A Kingdom of Loathing thread? That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.

[Alfred F. Jones]

Phish sticks hit a low of about 120k each yesterday, as I saw, but now they're going back up. The price will probably wobble for a few days, though.

As for today-- damnit, Gnommish Micromicrobrewery, why can't you ever be selling Bungles in the Jungle at the beginning of a run, when I need it most? ;_;

[Alfred F. Jones]

Oh my, double post!

I'm doing a softcore ascension quickly so I can get my last hobo code for the planned Hobopolis run. I pulled Frosty's snowball from my storage. It is so broken for the early game-- it's like an "I win" button I can press twice a day

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

So since it's on my mind while UK's setting up her item choices for OCD Inventory Control, who all has random silly cheap item personal collections? It might be nice to start amassing a list of them so people can send things to each other~ (if they want =P) I picked some fairly arbitrary stuff myself recently too.

Ones I know:
Purv (The Captain, #91349): Amulet of Yendor, disease, lihc eye pie, Mad Train wine, meat vortex, mind flayer corpse, ring of aggravate monster
Ruro (Sakura Rurouni, #2117721): strawberry
Me (ArashiKurobara, #2118636): ballroom blintz, flute of flat champagne, shot of blackberry schnapps, star (EDIT: also pr0n legs)

And rdj's alt DrunkenTester (#2189688) doesn't formally collect with a display case, but needs massive amounts of cloudy potions and Yummy Tummy beans (and maybe 668 scrolls) for his attempt to someday see where the drunkenness counter rolls over.

So yeah, anyone else?

[Alfred F. Jones]

You already got me, though I should mention just for laughs that my goal in regards to strawberry collecting is to remain in perpetual 9th place, with a number of strawberries that adds up to nine and is a palindrome.

Why am I so weird? :ohdear:

[UncertainJakutten]

I collect Lewd Playing Cards (though not in display case yet. I'm going to make a deck first and then start display casing cards), but...uh...those are semi rares from Hobopolis so I seriously don't expect to be given any .

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

You already got me, though I should mention just for laughs that my goal in regards to strawberry collecting is to remain in perpetual 9th place, with a number of strawberries that adds up to nine and is a palindrome.

Why am I so weird? :ohdear:

I dunno, but hey you can always just keep the others not in the case. :V

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I think it would be fun to start collecting flowers, but I'll probably never stick with it. ^^;

That said, I do kind of want to save up for a Mayflower bouquet at some point. :3

[MatsuriSakuragi]

So, the unbearable light item from the clip art tome is pretty cool.

[Alfred F. Jones]

So, the unbearable light item from the clip art tome is pretty cool.

Getting the

Spoiler:

Gadget Inspector

trophy just got a whole lot easier. I think I also just figured out a way to get tons of drum machines! :]

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

I'm working on my meat-making scheme.

1. Buy up bang potions which are below the standard market rate.
2. Stock them in my store at the going rate (or higher if I'm able to do so)
3. Direct the profits into the Money-Making Game, using my special technique to get roughly 120%-150% of what I put in.
4. Use my winnings to buy even more potions.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Getting the

Spoiler:

Gadget Inspector

trophy just got a whole lot easier. I think I also just figured out a way to get tons of drum machines! :]

Except for, y'know, that 149-adventure cooldown.

3. Direct the profits into the Money-Making Game, using my special technique to get roughly 120%-150% of what I put in.

... yeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Sure. Have fun with that.

[Alfred F. Jones]

Except for, y'know, that 149-adventure cooldown.

Huh? .... oh, I must have misread the function of that. My bad.

Though, I was having a frustrating day with the pirate quest yesterday, and I can think of a number of ways that this would be useful, even with the 149-adventure cooldown.

[UncertainJakutten]

Except for, y'know, that 149-adventure cooldown.

... yeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Sure. Have fun with that.

If you're patient you can get two a day (in aftercore). You need to get 10 in the same run is all, right?

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

If you're patient you can get two a day (in aftercore). You need to get 10 in the same run is all, right?

Yeah, but I'm not sure yellow-raying 2/day makes it much faster than a reasonable amount of +item.

EDIT for missing Ruro's reply:

and I can think of a number of ways that this would be useful, even with the 149-adventure cooldown.

Oh yeah, it is super-useful, don't get me wrong (though I've mostly been makin' food with mah tome >_>). I just don't think it's much good for amassing a lot of something in particular much faster than normal. =P

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

... yeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Sure. Have fun with that.

Assuming you make 5 or so small bets equal to 10-20% of you have, and win roughly half of them each time, you'll come out ahead most of the time.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

Assuming you make 5 or so small bets equal to 10-20% of you have, and win roughly half of them each time, you'll come out ahead most of the time.

No you won't.

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

No you won't.

