad at this. Anyway, replay:

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3613

I die twice to Alice, then don't die again until Youmu. Huh.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 15, 2009, 02:33:59 AM
Donut, have you no bombed EoSD Extra?

...Which thread? I don't see anything on the EoSD topic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 02:37:02 AM
No. Meaning I'm inferior to you. :(

BTW, did you read all the tips I posted in the thread?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 15, 2009, 02:38:15 AM
Eh heh heh, sorry. I don't mean to put you guys down. It's just that when I do stuff like die twice to ETERNAL TRUTH and freaking Yuyuko's fourth non-spell card, I can't help but still feel I'm bad at this.
And I'd probably try to bombspam them, still dying with 2/3 bombs left.
But yeah, I understand how bad you feel for those deaths when your aim is to perfect them.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 15, 2009, 03:01:10 AM
3 death, 5 bomb clear of LLS Extra... 1 bomb was used for scoring.

...
...

Regarding "GRT", I can see the waves coming. The problem is, I can't move fast enough. Guess it's impossible to last that long inside with Reimu. Also, clipdeaths are really common.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 15, 2009, 04:52:18 AM
WOOOO, my first Lunatic 1cc bishes (EoSD).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3615
As it says in the replay archive, I'm very suprised I did it.

I did TERRIBLE on cirno (2 bombs on a stage 2 boss wtf).
I did even WORSE on stage 3 (like 3 bombs and 2 deaths lol...no that doesn't include the boss).

But somehow I made up for it (Despite sucking on sakuya too.. all 3 of them) by doing stage 4 very well (for me anyway...not the boss again, boss was average minus failing to cap forest fire, I normally can cap that), and by doing especially good on Remila. No stupid deaths on her, capped young demon lord, never had to bomb a spellcard more than once, etc...though I failed hard on thousand needle mountain (If I don't have a bomb it always kills me except 1 very lucky time, but..well..normally I last a LITTLE bit longer than that lol).

Anyway, I know I can do better again, but I'm proud regardless. I was genuinely concerned it would take me several months to a year before I could clear lunatic after seeing all your responses after my first post. But I did it according to my ambitious schedule.. BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Imma have lotsa booze now >=P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 15, 2009, 05:47:14 AM
Decided to no bomb run extra stage like I said I felt I could do earlier,
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3616...

Thing is I did it, had an extra life left, spellcapped QED.. But when I watch my replay I get wtfpwnt 5 times on flandre's opener/cranberry trap..

BOTH the replay archive and my game say I manage 110ish million points on my run, yet when I actually try to watch it I get rolled by 40 million.. So my achievement cannot be proved.

I posted in tech support forums, if anybody knows wtf is going on with my replay please let me know.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 15, 2009, 06:10:49 AM
Regarding the broken replay: it sucks, but it happens, although I've only heard of it happening on MoF Stage 4 and SA Stage 6.



Since I had PCB on the brain after no death/bomb/bordering PCB Stage 2...

PCB Stage 3, no deaths/no bombs/no borders broken (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3617)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 15, 2009, 08:19:02 AM
Ok guys, accepting autographs now. I tried again..well I tried a few times again. But I quit and restarted on all my attempts that included deaths before flandre (most on philosipher's stone, or the books before the last fairies).

Anyway, I watched it, replay works fine this time, no bombs.. 1 death DOH! (on maze of love of all things too, why..whyyyy).
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3619

I don't wanna goto bed. I'm in "the zone" so to speak. It's like the god of danmaku has possessed me. Imma never do that good again prob. *sobs*.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 15, 2009, 10:21:45 AM
PoDD 1cc Normal!!!

Hooray!

EDIT: 2 rounds against Yumemi (played horribly the first round), totalling 5 minutes...
EDIT 2: Now that I know how the system actually works, I'm feeling confident about Hard Mode.
EDIT 3: Oh wow, super-fast snowballs are killing me before I even have time to react to them.
EDIT 4: Ok, now this is just ridiculous; there's little to no point in me using either Spell Attack 2 or 3 to build levels. The AI just dodges max level (16) Spell Attack 2 or 3 + Boss (summon). Clearly not cheating, especially when there's no focus. Sure, I can dodge through the ridiculous waves... about one in three times.

...this should be a RAGE post right about now. I should make a video, just to show you how much I embarrass myself...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 15, 2009, 03:11:07 PM
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3620)

No bombs run of EoSD Extra... one death each on Maze of Love and QED. Maze of Love death was a clip, but I was doing it from the bottom of the screen, so have only myself to blame.
QED just dominated me :S
200m points \o/

Edit: And because it's cool, a no-focus capture of Meiling's final spell... uhm... Colourful Typhoon?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 15, 2009, 04:12:45 PM
Unlocked extra with all 4 characters in LLS. Wait...that's not really an accomplishment. Whatever.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on June 15, 2009, 05:25:27 PM
PCB Normal 1cc with ReimuA (default lives).

I did this mostly to have 60 cleared spellcards, so whenever I beat Ran (reached her last spell once and failed horribly), I'll unlock Phantasm.

This is my second Normal 1cc in the Windows shooters (after IN. I also did IaMP and SoEW) and it was so much easier than EoSD, which I still have to clear after god knows how many tries. This one took 2.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 15, 2009, 05:59:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg8d5qpCADg&feature=PlayList&p=DEE3A70980287912&index=0&playnext=1

Managed to record and upload a run of Story of Eastern Wind, an SoEW update/remake thingy that fucks with timeline but either way is still sorta fun.  Complete with lag!  But when this one's frame rate drops, it doesn't slow down... T.T;

Gotta do it on "Hard" (actually Lunatic) next...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 15, 2009, 06:31:23 PM
So I attempted a no-bombs run of PCB, and I 1cced that thing like it was nothin'Nah, I just got to Asura Sword. (http://)  This is probably the easiest Windows game to no-bomb by far because of all those extends/borders you get, but I'm still impressed that I got so far.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
KYA HA HA HA HA! *pours gasoline on Eirin's corpse* I finally gave that moonbitch what's for! I beat her one death, on Astronomical Entombing. I even captured Apollo 13. Freaking fake final boss...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 09:22:53 PM
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5613/isthiswhatyouwant.png)

THERE. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE YOU BASTARDS?! I MADE IT TO REIMU IN SG EXTRA! >:(
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 15, 2009, 10:03:55 PM
Aw c'mon, you can't just stop there!  Seeing Reimu blow up is just oh so satisfying.

btw, I raped SG normal with the lasers just to see how it fared with extra.  I still didn't have any trouble with the ships... >_>  Though I can say that laser is complete and utter garbage for story mode, and not as good as homing for the extra.  It might be better if you have scoring in mind though (lol playing SG for score).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 10:07:01 PM
Not. Until. I. Beat. Normal. With. Homing. VIVIT.

Which considering things will probably be later tonight oh god what has Summer done to me? TT_TT












EDIT TO AVOID ANOTHER DOUBLE POST: Just perfected LLS extra's stage portion, cleared 6/1. 4 bombs used. Turns out the right way to go is to NOT grazewhore the beginning and instead collect their power. This keeps the upcoming wall spammers from overwhelming you. Besides, you can still gain 10 million+ points from Gengetu's grazewhore phase anyway.








EDIT for theshim below: You shut up, Astronomical Entombing is a random sonuvabitch. The border team can't destroy familiars fast enough for it to be worth it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 16, 2009, 01:46:23 AM
one death, on Astronomical Entombing
LOLWUT
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 16, 2009, 03:15:53 AM
There, finally gave in to my inner demons and 1cc'd SG normal with homing VIVIT. As I suspected, once the game stopped shitting me out with cheap attacks (or at least cheap ones I couldn't see coming in time), it was really easy.

So then I enter extra with my newfound homing VIVIT, and do amazingly well on Marisa, entering Reimu with 2 spare lives. I lose them all immediately on her cheap as hell second phase.

...-_-

EDIT: Kanako, that's when I'm inspired. As long as Reimu's second phase exists, I'm not inspired.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 16, 2009, 03:18:14 AM
Knowing you, you're probably going to clear it in about a day.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 16, 2009, 06:45:34 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3624

This run makes me feel both happy and sad. I'm happy because I finally beat the post-Momizi BS without dying or bombing. I'm sad because since I wasn't really trying to do it I was still fighting Momizi 4 seconds after is started, and I have no idea if it made a difference or not. I just want to count it oh so badly, but I'm not sure if I can in good conscience. ;_; You guys be the judge.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 16, 2009, 09:48:36 AM
I've been putting it off for a while, because it's so difficult (comparatively) , but...

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit103.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=193&u=12803292)
4 deaths + 9 bombs.

Yuka is horrible for scoring, and moves too slow unfocused. I have no quarrels regarding focused movement speed. Her shot type is great, but isn't really suited for the stage part of MS Extra. Enemies were too far apart to make use of spread most of the time. Further, the spread meant lower power, which consequently led to the entire screen being filled with bullets. Wasted 1 bomb + 1 life on it.

However, I did "capture" Alice's "100% purple phase" (not to be confused with the simple streaming phase), and the final phase (probably because I was shotgunning for the first half).

And to top it off, I did the pre-boss waves perfectly a perfect mid-boss run.

I wonder, could using Yuka cause me to crash and burn against Yumeko? Well, going to find out... after the next two exams.
Done. No problems whatsoever. Yeah, you heard me. Barring that I mistimed some of my dodging ran straight into knives, I would say that it's possible. I even almost got a "capture" on Yumeko's most difficult phase... And no, this isn't just some claim.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3624

This run makes me feel both happy and sad. I'm happy because I finally beat the post-Momizi BS without dying or bombing. I'm sad because since I wasn't really trying to do it I was still fighting Momizi 4 seconds after is started, and I have no idea if it made a difference or not. I just want to count it oh so badly, but I'm not sure if I can in good conscience. ;_; You guys be the judge.
The post-BS waves start earlier, true. But the only way you're going to get it from the start is if you bomb through. I'd count it.

I should probably also add a note that my internet went into debt (because they're stingy bastards don't update certain days until months later, so all this money is being piled up), and that there's a chance that I won't be able to jump on.

Moving right along, I also now performed some more freak dodging. Unfocus dashing through "VoWG" waves, Lunatic streaming patterns, etc. Not sure if that counts as an accomplishment though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 16, 2009, 09:42:21 PM
Just some things i did today:

- Timed out Spell 21 in Imperishable Night. That was fun.
- Captured Imperishable Shooting. That was surprisingly easy. Only two difficult waves. Requires a lot of precision.
- Timed out Hourai Doll down to 6 seconds. Died there. Didn't feel like going on.
- Perfect Prismriver battle on Hard difficulty.
- Captured Kogasa's blue bullet spamcard and mid-boss spell on Lunatic.
- Captured Ichirin's midboss spellcard on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 16, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
-Perfect Yumeko battle (Hard)
-Perfect Reimu (LLS) battle (Hard)

...that's it for now. I'm getting close to doing the Lunatic ones.

