Well, I don't give two cents about Alice, so it doesn't matter which version of her comes rolling along. Actually, I'm pretty open for different character intepretations, as long if it's sweet or hilarious enough. Sure, some things are a bit too much even for me (Sakuya being a perverted, oppurtunistic, awful whore who mentally tortures Remi in shino/ponjiyuusu's works comes to mind. Actually everyone except Remi, Mokou, Keine and Patchouli deserves a kick in the teeth in his intepretations), but overal it doesn't mind me that much. I don't rage that much about personalities, but I however do rage alot more about character abilities (prime example: me going ape shit on the 'Eirin's a Hourai immortal' notion in the Questions thread).
I don't know why, but everytime someone starts messing with someone's power level for no good reason I get the sudden urge to tear of the author's face and hang it over my fireplace. The character's amount of personality quirks are broad enough to allow for many character intepretations, so that allows for alot of personal intepretation and still be oddly right. Their powers and abilities however follow rules set in stone.
Sure, if it's played for comedy, it's a bit more acceptable (Reimu's face burning and Yuuka knowing photosynthesis for example), but there are people who try and make serious, sometimes even dramatic stories with characters either uber buffed into God Mode or nerfed into a super duper wimp with whipcream and a cherry on top. This also counts for their competence. Seriously, shouldn't Remilia have realised by now what for slut her head maid is and fired her in shino's works? Or, you know, torture Sakuya until she starts to bawl as much as she forced Remi to. In Touhou Tag Dream, Sanae survives being hit head on by Flandre's super move, which was designed to kill oni's and could destroy an arena which was pre tested by Kanako and Yuugi, who couldn't get a scratch on it. Sanae should've been blown to gory pieces. And DEAR SHINKI do I hate stories where everyone seems to forget they have the ability to fly or their ability to fire more bullets than the entirety of the USA army. Life of Maid bothers me too, where NO ONE is able to use their abilities except Sakuya. Yes, it's a slice of life series, but why can Sakuya keep/remember her powers and everyone else can't/doesn't? So many of their problems could've been solved if everyone just remembered what they're capable of! (for example: Can't Patchouli just create gold from lead by using her metal powers? She could've payed for that DSi herself if she just had realized she could use magic)
Maybe this is why I dislike the Watatsukis. They're just two snobs who, despite being ageless, are as fragile as humans and could be snapped in two by even the likes of Rumia in hand-to-hand combat. Yet they get the upperhand over Yukari 'Watch Me Give Your God a Wedgie' Yakumo and Suika 'Watch Me Crush a Planet in My Palm' Ibuki! I now Yorihime's just a presentation of what Reimu could be if she started training, but COME ON! Yukari could split her in half by letting a gap appear and dissappear around her middle, and Suika could just crunch her into a square cube by increasing the air density around her. And Toyohime's 'so-called' ultimate weapon: a fucking fan. Even if it could disintegrate a forest, Yukari could kill her before she knew it. She just stood there and explained what that thing does the whole time. More than enough time for Yukari to gap out her brain out of her fugly skull. This is why I have made myself believe that Silent Sinner in Blue 'never happened'.
But the most infuriating example was defiantly in a short doujin I saw on danbooru many months ago and am still trying to remove from my memory.
In this doujin, Yuuka was beating the ever loving crap out of Alice for some reason (there was no link to previous parts), throwing her around like a rag doll and even going as far as to pin Alice to the ground and start gutting her with her parasol. And who was looking on on this horrific scene in total shock and fear? Unable to do anything about this horrible display and save Alice?
Shinki. With the entire GODDAMN cast of Mystic Square.
Shinki and her servants just stood there. Just standing there watching her own daughter and their sister dying, quivering in fear for a fucking walking sunflower of all things. And once Yuuka got her attention on the Makai crew, she prepared a Master Spark and aimed it at the Makai Crew, with the barely alive Alice still underneath her. What does Shinki do? Charge with the powers of Hell and turn that grass bitch inside out? Teleport away with her crew and attack from behind? Make Yuuka's head explode with a mere thought? Or just dodge out of the way for the incoming attack? No... (warning: Looooots of vulgarity coming up. Spoilered to not offend too many people. You've been warned.)
SHE JUST FUCKING KEEPS STANDING THERE AND COVER HER SERVANTS WITH HER ARMS, IN A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THEM FROM THE BLAST LIKE SOME MOTHERFUCKING HELPLESS DAMSEL IN DISTRESS!!!!!