That's for casino games where you're betting against the house. The MMG has you betting against other players. And clearly if I'm wagering more than I'm willing to lose then I've been doing it wrong this whole time anyway

I'm willing to accept the possibility I'm massively wrong on this, and if the MMG turns out to be a bust I can make money just as easily (if maybe a bit slower) through market speculation, which I'm actually finding a bit more fun than the actual game.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

That's for casino games where you're betting against the house. The MMG has you betting against other players. And clearly if I'm wagering more than I'm willing to lose then I've been doing it wrong this whole time anyway

I'm willing to accept the possibility I'm massively wrong on this, and if the MMG turns out to be a bust I can make money just as easily (if maybe a bit slower) through market speculation, which I'm actually finding a bit more fun than the actual game.

The house still takes a cut. You will equal out to winning half an losing half over any decently long run, and you will lose money because of that house cut.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

I'd much rather meatgrind and gain ~175k a day than gamble it away. Unlike gambling, it's guaranteed to work every time, and in time, I'll have enough for what I want.

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

Okay, screw the casino, found better and more reliable plan.

 Buy blends of herbs and spices for 200-250 at the mall, combine them with ingredients I already have or can get for zero cost, create meals that can be sold for 1000+ meat or higher.

Low risk, minimal investment required, decent returns if I'm willing to be patient.

[MatsuriSakuragi]

If I could suggest a system that could be lucrative with minimum effort, I'd suggest going Sauceror, learn Advanced Saucecrafting, The Way of Sauce, and get the Gravyskin Belt of the Sauceblob. You'll get 8 scrumptious reagents every day, and the ingredients you combine with these are often pretty cheap (or very easy to find). Not only that, but with each reagent, you'll make *3* potions, which you can sell for 1000+ meat. That is to say, that's practically a free 24,000 a day if you were to sell what you make every day at a minimum of 1k meat. =O

Spoiler:

or you could be lazy like me and let those 8 free reagents a day add up and do nothing with them beyond make milks of magnesium with them. My sauceror alt has 465 of them at this very moment :V

[Conqueror]

So I'm guessing we have enough clan funds to keep the basement in a semi-permanent state of openness for nickel farming etc?

(Info about the clan should probably be added to the OP, even though it's linked in the old thread.)

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

Finally starting on the Naughty Sorceress quest, gunning for my first ascension now.

[Alfred F. Jones]

Finally starting on the Naughty Sorceress quest, gunning for my first ascension now.

Remember, the NS

Spoiler:

takes away all your buffs,

so don't rely on those for taking her on. And remember that damn

Spoiler:

Wand of Nagamar

!
Best of luck with the rest of the quest. :toot:

[Tamer Anode/Cathode]

I already have

Spoiler:

the wand

made and I've been hoarding a bunch of other items just in case.

As for the

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buffs

, I never relied on them anyway, preferring to plan out my equipment if I'm trying to do something specific (unless I'm to be told that's no good for this either)

[Janitor Morgan]

As for the

Spoiler:

buffs

, I never relied on them anyway, preferring to plan out my equipment if I'm trying to do something specific (unless I'm to be told that's no good for this either)

Planning out your equipment is good. If you're going for total evasion, you'll want your Moxie to be around 215

Spoiler:

for her second form

. Otherwise, pump up your Mysticality so that

Spoiler:

the NS blocks fewer of your skills.

[Shizumarashi Mayuzumi]

So I'm guessing we have enough clan funds to keep the basement in a semi-permanent state of openness for nickel farming etc?

For a while, at least; I should probably start sticking meat in the coffers more often, and my alt hasn't been filling up the ball pit lately like she should >_> (though did just get a relatively big-ticket item out of the way so she probably can go back to that now).

And speaking of my alt, she mostly went down there to get hobo code binder because if I do ever stop ascending her Purv's suggested I turn her into a Hodg-killer for hire; might go down after getting all the codes I can for this run and farming up more nickels, but I'm totally leaving bosses for the rest of you and you don't need to give her any loot (though I'd hardly be opposed to getting some. :V)

[Chaore]

so theres a new clan dungeon, which is awesome

it also has non combats that raise ml, such as the boombox and fog machine

stop hitting them please railgun, the enemies have gone insane

edit: oh whoops i just hit the windows which do the same, the enemies are now batshit

i don't reccomend anyone enter atm, just let me clean up my mess

Editedit: mess cleaned, though it seems it was all my fault in the end, whoops!

anyway basically no one touch the fog machine or boombox in the house, that'll increase ML and they get pretty fucking tough, it's reversable through doing the same choice.

this means railgun didn't do anything whoops sorry

i do wonder where the spontaneous power came from though. :/

i suggest even if you don't want to clean up enemies, you do actually happen to stop by and drop a ray or two if you have the time, the enemies there are rayable

[Alfred F. Jones]

Man, I can't wait to hit some kind of lull in fistcore so I can head down there and punch a few skeletons in the face.

[Byaaakuren]

It's fine. I just saw the new zone and I was wondering what was there. I got some items, but I didn't touch them at all, seeing how there weren't wiki articles on them when I found them. I haven't encountered any non-combats (yet) but now I know what not to do