EDIT: MarisaA is overpowered for LLS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 17, 2009, 03:24:22 AM
I cleared every level with every char of PoFV...
I guess it's a great accomplishment...  :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 17, 2009, 05:27:27 AM
Holy crap I think I've done it.  I just found a pattern to Reimu's second phase that might be exploitable.  There's still some kinks to work out, but at least this will make it lose a ton of it's sting.  I've also found a pattern in her fourth phase; that one always seemed like luck-garbage to me, but now it's perfectly doable.  Thanks to these discoveries I managed an extra run with three lives remaining (that is two extra lives), which is by far the best I've ever done.

...Blegh i was only partly right.  Oh well, it still makes it a bit easier...

...nvm it actually does work.  Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 17, 2009, 06:12:47 AM
That was a terrible run, up until the very end.

To recap:

Stage 3 - Three deaths. One on the stage cause I'm a doofus. I was saying to myself "okay, I won't die stupidly on this stage this time." BAM! I run into a bullet on the other side of the screen because I wasn't paying attention.

Nitori then kills me twice. On her first card. Ya. I don't even know how I died the first time, and the second death was me being stupid and mad. Cue the "Well this run is going to hell".

Stage 4 - I think there was a death on the stage. I got through Aya though with no deaths, that was nice.

Stage 5 killed me once, I think, and then again at mid boss Sanae, on a really cheap death. The card was done, she was clearing... oh wait, I can't dodge those last tiny dots coming at me, can I? Well crap.

Sanae boss kills me on Moses. I hate that card.

Stage 6 didn't kill me, which it never should. But I only got to Kanako with two lives.

One death on the rice card. That thing is ridiculous on hard.
And then one death on her streaming non-spell. The three phase one. I also hate that thing.

So I got to VoWG with only 4.3 power, since I bombed Heaven's Dragon. Didn't feel like doing it.

Captured VoWG hard ^^ So a great end to a really crappy run.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 17, 2009, 07:48:48 AM
...I just bugged Suwako's first Spell Card.

Not good for scoring though, because I wasted a bomb.

Replay to come (unless the replay magically debugs itself...)

EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it  ;_;
What the "bug" did was make Suwako fire her lasers (constantly, regardless of my position) upwards, which mean that the only bullets that were coming down the screen were the aimed ones.

And I game over'd on Native Sign "Froggy Braves the Elements", with 1 bomb and 1 death, in an attempt to time it out (and all the other Spell Cards). It is not 100% vertical danmaku dodging. The further away from where the bullets fall, the more slanted the bullets are. So naturally, I got clipped before I found this out. 45 seconds left on the timer.

Oh well, a 630k Faith stage run isn't too bad~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on June 17, 2009, 08:58:21 AM
EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it  ;_;
Just make sure you're above Suwako *before* she starts her opener, as the lasers seem to be aimed w.r.t what position you are at the start of her opener for some reason. Or something. I haven't actually investigated what causes this bug in detail, but the method I described above will reproduce it with perfect consistency.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 17, 2009, 09:30:38 AM
EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it  ;_;
Just make sure you're above Suwako *before* she starts her opener, as the lasers seem to be aimed w.r.t what position you are at the start of her opener for some reason. Or something. I haven't actually investigated what causes this bug in detail, but the method I described above will reproduce it with perfect consistency.
Just got it (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3636). Very... interesting. Though, I probably won't ever do that again. It made the Spell Card ridiculously easy.

Also, stupid clipdeaths. And mistiming movements, forgetting to do *action* here, etc. . There might be a few other areas that I'm doing wrong though. Oh, and I missed the free bomb before Suwako. That sucks.

PoFV Extra Clear. That was easier than I thought. PoDD is much more simplistic, yet more difficult.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3637

And I might as well post this: I died to Cirno about in about half the runs, because I was trying to scorewhore for getting the first life quickly. It didn't go so well in this run. I believe one of my failed runs had the Spell Counter go to about 700k or something before Cirno decided to run into a bullet.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 17, 2009, 03:59:03 PM
Suwako's first spellcard is one of the easiest extra spells ever. It would serve no point to bug it. It actually can't get easier than it already is unless you consider moving from left to right and vice versa a problem.

- Captured Suwa War.
- Captured Imperishable Shooting again. Figured out that there is only three waves that potentially pose a threat while only two of them are actually dangerous.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 17, 2009, 07:28:48 PM
Speaking of Suwako...

Just finished a no bomb run of that Extra Stage.

So that means I've no bombed all the extra stages, and completed Hard of all the games.

That just leaves Lunatic...

Hold me ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 17, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3039/scarletmeisterlunaticca.jpg)

Yes.


YES.


YEEEEEEAAAH!


Edit: this is actually a little annoying though, I was gearing up for a marathon of Touhou, but a mere 2 stage practices in I find myself shaking like a leaf and unable to dodge even the simplest danmaku. Oh well. Everything has a price, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 18, 2009, 04:06:58 AM
...I found another way to deal with Yumeko's knife spam phases.

The best part? It works consistently, and even applies for Lunatic Yuka. And it even ends the phases rather quickly.

The bad news is that it still doesn't work for that last one... ...which I would rather just shotgun bomb by the way.

The method is a whole series of "switch streams", where you misdirect the "lines" from the center, and dodge the incoming aimed knives.

I didn't dare test this out on the 2nd phase of this type, due to the ridiculous density of the knives. It did work on the 3rd one though (with the lasers).

So that gives me 2 methods of dodging Yumeko's 1st and 3rd knive spam, 1 method of doing the 2nd, and nothing on the 4th.

I can see a 1LC of Yumeko already. With full bombs in stock.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 18, 2009, 07:22:06 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3647

There, now I can never go the final A route again. :V IN lunatic 1cc going to Final A. I entered Eirin 5/1 and left 2/1. :( However, I blame one of those deaths entirely on the cardinal sin of shmups called "spawning a bullet on you" that you only ever see in Eirin's fight...because her fight sucks balls. Still, I've finally done it, so now I can never do it again.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 18, 2009, 07:33:52 AM
I just timed out "DBDB" on Hard... Satori was on minimal HP as well, so it counts as an effective capture (and not just some pansy dodging in a corner or something).

Looks like I'll have to do further testing, in spite of the fact that I wrote a huge analysis on it. In other words, how to deal with it consistently.

EDIT: lol, shotgun-distance dodging of "DBDB" is fun.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on June 18, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
I don't understand why people find Moses so hard. All you have to do is keep moving and redirecting the knives. I capture it consistently. :/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 19, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
MS Extra Clear all characters.

Screenshot of the scores to come soon.

Marisa is <3 for MS. Scores aren't that bad at the moment. Though, I'll be improving them.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit104.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=194&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 19, 2009, 01:37:45 AM
Quote from: baity
Marisa is <3 for MS.

Seriously? I thought she was bad in comparison to MEEEEMMMMAAAA Mima and Yuka.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 19, 2009, 01:43:40 AM
Seriously? I thought she was bad in comparison to MEEEEMMMMAAAA Mima and Yuka.
When not at full power, Marisa is sub-par.

When she gets full power, she has arguably the strongest shot type (in terms of range:damage ratio). The problem most people face lie in the delay of the missiles. So if the boss moves around a lot (e.g. Alice), you can expect to be taking your sweet time, or trying to flail around in hopes of maximizing damage.

I rank the characters like this in terms of playability (according to my style):

Mima > Marisa > Yuka > Reimu

Isn't it sad?  ;_;

Oh hey, a "perfect" stage run. With the same 1 bomb for scoring that I love to use. Which is in a very easy-to-dodge area by the way.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit105.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=195&u=12803292)
Finishing nicely. 2 deaths, 3 bombs.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit106.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=196&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit107.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=197&u=12803292)
Died on the last phase because it was at max rank.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: theshirn on June 19, 2009, 03:49:50 AM
Ungh.  Help with the stage would be appreciated.  See RAGE post.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 19, 2009, 05:05:52 AM
Ah, there we go. Got to Puking Swords. Only a matter of time and luck, now.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Darkblizer on June 19, 2009, 05:06:05 AM
Yayyyy I 1cc'd SA.

By the way, it didn't actually take very long, I just haven't played touhou in a while.

Soo, I guess I'll just go and do the extra stages, yay.

..starting with SA extra and going backwards because I don't particularly like EoSD that much. D:

oh yeah, here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3650 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3650)

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Helepolis on June 19, 2009, 06:15:51 AM
Finally, after two months of almost playing IN: I have beaten SA on EASY MODE NO CC

YES!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 19, 2009, 06:20:31 AM
You mean 1cc...right? Because I don't even know how a 0cc would work. :P

In other news...I've got nothing. But hey, great new name, huh? >_> I wonder how long it'll be before I actually change this back...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Helepolis on June 19, 2009, 06:30:55 AM
No not quite =( , I died at Utsuho. She melted me so used a continue thus stands for no CC right?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 19, 2009, 06:39:23 AM
If you continued once then that would be a 2cc. The way it works is that a 1cc would be if this were in an arcade you would only use one credit, i.e only pay to play once. Since you have to pay to continue playing after running out of lives in an arcade, continuing once would be a two credit clear.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Helepolis on June 19, 2009, 06:54:21 AM
Oh . . . *smash head*

I keep messing up this cc thing. I never even quite understood it anyway. Is it because I am a (9)? Must be no? Yea, must be.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 19, 2009, 07:15:37 AM
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5380/shuusougyokuextraclear.png)

Well, this came completely out of the blue. I was all raging over how cheap Marisa's suns toss attack was, and suddenly I pull off a SG extra clear. This was my second time reaching Reimu's fourth phase, and my first ever going beyond it. I have to say...Reimu takes a huge nosedive in difficulty from her survival attack on. I mean, what the hell is with her final attack? It's a simple aimed attack.

So I hear it's possible to share replays or something. I don't even know where replays are stored though. Help?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 19, 2009, 02:33:32 PM
The sun-merang isn't so bad once you get a feel for how the suns rotate.  The only really bullshitty thing that could happen is if you destroy one of them in mid-swing, in which their speed fluctuates wildly as they reposition themselves.  Just stop shooting when she throws them out.  To be honest, the only true BS attacks in the stage are Marisa's yellow bullet/laser horror, her clone attack (50% chance of cheapshotting/wasting a bomb from you) and the first half of Reimu's survival phase where she throws a fucking WALL at you.  The rest are... theoretically possible at least.

But hey, great job!  See, this stage isn't so bad once you get used to it (and know when to bomb).  Now that you've gotten that out of the way you can start practicing for lunati*shot*

Replay files can be found here:  http://img3.imageshack.us/i/ssgreplay.jpg/  Just look for the stage in question (in this case the EX one) and save it to another location. 

Edit:  Whoops.  Does the link work now...?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 19, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
Image not found. >.>

And Reimu's first stage of her survival attack was BS? It seemed very straightforward to me; it was simple lanes with a moderate amount of random bullets thrown in. I only bombed because I was against a wall and was on my last life.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 19, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
...Really?  It might be a rank thing, because I always find that attack almost impossibly dense, and the fact that she fires them at you almost point-blank doesn't help things much.  Though it should also be noted that I have a fair bit of input lag for SG (not as bad as patchless PCB, but it's noticeable), which can sometimes screw with my micrododging.  I think I fixed the link btw.

