Maidens of the Kaleidoscope

~Beyond the Border~ => Rumia's Party Games => Mystia's Stored Games => Topic started by: Pesco on September 10, 2012, 01:45:16 PM

Title: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 10, 2012, 01:45:16 PM
In a world ruled by the evil organization, SHOCKER, only the Kamen Riders have the strength to fight for humanity's freedom. Many other nefarious groups have joined in SHOCKER's plans to rid the world of Riders. Kamen Riders from across time have now gathered to make a final stand. But before that, you'll need to root out the altered-human agents in your midst.

General Rules
1 Play to win. Or else don't play at all and get replaced.
2 All game days will start with 100% of time remaining. Each votecount will deduct some percentage of time. The amount deducted is based on meaningful activity from the players since the last vote count.
3 LyLo will be declared. It has no effect on the deadline mechanic. Variants of LyLo will not be differentiated.
4 You may use your abilities, if you have any, at the times specified in your role PM.
5 Any faction that can kill may choose one of their own to perform their factional kill ability or not.
6 Do not directly quote any mod communication in any way, including screenshots. Have a mod look over a post if you are unsure.
7 If your role PM does not say you can do something, you can not do it. Ask the mod if in doubt. All players can at least post in the game and have one vote.
8 Voting must be in the format of ##Vote Name. Unvoting is not required before placing a new vote. If you are placing the hammer vote, you must use one of the finishing moves (prefixed with ##) allowed by your Rider form given in your role PM or it will not count.
9 You may only be cut by Rider Slash or a similar finishing move. Claiming to be cut for any other reason will be treated as you voting yourself with the intention of self-hammering.
10 If no majority is reached, there will be no lynch and all factional kills are doubled for that night.
11 Lurkers will not be prodded. Players who intend to lurk must give prior notice to the mod. If I think you have flaked, you will be modkilled and your faction punished.
12 Flavour for all roles is given in your role PM. You are encouraged to use it. Everything in your role PM beyond the first sentence is relevant information.
13 Do not be a Kaixa or IXA. Being a Kabuto is acceptable because he is in the game.
14 Rules infractions will be marked on any offending posts. 5 rules infractions will result in a modkill.
15 Rules may be appended as necessary.

Still human
1 Kabuto
2 Sasword
3 Kick Hopper
4 Punch Hopper
5 Den-O
6 Decade
7 DiEnd
8 Kiva-la
9 W
10 Skull
11 OOO

Made into a kaijin


Links


Role PMs going out. Confirm by the method given in your role PM. The game will begin once all players have confirmed.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Sasword on September 10, 2012, 02:18:05 PM
Change Scorpion
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Skull on September 10, 2012, 02:31:09 PM
S
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: W on September 10, 2012, 03:41:06 PM
We are ready for action!

[pesco]Rules infraction 1[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: W on September 10, 2012, 03:56:10 PM
Transform!

Cyclone

[pesco]Rules infraction 2
Confirmation is already done, just stop before you get yourself modkilled before the game even begins[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: OOO on September 10, 2012, 03:57:03 PM
Taka! Tora! Batta!
TaToBa, TaToBa-TaToBa!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: W on September 10, 2012, 04:25:19 PM
CHANGE JOKER

[pesco]Rules infraction 1[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 10, 2012, 08:27:25 PM
CHANGE PUNCH HOPPER
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Decade on September 10, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
Kamen Rider DECADE

[pesco]Rules infraction 1[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Decade on September 10, 2012, 09:32:34 PM
Kamen Ride: Decade

Can't read role PMs
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 10, 2012, 10:33:30 PM
Hikari family's secret technique: Laughing Pressure Point!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Den-O on September 11, 2012, 12:18:14 AM
The time train, DenLiner! Will its next stop be in the past or the future?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Kabuto on September 11, 2012, 06:01:52 AM
Confirm.

[pesco]Rules infraction 1[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Kabuto on September 11, 2012, 06:02:52 AM
err CHANGE BEETLE

[pesco]Rules infraction 2[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 11, 2012, 03:16:48 PM
CHANGE KICK HOPPER
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Pregame)
Post by: DiEnd on September 11, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
Kamen Ride: DiEnd
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 11, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Let's do this man-to-man!

Time remaining in the day: 100%
11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch. When the hammer vote is placed, no more changes in voting can occur. You may continue talking until the flip.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
wow other half way to get 2 infractions before the game even starts

Now, count up your sins!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
Transform! Go, GaiaJoker!

This game is in my iron clad rule. But before I accuse others of being the enemy, I must deal with my greatest enemy: myself.

##Vote: W

Clearly  my other me is just as much a threat to this city as these impostors!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 08:53:01 PM
wtf is wrong with you

##unvote
This clinches it
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
Oh wait, that isn't a valid transformation

Transform! HeatJoker!

How dare you unvote yourself, me! This clenches it! You really ARE the more evil of us!

[pesco]You did your transformation colours wrong[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
im tired of your bullshit.... you also look gay in red
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 11, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
W! Get a hold of yourself! How are we supposed to deal with the enemy if you're at your own throat?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 11, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
(http://www.gundammodelkits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Project-BM-No.-44-Kamen-Rider-Skull-01.jpg)

Really W? Really??!

Stealing my goddamn tagline.  protege's these days, taking copyrighted material for their own.

If any of you bastards try to steal my fedora during the night, I will shoot you dead with my skull magnum.


A man's job is 80% lynching Shadoweh D1.  Her scum flip is just a bonus.

##Vote: Den-O

Even from our untampered mod confirmation messages, I can tell that's you

Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 09:18:28 PM
##Vote: Skull

i dont need your crap. your hat looks dumb too, that's my hardboiled style.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 09:21:35 PM
I won't let you make this city cry, Skull, guns are against the law!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 11, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
On the other hand, swords are perfectly legal. Right?

We might have a problem otherwise.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
so is wearing hats on top of masks, is my iron-clad rule.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 09:31:25 PM
This time I won't get it wrong! Transform! LunaJoker!

Transforming is finally in my iron clad rule!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 11, 2012, 10:22:58 PM
you look fat in that yellow

Now, count up your sins!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 11, 2012, 11:39:36 PM
Grandmother always said that you can't afford having distractions around when you're doing something important.

##Vote W
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: DiEnd on September 11, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
##Vote Kabuto

Bugger off.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 12, 2012, 12:17:17 AM
Your puns aren't punny!

##Vote DiEnd
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 12, 2012, 01:08:23 AM
So some quick research says Kamen Rider W is two people. This is completely unfair.

##Vote: Kiva-la Girly Kamen Rider
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 12, 2012, 01:11:47 AM
So W is being played by two people? Presumably on the same team, being as W's halfs can't be voted on.
Also,

##unvote

Also, the joker half didn't bold the unvote, which possibly might not remove the self-vote, or have a later vote on Skull.
Now, to the future!

Cut: By Kick
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 01:24:24 AM
So W is being played by two people? Presumably on the same team, being as W's halfs can't be voted on.
The two of us are one Kamen Rider.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 12, 2012, 01:28:53 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Den-O Rod Form!
##Vote Kabuto
I'm just a passing through Kamen Rider, remember that!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 12, 2012, 02:37:38 AM
##Vote: Kiva-la Girly Kamen Rider
What's wrong with being a girl? :c

##Vote Kick Hopper
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 03:46:35 AM
So W is being played by two people? Presumably on the same team, being as W's halfs can't be voted on.
Also, Also, the joker half didn't bold the unvote, which possibly might not remove the self-vote, or have a later vote on Skull.
Now, to the future!

Cut: By Kick

So much facepalm in this post. Should probably read the rules again
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 12, 2012, 04:09:22 AM

##Vote: OOO

:smug:
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 12, 2012, 04:21:48 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Kabuto Masked Form
##Vote Punch Hopper

No
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 12, 2012, 04:33:52 AM
No?
Well, don't be shy. Spit it out!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 12, 2012, 06:54:52 AM
  • A least one slot is some sort of bastard slot.
  • Sasword, Skull, and OOO are all potential candidates for Pesco!modscum.

##Vote: OOO

:smug:

Hey, hey, hey. No need to get all personal with me. We should just get along till we find out who's the most scummy, don't you agree?

I'll transform!

Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 12, 2012, 07:50:18 AM
Climax Jump! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov2-oqKcsFo&feature=share&list=PL50397A9FA9494583) Votecount

Kabuto: DiEnd
Sasword:
Kick Hopper: Kiva-la
Punch Hopper: Decade
Den-O: Skull, Den-O (self-hammer)
Decade:
DiEnd:
Kiva-la: Kick Hopper
W: Kabuto
Skull: W
OOO: Punch Hopper

Not Voting: Sasword, OOO

11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch.
Time remaining in the day: 89%
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 12, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
Should probably read the rules again
Ugh, thanks. Den-O comes from the past and is being familarized with the present.
##unvote

@Punch Hopper: Don't pay attention to the sign-ups, Den-O's player isn't listed there. Meaning there are 12 players for 11 spots, +1 for W. 12 & 12.

[pesco]Confirming this bit just in terms of the signup numbers. I did say just before starting I was waiting for the last confirmation. Den-O is the 12th signup[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
  • Signup thread has 11 players.
  • This game has 11 slots.
  • W is confirmed to be 2 players in one.
  • A least one slot is some sort of bastard slot.
  • Pesco went to sleep some time between posts #29 and #30.
  • Everyone who posted after that is probably not!Pesco.
  • Sasword, Skull, and OOO are all potential candidates for Pesco!modscum.

##Vote: OOO

:smug:

In the sign ups Pesco said they were for 12 people to fill 11 roles. Evidently the 2 people playing W are counted as 1 player for the purposes of the game. Pesco also said it's not hard to figure out why if you know your Riders.

So I highly doubt someone is Pesco in disguise. Could be wrong.

I shall stay my sword until I actually have something to go on.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 12, 2012, 11:56:54 AM
My god this city is half dead. I will be repeating my catchphrase often. This place is still a hell.

How can it have been this long with the best you fools can come up with being arguing about Kamen Rider Double being two people? When I said I did research I mean I looked up what Kamen Rider W is. If you ignoramuses could have bothered to look you'd know the rider is two people combined. Instead you're trying to find Pesco scum. He's right there doing votecounts.

Kiva-la: Being a girl is less of an offense then having such a kickable face. I bet you follow the light like a weakling. Follow me or I'll punt you into hell.

I shall also recruit Den-O as he seems like a suitable protege. PunchHopper learn to be more like Den-O or I'll have to get a new waifu.

People who say they're going to wait and see really get under my suit. Plus aimless wondering about something that's a joke at best. Forward my agents of Shadow! Eliminate the worm!

##Vote: Sasword


Decade: You just laughed at my little brother, didn't you? I'll destroy you.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 12:06:01 PM
Accusing me of being a worm? How dare you! I will not stand for such an insult!

##Vote Kick Hopper
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 12, 2012, 12:41:26 PM
But you are a worm.
Reactionary vote noted. Go to hell. By which I mean die, and not the insulting kind. Because hell is where I am. In the darkness.
Darknessssssssssss
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 12:50:58 PM
The two of us are one Kamen Rider!
The two of us are one Kamen Rider!

Fools! arguing over the game mechanics the game mechanics have already been explained! We could be using this time to find the impostors among us!

Now, count up your sins!

Punch Hopper! I won' let you make this city cry! Your game modhunt is doing us no good in finding our impostors! You must redouble your efforts in the true ways of Kamen Rider or be defeated by the likes of the enemy!
Sasword! Your reactivity to insults is clouding your vision! This clenches it, you may very well be the enemy in disguise!
OOO! Participation is my iron clad rule! You should have something to say, rather then just posting with vapid comment and doing nothing else! For this, you must be punished!

Transform! HeatJoker

Now! Attack! ##Unvote
Rider Kick! ##Vote: OOO

<Dormio> Rules infraction 3
[pesco]Nevermind[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
But you are a worm.
Reactionary vote noted. Go to hell. By which I mean die, and not the insulting kind. Because hell is where I am. In the darkness.
Darknessssssssssss

No, you must be lying! I can't be a worm!

Pointing out a reactionary vote ED1 when everyone's mainly voting for flavor and has nothing to actually go on noted. ED1 flavor votes mean little to nothing.

Besides, why would I go to hell? I am the man who swings a sword in the name of God!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 12, 2012, 04:07:54 PM
Sasword! Your reactivity to insults is clouding your vision! This clenches it, you may very well be the enemy in disguise!
OOO! Participation is my iron clad rule! You should have something to say, rather then just posting with vapid comment and doing nothing else! For this, you must be punished!

Transform![/color] HeatJoker

Now! Attack! ##Unvote
Rider Kick! ##Vote: OOO

I am but a lone man in a sea of desires. I do not strike until I see a clear path towards the truth! But if you insist, W, be it my mistake! First, towards you, I shall voice out. Your hostility towards others is u bearable! You claim that anyone between Sasword, or Myself could be the impostor, but are you doing this for the sake of your beloved Fuuto City, or because you want to single one of us out, the weakest of us, and turn the tides in your favour?

I have seen nothing from Sasword but only self-defense which is natural for one who is unable to take insults. Yet from this I cannot say that you are the impostor - you may just be a half-boiled, overprotective detective trying to protect us all.

But this, I can see:
People who say they're going to wait and see really get under my suit. Plus aimless wondering about something that's a joke at best. Forward my agents of Shadow! Eliminate the worm!

##Vote: Sasword


Decade: You just laughed at my little brother, didn't you? I'll destroy you.

You voted against Sasword because you don't like how he holds himself back from action - yet you do not defend your little brother even though he was laughed at? You instead only threaten Decade. What are you up to?

##Vote Kick Hopper
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 12, 2012, 04:09:34 PM
I do apologize for the English errors in my post. This Kamen Rider is sleepy and posting from an IPad.

[pesco]I see what you did there[/pesco]
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:39:31 PM
^
##Vote: OOO
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:42:28 PM
Wait, me, my vote is already on OOO, I don't believe it works that way!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:43:36 PM
Dont tell me what to do
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
But I just did tell me what to do
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:49:28 PM
my brain ;__________;
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 05:50:22 PM
Also i am hoping from OOO on a full explanation on what pesco meant.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: DiEnd on September 12, 2012, 06:54:53 PM
@W is two in one.
I ask you both to refrain from cluttering thread with your arguments.
@Den-O is that unvote on purpose?
##unvote
##vote OOO

You cast needless suspicions upon us.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
##unvote
##vote OOO

You cast needless suspicions upon us.

The only one he casted suspicion upon was Kick Hopper, for a somewhat valid reason. I fail to understand the reason why his suspicion is needless, and upon 'us' implying multiple people, when he only suspected Kick Hopper.

Pretty much all the votes so far are more 'needless suspicion' than his.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 07:06:30 PM
Quote
You voted against Sasword because you don't like how he holds himself back from action - yet you do not defend your little brother even though he was laughed at? You instead only threaten Decade. What are you up to?

in what way was this a somewhatvalid reason
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
in what way was this a somewhatvalid reason

It's more valid that most of the other reasons people have given to vote others. Such as puns not being punny, being girly, and others.

Bear in mind I was voted despite being far from the only 'reactionary' vote. Kiva-la did it too.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 12, 2012, 07:46:58 PM
(http://www.gundammodelkits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Master-Grade-Figurerise-18-Kamen-Rider-Skull-Review-By-Dalong-17.jpg)

I'll be back,

-S
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 12, 2012, 09:06:07 PM
Yup, imagine that plastic spike up your butt needs some attending to.

@DiEnd: Didn't understand rule #9 the first time I read it in post #34, resulting in a self vote. Unvoted to take it off. So, yes it was on purpose.

Early D1 reactions, and reactionary actions seems like town or scum hunting for something to build a case on.

@OOO: Cab you explain that again, without the flavor please?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 12, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
It's more valid that most of the other reasons people have given to vote others. Such as puns not being punny, being girly, and others.

Bear in mind I was voted despite being far from the only 'reactionary' vote. Kiva-la did it too.
no actually i was just pointing out that the reason i quoted didnt make anysense. that post was 99% fluff and made little to do with anything
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 12, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
no actually i was just pointing out that the reason i quoted didnt make anysense. that post was 99% fluff and made little to do with anything

99% fluff is less that 100% fluff.

Early D1 reactions, and reactionary actions seems like town or scum hunting for something to build a case on.

Basically my entire point when I said:

Pointing out a reactionary vote ED1 when everyone's mainly voting for flavor and has nothing to actually go on noted. ED1 flavor votes mean little to nothing.

