You are a vanilla Townie. You win when the Mafia are no longer a threat.
All the good colours were taken.
Would this work?
I1 = ShiningDrake
I2 = UncertainKitten
I3 = Zakeri
I4 = Affinity
I5 = Nietz
I6 = Serpentarius
I7 = Sol
I8 = Pesco
I9 = Ramus
x1 = 14,774
x2 = 21,791
x3 = 39,600
x4 = 34,098
x5 = 21,526
x6 = 16,997
x7 = 11,564
x8 = 23,139
x9 = 41,747
D1 = 0,940
D2 = 0,296
D3 = 1,336
D4 = 0,832
D5 = 0,321
D6 = 0,736
D7 = 1,235
D8 = 0,173
D9 = 1,533
Unless I've forgotten some fundamental rule of mathematics, 1,533 > 1,336. See me after class.##Unvote
SUZANSSPR.I read that as "Suzan Spear"
Impending headache is impending.
Both Serpentarius and Neitz make compelling arguments, but for the sake of being consistent between games:
##Vote: Neitz
What consistency?He was my first vote in (9) Squad. Well, that, and the RNG I use somehow pinned him again.
He was my first vote in ⑨ Squad. Well, that, and the RNG I use somehow pinned him again.
Somehow huh? What you think of Serp's vote?Well, for a joke vote, he's playing up the "Pesco obvscum" angle. Can't really blame him for that.
Well, for a joke vote, he's playing up the "Pesco obvscum" angle. Can't really blame him for that.Rule #1 of Mafia on Shrine Maiden: Pesco is always obvscum
Well, for a joke vote, he's playing up the "Pesco obvscum" angle. Can't really blame him for that.
You're telling me I've been gone for about a day and a half and no one's done anything stupid yet?That's what happens when you hold everyone up to a high standard for a long enough period of time. People stop making mistakes.
WE NEED ANALYSIS.
And I'm not pulling up any analysis.
Your serious vote is an OMGUS...Again, a fallacy. Just because I'm bad at something doesn't mean I'm scummy. I also use the Roukanken defense and say I'm just out to get the game moving. Hate me or kill me for it if you find it scummy.
Just because I'm bad at something doesn't mean I'm scummy.
This is nothing but random stupid votes.
Not to mention, why the joke votes had some level of justification, yours is a whomping "Tee hee."
Bleh, short days are hateful.Indeed.
Scummy words and actions are those that betray a scummy mindset. You can't get much more scummy than "I don't need to find scum, so I'm just going to try to kill whoever tries to lynch me." That's on top of saying that you want to lynch Drake for doing something that you yourself are guilty of.I just accused Drake of lurking. I never tied his scumminess to his lack of analysis. And I'm currently, not lurking, right?
There's a difference when Rou does it. He makes himself OBVTOWN.Am I allowed to be meta on this one?
Looks like a direct contradiction.
I wouldn't say this RVS is entirely devoid of info. I'm FPMH(TM) sure of one person that is town.And you're probably right about that person since 7 out of 9 people are town. What's your point?
To be more clear on the justification, I meant stuff like Random Number Generators or some insane and obscure mathematical procedure. At least that's a reason behind the joke. Tee hee holds no justification however you look at it.
I never tied his scumminess to his lack of analysis.
Then what do you suppose he post in his posts? Needless, contradictory fluff like yours?
I tie it into the fact that you guys are assholes for voting on me for attempting to jump start the game. One more person can vote on me if he or she wants to, but I'm guilty of nothing so far except trying to get the game going. That being said, screw you if you decide to vote me because it's going to result in a worthless day and two dead townies thanks to the fact that we have night again.
Serp's vote on Nietz I mean.Whoops, didn't realize the vote changed off of you.
you guys are assholes
I just accused Drake of lurking. I never tied his scumminess to his lack of analysis. And I'm currently, not lurking, right?
It kind of looks like a prod, save for the fact that a prod was completely unnecessary. The reason for the vote is a little suspect, too. I'm reserving my judgment for now, as I have to catch up later on.
##Unvote
It should come as no surprise that I'm going to ask you why you think this now. Why do you have this conclusion about Serp's vote and why do you unvote.To answer in reverse order, since we're apparently out of the joke vote phase, I don't want to keep said joke vote in. As for why my thoughts on Serp's vote lean that way, his reason for voting seems a little flimsy for a serious vote (a question on impressions in the joke vote phase? I'm not quite sure how you do that with just random votes.). Not only that, but 24 hours in seems pretty early to be hitting L-2. I'll need to look at [Ramus' argument] tomorrow (or is that today?), since I don't have the time to be reading it right now (I'm supposed to be asleep), and that seems to be the main point of contention for Day 1.