Edit:  FFFFFFFFFF I got to stage 6 in PCB.  Then I promptly game-over'd to the Fuck You fairy wall.  I swear, one of these days I will get through all of stages 2, 3, and 4 without horrendously chain-dying and losing three lives at once, and then I'll show Yuyuko what for.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Slaves on June 19, 2009, 09:38:56 PM
I just did my first capture of Ichirin's 2nd card. It's usually an auto-bomb for me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 20, 2009, 02:12:10 AM
I just spellcapped scarlet meister 3 times in a row on hard now (practice mode of course..after a full run). It's amazing how easy hard is after doing lunatic for a bit lol...But yeah you can really notice the diff between hard and lunatic meister, didn't notice it before.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 20, 2009, 05:43:22 AM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/657/msnobombs.png)

MS normal no bombs. In retrospect, not that big a deal, but I didn't think I could do it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 20, 2009, 11:02:17 AM
1cc MoF Normal, ReimuB (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3657)

Okay, it's not much (I now realise how damn easy MoF is!) but it's my first 1cc at a highly acceptable slowdown rate since my laptop first contracted Terminal Slowdown.  For some reason, MoF and StB runs with a minimum of slowdown, and SA and SWR, basically none, but anything earlier?  Don't go there.

*Credits finish* Wait, it was 7.5% Slowdown?

... ;-;

God damnit.  I even ruined a 100% Record of Mountain of Faith!  T.T [It was 2/2, now it's 2/3, but seriously, it's So Damn Easy!  @_@].  But I did figure out Miracle of Otensui... And HOW do you do Misayama Hunting Shrine?  I've at least got a grip on Expanding Onbashira...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Vile Lasagna on June 20, 2009, 05:28:50 PM
So I've been away from Touhou for about a month, ever since my gamepad broke and I sent it back since it was still in warranty. But I got tired of waiting and decided to give it a go today. It's not like I DIDN'T play with the keyboard anyway. And I lose my first continue on DAYOUSEI. But I keep playing and SOMEWHERE I must have gotten half decent that because I managed to go all the way up to Scarlet Shoot (Remilia's penultimate spell). Yay for me!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 20, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
I remember that challenge about no moving to the right for SA, and I tried again. I got all the way to Utsuho's 2nd card.

EDIT: I should be able to 1cc. She only takes about two lives. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3660)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 21, 2009, 12:10:06 AM
Huzzah!

Out of the blue random LLS 1cc Lunatic. I was dying everywhere. With Cheeto Laser MarisaA, but still.

Having 3 lives for Stage 5+.

-Preboss waves done without bombing (or pre-bombing)
-Reimu expended only 1 life
-other things which I forgot.

@'nut: MarisaA is broken. MarisaB takes longer.

EDIT: Goddamit. I could've captured Yuka's Final Phase. Cheeto Lasers or not, that would've been it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Schpwuette on June 21, 2009, 12:23:01 AM
Broke 200m in EoSD Lunatic o/
Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3663)

So many deathbombs :o
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 21, 2009, 03:29:52 AM
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Well, I did it. 1cc'd SA Easy without moving to the right. I was seriously scared for a bit, as I had one extra life going into Tokamak because her last noncard walled me twice. I had just ran out of power, died, and then nearly died again, but beat it just before the bullet got me. And so, I ended up on SubSun with no cushion. Just a note, this is extremely fucking difficult. You can't go anywhere from 10 pixels off the center because you'll either die from the suction, or be forced to gap, where you'll either die by the suction or gap into a bullet. You have to let the quasi-gravity to pull you towards the center. I ended up bombing only twice, and I won. That was really stressful, but oh so fun.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the point. The replay desynced.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 21, 2009, 03:41:38 AM
An MoF lunatic 1cc. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3665)

...Meh.  Playing this game for survival is way too easy, even on lunatic.  I think I captured like 6 cards in the entire run, and everything else was just 'oh bullets coming my way lol bomb.'  I hardly had to practice the stages at all compared to the other lunatics.  And since I'm not a huge fan of MoF, I'm probably not gonna shoot for a better run than this any time soon. =/
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: stargroup on June 21, 2009, 04:27:23 AM
EDIT: Oh yeah, the point. The replay desynced.
goddamnit I wanted to see this so badly
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 21, 2009, 06:25:18 AM
I'll do it again tomorrow. I was going to upload it anyways, but then decided against; as it would keep people from watching the entire thing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 21, 2009, 07:48:22 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3666

I captured the ultimate fairy BS wall in PCB stage 6 lunatic. I discovered that there's a relatively quiet spot in the corner. I hate using Suckuya A, but her homing ability makes this MUCH easier. Like the comments say, ignore everything afterwards because I was just draining my lives and screwing around with Youmu/Yuyuko.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 21, 2009, 09:03:55 AM
An MoF lunatic 1cc. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3665)

...Meh.  Playing this game for survival is way too easy, even on lunatic.  I think I captured like 6 cards in the entire run, and everything else was just 'oh bullets coming my way lol bomb.'

I can beat that.  My MoF 1cc had 7 deaths, 48 bombs, and a whopping 5 captured spell cards: the three Aki cards, Hina's midboss card, and Hina's last card.

I need to go back and do a more impressive full game run, since in more recent times I've gotten no-miss runs of every stage except Stage 4 (fuck Momizi, fuck the waterfall fairies, and fuck Aya).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 21, 2009, 10:51:20 AM
...

1LC MS Extra.

*goes into corner*

(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/msem1l11.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=212&u=12803292)(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/msem1l10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=211&u=12803292)

Bombs used:
-pre-boss waves...
-2nd last phase (x2)

If I played right, it would be a 1-Bomb-Clear... I would still bomb the pre-boss waves.

I did record, but it's nothing special. Plus, flickering! Oh god my eyes hurt. But the flickering didn't slow the game down, so... yeah.

Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DgBarca on June 21, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3667 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3667) 50% Through the phantasm
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3656 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3656) I cleared an extra stage....NYYYYAAAAAAAAAA O0
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on June 21, 2009, 03:28:55 PM
PCB Extra Clear with ReimuA.

Pretty crappy run for spellcards (I think I only captured Red Oni Blue Oni and Shikigami Chen. Failed Wizard Fox Thoughts because I wanted to try shotgunning Ran and her first bullet broke my border), but it went very well for non-spells, so I reached "Descent of Izuna Gongen" with 3/2. Then I died twice with bombs in stock, and finished with 0/1 by timing out the spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 22, 2009, 05:15:54 AM
Tonight I:

Beat EoSD stage 4 one death (on Forest Blaze of all things. D:)

Beat EoSD stage 5 one death (on Killing Doll). I also captured Sakuya's second non-spell on max rank, and it didn't go easy on me either. Those walls are very scary, but very fun when you dodge them. Sadly Killing Doll on max rank was not so kind.

EoSD stage 6...nothing really. I can say that once you figure out the "trick" to Eternal Meek, it's very fun. :D Thousand Needle Mountain killed me when it you couldn't even see its health bar anymore though, dashing my hopes of making this a no deaths stage 6 run.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 22, 2009, 07:08:47 AM
Ooh tense.

Credits to 'nut (earlier, much earlier) for suggesting me to use unfocus dashing through the collapsing white waves. It clicked in my head that the attack is aimed, so it made sense. Else, this would not have been possible.

In short: Perfect Elly Battle at Max Rank with ReimuB

(yes, I restarted; there was no way I was going to 3-bomb clear Stage 5, and even after that, there was still Stage 6)

EDIT: Holy crap that was dangerous.

Note to self: Do NOT stop shooting for Stage 6, even if to prolong the [F]; the attack power is too low.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 22, 2009, 07:16:39 AM
Nice. I managed the same with Reimu A. :O This was also the run I captured Kurumi's second phase at max rank though, so I was obviously hax in that run (somehow finished only 0/0 though...).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 22, 2009, 07:28:23 AM
Note to self: Do NOT stop shooting for Stage 6, even if to prolong the [F]; the attack power is too low.
And that's 1cc with ReimuB; 10 misses, 23 bombs. Now it's all shot types completed.

I love the ending(s) by the way.

The run itself was somewhat horrible. I would've been left with 3 lives, but decided to stall Yuka's Final Phase for theorizing (recorded). As a result, I died with numerous bombs in stock.

...and how does one go about doing Yuka's Final Phase for Stage 5? I seriously, cannot see an opening I can use. I'm guessing I need to be more than halfway up the screen or something? Or do I just bomb it down...

EDIT: I just noticed. When you use Reimu for either LLS and MS, the "Player" and "Bomb" strings are untranslated. They are for every other character (Marisa(+A/B), Mima, Yuka).

Spell Card Theory - Yuka's Final Phase (LLS; Lunatic Edition)

First things first; Rank.

Rank does not affect this phase. At all. Not in speed, not in density. Nothing.

With that out of the way...
Quote from: LLSL6FP Video Data
2:38:067
2:39:767
2:40:467
2:40:867
2:41:267
- *bomb*
2:49:867
2:50:467
2:51:667
- *bomb*
2:56:667
- *end*

Note: Some times are larger in difference due to the type of pattern spawned. Same thing applies for smaller quantities of difference
Bullet spawn is fair simple, (somewhat) symmetric and randomized (in pattern generation), much like some other notable (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg15056#msg15056) Spell Card I analyzed.

Bullet density varies greatly. Sometimes, they'll give you large holes, other times, impossible walls, or very unnoticeable gaps.

Now the question imposed is, "What should I do?" The answer is simple in theory, but complex in practice. You need to:

-read each wave
-predict where the holes will appear
-position / plan your movement
-read next wave ASAP
-predict ASAP
-etc.

With ~0.7 seconds between each wave (and some of these waves are ridiculous), you better hope that you can see your way through pretty quickly. Not to mention controlling your character properly. Clipdeath can be very common. Or just bomb it. 3 should be plenty. 1 is probably the bare mini maximum with cheap MarisaA though.

However, sometimes Yuka will just throw one of these:
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit110.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=215&u=12803292)

Conclusion:
Difficult? Yes, very.
BS Factor? Pretty high, but depends on your shot type.

1 miss, 2 bomb (1 for scoring...) clear of LLS Extra.
(http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/80/32/92/th/untit111.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=216&u=12803292)
The death had a bomb in stock. Last phase is FFFFFF- on Max Rank, where I used the second bomb.

And note that this run did not beat my current HiScore, which is pretty unnerving. Maybe my scoring is much better with ReimuB?

I'm now a bit curious.

Going for SoEW Hard 1cc(s?), then going for Extra. No idea why I feel like doing this though. Note that I have never 1cc'd SoEW Normal. Ever.

However, sleep comes first.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 22, 2009, 05:48:35 PM
MoF Extra Clear.

I see what people mean about Suwako being easy, 'cause daaaaamn that was easy.  My successful attempt was a 1st attempt from Seven Trees onward [although I had seen a run of the stage before once or twice, never memorized anything though]
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 22, 2009, 06:01:07 PM
Go for it. 1cc SoEW lunatic so I can have nothing left to live for.  :'(

And interesting analysis on Yuka's final phase. I thought it was static...you know, if it weren't for the fact that you have to go through a 30 minute game just to fight it, it may actually be fun to read those walls.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: 7TC7 on June 22, 2009, 07:56:27 PM
Didn't accomplish anything in a long while, but now~

While talking with a friend over skype, while he did his best in trying to beat IN Extra with Border Team, I went and beat if with Magic Team for the first time ever.