Kick Hopper was looking for a reason to start a lynch mob with nothing to actually go on. Especially since ED1 staying your vote instead of just randomly throwing it about is sensible.

The fact he made such a big deal of a ED1 reactionary vote, especially when one had been made before, gives the impression he's out for blood quickly. Although it's no indication of if he's town or scum, like you yourself said, it's possibly something to note.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 12, 2012, 11:26:49 PM
Popping in to say I'm still alive, folks

In the middle of something at the moment, it's gonna take hours unfortunately. I apologize.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 13, 2012, 12:38:19 AM
##unvote
##vote OOO

You cast needless suspicions upon us.

There is no us, there is only one. I have only noticed some mysterious play from Kick Hopper, who instead of defending his brother who was "laughed at" by onore decadedo, decided to do a random lash-out at an unsuspicious individual such as Sasword.

I will explain more when I am back from visiting Fourze. (aka School)
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 13, 2012, 01:04:44 AM
What reason would kick hopper need to defend his brother?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 13, 2012, 01:59:29 AM
Kick Hopper was looking for a reason to start a lynch mob with nothing to actually go on. Especially since ED1 staying your vote instead of just randomly throwing it about is sensible.

The fact he made such a big deal of a ED1 reactionary vote, especially when one had been made before, gives the impression he's out for blood quickly. Although it's no indication of if he's town or scum, like you yourself said, it's possibly something to note.
Yes that is normally how you get this started, by being insane and inciting people to kill over perceived worminess. If anyone is a worm it's you. Look into your heart! If you want to destroy them all the start is with you!

I fell asleep while posting this. I don't remember where I was going with this anymore. Oh well. This place is still hell.

I went out of my way to defend my brrrrrrrrrrrrrrother, what are you talking about? How many times will I get to use my catchphrase so easily?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 13, 2012, 02:06:07 AM
What reason would kick hopper need to defend his brother?
Well, there's the possibility the two of them could make one Kamen Rider.

oh wait that's stupid

It's a tad disconcerting we haven't gotten far out of RVS yet. This clenches it, something must be done!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 13, 2012, 03:22:52 AM
Leggy, if either of us is the waifu it's you. I see through your tricks, scoundrel! Stop pretending to be me or I'll you wa shock to another dimension.

..no one is making any sense. DiEnd, what are you talking about?

I'm not sure how serious OOO and Sasword are in their votes against Leggy but the reasons seem pretty disingenuous. Sasword; Leggy's original vote wasn't for you being reactionary so is there any reason that's how you're presenting it as? Even so, going OH BUT OTHER PEOPLE DID IT TOO..come on.
OOO's vote is just as nonsensical and I want to know how Leggy's theoretical non-defence of me is relevant at all to your vote. All this while ignoring Leggy's original reasoning for voting Sasword, again.

In conclusion, ???

At least W is posting sense.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 13, 2012, 03:26:13 AM
##Unvote
##Vote: OOO

Serious vote now oh man.
I think I know who Sasword so I see the same defensiveness I've seen before. Read a little closer because it doesn't look like you're doing that. Also, if people just sat on their ED1 votes all day nothing would happen. Someone has to take the plunge.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 13, 2012, 03:37:41 AM
Oh hey this is the game without prods so it's up to the players to do it themselves.

HEY KABUTO, IT'S BEEN 28 HOURS SINCE YOUR LAST POST. GET IN THE THREAD. EVEN YOUR LURKER FRIENDS HAVE THE COURTESY TO PROD-DODGE.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 13, 2012, 07:28:16 AM
I was busy walking the path of heaven, but now I have returned to grace you all with my presence.

...and barely anything worth paying attention to has happened. Punch Hopper at least seems to be trying to do something.

Kick Hopper was looking for a reason to start a lynch mob with nothing to actually go on. Especially since ED1 staying your vote instead of just randomly throwing it about is sensible.
Those are some big accusations to throw out over RVS shenanigans.

##Vote Sasword

Not a big fan of DiEnd's "You cast needless suspicion upon us" quip. Nothing else really sticks out in this mess of babble.

Requesting votecount as it's been about 24 hours since the last, so a day remainder update would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 13, 2012, 07:35:35 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Kiva Gurulu Form!
##Vote Kiva-la


Seems like a pointless random post.
Also, stop all the Double spam.
This world is still not my own.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 13, 2012, 07:39:41 AM
Those are some big accusations to throw out over RVS shenanigans.

Not really, I've seen enough people try and start up a policy lynch for reasons like 'They won't vote during RVS'. And Kick's reasoning smelt of Policy.

Anyway, seeing as we're moving away from our random pointless votes:

## Unvote
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 13, 2012, 08:36:59 AM
I accused you of doing something scummy and voted accordingly, encouraging others to join my legion of Shadow against you. How is this a Policy reason? I'm irritated that people are accusing me of both being an RVS wonder and a policy lyncher. I want you dead until I don't. Prove your loyalty or be exterminated like an invader. You were also pushing back seriously against me. Removing your vote as a 'random pointless vote' absolves you of responsibility for your actions. Heroes stand firm! Villains cower and hide! Are you a Worm or are you a Kamen Rider!?

Punchy I swear to my Zecter I will kick you out of that sissy costume and dress you like a bee.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 13, 2012, 08:45:04 AM
@Decade: Skull has been nearly as helpful.  Any reason for choosing one over the other?

@Sasword: Your vote on Kick Hopper was a "random pointless vote"? If you were a train, changing directions so fast would topple you over.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 13, 2012, 09:05:30 AM
Sasword's empty unvote is less than impressive, and I agree with Den-O that the way he calls it a random pointless vote feels disjointed after the way he'd been pushing it.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 13, 2012, 09:12:52 AM
My primary reason for voting Kick Hopper was him insulting me by calling me a worm. The insult is immense, but I'm over such petty things now.

After that about all I did was point out, and re-affirm what OOO said, about him making a big deal of a reactionary vote ED1. I even said it is no indication of is he is scum or town.

If the one pushing is saying it's no indication, is it even pushing at all?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 13, 2012, 09:13:22 AM
Take that back, it wasn't OOO. It was Den-O
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 13, 2012, 09:25:56 AM
The fact that you went back on your vote and don't have any follow ups on anything else is still bad.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: DiEnd on September 13, 2012, 11:00:01 AM
The only one he casted suspicion upon was Kick Hopper, for a somewhat valid reason. I fail to understand the reason why his suspicion is needless, and upon 'us' implying multiple people, when he only suspected Kick Hopper.

Pretty much all the votes so far are more 'needless suspicion' than his.
OOO subtly enforced suspicion on W with his sarcastic way of talking, even when W was no longer a target for him at the time.

I am but a lone man in a sea of desires. I do not strike until I see a clear path towards the truth! But if you insist, W, be it my mistake! First, towards you, I shall voice out. Your hostility towards others is u bearable! You claim that anyone between Sasword, or Myself could be the impostor, but are you doing this for the sake of your beloved Fuuto City, or because you want to single one of us out, the weakest of us, and turn the tides in your favour?

If you read the colored fonts, you can see that suspicion.

I have seen nothing from Sasword but only self-defense which is natural for one who is unable to take insults. Yet from this I cannot say that you are the impostor - you may just be a half-boiled, overprotective detective trying to protect us all.

This is also a major discrediting on OOOs part to Sasword, I see this as a discrediting of Sasword's words due to trying to enforce the belief that Sasword is completely reactionary.

I do not like how people are ganging up on Sasword due to the unvote, a similiar thing has happened before and it was blown out of proportion, nearly making people lose sight of other things.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 13, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
^
##Vote: OOO
Also i am hoping from OOO on a full explanation on what pesco meant.

Ankh used to have an iPad before he disappeared... It's one of the few items I have left after he left us... But I'll get him back, somehow.

@The Rest

Ankh told me once that I have a distorted view of the world. I don't know if that has changed yet, but I'll grasp onto the future and pull those in need back. Firstly...
OOO subtly enforced suspicion on W with his sarcastic way of talking, even when W was no longer a target for him at the time.

If you read the colored fonts, you can see that suspicion.

This is also a major discrediting on OOOs part to Sasword, I see this as a discrediting of Sasword's words due to trying to enforce the belief that Sasword is completely reactionary.