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
And who comes in to save the day? Who bounces off the continent destroying Master Spark like she's goddamn Superman?
Marisa. Motherfucking Marisa. The mortal, human, mediocre witch Marisa. That fucking Marisa.
How the FUCK can a witch defend a Goddess from a nuke-like attack? WHY the FUCK does a witch NEED to defend a Goddess from a nuke like attack?! Shinki has created an entire fucking dimension with her own freaking hands. Not even YUKARI or SHIKIEIKI can boast about something like that! Yuuka may be insanely powerful, but how in the Nine Circles of Hell can she ever hope to stand a chance against GOD?! IT. DOESN'T. MAKE. SENSE. Shinki's omnipotent. She could have just made Yuuka explode in a fountain of gore without even moving a finger! She could've painfully transformed Yuuka into Alice and then transfer Alice's soul to the new Alice body and erase Yuuka's soul! She has INFINITE ways of punishing Yuuka and saving Alice, and yet she has to be saved by that obnoxious, retardedly smiling parlor magician. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE AUTHOR THINKING?!
*gasp**wheeze*
Well, that's my thought on fanon's ways of messing with characters' powers. Good day everybody.
Well, I originally shared that opinion, but recently I figured that 'since humanity is seen as God's children, wouldn't that mean all of Makaihood is seen as Shinki's Children?' So technically Alice is Shinki's daughter, and all the Makai demons are her sisters.
Metaphysically. The same as you could consider all the angels children of Adam in evangellion.
(Except for lilith
) It's actually nearly the same situation - it's not confirmed whether we're dealing with direct descendants or spiritual successors and metaphysical hierarchies, but logically, if genetics mean anything with traits of godhood, including floating wings and white-blue hair, alice is either a daughter in the created by sense, or takes after her father a little too much.
I like fanon. Just not DereAlice.
That's my opinion.But the most infuriating example was defiantly in a short doujin I saw on danbooru many months ago and am still trying to remove from my memory.
In this doujin, Yuuka was beating the ever loving crap out of Alice for some reason (there was no link to previous parts), throwing her around like a rag doll and even going as far as to pin Alice to the ground and start gutting her with her parasol. And who was looking on on this horrific scene in total shock and fear? Unable to do anything about this horrible display and save Alice?
Shinki. With the entire GODDAMN cast of Mystic Square.
Shinki and her servants just stood there. Just standing there watching her own daughter and their sister dying, quivering in fear for a fucking walking sunflower of all things. And once Yuuka got her attention on the Makai crew, she prepared a Master Spark and aimed it at the Makai Crew, with the barely alive Alice still underneath her. What does Shinki do? Charge with the powers of Hell and turn that grass bitch inside out? Teleport away with her crew and attack from behind? Make Yuuka's head explode with a mere thought? Or just dodge out of the way for the incoming attack? No... (warning: Looooots of vulgarity coming up. Spoilered to not offend too many people. You've been warned.)
SHE JUST FUCKING KEEPS STANDING THERE AND COVER HER SERVANTS WITH HER ARMS, IN A PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THEM FROM THE BLAST LIKE SOME MOTHERFUCKING HELPLESS DAMSEL IN DISTRESS!!!!!
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
And who comes in to save the day? Who bounces off the continent destroying Master Spark like she's goddamn Superman?
Marisa. Motherfucking Marisa. The mortal, human, mediocre witch Marisa. That fucking Marisa.
How the FUCK can a witch defend a Goddess from a nuke-like attack? WHY the FUCK does a witch NEED to defend a Goddess from a nuke like attack?! Shinki has created an entire fucking dimension with her own freaking hands. Not even YUKARI or SHIKIEIKI can boast about something like that! Yuuka may be insanely powerful, but how in the Nine Circles of Hell can she ever hope to stand a chance against GOD?! IT. DOESN'T. MAKE. SENSE. Shinki's omnipotent. She could have just made Yuuka explode in a fountain of gore without even moving finger! She could've painfully transformed Yuuka into Alice and then transfer Alice's soul to the new Alice body and erase Yuuka's soul! She has INFINITE ways of punishing Yuuka and saving Alice, and yet she has to be saved by that obnoxious, retardedly smiling parlor magician. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE AUTHOR THINKING?!
*gasp**wheeze*
Well, that's my thought on fanon's ways of messing with characters' powers. Good day everybody.
I agree with you Okashii. Sure, Yuuka's tough, but not superultraomegasupersaiyan. That pissed me right the fuck off seeing that.