After that, being happy already, I went to look for my not yet captures cards in Spell Practice.

Took on Imperishable Shooting and finally, while talking and making jokes of never beating this damn thing ... 1/160  ;D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 22, 2009, 08:23:04 PM
I CAPTURED GHOST WHEELS.

I never thought I'd do it on this computer, because control lag of slowdown combined with the inherent tight squeezes of Ghost Wheels = BLARGH ARGH WAFSDKLF. However, I somehow pulled it off. 50 FPS be damned, the control lag makes up for it.

Also, I ALMOST captured Possessed Fairy. I almost...had...it...

If I can capture Possessed Fairy I'm pretty much content, because the only other spell cards in SA I haven't captured are either Satori's other spell cards which are in "I don't EVEN care" territory, Utsuho's first two spell cards which are "SLOWDOWN LAG AGH" and "PETA FLARE AUGH" respectively, and Genetics of the Subconscious which can PRETTY MUCH fuck off.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: ?lice Bl?ckb?rn on June 22, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
"PETA FLARE AUGH"
Pfft, Peta Flare is tons of fun. It's not even that hard of a card either, at least comparing to other standard stage 6 boss arsenals. Go cap it :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 22, 2009, 08:40:27 PM
Hi. :) I'm kinda new to these boards, so I thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Sapzdude, or no1knew on the GameFAQs boards, and I'm currently a hard rank player. My current goal is a SA Hard 1cc but that's probably gonna take a while due to Orin rape so today in the meantime I managed a one death no bomb run of Ran, with Reimu B of all things.  :D And as a bonus my first capture of Kokkuri-San's Contract (which was my actual goal, the no bombs thing just kind of... happened).

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3675

And congrats Cat and Donut! Imperishable Shooting is a real bastard to capture... it took me something like 200 attempts :D. Lunatic Ghost Wheels I have no experience with whatsoever luckily enough but I imagine it's pretty difficult. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 22, 2009, 08:47:39 PM
Hey no1knew.

"PETA FLARE AUGH"
Pfft, Peta Flare is tons of fun. It's not even that hard of a card either, at least comparing to other standard stage 6 boss arsenals. Go cap it :P

I can't stand it quite honestly. You can't look ahead to see which suns are going to shrink enough and which ones are traps because OMG random blue bullets in the shizhouse. Not to mention the sun bullets obscure said blue bullets. Add on the fact that the slowdown throughout the fight beforehand is really stressful on me (HATE slowdown) and you have a card I'm not out to capture.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 22, 2009, 09:05:19 PM
MS Extra clear. In my opinion the only really troubling parts of the battle are the second purple phase and the two ultimate phases. The purple and ultimate for screwing with my eyes, the penultimate for being a clipdeath opera. The rest is fairly doable, even though I will still screw up on each every now and then. *Needs better bomb reflexes*

That leaves only the Extra stages of LLS, which I haven't even tried once but might in the not too distant future, and SoEW, which, on second thought, can approximate its mouth towards my posterior.   :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zetzumarshen on June 22, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
I managed to one miss MoF Lunatic. Before that, i had to 1cc about more than ten times MoF. Pretty good achievement, despite my original goal were 1LC that game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 22, 2009, 11:35:49 PM
1cc SoEW Hard. The "Homing" shot type.

WTF is with the Final Phase. The hitboxes are messed.

Survived, on last life, but not last bomb. Though, I feel guilty hammering the fire button... Died with bombs in stock a few times, but not on the "full" stock of 3.

EDIT: I almost got the BS Star wall. Mima was in the middle. But I panicked  ;_;

EDIT 2: "Offensive" Reimu is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on June 23, 2009, 01:46:49 AM
Quote
I managed to one miss MoF Lunatic. Before that, i had to 1cc about more than ten times MoF. Pretty good achievement, despite my original goal were 1LC that game.

You forgot one detail: You also outscored every goddamn run of MoF Lunatic on Gensokyo's Archives.  No, seriously.  You've now got the top run that isn't a TAS.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 23, 2009, 02:24:34 AM
Perfect Youmu boss battle.  A stupid stupid this-belongs-in-the-embarrassment-thread death before mid-boss Youmu, and some slightly less stupid deaths during the mid-boss.  I need to clean up the mid-boss fight a bit, but I think I smell a no death/no bomb Stage 5 coming soon.

It was also my first cap of Hell God Sword, which leaves Lunasa and Merlin's cards (because I always cheese the fight with Lyrica), some assorted Ran cards, and Border of Life and Death for remaining PCB Lunatic/Extra/Phantasm cards.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 23, 2009, 05:38:27 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3679

Ooh look what I did.  PCB no bombs 1cc. \o/  This came WAY sooner then I ever expected, since my attempts up till now have been quite laughable.  However it seemed that all I needed was a run where I didn't make any stupid mistakes and brought everything together.  Lots of dumb mistakes/broken borders, but that's to be expected. 

So I managed to scrape by the first 3 stages with 3 deaths (probably the best I'll ever manage from Chen/Alice), and did nice enough on the rest to get to Yuyuko with 2 extra lives.  Then I freaking perfected her until about the sixth wave of 80% reflowering when I clipped a bullet most unceremoniously. I so wanted to capture it, it would have made such an epic end to this run... Jesus am I criticizing a freaking no bomb run?  Somebody shoot me.  Well, 20 cards captured is alright enough I guess...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 23, 2009, 05:41:45 AM
v(O_O)v

I suck at Touhou so bad.

*goes off to cut self again*

Good job...but isn't a true no-bombs run of PCB kinda hard? Because of the borders I mean. Even if unintentional, they're essentially bombs.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 23, 2009, 06:04:00 AM
Don't worry, I'm far better at PCB than any of the other Touhou games (it's my favorite, and I definitely play it the most).  Plus, despite the games' overall difficulty, I truly still think it's the easiest to no-bomb, if only because of the borders.  There's no way in hell I'd try no-bombing any of the other games, because I'd get completely butchered.  :P

And as far as the borders go... there's not much one can do about the unintentional ones, unless you suicided everytime you broke one (which would be amusing to watch).  It might be a little cheap, but not using bombs is still about 30+ less bullet patterns you're allowed to fail, which is plenty challenging by itself.  I think there were only about two of them in the whole run anyway, and one was to Hell God Sword which I ended up dying to anyway.

Edit:  God, looking back at the run I had an absolute shitton of broken borders...everywhere.  What a sloppy run.  Meh, whatever, maybe someday I'll go completely insane and try to make a better one.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 23, 2009, 06:26:38 AM
Mmm...well, don't worry about me. I'm just channeling Parsee as usual. Silly really, for a lunatic player to be so jealous of another's skill. *eyes flash green*

Nothing special from me today. I managed to reach Scarlet Gensokyo again before dying in stage 6, but once again Scarlet Gensokyo thwarts my attempt at beating Remi no deaths. D: I also captured Killing Doll, but not not at max rank. >_> I wish it weren't so hard to reach it max rank.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 23, 2009, 06:32:28 AM
Mmm...well, don't worry about me. I'm just channeling Parsee as usual. Silly really, for a lunatic player to be so jealous of another's skill. *eyes flash green*

Nothing special from me today. I managed to reach Scarlet Gensokyo again before dying in stage 6, but once again Scarlet Gensokyo thwarts my attempt at beating Remi no deaths. D: I also captured Killing Doll, but not not at max rank. >_> I wish it weren't so hard to reach it max rank.

how can you tell if it's max rank
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 23, 2009, 06:42:34 AM
By the fact that the knives are ALREADY ALMOST ON TOP OF YOU WHEN SHE FIRES THEM OH GOD. But essentially you have to beat the entire stage up to it without dying, or you face a lower rank version. Still hard, but not as hard as max rank.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on June 23, 2009, 07:34:03 AM
I tried to get an IN Extra clear about half an hour ago.  It turned out to be my best run ever, capping eight cards (including Woo, which I always fuck up on) and despite totally getting annihilated by Possessed By Phoenix and Fujiyama Volcano (both spending at least one and a half lives on each), I manage to make it out with one life and three bombs left.  Whee~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 23, 2009, 02:38:33 PM
I tried to get an IN Extra clear about half an hour ago.  It turned out to be my best run ever, capping eight cards (including Woo, which I always fuck up on) and despite totally getting annihilated by Possessed By Phoenix and Fujiyama Volcano (both spending at least one and a half lives on each), I manage to make it out with one life and three bombs left.  Whee~

What is one and a half life?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 23, 2009, 03:35:32 PM
Out of curiousity, is EoSD the last Touhou game to be affected by rank, or do the later ones have the rank system too?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Arcengal on June 23, 2009, 04:07:13 PM
What is one and a half life?

I presume he counts deathbombs / last spells as being half a life.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 23, 2009, 05:08:50 PM
Oh wow, I'm getting worse at SA hard. I just failed at Satori. >_<
Back to practice mode I guess...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 23, 2009, 05:25:51 PM
Out of curiousity, is EoSD the last Touhou game to be affected by rank, or do the later ones have the rank system too?

It's the last to be majorly affected, but PCB has a rank system too. It's only noticeable in a few select attacks though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 23, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
Just got to Stage 4 of EoSD with 6 lives no bombs. Best run ever so far. Holy crap, if I can keep the deathes down in stage 4 I might have a chance.

Edit: Game over on Scarlet Gensokyo, a bullet spawned on me while dodging through the big wave.

4 deaths stage 4
3 deaths stage 3.

Only one death with bombs in stock, but it was three.

I need to practice stage 4, if I can get through it better, I can do this.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 23, 2009, 08:16:50 PM
Did your stinking 1cc lunatic esod with 3 lives now.. uploading as we speak (gensokyo is really slow atm). I still feel like I could do much better.. it's just a matter of not screwing up for half an hour straight (hard for me). So many deaths with bombs left on stuff right next to me that I just plain didn't see.. sighh... It's funny how when you get better at touhou, you die to supider things.

ahh here we go:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3682
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 23, 2009, 09:02:07 PM
After many, many more fails, I finally managed a playthrough where I did not degenerate into a total spaz on stage 4. That and the surprisingly low amount of deaths at Orin makes for a 1cc of SA hard mode. And by extension, all Windows Touhous hard 1cc'd. BOOYAH! The two deaths at Subterranean Sun were kind of annoying... I'd captured the card every attempt up til then. Nerves, I guess. Ah well, still a 1cc. :D

Replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3683

Which means, err... Lunatic next? >_< I reaaaally don't feel ready to get a Lunatic 1cc on any of the games - last I tried, I could barely beat them using most of the continues. Might try Hard 1ccing the PC-98 games first.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 23, 2009, 09:22:36 PM
Hum... I'm not sure if I can call it an accomplishment... but I could manage till Yuyuko's 80% Reflowering and Remilia's Scarlet Meister (Lunatic) with one credit these last days...

[edit]
MarisaA default lives at each one...

BTW, PCB I only 1cc'ed Lunatic with default lives with SakuyaB...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 23, 2009, 10:04:17 PM
Soo... first capture, finally. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3686)

Going to grind myself against these Stages I think. Though, bombing at the cost of 20-30 million isn't that hefty on the grand scale.