You're active lurking.
I know there's a lot more to comment on but this post is HORRIBLE.UK, if you haven't noticed, all I do is bitch and whine in these games. I also insult people at random and tell them off too while I'm at it. Just look at the last game. I do it all over the place, in fact, I'll go as far as to say, I'm doing nothing different.
There's so much AtE and overall anti logic that I can't help but feel Ramus isn't playing his "usual" (yeah...one game...) town self.
In short, I hate people who find justification within a few single sentences. That's not debating, or using logical reasoning, that's just jumping to a conclusion.
Why are you referring to the possible permutations when you're talking about the digital root? It's 18 whatever combination you use.
UK, if you haven't noticed, all I do is bitch and whine in these games. I also insult people at random and tell them off too while I'm at it. Just look at the last game. I do it all over the place, in fact, I'll go as far as to say, I'm doing nothing different.
Meantime, if you look at last game, I might mention that keeping UK, a townie that no one besides I believed was townie, alive directly lead to people becoming wary of Edible and even him being proven scummy (if a bit due to moderator mess ups, I'm looking at you Pesco). Even if it wasn't due to Pesco messing up, Edible was marked pretty high on the list of everyone.
Did I mention Pesco sucks at this because he jumps for the set in stone methods of playing this game? He makes assumptions about how things should be done when the rules were set up independent of him. Just look at the last game. Any other dumb questions?
or for playing differently. In short, I hate people who find justification within a few single sentences. That's not debating, or using logical reasoning, that's just jumping to a conclusio
Nietz, have you found anything suspicious in any of the other players' random votes?By this time I was a little weirded out by Sol's claim of 'consistency', by you bringing me to L-2 on the RVS and by drak's absence. But a lot has happened since then, so let me catch up on the Ramus thing.
It was different, mostly because you were actually providing reasoning as well as not lashing out at everyone that even THOUGHT about voting you.Affinity, case in point. It's how I roll.
Pesco is far from someone who uses "set in stone" methods. He uses a few base guidelines and goes a wild. But, this doesn't have anything to do with your alignment really.Did I ever say it did? No, just saying that Pesco is bad at the game and used a fallacy known as strawman to attack me. Besides, set in stone methods? You all assume that finding townies is a bad idea. I'm willing to prove that that is a viable tactic.
For someone who uses meta, I'd like to know why that first is such a bad tell
I could start hating on Ramus' last post as well, but I think I'll just say that I'm not convinced I should remove my vote and leave it at that.For letting everyone else do the work for him and leaving his vote on me because it's convinient.
Hammer me then, you hypocrites. Anything I say or do at this point will be OMGUS or a last minute defense. The game at this point is set where I can't win. No one is willing to defend me and no one has considered the game from my point of view. I've given several arguments which apparently no agrees with, so hammer me then. At this point, you're all nothing but a bunch of people repeating each other. Prove you have some gut and hammer, else I'll do it. It's a lost cause anyway, my method of logic doesn't appeal to anyone, you guys fail to see the fallacies I point, and you all think meta doesn't count for jack. Anyone want to give a compelling argument?
Okay, I just read the whole thing and I can find no redeeming qualities about Ramus other than that he was being obnoxiously anti-town in the last game as well. But this time I do believe he has an extra side of scumminess to it.
Did I ever say it did? No, just saying that Pesco is bad at the game and used a fallacy known as strawman to attack me. Besides, set in stone methods? You all assume that finding townies is a bad idea. I'm willing to prove that that is a viable tactic.
Affinity, case in point. It's how I roll.
Dumb question. I will at least give reason behind my votes, logically consistent or not depending who you ask, but at least I give a trail for someone else to work off of and decide whether or not he or she likes me.
At least with meta, I can point out previous actions, describe why it's similar and go with it.
Anyway, UK, going to hammer me or not? I'm waiting~
UK or Nietz, please grow a spine and hammer me already.
Oh right, if there's a rule stating that it's more important to find scum than innocents, I might mention that's not a rule at all, more of a recommendation.
