Black Stories ~ Touhou Edition - Case 20: Down to the bottom of Misty Lake!

[Prody]

Did the man shoot himself against his will?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did the man shoot himself against his will?

NO

INFO:
For future use of colored theories, please use aqua instead of blue from now on. It's easier to read on the dark background.

[Fightest]

Hmm, not sure what to do now, as there can be any amount of reasons that would cause a sane and healthy man to shoot himself just by looking at something, and that's just when it's assumed he is in the safety of his own home.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Hmm, not sure what to do now, as there can be any amount of reasons that would cause a sane and healthy man to shoot himself just by looking at something, and that's just when it's assumed he is in the safety of his own home.

Oh Sir Fightest, it seems you are at a loss of ideas, but I have no doubt that this is only because you are yet unfamiliar with this game.

Only for now, let me give you some advice as to how you might want to work your way towards the truth:
These riddles almost never represent something that happens every day.
As it is, you should assume that there is something special about the man in question and the situation surrounding him as well.
Ask for details that allow you to figure out more about the man and the situation he was in, and you shall be rewarded with the truth.

It is a rule of these riddles that often one single detail will be enough to clear up most of the confusion that surrounds it.
So ask away, no matter how unlikely an idea might be.

[Fightest]

Only for now, let me give you some advice as to how you might want to work your way towards the truth:
These riddles almost never represent something that happens every day.
As it is, you should assume that there is something special about the man in question and the situation surrounding him as well.

Aah, I was hoping for that. Game on, then!

Was the man in the safety of his own home when he shot himself?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Was the man in the safety of his own home when he shot himself?

Safety: YES / Own Home: NO. This answer might be debatable, but 'no' should be the best way to lead you on the right path.

Also, you should never forget that you are not alone and this is not a competition.
If you have no more cluse, wait for others to ask questions. They might think of something that you did not notice.

NOTE: I'm giving a bit more hints than usual because this is the first game and it is sometimes hard to grasp how the riddles work. That will change once we get to the second case.

[Fightest]

Is there any other window that the man could have looked through, or was this one the only one? Specifically, "other window" signifies a window that would let the man see something else entirely; a second window next to the original one that faces the same thing would not count.

[Pesco]

The man was a burglar/thief. He looked outside the window and saw the police had caught him. Suicide was his only solution.

[OkashiiKisei]

Was the person outside alive?

Was the person outside female?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Is there any other window that the man could have looked through, or was this one the only one? Specifically, "other window" signifies a window that would let the man see something else entirely; a second window next to the original one that faces the same thing would not count.

NO. There are probably other windows in existence, but looking thorugh any of them would not have resulted in the same events

The man was a burglar/thief. He looked outside the window and saw the police had caught him. Suicide was his only solution.

NO

Was the person outside alive?

NO

Was the person outside female?

IRRELEVANT

[Rin Kagamine]

The man looked outside, saw zombie(s) and killed himself

[Fightest]

The man looked outside, saw zombie(s) and killed himself

Doesn't this violate the non-supernatural law?

[edit] Here's an idea:

The man got in a fight and accidentally pushed his opponent out of the window, which was high up. His opponent died from the fall. Seeing this, the man committed suicide from shock/guilt.

[edit] If not true: was the death of the person outside caused by events or objects also outside?
[edit] Was the person outside ever alive to begin with?

[Rin Kagamine]

Doesn't this violate the non-supernatural law?

Depends, did this man correctly believe that zombies exist?

[OkashiiKisei]

Doesn't this violate the non-supernatural law?

Wait, no super natural stuff?

Awww, I was hoping to conclude the case with the claim that it was either Koishi hax or Flandre being her psychotic self that freaked the guy into suicide.....

[Dead Princess Sakana]

The man looked outside, saw zombie(s) and killed himself

NO

I suppose I shall have to make it clear that the solutions to all riddles are to be found in the sphere of reality, unless it is stated otherwise. I apologize for not stating this clearly at the beginning.
I do not mind, however, if you present me with theories as the one above, as having fun is a crucial part of the game.

Depends, did this man correctly believe that zombies exist?

Ohoh, an interesting thought. There are indeed riddles in which the way an individual in the case incorrectly perceives the events is of relevance for solving it, however the case right now is not one of those.

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Awww, I was hoping to conclude the case with the claim that it was either Koishi hax or Flandre being her psychotic self that freaked the guy into suicide.....

Touhou riddles might come later, if I or someone else creates some. That will not be before several cases have been played, however, so that everyone has a basic idea of how the logic of the game works.

[Pesco]

Summary of relevant facts according to Pesco:

The man is not in a movable container (i.e. not a vehicle)
What is outside would not directly cause him harm (Yes answer to safety of the home question)
The place he was in is not his own
There are other ways in and out besides the window, though none of which are in reach without moving

[Fightest]

What about my questions?

[FinnKaenbyou]

Is the man in prison?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

What about my questions?

I beg your pardon, Sir, it seems you added them while I was already writing my statement, so I did not notice your edit in time. I shall answer them now.

The man got in a fight and accidentally pushed his opponent out of the window, which was high up. His opponent died from the fall. Seeing this, the man committed suicide from shock/guilt.

NO for the first part. The last sentence however, ignoring the context you put it in, I shall answer with YES

was the death of the person outside caused by events or objects also outside?

YES

Was the person outside ever alive to begin with?

YES

The man is not in a movable container (i.e. not a vehicle)
What is outside would not directly cause him harm (Yes answer to safety of the home question)
The place he was in is not his own
There are other ways in and out besides the window, though none of which are in reach without moving

It is as you say.
The man is in a non-moving place, and what he sees outside is not something that would harm him directly. He also was not in a place he owns or rents in any way, though the place does have a connection to him. There are other exits to the place, which would require the man to move.

Is the man in prison?

NO

[FinnKaenbyou]

Did the man have any relation whatsoever to the events that lead to the death of the person outside?

Did he have any relation with the victim?

[Fightest]

Is this event contemporary?

[Pesco]

Was suicide the man's only rational solution to what he saw outside?

[Dead Princess Sakana]

Did the man have any relation whatsoever to the events that lead to the death of the person outside?

YES

Did he have any relation with the victim?

NO

Is this event contemporary?

YES, meaning the events relevant for this case all happened over the course of 24 hours at most.

Was suicide the man's only rational solution to what he saw outside?

NO. There might surely have been other solutions, but it is the spirit of this game to often portray the most drastic and dramatic possibilities



I shall now take my leave for the night, so please excuse me, Ladies and Gentlemen. I shall be available to answer your questions again once my body has had its rest.

[Kuma]

This is a weird guess, and probably wrong, but:

the man shot himself because he saw, or thought he saw the ghost of a person he killed?

if not, Was the man in a church/morgue?

did he shoot a mirror?

[Fightest]

This is a weird guess, and probably wrong, but:

the man shot himself because he saw, or thought he saw the ghost of a person he killed?

I proposed a similar theory upthread. Needless to say it was incorrect. :V It being an actual ghost also violates the non-supernatural law.

And speaking of weird questions:

Was the man aware that he would die upon committing suicide?

[Thata no Guykoro]

Mebbe... The man thought he had killed the person outside, and killed himself over it.

[Hououin Kyouma]

Is the man a criminal?

is this a everyday thing? Already answered :V

was the man inside the victim's house?

[Spidere]

Was the man of a sane mind?

Did he have a significant loss that day?

Is this surprisingly hard?

[Fightest]

Was the man of a sane mind?

Answered upthread, YES.