EDIT: I can see my way through it. No way.

EDIT 2: I've also now memorized the bomb points. Let's see if I can piece all this together.

I dare somebody to attempt to timeout Aya for MoF.

I'll accept Normal+ (Spell Cards only).

Just so you know what you're getting into...

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3687

Oh, and a one death, no bomb timeout of Aya's 2nd Spell Card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 23, 2009, 10:48:42 PM
Which means, err... Lunatic next?

You, sir, are now my rival.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 23, 2009, 11:00:37 PM
Which means, err... Lunatic next?

You, sir, are now my rival.

Ohoho, am I now? This makes things much more interesting. I guess I'd better start practicing, then!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 23, 2009, 11:02:01 PM
I have 1cc'd SA Easy without Right enough times that I'm seriously considering Normal, which is utter suicide.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 23, 2009, 11:57:06 PM
Stage 4 MoF: All Spell Cards captured, 90% perfect scoring run (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3688).

Arguably, Aya is now nothing more than a bump. Even the stage itself is more difficult. There are some very noticeable flaws in my current scoring scheme, but it's too difficult to iron out. Especially when I already have enough trouble trying to actually survive some of the waves.

Guess I should go revise for my exam which is on tomorrow, and then when I get back "home" (finally!), I should finish this run once and for all.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 24, 2009, 06:09:46 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3692

POSSESSED FAIRY CAPTURE. OMG. You may be wondering why I saved the replay if it's just that (and it is just that mind you; the rest of the run was pretty awful), but I ask that if you have spare time to watch that capture. That capture...it's the most beautiful thing I've ever done. It has been a LONG time since a capture has been so intense, so hopeless, yet still happened. Every single step of the way I SHOULD have died, but but lived through sheer luck.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on June 24, 2009, 07:01:45 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3693

I fail a few attacks I really have no business missing at all, but at least it's a 1LC.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 24, 2009, 08:01:10 AM
So I decide I should try IN's extra stage finally (never got around to it)...While I had to give up and retry the stage itself a few times (dying on the trash before the mid-boss isn't really cool, I just reset). The very first run where I actually got to the boss I beat her. lawl.

Is she the easiest extra boss in the series or am I just that much better all of a sudden? Some of her spellcards completely owned me because I didn't know what to expect, and hence, how to survive (the one where she shoots phoenix bullets that spawn more bullets sucks if you don't know what to do.. same with the one where she shoots these things that explode, and explode again.. the possesion one's aimed bullets owned me too..blah.

I don't know if I should be proud or not
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3695

Edit: I 1cc'd normal LLS too. Seemed pretty easy. Reimu was hard though (or maybe I just didn't know what to do), and I got killed by master spark like 3 times before I figured out OH CRAP MOVE when she was charging up..

I dunno but playing that game was hard on the eyes.. and I don't mean the graphics were bad. I mean the screen flickering and the choppy animation due to emulation was icky...gonna take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 24, 2009, 08:36:09 AM
So I decide I should try IN's extra stage finally (never got around to it)...While I had to give up and retry the stage itself a few times (dying on the trash before the mid-boss isn't really cool, I just reset). The very first run where I actually got to the boss I beat her. lawl.

Is she the easiest extra boss in the series or am I just that much better all of a sudden? Some of her spellcards completely owned me because I didn't know what to expect, and hence, how to survive (the one where she shoots phoenix bullets that spawn more bullets sucks if you don't know what to do.. same with the one where she shoots these things that explode, and explode again.. the possesion one's aimed bullets owned me too..blah.

I don't know if I should be proud or not
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3695

Edit: I 1cc'd normal LLS too. Seemed pretty easy. Reimu was hard though (or maybe I just didn't know what to do), and I got killed by master spark like 3 times before I figured out OH CRAP MOVE when she was charging up..

I dunno but playing that game was hard on the eyes.. and I don't mean the graphics were bad. I mean the screen flickering and the choppy animation due to emulation was icky...gonna take some getting used to.
People argue IN Extra as being one of the easiest. I say to them, try to "1-2LC it", and all of a sudden, it becomes difficult. MoF is easier in that regard, due to constant bomb replenishment. Regardless, IN Extra is easier than other Extra's. Actually, if it weren't for "Border Team" deathbomb windows (~2 seconds on Spell Cards, what?), you'll find yourself dying a lot more often.

According to donut, LLS Reimu is one of the most difficult bosses on Lunatic. From my (and donut's?) experience, at both Normal and Hard, Reimu is nothing compared to Lunatic's. There might be something you might be doing wrong, but I wouldn't have a clue.

Being Sparked is a (very common) newbie's mistake. We've all done it before, regardless of difficulty and skill level. Newbie in regards of being introduced to the game.

Screen flickering + choppy animation...? I don't seem to have that sort of problem. You will want that problem fixed ASAP. There might be a setting that you're leaving too high though. It should look like what I have in my videos (but more smoother, since I record at 30 FPS).

Probably, state the emulator, and I'll see if I can get a working combination going.

EDIT: stuff.

...ridiculous. I can do "Normal" Match Modes, and not "Hard". Maybe I should focus more of survival?

Not much of an accomplishment, but I can get maximum Spell Counter pretty easily these days.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 24, 2009, 06:18:53 PM
I just fought Kanako, capturing every attack except for her opener and VoWG. Of course, my stupid insistence on ALWAYS trying to capture VoWG caused me to die three times on it, but oh well.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 24, 2009, 07:13:30 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3696

EoSD Lunatic 1cc. PCB is next.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 24, 2009, 08:39:58 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3696

EoSD Lunatic 1cc. PCB is next.

Congrats Sodium! :D

I think I have a pretty long way to go before I can manage that... my first serious attempt just now didn't even get me halfway through Patchy. >_<
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengeku on June 24, 2009, 09:33:18 PM
People argue IN Extra as being one of the easiest. I say to them, try to "1-2LC it", and all of a sudden, it becomes difficult. MoF is easier in that regard, due to constant bomb replenishment. Regardless, IN Extra is easier than other Extra's. Actually, if it weren't for "Border Team" deathbomb windows (~2 seconds on Spell Cards, what?), you'll find yourself dying a lot more often.

Getting a 2LC of IN Extra is no sweat. I have done that several times. It is getting a 1LC that's the real challenge. You have to be almost perfect in order to accomplish such. The closest i have ever got to a 1LC was a run which was destroyed by downright embarrasing performance at Keine and Hollow Giant Woo. It pretty much went like this. Get to Keine. Deathbomb at the first spellcard (yes, that actually happened.), then beat the rest of her. Then deathbombing to a later and very easy part of the stage. Then i get another bomb and deathbomb at Hollow Giant Woo. And die to it afterwards. I only used one bomb at Mokou's final attack and i'm pretty sure i death-bombed her second-final attack. If i had restarted the run when i made those fuck-ups in the stage i would most likely have gotten a 1LC.

So, if you are going for a 1LC of the stage you can't afford any mess-ups mainly due to the Rings of Doom and partly Possesed by Phoenix. Aside from that there isn't much to worry about other than doing things fucking perfect.

That's why MoF is so much easier in that regard. You will have access to many more bombs than you will in IN Extra constantly replenishing them with power. As soon as you learn the more simple of Suwako's spells it wouldn't take much to 1LC her through bombing. I haven't done that yet though. I was stubborn, refused to bomb and died twice to Froggy Braves the Elements. Aside from that i didn't die.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 24, 2009, 10:52:55 PM
Hard 1cc'd LLS on my first attempt with three lives to spare. I know it's got a reputation for being easy but damn, it's an absolute joke compared to the hard mode of, say, SA. Either that or I just suck at SA which is probably true as well. Ah well, one more hard 1cc ticked off the list... only MS and SoEW to go.

And my last attempt at EoSD lunatic got me up to just before midboss Sakuya. I think I could make it to stage 6 if I cut out on the really stupid deaths, though - I died twice to CIRNO. <_< Those and at least two other deaths had at least two bombs remaining, so in theory I could be doing much better than I am, but in practice... it's, y'know, Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on June 25, 2009, 01:58:50 AM
Cleared Hard 1cc on Touhou 8 finally <333

I ended with 0 lives and 0 bombs. I think that's how most of my hard mode runs these days end(if I actually beat it). As a bonus, I even captured Kaguya's second final spell - why is that easier than on normal mode? They made the diamond spaces longer.

Also, I can't seem to pick final A. In this run I actually picked that choice, but either one sends me to Kaguya no matter what. I think my game is glitched. As such, I hope the replay is fine...

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3700
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 25, 2009, 09:02:48 AM
Playing with my love Gengetu tonight, I perfected the stage again. It turns out that the problem this WHOLE TIME was me not collecting the power at the start. When you do that, the section becomes trivial. >_>

When I reached Mugetu, I realized something: Since I've been perfecting the stage, it's become feasible to try beating the extra without dying. However, considering you get two bombs to work with, this is no easy task. Since I was also using Reimu A (homing one), this was even less feasible. So I thought a bit, and realized "wait, 8 lives? That's MUCH easier than no deaths!" So I went to see if I could beat the twin demons without bombing.

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8103/llsextranobombs.png)

What do ya know. I REALLY sucked, especially on Gengetu's second phase for some reason, but I won with a life to spare all the same.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 25, 2009, 12:02:04 PM
Stage 6 MoF: All Spell Cards captured (Hard) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3701). Further details on the page. No-bombing the stage is trivial enough, but I needed to touch up on scoring. Timing is very crucial it would seem.

Score-wise, it's horrendous. If I played like that during a normal scoring run, then I would've lost at least 20 million points... Maybe I should study a few more replays to find the perfect windows for bombing. Seeing as there is minimal risk here in comparison to Stage 4 that is.

Also, I seem to be able to consistently capture (~80%) "VoWG" at this difficulty... Which makes the History look better than... certain other Spell Cards at this difficulty.

And I won't be on for a while after this post. Reason is, I'm heading home! ...once I wake up, and check out that is...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on June 25, 2009, 01:59:46 PM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3702

PCB Lunatic 1cc. IN or MoF is next.

And I 1cc'd two Lunatics in 24 hours. >_> I did start attempting PCB Lunatic before EoSD Lunatic though.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 25, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
So I just somehow captured Emerald Megalith on lunatic...max rank. :O It didn't go easy on me either; I dodged through no less than two of its infamous walls.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 25, 2009, 09:31:11 PM
Well I can now officially say I've captured every easy/normal spell card. I'd already done the vast majority but today I got around to playing through easy/normal SA with the non-Reimu A characters and facing all the other Satori cards (some are pretty fun, Deep Mist Labyrinth is not one of the fun ones <_<), so yeah. Also, I timed out Mountain of Faith. :D
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 25, 2009, 11:52:24 PM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/untitled-32.jpg)

There, people can stop bugging me about this now.  Meister and Gensokyo can still die in a fire created from a shattered bottle of holy water, but with very liberal bombing throughout the run, I reached the end with enough lives to turn those last two cards into a war of attrition.  Entered Meister 2/2, used both bombs.  2/0 on Gensokyo, died, 1/3.  Without a second thought, bombed every giant wave, then managed to successfully dodge what remained of the fight.  Ended 1/0.

