[SC - Melee] General Thread

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Since StarCraft needs a thread, and it should obviously be created by a Korean. :V

Let us discuss StarCraft melee here.
The miscellaneous info, general strategy, interesting games you've had and the like.

How many of you guys are playing/interested in MotK SC anyway?
I may go looking for my SC and BW cds for some random inhouse games if enough people are playing.
SC2 lagging due to low specs gets annoying at times.

[trancehime]

If I can bother to set up my 1.16.1.1 SCBW to MotK battle.net I may play some games.

Hopefully with Teamspeak action.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

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And this was the most epic game too.
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Never mind, I found another link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhrE6b0aPc
This game. Holy shit the ending is intense.

And Trance, we should totally play sometime and yell at each other in TS as we do so.

[helvetica]

I'm better than all of you :smug:

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I'm better than all of you :smug:

But I'm Korean. :smug:

And what's a SC thread without Boxer's ㅈㅈ러쉬 (SCV rush)?

[trancehime]

But I'm Korean. :smug:

you also got owned by your dad, what's your point :getdown:

[Stuffman]

I'd be happy to play some games (been looking forward to it, actually)! I play Zerg mostly.

I'm pretty terrible but hopefully playing a bunch will fix that :V

[helvetica]

Not another buggie player   ZvZ is so booooooooooring.  That's what, 3 Zergs now?

[Stuffman]

Well, I can play Terran instead, I'm just even worse at it :V

[helvetica]

Oh I can play Terran too, I just prefer Zerg's playstyle.  Only race I can't play is Protoss because I really really really suck at unit preservation.  I am absolutely terrible at it in DoW2.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

you also got owned by your dad, what's your point :getdown:

But he's also Korean.
Am I the only protoss player here?

[Pesco]

I play protoss because I'm azn :V

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

hai5 Pescar.

And, huh.
I found Brood War, but not the original.
I guess I'll probably look for it tomorrow or later today if I manage to finish this assignment early (pfft).

[trancehime]

yuck protoss

Sorry TeeSoo but  also main Zerg! Though I can play T too if I have to. :V

[Fetch()tirade]

In order of skill and preference:
P > T > Z

Though I'm probably not at competitive levels yet.

[Stuffman]

I'll just focus terran for the sake of variety since I'm not actually good with either!

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

I somehow beat Trance and Manstuff as Zerg. \o/
Then again Stuffman knew about as much about playing protoss as I did zerg, and Trance was taken down early through bad luck. :V

What are viable builds for Zerg, anyway?
Since I assume spamming only zerglings and guardians is not the greatest idea for every match.

[helvetica]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Strategy_(Zerg) Have fun

[ApharmdB]

Mutaling opening before transitioning to higher tier units for ZvZ? Depends a lot on what your opponent is building really. It's been ages since I played SC/BW but that strat still remains in SC2 ZvZ except with banelings mixed in. ZvP/ZvT, you're probably better off going for hydras after the early ling harass. Since I used to play Protoss, I frequently saw ultra/hydras late game if it got to that.

[helvetica]

ZvZ is purely mutaling.  Basically the timings only differ by how big your balls are and your confidence in holding off a ling all in before spire.

[Yukarin]

ZvZ never goes too far into the game. Rarely have I seen ZvZ hive play. If by chance though, ZvZ hive play comes, ready for Defiler and PLAYGU Plague on your Muta stack.

I once played Toss before for like 2 years then switched to Terran just because. I'm still quite proficient at Toss play though.

[trancehime]

ZvZ never goes too far into the game. Rarely have I seen ZvZ hive play.

you haven't?

Well okay maybe in normal games... but ZvZ is fucking boring

[kactaplb]

toss user here. want to switch to terran because op. anyways, we need to play moar bw.

[helvetica]

you haven't?

Well okay maybe in normal games... but ZvZ is fucking boring

At least it's quick unlike fucking TvT :|

[orinrin]

At least it's quick unlike fucking TvT :|

Sieging and unsieging tanks is pretty fun though.

[Fetch()tirade]

At least it's quick unlike fucking TvT :|

PvP is basically who can 4gate better. But there is a solution to TvT..  :V

[tbax704]

Terran has the ultimate defense, just build bunkers with ghosts and missile turrents then place siege tanks behind them. You can add goliaths and wraiths just in case

When playing Zerg, just attack with lots and lots of zerglings. It's somehow very effective.
And plague enemy buildings with defilers

[trancehime]

When playing Zerg, just attack with lots and lots of zerglings. It's somehow very effective

Zerglings get raped by fbats, storm, and a whole lot of other things.

It's advisable to check the BO of the opponent first before deciding whether to go a Zergling build.

[helvetica]

Well, you want cracklings to be the bulk of your army in the end game, their DPS is just astounding.  The trick though is knowing which specialist units to mix in, such as ultras or mutas or hydras or even defilers.

[Yukarin]

For ZvT it's usually defilers. T will counter with vessels, but Plague will suffice to counter it.

ZvZ, again, rarely do ZvZ go hive play, so not much. ZvZ is mutaling, so Plague can again be good with enemy Muta stacks.

ZvP it's Ultraling. Defilers won't do jackshit because of the Archons and the Zealots dealing splash and melee damage, respectively. Also, Maelstrom is a good counter for Ultraling.

Basically, Cracklings should be roughly a third of your army. Whether it is Ultraling or Mutaling, they do insane DPS and distract the enemy. They also mostly take the bulk of the damage.

Lol why do I know this I'm not even Zerg.