Yes, even though I enforced suspicion, It was not sarcastic at all - It is how I speak. And I then cast away that suspicion with my latter sentence.

Yet from this I cannot say that you are the impostor - you may just be a half-boiled, overprotective detective trying to protect us all.

This shows that I still have a neutral stance to W.

Decade: You just laughed at my little brother, didn't you? I'll destroy you.

And yet, he voted for Sasword for his own reasons instead of aiding his brother in ways other then idle threats? "Konowaro Dekadedo!" is what I hear in my mind.

I'm not sure how serious OOO and Sasword are in their votes against Leggy but the reasons seem pretty disingenuous. Sasword; Leggy's original vote wasn't for you being reactionary so is there any reason that's how you're presenting it as? Even so, going OH BUT OTHER PEOPLE DID IT TOO..come on.
OOO's vote is just as nonsensical and I want to know how Leggy's theoretical non-defence of me is relevant at all to your vote. All this while ignoring Leggy's original reasoning for voting Sasword, again.

In conclusion, ???

I hope you can put this all together. Kamen Riders should help each other, right?

Henshin! Taka! Kujaku! Condor!
Ta...Ja...Dor!

In other news, would any of you want a popstickle?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 13, 2012, 12:13:54 PM
The fact that you went back on your vote and don't have any follow ups on anything else is still bad.

It's not like there is much else to follow up on at this point, Kabuto, except the issues people are raising about me, which I have addressed. I have explained that my reason for voting Kick Hopper was completely separate to my 'Other people did reactionary votes too', which was basically me saying 'Stop making a big deal of a reactionary vote ED1.'

It's a little hard to follow up on myself, seeing it's the only thing being bantered around.

Personally, I have no intention of voting myself.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 13, 2012, 12:26:44 PM

Break the Chain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EypoY9b1RyM) Votecount

Kabuto:
Sasword: Kick Hopper, Kabuto
Kick Hopper: Kiva-la, OOO
Punch Hopper:
Den-O: Skull,
Decade:
DiEnd:
Kiva-la: Decade
W:
Skull:
OOO: Punch Hopper, W, DiEnd

Not Voting: Den-O, Sasword

11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch.
Time remaining in the day: 76%
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 13, 2012, 11:08:44 PM
What does a "popstickle" do? Den-O can be a volunteer.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 12:43:16 AM
Guys, the level of activity in this game is a fucking disgrace. The general lethargy could mean that scum don't really care about the direction the game is currently going. I'm looking at Skull and Kiva-la for not providing any content of note despite the fact that two days have already passed (in a 72-hour day we'd already be in the last 24 hours). Would run either of these two up in a heartbeat; fuck lurkers. Decade, you've posted but you seem to be ignoring the general happenings-on; what's up with that?

Den-O: Why aren't you voting?

OOO, you're speaking nonsense. Are you seriously taking what looks like a bit of RP and making a serious vote off of that? I'll save you the trouble and tell you that you're at the very least barking up the wrong tree if that's your main gripe.

Sasword: So your initial vote was RP, correct? Sure. That said, the current passivity is bad. You're hardly the only topic of conversation so stop being so defensive and take a pro-active look at other people. Right now it looks like you're expecting other people to do your scumhunting for you so you can piggyback onto a case later, which is scummy. Show some initiative, hombre.

Leggy: Bite me. It's my birthday; you can't do anything to me.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 14, 2012, 01:45:16 AM
It is not! Stop mocking me damnit!

I don't think OOO sounds that bad. He's certainly put his foot in his mouth with what he's persuing, and instead of backing down like a sane man he's pushing back. There's a serious lack of momentum anywhere else though. :|

It's a little hard to follow up on myself, seeing it's the only thing being bantered around.

Personally, I have no intention of voting myself.
. :| Then what do you want people to do? If you don't like the current topic, pick a useless lurker that we could be voting instead. Then at least we might get some dialogue started.

Punchy is the only one I like so far. Very fitting. Come brrrrrrrrrrrrrother! You can feel the passive! Destroy this infidel with me!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 14, 2012, 02:50:18 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YF1tNfQVN8w/TQIty8-e2xI/AAAAAAABsjg/JNf3-a3benw/s1600/1.JPG)

I've skimmed, going through for my own sanity post-by-post anyway

W starts with a vote on the PGO that claimed one post ago.  Pretty sure that's just the newb-ness flying though

There's at least one scum in DiEnd, Kiva-la, and Kick Hopper because of their "random" voting, no joke.  They conformed to a pattern of voting based on who the last poster was after kabuto's precedent, i.e. not random.  Scum vote non-randomly, ergo there is a scum in there.    I know that's feels almost like a Dormio p.2 argument, but It's actually pretty strong.

And kiva-la's vote change in #37 immediately makes me think it's her.

Den-O's #34 is just as bad.  regardless of not reading the rules, it's a lot of words saying absolutely nothing.  also vote where?

OOO's #42 no vote. also bad.

Den-O still no vote in #44.

#46 is a town post by Kick Hopper.

combo of #45 and #47 is scummy by sasasasword.    'I'll vote when I have something to go on'  ---> *town post* ----> 'I'll vote now for unexplained reason"

#49 is a town post by W.

I'm taking #50 as an admission that Sasword's vote in #47 was supposed to only be a RVS/ED1/flavor vote.  the contradiction between 45 and 47 stands.

I don't get OOO's vote's reasoning on kick hopper in #51

#59 ???

#61 is good:posting

in #62 sasword forgets he was accused of a reactionary vote after he was voted beforehand for other reasons and trys to compare apples to oranges.

#64 why no vote? cool, you throw us a question to OOO, but lacks any kind of clarification on
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arly D1 reactions, and reactionary actions seems like town or scum hunting for something to build a case on.

No specifics here of any kind.

Sasword's #66:  You realize you didn't take the time to say this in any coherent fashion beforehand.
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Kick Hopper was looking for a reason to start a lynch mob with nothing to actually go on. Especially since ED1 staying your vote instead of just randomly throwing it about is sensible.
and in #50 it pretty damn sure seems like the 'reactionary vote' in question that you are referring to is your own since you are borrowing Kick hopper's language when he described your subsequent vote on him (the one made in your #47).

Secondly,
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The fact he made such a big deal of a ED1 reactionary vote, especially when one had been made before, gives the impression he's out for blood quickly. Although it's no indication of if he's town or scum, like you yourself said, it's possibly something to note.

You're voting him.  you vote for people you think are scum if you are town.  Is this not the case here?

#68: is there a reason you would expect kick hopper to defend punch hopper?
#69 cool ^

#79 still questions, still no vote, still no real anything

#84 is town posting.

ok...

well I'm glossing over saswords later posts and maybe he might just be super clueless after all. 

Also OOO's explaination for the wierdness is face-palm worthy.

town reads
Kick hopper
Punch hopper
W
Diend

notsureaboutthisguy:
Kabuto

scummy? but newb-ness is so apparent I need to prolly think more about it.
Sasword
OOO

probscum:
Den-O
kiva-la

Pretty sure my vote's in the right place.

Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 14, 2012, 02:54:27 AM
lol counted my reads list counted 9 was like ???

Decade:  forgettable.  I less of a read on him then kabuto.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 03:48:11 AM
It is not! Stop mocking me damnit!
Your charade is pretty obvious. I'm sure everyone else can see through it. I'm obviously me; who are you but a nobody~~~?

Foot in mouth disease could be ascribed to our little Boy Wonder too if you want to put it that way. Not disagreeing that he could be scum, but I see backing down vs staying the course as more of a personality tell given the cases we've seen so far are so weak..so given that OOO is pushing back with something so insane he could just be being blatant instead of subtle.

mrf, that wall post, but I like it now that I've digested it. Skull, you're srsclaiming PGO?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 14, 2012, 04:02:52 AM
(http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/354990-bigthumbnail.jpg)

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Skull, you're srsclaiming PGO?

Yes.  I don't wanna take risks in 11p with this player list. 
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 14, 2012, 04:13:29 AM
Bleh. Busy week. Had time to only skim, not to post ;_; I promise to be more active starting Saturday (if life doesn't start trolling again).

Finding scum based on voting not randomly? Huh. imo that's a pretty shaky way to scumhunt; everyone has their own way of getting by RVS, I wouldn't say that there is anyone here who truly votes randomly. As for the pattern....Well, I have no defense to that :V But why was my vote change incriminating? I do not tolerate sexism! Also, did you actually need to analyze that many posts? I also have a feeling most of your analysis revolves around your suspects and posts you deem good.

