How to upload Touhou videos in HD quality Tutorial

[LHCling]

That's normal considering that the program is trying to playback a (largely, mind you) uncompressed video. Add the fact that VirtualDub isn't designed as a Media Player of sorts and the problem becomes really apparent. I wouldn't worry about it unless the finished product suffers from the same problem.

Every video automatically comes with 480p and 720p variants, but do I have to do anything special to make sure they look better?

Increase the bitrate in the encoding stage?

[omgrandomnumbers]

After going through VirtualDub, the file has choppy audio and lag even when I preview it. Guess very few things are meant to handle 12 GB uncompressed files. I won't worry unless the same problem strikes the finished mp4.

[omgrandomnumbers]

It looks exactly the same as when I recorded half-size. Why? I couldn't set the "quality" on my edition of MeGUI (the bitrate) above 64. What just happened? 

I suspect that the bitrate has something to do with the video quality. What's up with my MeGUI? I used the Touhou setting, if that's any help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoMX93UbpR4

[Barrakketh]

I suspect that the bitrate has something to do with the video quality. What's up with my MeGUI? I used the Touhou setting, if that's any help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoMX93UbpR4

The Touhou setting is just a tuning option for x264 and nothing more than an extra set of predefined options that will be applied after any preset you choose.  Any options set by a preset or tune will be overridden extra options specified.

You said "quality"...try setting it lower.  I don't use MeGUI, but it might be for either the --qp or --crf preferences.  In that case, lower is better.  Lower than 16 is probably unnecessary.

[Generalguy]

Is there a way for VirtualDub to split muxed files? I always have to do it before using Megui so I pretty much have to copy my entire giant .avi file.

And why does Windows Sound Recorder keep recording all that background noise?

[Code Slasher]

Maybe it's because you're trying to record at too high of a volume?

On a side note, for those of us that have x64 computers (there's a x86 version as well, but the x64 version is out-of-sight awesome), I'd recommend what I use for my Touhou fan game, Windows Media Encoder!  It's free off of the Microsoft website!  It does so much more than record nearly flawless screen videos, by the way.  It has a very professional design as well (it's not too hard to use, though).

[neosaver]

Ok, I'm going to give it a try, even if I had fun with my broken hypercam. :V
But first, I need details:
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/External_filters
On this page, I suppose it shows all the different filters, but like drake said, just get as many as you can, howeover, can someone summarise me the filters I really need to use? I don't have to download them all...or is it the case?

edit: ok, I did without you shrne maiden, tired of waiting. :V

well, no need of filters actually, but still, if you use Fraps, be sure to rec at 30fps (in the fraps movie menu) and force the 1/3 frameskip in the game custom, if you want to rec at full size and have a good quality. That's what I did and it works perfectly.

[Barrakketh]

edit: ok, I did without you shrne maiden, tired of waiting. :V

well, no need of filters actually, but still, if you use Fraps, be sure to rec at 30fps (in the fraps movie menu) and force the 1/3 frameskip in the game custom, if you want to rec at full size and have a good quality. That's what I did and it works perfectly.

Eh...in the rare occasions I record I do so at 60 FPS, no frameskip.  The only "filters" used are the scale and expand filters in mencoder (scale for upscaling, expand is used to pillarbox the video).

[HyperGumba]

Question before I even dare to try it out (seems like a lot of work, but I love how detailed the tutorial was) :
I only have 2GB RAM and a processor with 3.1 GHz. Alone playing Touhou games is fine, but when I record the stuff the games tend to lag in a perverted way, I can't go over 30fps in Fraps without making a spell practice replay longer than ten minutes. (that's how much it lags while recording). Anyone has an idea of how to reduce the lag effectively?  :3

[Barrakketh]

Question before I even dare to try it out (seems like a lot of work, but I love how detailed the tutorial was) :
I only have 2GB RAM and a processor with 3.1 GHz. Alone playing Touhou games is fine, but when I record the stuff the games tend to lag in a perverted way, I can't go over 30fps in Fraps without making a spell practice replay longer than ten minutes. (that's how much it lags while recording). Anyone has an idea of how to reduce the lag effectively?  :3

A 3.1 GHz what?  Core 2 Duo?  Old AthlonXP?

Do you have a slow hard drive (perhaps you're using a laptop)?