Hammer me then, you hypocrites. Anything I say or do at this point will be OMGUS or a last minute defense. The game at this point is set where I can't win. No one is willing to defend me and no one has considered the game from my point of view. I've given several arguments which apparently no agrees with, so hammer me then. At this point, you're all nothing but a bunch of people repeating each other. Prove you have some gut and hammer, else I'll do it. It's a lost cause anyway, my method of logic doesn't appeal to anyone, you guys fail to see the fallacies I point, and you all think meta doesn't count for jack. Anyone want to give a compelling argument?
Did I ever say it did? No, just saying that Pesco is bad at the game and used a fallacy known as strawman to attack me. Besides, set in stone methods? You all assume that finding townies is a bad idea. I'm willing to prove that that is a viable tactic.
And you're probably right about that person since 7 out of 9 people are town. What's your point?
Actually... I remembered my RVS vote was on Ramus already, and while I don't see any reason to move it, that means I can't hammer.
Other than that, I can't point out anyone because you're being perfect bus material too.
Hey look a strawman!
Follow the yellow brick road~Are you really using ad hominem for something that happened outside of this game or any other Mafia game? Seems kinda hypocritical. Besides, I've been saying that one for a while. Good luck finding someone who will lynch. Regardless, Pesco, I am serious about the voting position. You're at a really nice spot on the list.
Just hammer. Ramus isn't a team player as we've already known.
And, before I die, I'd like to hear something from Zakeri, like why he failed to give sufficient reason to keep his vote on me. Pesco at least has some reason behind his (regardless of me agreeing with him or not).
*Yawns*
Waiting for the lynch.
A little contradictory. 23 minutes gaiz.
You're an hour off.
Argh Ramus, it's not as if we really have any ill-intentions towards you; it's just a game. But not following what is agreed here to be the playstyle of choice makes it very hard to play with you, I guess.
Reread done. My conclusions: A) Ramus's reactions to everything were just utterly ridiculous, and I can't blame anyone for voting him. B) I suck at this game and have no idea on who's scummy and who isn't.
I could start hating on Ramus' last post as well, but I think I'll just say that I'm not convinced I should remove my vote and leave it at that.
Because nobody else will speculate NKs, I will.There's much room for WIFOM in this, I wouldn't rely on the NK to assume we have a Doc and a Cop.
As SDrake said, it looks like a silly move on scum's part to NK Sol. What it looks like to me is PR hunting in the nightgame. The only real reason why scum would hunt PRs is because they have a RB and would thus know that they got a full house this game. It simply wouldn't make sense to me that scum would risk leaving stronger players alive when they have full knowledge of the setup.
Ramus and Nietz were both at L-3 yesterday before I voted, but I put my pressure vote on Nietz because I expected Ramus to explode uselessly and get himself lynched if anyone else voted him, whether he was scum or town.
Ramus's subsequent reactions made me think that he was likely scum
From what I quoted, you were expecting him to explode before the votes even came on.
Ramus and Nietz were both at L-3 yesterday before I voted, but I put my pressure vote on Nietz because I expected Ramus to explode uselessly and get himself lynched if anyone else voted him, whether he was scum or town.
I'm not buying either of the other cases today. Ramus basically sealed his fate with his OMGUS post. I would've been willing to vote him at that point, so I don't see scummy intent in the action of doing so, and nothing about Pesco's attached comment seemed particularly inflammatory.Yes, I agree that just being on the Ramus case is pretty much a null tell, since he pretty much deserved all the suspicion, though Zak's vote and Pesco's L-1 and subsequent post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=3346.msg145149#msg145149) definitely helped him burst out, which pretty much sealed his fate. What is worst about Pesco though, is his vote on Affinity today coming out of almost nothing.
What's the other part?
But as Affinity mentioned this could also be you sitting back after th Ramus lynch started going on its own.To be fair, this point could go either way, so I'll just drop it.
Well, yes. The reason I'm voting Zakeri is that I think he should have expected it as well. I wasn't around here when Ramus used to play regularly, but in the short time since he's returned, I've marked him as a player with a short fuse.
I don't like this. Your case on me appears to be that since you had the foresight to know Ramus had a short fuse, that I am just as astute as yourself and used this knowledge that I didn't have to cause a mislynch. Why do you keep insisting that I did know that anyway? The point is entirely WiFoM anyway.
Why do you find Zakeri scummier than pesco for example, using this line of reasoning?
Multi-Variable CalculusDING DING DING
Pesco 117: Alternatively, new players who didn't know who was established or not. Then again, Sol still doesn't seem like a good target.
Pesco 126: And how does this implicate Serp?
SDrake is still a new player.
Serp's assumption looked bad. As if he knew Ramus would be a mislynch.