Let's see, can't definitely pin anyone down yet. OOO has been pushing Kick Hopper for not defending Punch for a while now, and while this is a pretty shallow reason, I won't put it at anything past possible newbie trying to dig up something in response to people poking him to vote.

Oh yeah Skull you sure you want to put DiEnd on the list of suspected scum for RVS voting patterns if he's your townread? :V

Oh damnit running of time again so gonna close it here. In conclusion, whatever I managed to get into my head didn't help a lot with reads. Agreeing with Skull that W and the Hopper brothers are looking town atm. For his suspects, Den-O hadn't posted a lot I can go on yet. OOO and Sasword's plays could be attributed to newbness. Sasword's excessive self-defense and softbuddying OOO as soon as he showed support look discriminating, but this looks like the average ED1 play of a certain person I know so no definite conclusions yet.

So all in all, ohgawdImscrewingupandamgonnadie;_;
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 04:44:54 AM
##Unvote
##Vote: Kiva-la


welp, gg

How does it feel rolling scum twice in a row?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 14, 2012, 04:57:01 AM
##Unvote
##Vote: Kiva-la


welp, gg

How does it feel rolling scum twice in a row?
I don't suppose you will bother with providing an explanation for a policy lynch against a townie on D1?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 05:01:47 AM
It's not a policy lynch. The game's been going on for 2+ days and all you have is a series of waffles without a clear opinion or vote?

If you're town, you can do better than that. Throw me a bone.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 05:03:22 AM
EBWOP: Rephrasing:  there's not a single attempt at scumhunting in that post. It's all IIOA without any conclusions. Even Sasword did better.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 14, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
@Punch #89: I'm inclined to agree that if the game is going any where, scum are more likely to coast, especially if they haven't picked up a case. Which gut feeling says might be the case (looking specifically at the cases Sasword and OOO). That places more suspicion on poor contributors or active lurkers (Den-O included). There's also the possibility that you're scum trying to forge a direction, but I feel that's unlikely.

I'll post my reads next (and see if I can't put a vote down): Please wait, the Train will be arriving in 60 minutes.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 14, 2012, 09:31:41 AM
Did you know as an object approaches the speed of light, time slows down? That's why 60 minutes seemed to take so long. Please stand back as Den-Liner approaches the station.

Sasword: The game picks up at #46 where Kick makes a policy vote on Sasword for being passive, and Sword treats it like a RVS vote, see #50. In #66 makes case against Kick for policy and possible incitement. Then discards it at #77, and reversion to passive. Others giving the newb pass. Ugh, fine but you're still making some scummy plays.

Kabuto votes Sasword in #75 pertaining to Sword's Kick case of incitement. Then pressures Sword in #80 and #83. Passable, but would like to see more.

Decade (#76) votes Kiva because they'll be back later? Maybe that counts as passiveness. C'mon man, what's on your mind now?

W votes OOO in #49 for surprise! being passive. And 'again' because OOO has a fluffy case. Don't dislike.

OOO has a (#51, #85) RVS/fluffy case on Kick that I don't agree with. People are giving the newb pass here too? It's still bad play.

I'm consistently agreeing with Punch's summaries at #72 and #89 regarding Sword's and OOO's cases. Looks good.

Kick's #46 vote on Sasword starts serious discussion. Rest of posts are mainly pressure. Neutral.

Skull's #91 is good for letting one see where the man stands. The point on a pattern of voting in RVS I disagree with, at least in this crowd, because you all like to joke with each, and I feel such a pattern is not scummy. The points on me for being more passive and not voting are fair. The quote regarding ED1 reactions was topical to Kick, (and W to a degree) whom could be bored/eager town, looking for a possible case, or scum looking for an easy case to make-up.  Also, Skull has solid points on Sasword. Don't dislike.

Kiva's #95 defends self via 'Skull's suspicions are unfounded' (which with RVS scum pattern, I would agree), then gives newb passes to Sasword and OOO.  And now Kick has raised some beef; I'm not conviced of scum!Kiva, I don't have the motive/intent deductions (or intimacy) that Kick has. Not pleased.

DiEnd makes a weird vote on OOO in #59, from his clarification in from #85 it seems like he's talking in place of W? Back to #85: DiEnd accuses OOO of scummy discredit of W and Sasword, which is possible, but OOO is being really fluffy and speaking a little disjointedly seems to be a little more likely. Also is cautious about the stack of critics on SaSword.

@DiEnd: What do you actually think about Sasword?

Your case on OOO guts as scum trying to get a case by casting OOO in a scummy light ("That guy said something confusing, let's mis-represent it, discredit him, and look good in the process.") Also, that warning guts as a scummy distancing move.

##Vote: DiEnd
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 14, 2012, 12:24:06 PM
I come back in, and suddenly there is a slew of activity! Why does all the good stuff happen when I'm doing other stuff?

Regardless, more activity means there may actually be something to go on other than RVS.

I have to say, the points being raised by Skull are reasonable. I especially find this paragraph interesting:

There's at least one scum in DiEnd, Kiva-la, and Kick Hopper because of their "random" voting, no joke.  They conformed to a pattern of voting based on who the last poster was after kabuto's precedent, i.e. not random.  Scum vote non-randomly, ergo there is a scum in there.    I know that's feels almost like a Dormio p.2 argument, but It's actually pretty strong.

Indeed, when before I read it as a reactionary vote, I didn't realize that there was a chain of 'vote the person above you'. However, this could still just be RVS, and not necessarily them being co-ordinated. Maybe it's something to note for the future.

Sasword: So your initial vote was RP, correct? Sure. That said, the current passivity is bad. You're hardly the only topic of conversation so stop being so defensive and take a pro-active look at other people. Right now it looks like you're expecting other people to do your scumhunting for you so you can piggyback onto a case later, which is scummy. Show some initiative, hombre.

Correct Punch. The initial vote was RP. As for passivity? I usually do that, I like to sit back and see things unfold before I jump in swinging my sword. However, by no means do I expect others to do the scumhunting for me, I am waiting for a slip so that I can hunt the scum myself.

As for initiative, you'll get that momentarily.

. :| Then what do you want people to do? If you don't like the current topic, pick a useless lurker that we could be voting instead. Then at least we might get some dialogue started.

The Hopper Brothers speak sense. Both of them.

Anyway, Kiva-la may be reading scummy right now, but we have an even more useless lurker, all he's done is echo what others have said, in one-liners.

Come out of hiding, you beetle!

## Vote Kabuto
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 14, 2012, 12:32:07 PM
The two of us are one Kamen Rider, and of the two, I have returned!

Skull, I see you have role-claimed as a Paranoid Gun Owner! A righteous attempt to save our fellow Kamen Riders a swift death! I commend you! However, if you display tendencies of an impostor, I won't let you make this city cry! We will have to consider not letting you live to LYLO for the sake of the Kamen Riders.

For now, however, I will consider you to be one of my allies of justice!

Punch Hopper's most recent posts came off as slightly arrogant to me, especially in his investigation of Kiva-La. That does not sound like how a Kamen Rider should speak! I will have to investigate this matter more thoroughly! If you are an imposter, your days are numbered!

Den-O's vote on DIEnd seems most interesting indeed! Looking back, it seems quite enforced in suspicion! Good catch, Den-O! However, DIEnd's point on the gangup on Sasword also seems valid!

This clenches it! For now, I will continue to have my vote on OOO. His playing of the newbie card and lack of real content continues to be a disgrace to the name of Kamen Riders! However, that's my hardboiled style to continue to be vigilant, so do not think that I am only watching him! I will make anyone who threatens this city count up his or her sins! I swear it on the name the Kamen Riders!

Transform! CycloneJoker!
The wind shall guide me to find my enemies!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: DiEnd on September 14, 2012, 12:41:43 PM
@Den-O: Question, you claim that I am "distancing", may I ask for you to clarify whom?

DiEnd makes a weird vote on OOO in #59, from his clarification in from #85 it seems like he's talking in place of W? Back to #85: DiEnd accuses OOO of scummy discredit of W and Sasword, which is possible, but OOO is being really fluffy and speaking a little disjointedly seems to be a little more likely. Also is cautious about the stack of critics on SaSword.