[HyperGumba]

Oh, I lack the knowledge of getting this information together, but I hope that a screenshot of the system specs gives you a clue (sorry about the screenshot, I can't copy the text in that window for some reason...)  :3

Oh, and I guess that it is no problem even if the language is German  :V

[Barrakketh]

Is it a laptop?  Regardless of whether the answer is yes or no, what graphics card are you using?

If you right-click the deskop, select Personalize, then pick "Display Settings" (for me it is at the bottom of the window) and you should be able to tell by that window.  For me it says "Generic PnP monitor on ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics" for the monitor I have my machine connected to, so your GPU will probably be listed at the end as well.

[Drake]

dxdiag is your friend.

[HyperGumba]

Oh yeah, I learned something new, thanks for the help. This is what dxdiag gave me:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/22/2010, 14:00:17
       Machine name: HG
   Operating System: Windows Vista? Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100608-0458)
           Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
       System Model: M61PME-S2
               BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 1473MB used, 2862MB available
        Windows Dir: X:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: The file nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL).  You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1269 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 501 MB
    Shared Memory: 767 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: PnP-Monitor (Standard)
      Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
   Driver Version: 7.15.0011.8084 (English)
      DDI Version: 10
   BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 12/2/2008 23:11:00, 6070272 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: No
  WHQL Date Stamp: None
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     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled

It is the main system and graphic device info. The .txt is attached too, if there is still something missing.  :derp:

[Barrakketh]

You might want to try updating your video drivers and see if that helps.  I think you want this one (I believe I picked the right language ).

You can also go here and fill out the form (GeForce, GeForce 9 Series, 9600 GT, Vista 32-bit).

[RainfallYoshi]

Youtube is still fucking up my videos with horrible audio lag, my last upload even froze up for the last 20 seconds. What the crap.

[Axel Ryman]

I'm having a bit of audio issues myself, mainly audio plays twice over on Youtube but not on the actual video. Like the start of a song plays and then 2-3 seconds after the the song starts again and repeats.


Edit: Nevermind, fixed it. Was something I did.

[Helepolis]

Want to say again here that Megui still is crashing on my Windows 7 OS. The moment I try to add the source video with Avisynth script it goes boom.

If anybody knows the solution or can help out, please do. Because virtual dub is pissing me off.

[CrimsonDX]

Im havin a bit of trouble. I can record perfectly, but when it comes time to combine the separate parts together it all goes wrong. The frame rate goes to hell when I combine them together turning what was a perfectly smooth video into a stuttering mess.

[Barrakketh]

Im havin a bit of trouble. I can record perfectly, but when it comes time to combine the separate parts together it all goes wrong. The frame rate goes to hell when I combine them together turning what was a perfectly smooth video into a stuttering mess.

Does the encoded video (sans audio) play fine, or does it only screw up after muxing?

[CrimsonDX]

I haven't tried running them through MeGUI yet, but before I actually put them through VirtualDub they run perfectly. Its only after VirtualDub gets its hands on it that it messes up.

[Ghaleon]

As I've said before all this helped me tremendously so thanks again. My videos used to look like crap, and now they look fine.
However lately I've been noticing a strange bug with my videos on youtube. They sometimes think they're done loading, but they aren't. So even though the red progress bar is completely full, the video arbitrarly stops at some point. Not only that, but because it "thinks" its done, it doesn't bother downloading the rest of the video. So.. No mater how long you wait, it will NOT go past a certain (random every time you refresh, sometimes the whole thing works) point.

I suspect this has something to do with the video's filesize. I hear people talk about their 10 min videos being less than 100 megs after megui compression, but mine are still around 500 megs. (with a 13-15 min video). I realize that Youtube applies its own compression after you upload the video, but I don't exactly know if my videos still remain larger than normal after it goes thru that, or not. If  anybody has any ideas of how to shrink my post youtube compression size or something (or knows exactly how to fix my problem) I'd appreciate it.

Also, people talk about recording at 30fps. I don't really mind 60 because I got the HD space and I just delete the files after I'm done uploading, but would that help do you think? How about Virtual-dub applied XVid compression? Is it a bad idea to combine that with meGUI or not? I haven't just tried because every time I do I get an error message talking about filters and it being "highly unusual". But I have no clue wtf it wants me to do to fix it GG. I can probably just delete and install a newer version or something but don't really want to bother only to find out it wouldn't help anyway.