And the best part of the run: managed to ram Patchy at the PoC before Emerald Megalith, and still bombed it twice despite the drop in rank.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 25, 2009, 11:54:08 PM
Good, now start playing the PC-98 games. :O

Nah, good job. Now there's no excuse for you to say you're worse than me. *stares at blood covered wrists in disdain*
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 26, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
Beat PCB extra and stuff.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3703
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 26, 2009, 12:51:48 AM
Good, now start playing the PC-98 games. :O

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/untitled-33.jpg)

Why not.  Interestingly enough, it's the same amount of deaths and bombs as the EoSD 1cc I just did (if I'm reading the stats right, anyway).  Sure, it's really easy, but I don't have all that much experience with LLS, and it's far from being ground out to the extent that I've ground out some of the Windows stuff.  This was the first time I'd touched LLS in about 2 weeks, and 2 weeks ago was the first time I'd touched LLS at all, clearing Normal and Extra, and reaching Reimu on Lunatic.  Since I'd only played it so much, I may as well have been flying blind for a lot of the game.  The only part of the game I really remembered was when Reimu's bullets follow a Fantasy Heaven motion pattern, because you never forget it when an attack blindsides you and causes a game over.  My memory of the rest of the game was so bad, I managed to get Sparked in Stage 5 despite how -painfully FUCKING obvious- it is, deathbombing the attack, then dying to it anyway because I'm still sitting in the center of the screen just as it fades away.



Edit: Haha, it's been a while since there's been an epic Krim choke.  Not touching this again until someone tells me why I keep getting utterly destroyed by Alice's Paint Smudges of Death.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/untitled-34.jpg)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 26, 2009, 02:00:57 AM
Is it me, or Youmu solo is the best thing ever? On that single run, I managed to capture the first four Last Spells, almost reached Reisen's (200 time points short) and wiped Kaguya's face out of the earth easily.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 26, 2009, 02:28:30 AM
Finally!

I got a Yukari No bomb or border clear. With Reimu B.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 26, 2009, 02:31:55 AM
Hey Krim, what shot type did you use to do that? I'm jealous. D:
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 26, 2009, 03:53:34 AM
Mima

What's there to be jealous about?  I suck at fighting Ex Alice.



Edit: I realized it's a bit ambiguous what you're asking since I posted about two different games.  I used MarisA in LLS and Mima in MS.  Either way though, I'm not sure what there is to be jealous about.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 26, 2009, 04:16:32 AM
Ah, that makes sense. See, as I have discovered, Marisa A is akin to Sakuya A in PCB in that they are both completely broken. Marisa A does an obscene amount of damage with almost no drawbacks, destroying phases three times as fast as Reimu A. Not that your run isn't legit, it's just a much easier game with her.

I'm jealous because I've never beaten LLS lunatic with more than a life to spare, and you can do that less than a month after first touching the game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 26, 2009, 04:44:51 AM
A life to spare?
I guess I did it before....
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 26, 2009, 05:13:01 AM
Hm?  SakuyA isn't broken.  She's got craptastic damage, the worst cherry rate in the game (which makes up for her extra bomb), and her homing isn't nearly as useful as ReimuA in EoSD, because of less random boss movement.  She might be easier to use and has a few parts where she shines (lolst6fairyspam), but with practice most of what she does can be replicated just as well or better with the other characters.

Now, Sakuya B on the other hand... she just rapes everything.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 26, 2009, 05:16:10 AM
Except her excellent damage is offset by her WHY AM I DYING speed.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 26, 2009, 05:18:21 AM
I did a cold lunatic run with Sakuya A a few months ago, the first one I did in months. No restarts, I died with bombs in stock 4 times, but I could STILL bomb spam so many times I still 1cc'd. And I've seen runs where someone cleared phantasm bombing almost every spell card, spamming bombs to time out BoLaD, and still having enough left over to bomb spam Danmaku Bounded Field. THAT'S broken.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 26, 2009, 06:18:05 AM
Well, she's really good at basic survival (thus the comment that she's easy to use), but basic survival is just about all she's good at.  For card capturing, stage perfecting, playing for score etc. etc., there are far better choices out there.  That's why very few Lunatic players use her as their main; aside from getting an easy 1cc, she's inferior to most everybody else.  It's not like, say, SA ReimuA where she's far and away the absolute best at absolutely everything.  She's got tons of flaws.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 26, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
True enough, but I still don't like her at all. When people main her, it hinders their development as a player, yet still allows them an easy win.

However, Marisa A in LLS in kind of the opposite, because other than have a smaller range than other shot types (and even then not near to the extent of, say, EoSD/PCB Marisa A), she HAS no flaws. She is far and away the strongest shot type in the game, doing literally over twice as much damage as the homing type. While I don't have any hard data, I can say that while bomb spamming Yuka's final phase, it takes Reimu A 3 bombs to end while shotgunning (not counting her death from running out of bombs), while it takes Marisa A one (and bombs do the same amount of damage as far as I can tell). She is the very definition of broken.








EDIT TO KEEP FROM DOUBLE POSTING: I think I just figured out something about Hanged Hourai Dolls, but I'm not sure. I think its infamous walls are actually aimed at your position, and you have to move to find the opening a fair ways away. Maybe it's obvious to everyone else, but it wasn't to me. >_> Also, that was one sick capture of it I made if I do say so myself, because I went through like 3 pixel perfect openings.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ghaleon on June 26, 2009, 08:00:26 AM
1cc'd hard pcb for my first time with ReimuB.. I think it was B.. the one with persuasion needle.

I'm not sure if I like her or marissa A more...
edit: oops:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3710
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 26, 2009, 09:17:58 AM
So finally got to unlock Youmu's Last Word, with what must have been my best IN run so far (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3711).

Oh, and also:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3712
...Yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 26, 2009, 12:02:41 PM
Hi guys, I'm set back up. Now to do MoF Scoring...

...while it takes Marisa A one (and bombs do the same amount of damage as far as I can tell). She is the very definition of broken.
Speaking of which, I almost captured it in my video, now that I look at it.
MarisaA is broken. Then I had to deathbomb  ;_;. Broken, broken MarisaA. That is all.

Edit: Haha, it's been a while since there's been an epic Krim choke.  Not touching this again until someone tells me why I keep getting utterly destroyed by Alice's Paint Smudges of Death.

Image (http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/untitled-34.jpg)
Erm... a little more detail? I do have theory on all the phases if it helps.

And an unspectacular (actually, more like embarrassing) first Phantasm clear, with 0/1. Hooray for 3 Spell Card captures, one which isn't Yukari's First. So to speak, I failed just about every basic Spell Card.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie on June 26, 2009, 05:33:21 PM
Huzzah, Mystic Square Normal 1CC!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 26, 2009, 05:34:14 PM
Regarding Alice's Paint Smudges, I don't really know what's going on.  I guess it's not too bad, but I'm just kinda annoyed that I'm getting slammed by an aimed attack when I'm doing an unfocused sprint across the screen.

I ended up trying again anyway and managed to finish 0/3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 26, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
Virtue of the Wind God.get();

YES! I finally got it! At least my record is 14 on the computer, but I know it's more like 1/35.

BUT I GOT IT! YES!

... I should so be able to 1cc things now on Lunatic.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 27, 2009, 12:27:26 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3717

Finally pulled off a perfect PCB stage 2 lunatic run. I couldn't agree more with Marisa: "That was a pointless battle with a pointless person."

EDIT: Less of an accomplishment, I but I also beat PCB stage 3 with no deaths and only two bombs (a border break on Spring Kyoto Dolls though).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 27, 2009, 02:08:28 AM
Take that!

Stage 4 midbosses of LLS. I believe I have found a way to do them relatively consistently...

Whew, going to analyze it a bit more before I finalize a publication of it.

EDIT: UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Almost got Yuka's Final Phase with MarisaB.

Game Over'd on it because I was hanging by a thread, from dying with bombs in stock too many times. Especially at Reimu.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Iryan on June 27, 2009, 12:16:58 PM
LLS extra clear!

The first time I got beyond Gengetu's spark phase, too. The spark itself is not a problem, the other pattern of that phase is a pain. Dodged it without death or bombing only once. Getting an additional extend directly afterwards helped, though.  :V

So, only SoEW extra left. But am I really that masochistic?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on June 27, 2009, 09:03:05 PM
Attempted a run of PoFV Lunatic for the hell of it, managed to get Shiki down to half an orb before losing my last life, which is pretty good considering I was having trouble 1ccing Normal the last time I played it.

That's not the accomplishment though.  The reason I played PoFV is to warm up my eye for random bullshit so I could read Hell God Sword consistently enough to do PCB Stage 5 no deaths/no bombs/no borders broken. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3723)  Around the end of PoFV, the entire game basically becomes Hell God Sword without the slowdown: bullets of all sizes surrounding your sorry ass in no particular pattern.

I think it worked.  I haven't failed Hell God Sword the three times I tried it today (I have, however, failed boss noncard 1 on multiple occasions, and Asura Sword once today).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 27, 2009, 09:17:28 PM
KYA HA HA HA, I BEAT YOU TO THIS ONE! SUCK IT DOWN!!!!

Er...never mind. Good job, y-yeah. ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Nuclear Fusion on June 28, 2009, 05:28:36 AM
Perfect Nitori run, finally. I'm glad I've finally figured out how to do Spin the Cephalic Plate. It's fun now.

One death on the stage, though. I could probably easily turn this into a perfect stage 3.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 28, 2009, 07:43:05 AM
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5181/poddhard.png)

PoDD hard 1cc. I ended up clearing with 2 lives remaining, and I must say that fight with Yumemi (beat her on my first life BTW) was one of the most intense fights I've ever been in in Touhou.

...I have only to beat lunatic, and I have beaten every PC-98 on lunatic, and only PoFV lunatic would stand in my way of beating every main series (meaning not counting IaMP and SWR) Touhou game on lunatic. Do I dare take the plunge...?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 28, 2009, 12:07:18 PM
Holy crap. Perfect 5 Magic Stones run. Maybe I should experiment with Luantic's for the sake of it.

EDIT: And a 2 bomb, 1 life clear of Marisa. I started with "Blue" power as well.

EDIT 2: Mima is really poorly designed, so I just bomb spammed her, and survived. Finished 2/1. Note that on the final life, I get 5 bombs as well, so...

PoDD Lunatic.
Go for it man.

Oh, and I'll say that PoFV Lunatic is more or less a complete joke if you know what you're doing.

Improved MoF scoring techniques. Though, I seriously doubt that I'll be able to reach the 2 billion point cap. It's just too difficult.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: fallensoul on June 28, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
PoFV Lunatic is too easy... seriously... D:


[edit]
SoEW Lunatic... I think the boss battles are the same way as they are at Hard...
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Dino_246 on June 28, 2009, 06:31:16 PM
I don't practice stages, so I don't have any accomplishments.....sadness...

Wait....once I did manage to clear wriggle nightbug's last word with solo marisa....no focus, and then I did it again with no focus and no lateral movement, just up and down....yeah it's possible...but it's left up to A. chance, and B. twitch.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 28, 2009, 06:32:03 PM
They are. Lunatic is the exact same thing as hard except that enemies shoot two aimed bullets upon their death. It actually makes things hard at some places, but yeah, lunatic is a tiny jump. The bosses don't change at all.