I'll try to get an analysis of different players up, but I somehow don't think that I'm going to get done before I end up heading to my piano lessons.
By the way, WHY DO YOU ALL INSIST ON TALKING SO MUCH WHEN I'M NOT HERE?!!!! Dear god... Half the conversation happens when I'm asleep/otherwise unable to look at the topic <_<
Nietz 121: Sorry about just coming back to hammer. And the fact I didn't focus on this game when I was here...sorry. I guess Pesco is decently explained. Who do you think is scum with pesco, if anyone? I'm not sure I agree, but I want to know what you think.Right now, Pesco/Zakeri and Pesco/Drake are my best bets.
Nietz 138: I'd prefer to see proof of this "arbitraryness"
As for Serp's arbitraryness, it was my opinion that he was tunneling on Zakeri and letting Pesco go without a convincing explanation as to why their actions were more or scummy or townish than the other's.
I have to go out soon and won't be around for the deadline. I would still prefer a Pesco lynch but that doesn't seem possible anymore.
Between Serpentarius and Zakeri, I believe Serp is the best bet right now. Mostly because I don't like the whole "I had predicted Ramus reaction's but still sincerely believed he was scum" and the arbitrary way he decides Zakeri looks scum and Pesco looks town when both did pretty much the same things.
##Unvote
##Vote Serpentarius
One upside of this is that we haven't seen the hammer yet. Okay one hour isn't much, but considering the players left, this is definitely a good sign.
Well, the thing is, if both scum are already voting Zak, then of course there wouldn't be a hammer yet.
Bet you guys wouldn't be hesitating if it was me at L-1
I agree with UK that Neitz is the most pro-town player in the game, and Of UK, Drake, and Pesco, UK is the one I feel is less likely to be scum.
I'd rather go for drake now, but it looks like the choice is made for me. ##Vote: Pesco.
That's true. This puts me at much more ease about my vote. Though, I am slightly worried about Neitz, Since I think Pesco and I are equal in his eyes.
I didn't say I was worried about Neitz being scum. I said I was worried about him picking wrong. how does "I think Pesco and I are equal in his eyes." mean anything other than "I don't want him to vote the wrong guy"?
##Vote: Pesco.
Obvscum team is UK and Zak. UK says in 169 that she thinks Zak is the safest vote. That would mean she does believe he is scum. In the same post, I'm the least safest vote but the strongest case. Most likely town but scummiest wut?
Looking at her recent posts, she's pretty adamant that I'm scum with Zak. If that's so, it shouldn't be holding her back except that Zak is scum and so is she.
Obvscum team is UK and Zak. UK says in 169 that she thinks Zak is the safest vote. That would mean she does believe he is scum. In the same post, I'm the least safest vote but the strongest case. Most likely town but scummiest wut?
Looking at her recent posts, she's pretty adamant that I'm scum with Zak. If that's so, it shouldn't be holding her back except that Zak is scum and so is she.
Also, @ UK: Could you explain more on your reasoning that you're ABSOLUTELY SURE Pesco is scum? You went from his being most likely to be scum, to his being scum, PERIOD.
Another thing that's come to mind. UK claims that Zak isn't hammered because both scum are voting already. So explain the Pesco/SDrake scumteam. How does that even fit with all the other stuff UK has been saying?
If everyone hangs back like Kilga D1, then D1 will always be a random lynch.
...
Admittedly, I'm starting to think random lynch D1 is a fantastic idea.
I actually don't feel bad about how I performed, I feel bad about being outplayed by Nietz and Zak to be honest.Because I'm such a sucky scum player? :-\
Because I'm such a sucky scum player? :-\
Anyway, quicktopic here (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/9Z5y3psm3S9LD), but there's not much in it.
What, "don't play"?
What, "don't play"?As a matter of fact, I could've hammered last night if Zak had come at least 1 hour earlier. If UK hadn't put her vote back on Pesco, I would have probably hammered Zak, NK Drake and claim doc tomorrow.
As a matter of fact, I could've hammered last night if Zak had come at least 1 hour earlier. If UK hadn't put her vote back on Pesco, I would have probably hammered Zak, NK Drake and claim doc tomorrow.
But you see Nietz, that one little tell I had on UK would have been difficult for you to disprove.Interesting.
I would like to use it again someday, but I know it's not going to happen. UK referred to Serp by his full name in her first post. That was why I played the first 2 days with her as a confirmed town. The only reason UK would be so formal with Serp is because she wasn't sure of his alignment.