@DiEnd: What do you actually think about Sasword?

Your case on OOO guts as scum trying to get a case by casting OOO in a scummy light ("That guy said something confusing, let's mis-represent it, discredit him, and look good in the process.") Also, that warning guts as a scummy distancing move.

##Vote: DiEnd

@Den-O: Question, you claim that I am "distancing", may I ask for you to clarify whom?
Your reasoning is sound.

On the topic of Sasword, I stated before that I seen a similar action taken before, and it took up a chunk of time out of other things.
As a player I suspect he is fairly new, which reinforces what I said before. Which is why I pardoned him for his lack of direction.
I also find that certain posts of his is seemingly vague and open, which does not say much about this convictions.
He backtracks often...and it seems he adopted a passive aggressive style.

@Sasword: That vote is basically a lurker prod correct?

At the rate Kiva is going, she may as well not exist.

On reading W again, everything I seen are one-liner and holy shit he hasn't posted in at least 46 hrs.
Cut by W
@W: You say OOO lacks content, yet there are others that also have little to no content, why per say would you chose OOO over Kiva?
Using a "newbie card" could not be nearly as bad as what Kiva has shown us is it not?
And after a 46 hr long break, I personally expected somewhat more than that. Is that all you have?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 14, 2012, 12:47:06 PM
W-B-X ~W-Boiled Extreme~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLvr_jo-Zk) Votecount

Kabuto: Sasword
Sasword: Kick Hopper, Kabuto
Kick Hopper: Kiva-la, OOO
Punch Hopper:
Den-O: Skull,
Decade:
DiEnd: Den-O, DiEnd (self-hammer)
Kiva-la: Decade, Punch Hopper
W:
Skull:
OOO: W

Not Voting: None

11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch.
Time remaining in the day: 57%
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 14, 2012, 12:51:24 PM
@Sasword: That vote is basically a lurker prod correct?

Part lurker prod part me not being 100% sure on Kiva-la yet. I'd like to see how she responds to the pressure on her now before I make up my mind on her. I'm happy to vote her if my opinion on her doesn't improve, but I also want to encourage activity from Kabuto, and hear what he has to think.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: OOO on September 14, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
Today's day is short - I have been busy for my rainbow pantsu flew off in a weird direction. I'll have to quickly respond to a few things and be back later to do some actual thinking and replying. Not to worry though, it will not be that long.

What does a "popstickle" do? Den-O can be a volunteer.

You get to eat one.


This clenches it! For now, I will continue to have my vote on OOO. His playing of the newbie card and lack of real content continues to be a disgrace to the name of Kamen Riders! However, that's my hardboiled style to continue to be vigilant, so do not think that I am only watching him! I will make anyone who threatens this city count up his or her sins! I swear it on the name the Kamen Riders!

Are you hardboiled? Or are you halfboiled? To be honest I think you're just hoping I'm scum and keeping a vote on me just to be sure. It is okay though - I agree that there's been a lack on content on my part, and I apologize for it.

DiEnd makes a weird vote on OOO in #59, from his clarification in from #85 it seems like he's talking in place of W? Back to #85: DiEnd accuses OOO of scummy discredit of W and Sasword, which is possible, but OOO is being really fluffy and speaking a little disjointedly seems to be a little more likely. Also is cautious about the stack of critics on SaSword.

@DiEnd: What do you actually think about Sasword?

Your case on OOO guts as scum trying to get a case by casting OOO in a scummy light ("That guy said something confusing, let's mis-represent it, discredit him, and look good in the process.") Also, that warning guts as a scummy distancing move.

##Vote: DiEnd

No time for reading, just some skimming. I agree with Den-O is what I should say now. I've always found the DenLiner amazing, and so is this savior of time.

##Unvote
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 14, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
I find it interesting that you agree with what Den-O is saying, meaning you agree that DiEnd is likely scum, yet you do not vote DiEnd.

Sending out two different signals there.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 14, 2012, 02:19:02 PM
Cut by W
@W: You say OOO lacks content, yet there are others that also have little to no content, why per say would you chose OOO over Kiva?
Using a "newbie card" could not be nearly as bad as what Kiva has shown us is it not?
And after a 46 hr long break, I personally expected somewhat more than that. Is that all you have?
You are incorrect,  it has not been 46 hours before me last post before that.

My vote on OOO seems like a better option then Kiva-la. OOO's posts have been coasting and self defense, whereas Kiva-la seems like she has at been trying, albeit she appears to be plagued with indecision. With OOO's last post continuing the trend, this further clinches it, my current vote.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 02:31:07 PM
Punch Hopper's most recent posts came off as slightly arrogant to me, especially in his investigation of Kiva-La. That does not sound like how a Kamen Rider should speak! I will have to investigate this matter more thoroughly! If you are an imposter, your days are numbered!
Ooh, do tell. Are you discrediting my vote on Kiva-La because of my tone? I'd like to hear your opinion of Kiva-La and why you're continuing to vote OOO for "newbie card" and "lack of real content," when is not Kiva-La a better vote on all those counts?

Ah, maybe you want me to expand my case. So I shall. Read Kiva-La's post #95. Point out the scumhunting in that post to me. I'll dissect his post for you since you seem like a lazy twig even though two heads should be twice as hard working as one (a question to you, W, do you get a hydra QT?)

Paragraph one: apologizing. Paragraph two: Some theory talk plus noncommittal comments on Skull's methodology. Paragraph three: OOO could be a newbie (no opinion on alignment). Paragraph four: fluff if you actually read what Kiva-la is referring to in context. It's a fluff question Kiva-la is asking to make himself to look busy. Paragraph five: The meatiest part of his post, where he agrees with Skull on a few townreads, then gives null reads on a few of Skull's suspects. For one, where are the scumreads? And then, why is everything pegged to Skull's reads when it looks like he's questioning Skull's motives in paragraph two. Even without that, why is his game analysis revolving around Skull anyway? My impression is that Kiva-La can't be bothered to read the game and he just picked out the most recent post to respond to, deciding to ignore the rest of the game. Paragraph six isn't even a paragraph. Here's the newbie card you were looking for, W.

So where's the scumhunting or the townie thought processes? But Punch Hopper, you say, townies can find it hard to gather scumreads too! Very true indeed, but here there's no attempt to gauge a players posts to determine their alignment; he just puts out a bunch of general statements on play that don't reveal anything whatsoever so I don't think he's actually read the thread (this is reinforced by the fact that it's pretty clear he's working off the template of Skull's reads and not the actual game). I don't see any evidence that he's actually trying to scumhunt; imo it's more believable that he's scum who just doesn't know how to fake it a la last game.

And Kiva-La is still RVS voting Kick Hopper? Yeah, this guy really doesn't care about his vote, does he?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
My vote on OOO seems like a better option then Kiva-la. OOO's posts have been coasting and self defense, whereas Kiva-la seems like she has at been trying, albeit she appears to be plagued with indecision. With OOO's last post continuing the trend, this further clinches it, my current vote.[/color]

What about Kiva-la's post doesn't read as coasting and self-defense? How is he trying and how is he more of less plagued with indecision than OOO? Serious question.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 14, 2012, 02:33:54 PM
Bleh. Busy week. Had time to only skim, not to post ;_; I promise to be more active starting Saturday (if life doesn't start trolling again).

Finding scum based on voting not randomly? Huh. imo that's a pretty shaky way to scumhunt; everyone has their own way of getting by RVS, I wouldn't say that there is anyone here who truly votes randomly. As for the pattern....Well, I have no defense to that :V But why was my vote change incriminating? I do not tolerate sexism! Also, did you actually need to analyze that many posts? I also have a feeling most of your analysis revolves around your suspects and posts you deem good.

Let's see, can't definitely pin anyone down yet. OOO has been pushing Kick Hopper for not defending Punch for a while now, and while this is a pretty shallow reason, I won't put it at anything past possible newbie trying to dig up something in response to people poking him to vote.

Oh yeah Skull you sure you want to put DiEnd on the list of suspected scum for RVS voting patterns if he's your townread? :V

Oh damnit running of time again so gonna close it here. In conclusion, whatever I managed to get into my head didn't help a lot with reads. Agreeing with Skull that W and the Hopper brothers are looking town atm. For his suspects, Den-O hadn't posted a lot I can go on yet. OOO and Sasword's plays could be attributed to newbness. Sasword's excessive self-defense and softbuddying OOO as soon as he showed support look discriminating, but this looks like the average ED1 play of a certain person I know so no definite conclusions yet.