And Baity, you perfected the magic stones? That means you know how to dodge that caving in green spam during the survival phase. Can you tell me how?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: newcashcash on June 28, 2009, 06:48:38 PM
PoFV Lunatic is too easy... seriously... D:
It is easy to 1CC Lunatic Story-mode indeed.,even 2LC Lunatic is not that hard....
However it will be much harder to 1LC Lunatic without using Aya or Medicine.

BTW, the best way to improve PoFV skill is to play with the others, especially with someone better than you. Even playing with AI in Lunatic match-mode would be more efficient than Story-mode.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on June 28, 2009, 07:11:51 PM
First-ever PCB extra mode clear <3~ Ended with 0/2. The last card kind of freaked me out and I ended up dying and bombing through it XD, it was my first time on that card.

...ALMOST had that time-out card, too. That one was my... fourth try I think? Dunno.

Also, I beat nintendonut's first-ever Extra clear score. For some reason, this gives me great pleasure. Every single one of my firsts is like four or five places below his. Sorry donut :X

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3727
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 29, 2009, 12:16:46 AM
And Baity, you perfected the magic stones? That means you know how to dodge that caving in green spam during the survival phase. Can you tell me how?
What I do is first stay in the center for a certain time period (the exact counting I'm working on), then move to one side, quickly move to the other side to stream direct the bullets, wait a bit more, move back to the area where I first moved towards, and there should be enough space for you to bypass the walling. I had to also move up the screen a fair bit to bypass the said walling. Not even sure if that's exactly what I did (didn't record  ;_;), but that's the base of it.

I think it's definitely easier to explain with a video, but that will have to wait for the new month since we're approaching a cap. Brother went on a downloading spree for the last 2 months while I was living away.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 29, 2009, 12:31:22 AM
Finally! Yes! Yes! Yes!

The goal I've been working on since I started playing Touhou. I've finally 1cc'ed EoSD Normal!

I'm so happy right now I can't even tell you what kind of happy dances I want to do. Time to practice Extra and work on the next goal of defeating Flandre.

Gawd yes! I'm so freaking happy right now!
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 29, 2009, 01:54:55 AM
SoEW Extra unlocked! Fun~

That is, I've 1cc'd Hard all shot types. ReimuA (Speed / Spread) is the most fun to play. Too bad it's the weakest  ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 29, 2009, 02:02:21 AM
Ah ha ha ha. Fun. Good one. >_> We'll see if you still have that attitude by the end of it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 29, 2009, 02:21:01 AM
Ah ha ha ha. Fun. Good one. >_> We'll see if you still have that attitude by the end of it.
It would certainly be nice if I could have Full Power. And that last Extend!. Might have to consider bombing for score.
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/soeew10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=218&u=12803292)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 29, 2009, 03:12:51 AM
Hey, LLS lunatic 1cc.  Don't worry, I used non-broken (at least not as much) MarisaB.

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/747/llsvictory.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/llsvictory.jpg/)

This was a pretty average first run.  Not much to say about the game itself that hasn't already been said; stages are boring streaming, Kurumi's second phase is retarded, Reimu is RIDICULOUSLY FUN even if she's hard as balls(hurr), and Yuka's final boss fight jumps in difficulty from pathetic to bullshit and back again several times.  Pretty neat game.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 29, 2009, 03:16:24 AM
Aww, the stages are fun, even if they're pretty tame. I think it's the music, plus when the game wants to be it's pretty hardcore stuff.

And damn it everyone needs to stop 1ccing lunatic their first try.  :'( Is it simply because it was my first lunatic and I was barely even a hard player (I had beaten all hard modes except MoF [and SA, which didn't exist yet :V], but none were on default lives) back then?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 29, 2009, 04:25:31 AM
Jumping to the PC-98 Bandwagon.
1cc of PoDD on Normal with Marisa. Last stage was pretty hard, I finished it on the last hit of my last life.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 29, 2009, 05:02:21 AM
I think that the stage portion of SoEW Extra is quite interesting. Too bad that I bomb the somewhat easy pre-boss waves...
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/uhuhuh10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=219&u=12803292)

Defeating EES will be a different story though.

EDIT: WTF. Hey donut... what's with the "Pillar of Light"? I game over'd on it.

And those giant bullets of doom have nothing on me.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 29, 2009, 05:14:40 AM
You...what? You all but beat her on your first try?

Slicing my wrists is not enough. brb getting saw.

But that's her suicide laser. So you basically got hit by her "IF I GO DOWN I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME!" attack. :P
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on June 29, 2009, 05:18:22 AM
You...what? You all but beat her on your first try?

Slicing my wrists is not enough. brb getting saw.

But that's her suicide laser. So you basically got hit by her "IF I GO DOWN I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME!" attack. :P
Don't cut yourself  ;_;

Not my first try, but within my 10th. So... I game over'd on her self-destruct phase... great.

Oh well, ran again and got a clear (just then) then with 1 life remaining.
With the "Defense" shot type.

EDIT: ...my hand hurts.

EDIT 2: Whew, that was a nice puzzle. I actually like the SoEW Extra stage. EES can go blow up like the Flower Tank though.

EDIT 3: Do I dare try to clear with the worst shot type? i.e. the Spread shot type.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on June 29, 2009, 05:25:49 AM
I can get to Satori on Normal without Right. Although, I think my extent will be midboss Orin, as anything after that is just a barrel of deaths or spastic bombing. I want to do more, but I just can't.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on June 30, 2009, 12:45:08 AM
Damn... progress on EoSD Lunatic is slow. >_< I didn't realise how big the jump from Hard to Lunatic would be, especially at Remilia. I've reached her a few times, but man... I get completely slaughtered. I mean, I can barely clear stage 6 lunatic on practice mode. I guess I just need to practice bomb management and, well, get better at dodging things. <_<

Also, as a random side note, is it just me or is the whole rank system much more visible on Lunatic than any of the other difficulties? I never really noticed it before on Normal or Hard, but it really shows now, especially on things like Emerald Megalith. The bullets became noticably slower after a death on that card, and it went from hellish to not that bad (still died to it again though on that run <_____<).
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 30, 2009, 01:48:22 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3743

Most definitely the best EoSD extra run I've ever done. I bombed twice on the stage (death fairy and Philosopher's Stone augh), but I proceeded to only die once on Flandre (on Catadioptric), and only bombed once on Starbow Break. I captured 10 spell cards overall, including Q.E.D, ending 3/3. I don't particularly care about beating this stage no deaths, but this certainly proves that it's possible~
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Azinth on June 30, 2009, 09:30:38 PM
Hey, IN lunatic 1cc. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3747)

Absolutely TERRIBLE run with embarrassing deaths everywhere, but after my last... heartbreaking attempt, (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=26.msg28251#msg28251) I'm just glad to have gotten this over with.  And with that I've now beaten all the one player Touhou lunatics!  :D 

...Eh?  What's that you say?  Story of Eastern what?  I don't know what you're talking about.  :V
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on June 30, 2009, 09:39:25 PM
Go ahead and stay away from it. At this point, it's all I have left in the way of unique accomplishments. ;_; Well, I guess HRtP lunatic is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on June 30, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
Not sure if it's really an accomplishment, but I dodged three waves in a row of "Loafing Sign - Idling Wave" on Normal, with the Magic Team, no-focus, no-horizontal.

It's mostly luck, as you have to go full speed in a wall of 10 bullets and hope nothing hits you, but it's a nice time-waster.

EDIT : Great. Now I'm 0/169 on this spellcard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 01, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
Oh, hey there.
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5617/podd.png)
Could have been a 1LC, but no, Yumemi had to be a bitch and spam me with crosses and flames at the same time.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kojiremi on July 01, 2009, 08:54:03 AM
Sup Guys ^_^ I have an accomplishment to Share!
Right there http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3740

I was playign IN and tryin to capture Kaguya's 4th Imperishable Night's End. and i SAT in the MIDDLE of the spell and got out! The timing for that is really small and very hard to pull off haha. took me 157 tries to do it. I realized though that i did it on normal. I'ma try lunatic later to see if i can pull that one off too!
I was REALLY excited pulling it off.
i went inside because as i was doing the spell a few times trying to capture it i noticed that there is a significantly big space in the center. i thought " I wonder if you can sit there and be safe?"  *goes inside and  doesn't get hit* OH SHIT AWESOME! *gets hit by red bullets* awww...i wonder if i can get OUT quickly enough and beat it? *takes 157 tries* YESSSS!!!
I guess this is a stunt replay. Not used to doing stunts but i was playing around with it and trying to get the win that way. Enjoy mates ^_^ i wonder if you guys can pull it off too? or better?  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 01, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
...I think I just found a "method" to capture "Bury In Lake" consistently. Even under random boss movement. There isn't much of a method to begin with though.

And one "Emerald Megalith", not at Max Rank, but not at Base Rank either. I will admit that the Spell Card went easy (or rather, easier) on me though. Now if I could just reach it at Max, and go for a capture... that would be interesting.

...Damn, that would've been a perfect Boss run, if I didn't have to bomb Water Elf because I wanted to avoid timeout.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on July 02, 2009, 12:18:35 AM
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3758 (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3758)

This is by far the best run I've done so far until Stage 5. Including awesome score.

And then I lose all six lives doing incredibly stupid things.

Fuck you MoF.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 02, 2009, 07:31:14 AM
I have...

-"Rings of Death" capture! No replay... I might as well try to time it out now. For that reason. If I didn't prioritize scoring instead of general survival, I would've gotten a 1LC. "Imperishable Shooting" is still giving me nightmares though, even though it's entirely static.
-"Galaxy in a Pot" timeout (Lunatic) (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3762). Not too special. Though, it's fun.
-"Brilliant Dragon Bullet" theorized completely. Consistent capturing at ~70%.
-"Salamander Shield" no horizontal capture. Easy enough, until timeout is brought into it. I'm quite positive no focus is also positive.

The other Cards aren't unlocked, so they'll have to wait I suppose. Although, they're not that interesting since everybody should know how to do them by now.

And no, I'm not going to 1cc IN Lunatic at this very moment, because I'm out of practice for IN. I'm "out of practice" to the point where I fail Stage 3 horribly.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Pako on July 02, 2009, 07:34:55 AM
I recently started playing the "old" touhou games and I have unlocked Extra stage in Mystic Square after mine second try~. But the extra stage is really damn hard.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Krimmydoodle on July 02, 2009, 07:52:05 AM
"Imperishable Shooting" is still giving me nightmares though, even though it's entirely static.

In my experience, Imperishable Shooting isn't static.  You learn this when you get desperate for capturing the spell card, say "fuck this" and try to learn safespots outside the various rings such that you'll pass through as the rings expand off-screen.  Try it.  Stay outside the first ring, and experiment with positioning until you randomly survive a wave (perhaps using the Human/Youkai meter as a form of measurement for your position).  Then retry the card and sit in the same spot.  It won't always work, therefore, the card isn't static.