But you see Nietz, that one little tell I had on UK would have been difficult for you to disprove.
I would like to use it again someday, but I know it's not going to happen. UK referred to Serp by his full name in her first post. That was why I played the first 2 days with her as a confirmed town. The only reason UK would be so formal with Serp is because she wasn't sure of his alignment.
If everyone hangs back like Kilga D1, then D1 will always be a random lynch.
The trick works once, now that you guys know it, I'm never using it ever again.
I'm pretty sure my last two main D1 cases were both scum.
It's not necessary to "hang back" on D1. Just don't post mountains of words. They do nothing but distract and won't mean anything on D2 and beyond anyway. Surprise revelation: In both of those games where I picked scum out on D1, I picked a second scum out on D2 purely by looking at how the trains shook down, not who vomited out the most words in the shortest amount of time.
I don't mean stay completely absent like I was D2. But basically not consider the alignment of players at all D1. Because I think then I can look back on the evidence from D1 with a clearer head and start making reads D2. If that makes sense?
I was responding more to Edible than you, since he suggested that my method would only lead to random lynches where recent empirical evidence suggests quite the contrary!
I don't at all endorse approaching Day 1 with an "I'm not considering alignments" attitude. I caught Zengar for taking a scummy approach to Seniwac's retardation, and I caught VgT for taking a scummy approach to the day in general. If this isn't what you mean, then I'm a bit confused as to what you're getting at.
I did consider that you could have been baiting with it. But think about it, you weren't thinking too much about what you said in that post while I was quite happy to find that edge. My sample for that tell is every instance of your conversations that have included Serp's name after you started calling him your master.
...See, this is why I don't play anymore.
Because, on the one hand, I know that stances need to be taken. But, on the other, I think that I tend to overcommit to stances. And they color my thoughts for the rest of the game. So I'm trying to come up with a way to prevent that overcommitment D1. So I can assess D1 with an uncolored view, preferably during the night phase, and have reads on D2 that should hopefully be better reasoned, if that makes since.
I'd love advice on this to be honest.
- Do your thing on D1.
- Ignore everything that happened D1 on D2 except for the trains. If the D1 flip was town, look at people on the train. If the D1 train was scum, look at people not on it.
1. ShiningDrake (Town)
You are the number 1. Isn't that schweet?! I mean, you're the freaking number one, the best in everything! You're the top of the hill, the king of the ring, the hero of the zero... you're just that awesome! No one will take your place... 'cause you're the freaking number one! NUMBER ONE, YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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2. UncertainKitten (Town)
You are the constant pi. The all-mighty 3.14159yadayadayada. You are very important, and you're the common ground for those people who remember some of the length of your tail, which is long. You like circles as well. That's why you started you love cereals with O's in them. But hey, we can't live without you, right? Think of that poor trigonometry without you!
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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3. Zakeri (Scum)
You are the number 9. You were nothing special until some drunkard came out and used you to pun a certain little ice fairy. Now you're being treated as the number they all laugh about. It doesn't matter, right? You're the strongest one, after all!
Your role is town vanilla... but that's not true! DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!
You are the number 0. Yeah, you're nothing. Well, not exactly nothing, but you have uh... nothing. You're empty, with nothing. If you were sent to Gensokyo, you'd probably be Alice. That doesn't mean you aren't useful, but yeah... sorry man, but you don't have much. You also like to cause some trouble around... dividing by zero.
You are the Mafia Godmother. At night, you can choose a target to be NK'd. Send a PM to the mods to confirm that kill. Your partner in crime is Mafia Goon Number -1 - -. You can talk to him via PM at night.
You win when every single townie is dead or is unable to win. Good luck and have fun!
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4. Affinity (Cop)
You are the number 42. For some awkward reason, you feel like you've been given with a gift. You know everything, absolutely everything. If I were to ask you something, you'd give me an answer in a whiff. For that reason, don't you already know who your opponents are, or what will the result be in this game? Why are you here, then? Oh, for fun? Well, whatever. As long as you don't cheat with you all-knowing hax skills...
Your role is town cop. At night, you can choose a target to find what role he or she has. PM the mods to confirm said target.
You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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5. Nietz (Scum)
You are the constant phi. People ph33r your 1.6180339blahblahblah. You're also known as the Golden Ratio. Seems like you're very important. You also have a knack for arts, which is awesome as well! Your perfection is enough to achieve victory!
Your role is town vanilla... but that's not true! DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!