[Barrakketh]

As I've said before all this helped me tremendously so thanks again. My videos used to look like crap, and now they look fine.
However lately I've been noticing a strange bug with my videos on youtube. They sometimes think they're done loading, but they aren't. So even though the red progress bar is completely full, the video arbitrarly stops at some point. Not only that, but because it "thinks" its done, it doesn't bother downloading the rest of the video. So.. No mater how long you wait, it will NOT go past a certain (random every time you refresh, sometimes the whole thing works) point.

That's probably a problem with the Flash plugin.  Hell, I remember Zengeku having a problem with a couple of his recently uploaded videos being "zoomed out" whenever you viewed them.  It's like the Youtube player wasn't recognizing that it was actually pillar-boxed 720p and he had to fix that with a special tag on the video ("yt:crop=16:9").

Out of curiosity, have you tried watching the same video (and the same resolution) in a different browser?

I suspect this has something to do with the video's filesize. I hear people talk about their 10 min videos being less than 100 megs after megui compression, but mine are still around 500 megs. (with a 13-15 min video). I realize that Youtube applies its own compression after you upload the video, but I don't exactly know if my videos still remain larger than normal after it goes thru that, or not. If  anybody has any ideas of how to shrink my post youtube compression size or something (or knows exactly how to fix my problem) I'd appreciate it.

I would say a 10 minute 720p video being < 100 MB to be a little crazy, but maybe the people who are having those results are the same people whose videos have very heavy macroblocking.  Touhou doesn't compress as well as some other sources.

Youtube is pretty aggressive with their compression, and you can download the compressed MP4 of your uploaded video from your videos (go to your videos and click the drop-down arrow next to "Edit" and "Insight") if you want to download them and check the size.

[CrimsonDX]

YAY my video was fixed! I guess it was my computer after all. It couldn't handle playing a 16+ gig file

[Barrakketh]

YAY my video was fixed! I guess it was my computer after all. It couldn't handle playing a 16+ gig file

That shouldn't have been an issue, but are you saying that the joined video was the one that wouldn't play right even though the original segments would?

[CrimsonDX]

That shouldn't have been an issue, but are you saying that the joined video was the one that wouldn't play right even though the original segments would?

Yes. The individual segments played perfectly and the final MeGUI file would play perfectly. But, the joined file out of VirtualDub would stutter worse than William Denbrough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nbQ50-fD0E here is the final upload to youtube.

[Barrakketh]

Yes. The individual segments played perfectly and the final MeGUI file would play perfectly. But, the joined file out of VirtualDub would stutter worse than William Denbrough.

If the output from VirtualDub was uncompressed your hard drive was probably too slow for the video to play properly.  Fraps recordings are losslessly compressed so the small size savings there probably what let you play those fine.

[Agent of the BSoD]

I have a question to ask. MeGUI is a bit strange with coloring when the video gets converted to ConvertToYV12(). I know from experience that you need to convert it using this. The best way to notice this is when I record (using Hypercam 3) Touhou 2. Where the yellow text stuff on the side is, it records it fine, nice bright yellow color. BUT, after processing this through MeGUI, that yellow color (and other colors) are changed and look more dull and off-color. Is there anyway to fix that or is that just the way it is?

Note: it's MUCH easier to notice with the PC98 games since those have less colors compared to anything windows related.

[Barrakketh]

I have a question to ask. MeGUI is a bit strange with coloring when the video gets converted to ConvertToYV12(). I know from experience that you need to convert it using this. The best way to notice this is when I record (using Hypercam 3) Touhou 2. Where the yellow text stuff on the side is, it records it fine, nice bright yellow color. BUT, after processing this through MeGUI, that yellow color (and other colors) are changed and look more dull and off-color. Is there anyway to fix that or is that just the way it is?

Note: it's MUCH easier to notice with the PC98 games since those have less colors compared to anything windows related.

Note that I don't use MeGUI so I can't tell you exactly how to do this.  Instead of ConvertToYV12(), change it to:

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ConvertToYV12(matrix="pc.709")
And for the x264 options add "--fullrange on".  If that doesn't look right you might need to change "pc.709" to "pc.601", but that is dependent on what you have decoding your video.

[Agent of the BSoD]

Note that I don't use MeGUI so I can't tell you exactly how to do this.  Instead of ConvertToYV12(), change it to:

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ConvertToYV12(matrix="pc.709")
And for the x264 options add "--fullrange on".  If that doesn't look right you might need to change "pc.709" to "pc.601", but that is dependent on what you have decoding your video.

That does in fact make it look much better! It's not perfect though. Some colors still look off-color.