@J.O.B: It looks to me like you haven't really learned much at all over the past few games, and to be blunt, I'm honestly surprised Pesco hasn't Lynched you given posts like #
315 305. You act like you want to learn but I don't think you actually try to do so, and this is something you definitely need to work on. Out of everyone I'm probably the most irritated with you, mainly because of observations made over time instead of frustrations from this game alone.
@Shadoweh: This game basically has me convinced that your methods of stating your reads as if they're facts (as in, stuff like "player is town because he is") just make people irritated with you and make them more likely to believe that you're scum. This is just as much your fault as it is theirs. I feel like
what I said about LSD during Graveyard postgame applies to you somewhat as well. There's a difference between having confidence in your reads and acting like you have to be in the right. The first of the two scares scum, the latter just makes people want to punch you over the internet and makes you a good scapegoat if scum can play on the town irritation toward you. Honestly, I was irritated with a lot of what Youmu/Myon said during Graveyard for similiar reasons, but never brought it up because A. I thought you and UK were in part doing it on purpose to piss off townies because you were scum and B. I totally forgot because I am a doofus.
Also, I have no idea if the mentality of "everyone voting me is clearly in the wrong" you seem to have is serious or not, but if it is, then it seems dangerous to me. Getting lynched should be a learning experience, and if you're blaming it on everyone else, then you're not gaining anything from your death.
@Serela: I've probably said this to you before, but you would benifit a lot from making sure your posts sound stable and that you've completed all your thoughts before you post. Otherwise stuff like the end of D2 happens. I can't blame you too much for this because I have the problem of posting before I finish a thought too sometimes, but it's still something where working on it would make people listen to you more IMO.
I forgot everything else I was going to say. :x Ultimately I'm not really mad at Zak right now even if I do believe he should have been carded. I hate the fact that I had to modkill but don't hate the person I modkilled, if that makes sense (though I was definitely irritated when I actually had to post about killing him). I was originally a little miffed at PX's fakerage toward JOB too but after talking with Pesco I feel it's probably more a problem of me interpreting things the wrong way (which I suppose everything else here might stem from as well, but oh well) than PX actually being a jerk. Though the way he went about the self-hammer was honestly a bit dickish, even though I didn't have a problem with the suicide itself given the circumstances. <_< Self-hammering in general is kind of unnecessarily spiteful, and badfeelings are never a good thing for town. We're supposed to be Friends Forever.
The seasonal break seems like a good thing to me. I definitely want to just stay away from MotK Mafiers from a while since I've obviously been getting too emotional for the past few games (this one and Psycho Prophecy).
Edit: I'm having trouble expressing most of my irritation with JOB properly, but I think the best way to put it would be that I feel everything he does comes off as selfish. Like, he doesn't really care what the other players think or whether he's helping his alignment so long as he's experiencing the game, which is probably why he doesn't seem to be learning at all.
That said, if there's one thing I've learned from playing Mafia lately, it's that I suck at reading into people's intentions sometimes, so this might just be the way I'm personally interpreting the words of you guys.