Edit for a little more substantial proof:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th082009-07-0201-25-54-75.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g229/Krimsun_Munkey/th082009-07-0201-26-28-66.jpg

The above are images of the beginning of the fourth phase, with the five circles that appear one at a time.  The peaks of expansion are indicated by the bullets whose sprites aren't overlapped by anything else, and their locations stick out like a sore thumb.  The directions in which the ring will expand are clearly different in the two scenarios.  Not static.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kojiremi on July 02, 2009, 08:22:50 AM

In my experience, Imperishable Shooting isn't static.  You learn this when you get desperate for capturing the spell card, say "fuck this" and try to learn safespots outside the various rings such that you'll pass through as the rings expand off-screen.  Try it.  Stay outside the first ring, and experiment with positioning until you randomly survive a wave (perhaps using the Human/Youkai meter as a form of measurement for your position).  Then retry the card and sit in the same spot.  It won't always work, therefore, the card isn't static.
yeah....sadly i can say as well it aint static ._. i'm trying it for the 50+ time so far tryin to capture it. i can't get past the 4th iteration (set of waves) at the moment at all. and i dare say its not stati for those 4 waves at least....its such a hard patient one. But anyway why do you say its static? got some sort of idea?
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 02, 2009, 08:39:41 AM
Well, I'll be damned. It always looked static to me.

Maybe it's because I've used the same set of movements every time, and always end up in the same spots, performing the same wall jumps, etc. Like a standard flow. Never really noticed.

In other news, I survived the "Rings of Death" for a substantial 18 seconds. Definitely a record.

EDIT: cleared more scenes in StB. Working my way up very slowly... Maybe I shouldn't prioritize score  >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Garlyle on July 02, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Jumping towards the PC-98 bandwagon but missing by a few inches, I managed to record a (sorta laggy) Hard/Lunatic run of Story of Eastern Wind, the SoEW remake/update.  A couple of things make it easier - focusing and item-auto-collect exist - but bombing is a bit weaker, I think.  A couple odd things about the game have been noted; one of which is that although it says "Normal" and "Hard" as the only difficulty settings for the main game, Hard is actually Lunatic difficulty.  And second, unlike every other Touhou game and fangame out there, if the game drops below 60 FPS, it still moves at full speed - which ramps up difficulty further when it's tough to gauge proper speed.  It also does odd things to Meira's Momizi's slash patterns for reasons I can't even begin to understand, and to the credits...

Regardless, I'm uploading it onto YouTube, starting with This Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl3cg5AZdXY&feature=channel_page), and there's already a full Normal Mode run as Sanae (TIMELINE CONSISTENCY WUT?) if you wanna see Marisa and Mima's fight updated, as I haven't fully uploaded everything as of this post.  Next I have to brace myself and go after the game's two (!) Extra Stages... both of which are bull.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Drake on July 02, 2009, 09:41:13 PM
I found a lol way to dodge Tengu Fall Wind.

In other words I TAS'd the Aya fight but it ended up really shitty so I'm not posting it.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 02, 2009, 10:14:09 PM
I performed 2 perfect deathbombs in a single IN Stage Practice. Not sure if the "perfect" window is extended for the Border Team though.

Either way, that's shows you that my reflexes are getting better to some degree.

I'm going to start recording LLS Lunatic now. Pray that I can do Yuka's Final Phase with MarisaB.

EDIT: And after, Stage 4 EoSD Lunatic.

Current Status:

Done LLS. Started Reimu with 8 lives, 0 bombs, and died 3 times.
Finished 3/1


The video capturing for EoSD Lunatic Stage 4 lagged several times due to the number of bullets on screen.

...and I had an awesome run going as well. Apart from being smacked by a laser, a clipdeath (not a wall) on "Bury in Lake", it was fine. Though, it did mean that I didn't take on "Emerald Megalith" at Max Rank.

I might have to down the graphics a bit or something.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on July 03, 2009, 12:06:15 AM
Captured Loafing Sign - Idling Wave on Normal with the Magic Team, No-Focus, No-Horizontal, on my 856th try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHa2fsZ91Ns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHa2fsZ91Ns)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Yukkuri on July 03, 2009, 01:59:09 AM
First time I beat Mokou.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 03, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2639/dreamofawin.png)

PoDD lunatic 2cc. I lost to Chiyuri (first time reaching her on lunatic though), but won on my second continue without breaking a sweat. Maybe it was a fluke...but maybe it's not. Either way, this gives me a (foolishly) renewed sense of hope.

But I wish more than one person was trying this. The only two people I know who have 1cc'd PoDD lunatic, much less seriously attempted it are Trancehime and Ruro.









EDIT: Actually... Hey Baity, do you think your spell card theory could apply to PoDD? *makes puppy eyes* There's a number of attacks where if I knew how they worked my chances of survival would increase exponentially.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on July 03, 2009, 11:17:03 AM
This is more a personal accomplishment than anything else, but here goes  :P

Lunatic PCB default lives 1CC as Reimu B.  Nothing too special about that, except for the fact that I haven't played PCB in forever and the only lunatic clear of it was a max lives bombspam run as SakuyaB.  It's just kind of proof of how much better I've gotten, where I can waltz through what I used to think was impossible.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 03, 2009, 11:29:57 AM
EDIT: Actually... Hey Baity, do you think your spell card theory could apply to PoDD? *makes puppy eyes* There's a number of attacks where if I knew how they worked my chances of survival would increase exponentially.
Tried once with a small amount of success, because everything was flying everywhere. Regardless, I'll try it again; just point out the ones you wish to know about, and I'll see if something insightful occurs to me. I'll be recording a few matches here and there this time as well. Which is something I should probably do every time from now on.

Oh, and a tip on Stage 6 LLS Hard / Lunatic, Yuka's Final Phase:
Use diagonal movement at the bottom of the screen to fit between the spaces. That's how I managed to fit between the spaces 3-4 times before bombing. Trying to fit between the ridiculously small spaces and reading the waves simultaneously is still difficult unfortunately.

Also, I think I just found out how to deal with Stage 5 LLS Hard / Lunatic, Yuka's Final Phase. Going to test it in between theorizing PoDD tomorrow.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 03, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
In particular, there are three things I wish to know: Reimu's level 2/3 spell, Mima's level 2/3 spell, and Chiyuri's boss attack.













EDIT: I'd like to thank Azinth for his unintentional tip about the second half of EoSD stage 5. I had never noticed that 95% of the bullets are aimed away from you, and the entire second half is now trivial.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: DarkslimeZ on July 03, 2009, 10:40:19 PM
Yay, I beat Mokou for the first time. Comments are in the download page ~.~

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3771

I totally screw up Possessed by Phoenix in this; usually I do it fine and can't survive the blue bullet barrage anyway. The precision you need to move down that slow and still not get hit is... kind of ridiculous. ^^;

Not a spectacular clear, but hey, it's a clear.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Kojiremi on July 03, 2009, 11:05:39 PM
Yay, I beat Mokou for the first time. Comments are in the download page ~.~

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3771

I totally screw up Possessed by Phoenix in this; usually I do it fine and can't survive the blue bullet barrage anyway. The precision you need to move down that slow and still not get hit is... kind of ridiculous. ^^;

Not a spectacular clear, but hey, it's a clear.

Yeah i can't move down and slowly either. I just move in circles around the edges and move inbetween the slow moving bullets ahead of me and avoid the ones behind me easily enough. I never could stay someplace and move super slowly haha. just wasn't happening.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sodium on July 03, 2009, 11:29:16 PM
EDIT: I'd like to thank Azinth for his unintentional tip about the second half of EoSD stage 5. I had never noticed that 95% of the bullets are aimed away from you, and the entire second half is now trivial.
You didn't know? >_>
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: LHCling on July 04, 2009, 12:55:26 AM
In particular, there are three things I wish to know: Reimu's level 2/3 spell, Mima's level 2/3 spell, and Chiyuri's boss attack.
Reimu's is aimed with a randomness factor (the orbs are aimed in your general direction in other words). I also found that it also generally tends to stay symmetrical if you're right in the center though. There isn't much else to this unfortunately.

Mima's is an entirely different case. As you may have noted, it fires from one corner. But, there are two distinct waves within it; circles and lines. It is most notable when the attack has just finished launching, like this:
(http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/12/80/32/92/th/poddtu10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=223&u=12803292)
Yellow marks circles. Red marks the lines. White cross marks the casting point (which appears to be random, not entirely sure). As Rank increase, the lines become closer to the first (outermost) circle.

Chiyuri's Boss Attack is... random. Very random. Except for the one where she shoots snowballs back and forth in a zig-zag-like pattern. A "safe zone" (not safespot) occurs in all positions diagonal relative to her position. In short; circles, more circles, random parallel (to some degree) cross-shaped walls. That's all I can see at this point.

The question is, how to deal with these? It is something I'm still looking at and testing.

Regardless, I do hope that helps.

LLS Lunatic run fully uploaded. Now waiting for processing.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 04, 2009, 05:26:58 AM
Knowing how Mima's level 2/3 spell is formed actually helps immensely, thanks. New request: Yumemi's Shinki-esque wall spam during her boss attack.

Speaking of:

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1754/finalenemyapproaches.png)

I reached Yumemi on my first continue, even with a life to spare. To my dismay though, she would not go down on that or any subsequent continues. ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 04, 2009, 06:24:55 AM
I know, late late late, but...

According to my observations, every single wave in Imperishable Shooting is aimed to a point.  The first wave is more or less static, assuming you don't move until the shot is fired.  I've noticed on that wave you can more or less dodge a single tap to the right and all the way down, then move straight up once the ring expands past halfway and make it through.

After seeing the second wave over a hundred times (and probably 200 more before I cap it once), it's obviously not static at all - the two bursts are slightly off-center, and the second wave moves around.

Third wave is more or less static in terms of positioning, but the burst points change depending on your position.

Fourth wave is the same.

Fifth and sixth waves have their burst points slightly offset, so you can go in.

Anything beyond that...  *shrugs*  Haven't gotten past wave 6 yet.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: SP on July 04, 2009, 06:26:04 AM
Posted my lunatic clear : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olZNKLWJE8&fmt=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olZNKLWJE8&fmt=22)

Nothing all that special (but with nice points, like capturing hanged hourai dolls and Res. Butterfly), might be interesting for someone wanting to see lunatic on youtube.
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Sapz on July 04, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
Goddamnit, I just got Scarlet Gensokyo'd. I guess that means I'm pretty close to the 1cc, but damn, that card lasts for SO LONG. @_@
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Tenbatsu! Myon Rabbie on July 04, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
Yaay, Lotus Land Story 1CC with Hard Modo :3
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: Generalguy on July 04, 2009, 01:56:41 PM
In Touhoumon Lunatic, fighting Reimu 1-on-1 for 10 minutes. In a double battle. Yeah.

I'm actually quite pissed at this, but at first I thought I would need to grind for 20 hours to clear that battle (level 98s WTF), so I'm pretty happy about this anyway. EARTHQUAKE!!!

Here's the video where Reimu annoys for 10 minutes, forcing me to use the Poke Flute a dozen times and using X Specials so Giovanni couldn't use a Full Restore AGAIN :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA714taCP88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA714taCP88)

Here's how I got there :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHpTyoNhwQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjHpTyoNhwQ)
Title: Re: Touhou Accomplishments
Post by: nintendonut888 on July 04, 2009, 07:52:39 PM
Congrats, this thread has finally reached its locking post. That's something of an accomplishment...right?