So all in all, ohgawdImscrewingupandamgonnadie;_;

For the lazy, this is the post I'm referring to two posts up. W, have you read this post. This is...trying?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 14, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
I'm not going to defend Kiva-La, because she isn't hardboiled enough to deserve it from me, but I will still reaffirm the opinion that I think OOO is coasting harder then Kiva-La is in any event, and my Rider's Intuition says he is scum.

However, I will say this: Kiva-La at the very least has reads. OOO does not.

That's my hardboiled style.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 14, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
>Asks Sasword to have some kind of suspicion on someone of any form
>Is answered with "I'm the only wagon, I don't want to vote myself"

:mfw:

He has a vote now, regardless. Given that I've not been present too often so far, there's not much I can say in response to the lurker accusation, apart from confusion at the suggestion that my reasons for voting him were echoes of past sentiments.  But also... it's mostly just a lurker prod, he's admitted himself. Vote stays.

As for others. Kiva-la is tripping over her own waffles and needs to get a real opinion out, so I couldn't say I disagree with the wagon on her. It does look like... "effort", so I'm not sold, but if she's town she should be able to actually get somewhere with that effort at some point in the near future. OOO similarly has said a bunch of words, but not actually done anything worth noting; but according to his last post, he'll be on the ball shortly, so we can see if he delivers or not.

Skull, W, Punch, and Den-O all look quite satisfactory.

Quote
I have been busy for my rainbow pantsu flew off in a weird direction
...do we really need to know about this, OOO? Grandmother always said one should keep talk about what happened to their undergarments to themselves.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 14, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
Still not particually happy about your lack of contribution, even after that post, Kabuto. Still, at least it is more than a single line post this time. Seeing as my vote was to spur you into doing something more, and you have improved slightly, I'll lift it now.

Also, I think everyone's pointed out enough about why a Kiva-la vote is a good one now. She's not really contributed, still has her RVS, and seems to waffle on about... nothing much when she does post.

Then there's what Skull pointed out about the RVS pattern which hints at co-ordination.

## Unvote
## Vote Kiva-la
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 14, 2012, 11:38:39 PM
Okay, Kiva-la is now back from life, and is fairly irritated. I will now attempt to gorge you all with as many posts as I can Kamenly produce. To hell with counterproductive huge text walls.

Sasword, in #102 you expressed disagreement on Skull claiming the "vote the person above you" pattern was scum co-ordination, why does it suddenly make sense to you now? And why do you think scum would prefer to waffle on nothing instead of waffling on something to appear contributory?
Also, ~~Totally Relevant~~
Quote from: This, Like, Totally Happened In Scum QT, Gentlemen
Scum#1: Hey ladies, I've got a great idea!
Scum#1: Let's totally make a RVS voting pattern where we vote the person who voted last, then add ??? for HUGE PROFITZ!
Kiva-la: THAT IS A HELLA SWEET IDEA
Sasword's sheepiness levels just shot the ceiling so suddenly and so fast I can't really comprehend the reason behind it. For now I'll ##Vote Sasword.

Kabuto, question of interest, why do you think it's better to vote Sasword over me? Sasword has effort too, and albeit I'm tripping over myself you're still voting him over an admitted lurker prod vote. Why?
Punch, is waffling and coasting D1 really that uncommon and discriminating around this city? I'd prefer you not gorging people with anti-me propaganda until everyone chokes.

Stay on your toes, gentlemen, your engorgement is not yet over.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 14, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
I just remembered, Decade.....Where the heck are you? I see you were around about 12 hours ago, get back and post something D:
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 15, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
Sasword, in #102 you expressed disagreement on Skull claiming the "vote the person above you" pattern was scum co-ordination, why does it suddenly make sense to you now? And why do you think scum would prefer to waffle on nothing instead of waffling on something to appear contributory?
Also, ~~Totally Relevant~~Sasword's sheepiness levels just shot the ceiling so suddenly and so fast I can't really comprehend the reason behind it. For now I'll ##Vote Sasword.

Indeed, when before I read it as a reactionary vote, I didn't realize that there was a chain of 'vote the person above you'. However, this could still just be RVS, and not necessarily them being co-ordinated. Maybe it's something to note for the future.

Now tell me, Kiva-la, where did I say I did not agree with Skull?

Never, is the answer to this.

In addittion, before I changed my vote from Kabuto to you, I did say I was already happy to vote for you. I just wanted to prod activity out of Kabuto first:

Part lurker prod part me not being 100% sure on Kiva-la yet. I'd like to see how she responds to the pressure on her now before I make up my mind on her. I'm happy to vote her if my opinion on her doesn't improve, but I also want to encourage activity from Kabuto, and hear what he has to think.

Now then, you have switched your vote to me, possibly in an attempt to capitalize on the previous wagon on me, for reasons which are clearly shown as false. You accuse me of not supporting Skull when I never said I did not support Skull's point of view.

Suddenly because I vote the most scummy person, and don't want to re-iterate every single point already made, better than I could get them across, I'm a sheep?

This reaction seals the deal. Clearly false accusations and then jumping on an old wagon hoping to get it moving again.

Also:

I just remembered, Decade.....Where the heck are you? I see you were around about 12 hours ago, get back and post something D:

This almost looks like a cry for help to me. 12 hours isn't that long when you factor in sleeping time, and real-life commitments.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 15, 2012, 12:02:00 AM
Also just adding that you are now waffling on about something to appear contributory when it's clearly false when you analyse the post.

By your own admission, that is a scum move. Another large scumtell is lurking, or 'active lurking' which is waffling on about nothing of any use, which you have done plenty of too.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 15, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Kick Hopper was looking for a reason to start a lynch mob with nothing to actually go on. Especially since ED1 staying your vote instead of just randomly throwing it about is sensible.

The fact he made such a big deal of a ED1 reactionary vote, especially when one had been made before, gives the impression he's out for blood quickly. Although it's no indication of if he's town or scum, like you yourself said, it's possibly something to note.
Actually tried to look for the lynch mob attempt Sasword was talking about, came up blank except if he counted the post where Kick Hopper noted his reactionary vote and threw in some flavor. Is there a term for overreacting to someone pointing out your reactionary vote?

-cut while rereading-
Haha, I always used uncertain modifiers in my sentences when I'm disagreeing with people who appear to know most of what they're talking about. SORRY if that doesn't apply to you, Sasword.
Hmm, I didn't take account your prior Kabuto vote though. Point noted.
Also, just because my reasons seem "false" to you doesn't mean they are to everyone.
Lastly, I would like to direct your attention to the timestamp on Decade's latest post. Add that to the fact he got on at some point between that and now but didn't do anything. Also it's ironic to see "real-life commitment" being brought against something I said despite people just outright skipping over me when I cite those earlier -coughPunchpossiblerepeatedoffensecough-
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 15, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Actually tried to look for the lynch mob attempt Sasword was talking about, came up blank except if he counted the post where Kick Hopper noted his reactionary vote and threw in some flavor. Is there a term for overreacting to someone pointing out your reactionary vote?

Making such a point of reactionary votes ED1. To me it seemed like he was saying 'Reactionary vote he's scum get him!' since he was making a deal of it. It may not seem so to you.

Also, just because my reasons seem "false" to you doesn't mean they are to everyone.

Yes, but of course I will point out what I view as false accusations.

Hmm, I didn't take account your prior Kabuto vote though. Point noted.

Considering I was explicitly asked, and responded, about the Kabuto Vote, as well as actually voting for him, I find it weird you didn't seem aware of it [Seeing as that's the only reason you wouldn't have taken someone's vote into account when accusing them of sheeping, unless you are openly ignoring it]

Lastly, I would like to direct your attention to the timestamp on Decade's latest post. Add that to the fact he got on at some point between that and now but didn't do anything. Also it's ironic to see "real-life commitment" being brought against something I said despite people just outright skipping over me when I cite those earlier -coughPunchpossiblerepeatedoffensecough-

I have not looked at last login dates.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 15, 2012, 12:49:56 AM
Ye gods. People should drop the RVS pattern point right now because arguing over it is going to be drivel and unreadable. Skull, this is your fault for bringing up a false premise like that.

