I guess I should try again to clarify this. The thing I said about Rou in my early-game post was just a joke. I'm pretty sure I already said that the statement wasn't an accusation or any sort of argument, but I guess I have to repeat it again: What I said in
this post was a basically meaningless statement. I was just pointing out a situation I thought was humorous (a parallel between something that had happened in a previous game, with the roles reversed.) Apparently nobody remembered that previous situation so I guess instead it came off as something else entirely to everyone. My mistake. In the future I will preface all of my accusations and arguments with the phrase "Real Talk." (Real Talk: that is a joke.)
I agree that the discussion with pesco was basically pointless, because he was pressing me for proof or some crap for something that wasn't even an argument to begin with. I was trying to get that across to him by responding, but I guess it would have been better if I just ignored him or something. Hopefully this will be the last time people bug me about it.
Apparently I misread what Kilga said about missing 2 pages in the thread. I was blending that with what he said about quick-skimming UK's posts. However, my point stands: Kilga, I don't think you can offer anything of value if you don't even know the full situation. The proof would be you admitting you missed important things by skimming UK's post. If you're missing information, I don't care what you think, because you're probably wrong. Mafia is a game of the informed minority vs. the uninformed minority, so a lack of any information is crippling. If you can use 'oh, I missed that when I was speedreading' as an excuse every time someone calls you out, that's no good. People have to be liable for their mistakes, or the game doesn't work.
It's true that I haven't seriously voted for anyone, but that's how I play. I don't press people with votes, I press with questions, and leave the votes for people I would actually like to see lynched. I like to see how people respond, whereas you guys like to see a more direct, "this is what I think about X" approach. I'll try to reconcile the two.
I didn't like the Anthony thing because a) he was a super easy lynch target b) if he was lynched, the scum could get away basically scot free because hey, look at how scummy he acted and c) I didn't really get why everyone jumped on that particular guy instead of the others. Since Kilga had started the whole thing I was suspicious of him, so I asked him about it, and he basically told me I wasn't trying hard enough without giving up any information. That plus admitting he was posting without actually reading everything made me Not Happy about him. So yes, I think Kilga is scummy.
Prods:
- Inactive dudes. Suwako made the 5th joke vote on pesco and then posted later saying "now it's serioius, don't care about whatever else, cya" and Serpentarius hasn't posted since his joke vote for Edible. Inactivity is the most basic form of anti-town behavior, and it's a pain in the ass because you can't really tell if someone's scum or just lazy/distracted town. You don't have to produce a page a day, but willful inactivity's a bad sign. More posting, please!
- Wafflers: To Eliphas my thing with pesco was a bad reason to call me scummy, but I guess he changed his mind at some point between when he said that and when he switched up his vote since he used it as an argument against me. He also called me out for apparently being wishy-washy about Anthony, and then did exactly that in a later post. It's OK to be hypocritical, but if you call me scum for doing something you should try not to do it yourself. Rou got into a dumb thing with pesco himself, and even pointed out that our situation was the same, but later said I was suspicious because of the thing he had earlier said was supposed to be a joke. I don't have an issue with people being bothered by that post, since I didn't make it clear I was just foolin' around, but it's strange to say it's nothing major and then change your mind completely when people start voting me for it.
- Kilga: I'll throw your words back at you: post more substance. Less one-liners, please. Getting info from you is like pulling teeth, and it shouldn't be like that. I'm not saying you haven't done anything; it's kind of the opposite. Although you haven't said much you've started two bandwagons already, and it's taking people multiple prods in your direction to get you to clarify and expand on what you're talking about.
This is a long post. Sorry for that. I'll keep them more broken up in the future, I just thought I should try to wrap up as much as I could at once.