You are the number -1. Unlike your little brother, 1, you apparently succeed at everything... but in the opposite way. It's not like you're jealous of him, right? Oh yeah you are... drats. In any case, you certainly are useful in your own way. I mean, you lead a big big group of no-goods, negative, 0 to the left buncha numbers. Oh, that hurt? Oops...
You are a Mafia Goon. You and your partner must choose who you want to target. Your partner in crime is the Mafia Godmother Number 0 - -. You can talk to him via PM at night. (By the way, if the Godmother's dead, you take the killing power)
You win when every single townie is dead or is unable to win. Good luck and have fun!
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6. Serpentarius (Town)
You are the constant e. You little 2.71828blahblahblah. You aren't just the 5th letter in the english alphabet, but you are important for math as well! Your inverse is ln, another important thing! You must be really good friends with that 1, since that's your derivative at x = 0. Nice curve there, by the way. *tsk tsk*.
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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7. Sol (Town)
You are the number 34. You were nothing special until some people gave you a special meaning. A rather... embarassing meaning for some, but you wield it with pride now. Hey hey, get that 3 off me, sheesh. You can also be called a miracle for some, magical for othe-hey, stop that, I tell you! That tickles... ehehe... Hey! Ah! Help! Molestor here!
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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8. Pesco (Town)
You are the number 7. Wow! You're very lucky! Look behind you, a four-leafed clover! A and K on Blackjack! 777 on slots! You're really really rich for a number! Rainbow, whoo! With such powers, I don't think anyone could touch you in this game! You have the victory in your hands! Share it with everyone! You make people happy! Now turn your h4x off, you cheater.
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
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9. Ramus (Town)
You are the imaginary unit i. You don't exist. Well, you do, but you don't. Geddit? Nah? Aw. In any case, you seem to appear when that cousin of yours "Square Root" makes crap hit the fan, saving the day. You seem to be friends with -1 when 2 comes along to play. In any case, you make everything complex. Isn't it sad?
Your role is town vanilla. You win with town when all scum are dead. Good luck and have fun!
What is this 'contribute more'? I said everything that needed saying. Everyone else is saying *too much*, christ. I'm not reading all this crap on day one unless ##'s are attached to it.
Having a vote down on someone for non-terrible reasons is producing "enough" on D1. Look at what I did in Invasion. I had a vote down on VgT and later threw a handful of one-liners out. That was "enough".
Rat had a good line about this back in Remix.
He was the deciding vote between the Zak/Serp wagons, and he was scum pulling it away from his buddy. The most obvious setup possible, and Town managed to miss it.
...See, this is why I don't play anymore.
Why the heck did no-one look at Nietz after D2?Because they didn't previously know we were the scumpair?
He was the deciding vote between the Zak/Serp wagons, and he was scum pulling it away from his buddy. The most obvious setup possible, and Town managed to miss it.
Finally guys, WHY DID YOU WANT FROM ME THE FIRST DAY?!
But this is utter bullshit. You stopped playing out of exasperation at your own failures more than at the failures of others, as I remember it. You didn't join as a player, and there's no reason to think that you would've done any better in a townie's shoes, so you don't have a leg to stand on. Put up or shut up.It's more a matter of feeling bad for being part of something like this. If I'm Town, and Town gets wrecked, I naturally feel devastated for screwing up so badly. Not playing means I avoid situations like that. >_>
It's more a matter of feeling bad for being part of something like this. If I'm Town, and Town gets wrecked, I naturally feel devastated for screwing up so badly. Not playing means I avoid situations like that. >_>
Put up or shut up.
I hope you agree with my way of playing D2!
I hope everyone agrees with my way of playing D2! That's how you're SUPPOSED to play the game! >_>
I was a little shocked when Serp got the lynch on D2.
Had I not been in a rush he wouldn't have been. I still am kicking myself on that.Technically he was already dead when you voted. Your post was 8 minutes past deadline, and according to rule 3 would have been lynched regardless of it.
Technically he was already dead when you voted. Your post was 8 minutes past deadline, and according to rule 3 would have been lynched regardless of it.
Hey ho Serp, guess what, you can't make someone play a game if they don't enjoy it.
It's more a matter of feeling bad for being part of something like this. If I'm Town, and Town gets wrecked, I naturally feel devastated for screwing up so badly. Not playing means I avoid situations like that. >_>
I don't think scum played solidly at all, sadly.
Part of being scum is knowing what you can get away with. Good scum play isn't necessarily very pro-town. If you can contribute to confusion and lack of communication without getting yourself lynched, then in some cases, that's your best play.