I'm not going to defend Kiva-La, because she isn't hardboiled enough to deserve it from me, but I will still reaffirm the opinion that I think OOO is coasting harder then Kiva-La is in any event, and my Rider's Intuition says he is scum.

However, I will say this: Kiva-La at the very least has reads. OOO does not.
I want you to point out the reads you were talking about when you made this post, because I'm pretty sure I made a post dissecting how Kiva-La specifically didn't have any reads. OOO not having many reads is a valid point, but he did give reasoning for a vote on Kick Hopper despite horribly mangled reasoning so I don't know how you arrived at that last statement. (I realize Kiva-La has made a few posts after this, but I want to know about W's opinion from this point in time).

Also, I think everyone's pointed out enough about why a Kiva-la vote is a good one now. She's not really contributed, still has her RVS, and seems to waffle on about... nothing much when she does post.
Sasword, who is everyone, and why did you want to wait for them to move to a Kiva-la vote? Also, who are your other suspects?

Kiva-La: Let me get this straight; you're voting Sasword for sheepiness? Just above, you gave this noncommittal blurb about him:
OOO and Sasword's plays could be attributed to newbness. Sasword's excessive self-defense and softbuddying OOO as soon as he showed support look discriminating, but this looks like the average ED1 play of a certain person I know so no definite conclusions yet.
So if you were brushing him off for newbness then, what changed with his vote now? How is he less of a newb, in your words?

Punch, is waffling and coasting D1 really that uncommon and discriminating around this city? I'd prefer you not gorging people with anti-me propaganda until everyone chokes.
Coasting is bad so you shouldn't even be trying to cast that in a good light. Waffling can come from both town and scum, but I've pointed out that in your entire post up there, you failed to provide a single concrete opinion (and the weak opinions that you did produce are suspiciously similar to those in the post immediately preceding you [I'm talking about Skull's post and if anyone else doesn't see it I can highlight it in the thread manually]). I'm voting you for the lack of original thought and active scumhunting that is more likely to come from scum, especially given your past play as both alignments.

Lastly, I would like to direct your attention to the timestamp on Decade's latest post. Add that to the fact he got on at some point between that and now but didn't do anything. Also it's ironic to see "real-life commitment" being brought against something I said despite people just outright skipping over me when I cite those earlier -coughPunchpossiblerepeatedoffensecough-
No one is voting you for "real life commitment" so this is just a strawman. Making real life excuses is never going to make you look more town if that's what you're complaining about. If you want to run Decade up for a lurker lynch D1, go right ahead, but you better give reasoning for why that's a better option than everyone else.

Here, Kiva-La: I want your opinions on W and Kabuto, specifically.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 15, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Leggy, I know you're around; help me out here.

Will it help if I told you I think our resident swordguy is our caped crusader from the last game?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 15, 2012, 01:00:05 AM
Quote
you're still voting him over an admitted lurker prod vote
I was voting him quite awhile before that over other things. The lurker prod isn't something I'd jump on him for by itself, but it's the latest in a line of questionable actions. Overall, I haven't seen Sasword do a single thing I could see as looking good.

Thirding that the RVS pattern vote theory is worthless. Scum don't do a random vote in Random Vote Stage, so someone who's basing theirs off anything is  more likely to be scum? Uh.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 15, 2012, 01:22:48 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Skull Form!
##Vote: Sasword


Fuck my computer just froze and BSoD'd getting this out and making another post before it happens again.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 15, 2012, 01:44:29 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Sasword Rider Form!
##Vote Sasword


Town Reads: W and Punch
I would normally not do this but people would just yell at me for not having reads so w/e

Sasword: Up until this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg885133.html#msg885133), only pushes a Kick Hopper post and commenting on things going around without making opinions on anything. Of importance is this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg884857.html#msg884857), where it looks like he sets up a point to jump on Kick Hopper later should a wagon form. Then Sasword gives up on a Kick vote despite saying a reason to vote him. Up to this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg885746.html#msg885746), Sasword still hasn't tried to push a scum, and lacks scum hunting altogether. This post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg885719.html#msg885719) is the most interesting, as he finally votes after an empty unvote. First off, he makes a note of the "pattern", which is absolutely nonsense and should not be even remotely considered. It easily reeks of setting up lynches. Claims he won't wait for others to do scumhunting, but just calls Kiva scummy and leaves it at that. And the vote amounts to nothing but lurker prod. And then the Kiva vote (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg885852.html#msg885852) which cites nothing but reasons from other people.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 15, 2012, 02:01:49 AM
Kabuto you still haven't said why you prefer a Sasword vote over me. I find this illogical especially considering you've been voting him mainly for his prior lack of meaningful votes, all the while my non-RVS voting is near non-existent and an admittedly reasonable bandwagon against me has popped up. What do you think of my bandwagon? (except for the voting pattern thing ofc)
 
Hmm. Sasword's responses to me are satisfactory, and I got kind of carried away back there, so I'll call off my vote against him for now. ##Unvote

@W: At the point of that initial post, I chalked his behaviours to newbness, yes. But then some misunderstandings (and frustrations) on my part led to me believing that Sasword decided to just start shifting gears from slight nodding to full-on agreement to the bandwagon against me despite me not doing anything to warrant additional suspicion between that time, so I thought he was scummy. Also I never said I was being voted for "real-life commitment", I pointed out how it just got simply shoved aside when I brought it up in defense of my activity up to that point and the quality of that post (yes I knew it was bad).

Okay, just for the record, @everyone, Adorable Mafia me was me not really knowing how to do what I was supposed to do in a MotK mafia context and deciding to just half-sideline the whole thing until near the end. I'm not doing that any more. So stop assuming that was how I act as town in mafia >:[

Kabuto and W? Lemme see...
Kabuto has been bringing up valid points, however most of those were pretty obvious things to come up with (oh damnit me look at myself before posting). He also just seemed to be softtunneling Sasword for some reason. Currently unsure as to alignment. Would like to hear more from him about people that are not Sasword.

W is similiar actually, but to a lesser extent. Now that I look at him seriously, he had some amount of flavorful fluff. His points haven't been that good either (e.g. calling out OOO for lack of content and "playing the newb card", while there were others who outright lurked). At least he demonstrates that he is following the posts. I think he is leaning town for now.

Think I'll try rereading Den-O and DiEnd next, then that'd be it for the night.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 15, 2012, 03:10:13 AM
Hmm...Den-O doesn't have a lot to go by. His main beef is post #101, and most of it was a summary of D1's highlights with some opinion thrown in here and there, which is not a whole lot to go by.
Might be scum trying to make his post appear to have more content, might be his own way of voicing opinions on things. Null read for now.

For DiEnd, the one thing that catches my attention is the OOO vote. If I read correctly the only reasons he gave were OOO's seemingly hostility against others, him trying to discredit Sasword, and the way he enforced suspicion on W with his sarcastic posts. The second might be somewhat true, but imo they're not very concrete reasons, it might just be the way OOO wants to post for the duration of this game. Gonna look more closely at DiEnd vs OOO interactions and would like DiEnd to clearly say why he finds OOO scummy above everyone else.

;_; delays
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 15, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
@DiEnd and Kiva-La: Reread your #104 and #120 respectively (specifically the lower portion) then read game rule #9. You guys self-voted (Kiva has since unknowingly corrected).

@OOO: How does one eat a "popstickle"?

@DiEnd: Not trying to discredit the warning, as it is sound advice. But it guts as scummy because it seems like you're distancing yourself from the reactions to Sasword, and sets up a blameless escape if things do get out of hand. Your #104 also has a fair summary of Sasword's actions, but can I get a read on him from you?

@Decade: How much of what you're accusing Sasword would you expect from an inexperienced player? Some of those points are high bench marks. Though, I think I agree with most of it.

Also, Sasword putting Kiva on the defensive was kinda satisfying. Need to digest that some more though.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 15, 2012, 05:36:11 AM
I have been aroundish but extremely busy, apologies. Also sleeping for > 13 hours. Also, and I acknowledge this is a scummy thing for me to say, but reading this game gives me a nap headache because it's still a hell. I'm having an easier time finding people I don't want to lynch and people I just don't like then anyone interesting enough to be scum.

Townie Kamen Superfriends: Skull, Punchy, W, Den-O
Weak Kamen Wormfood: Sasword, Kiva-la

Punchy I don't see anyone wearing a cape from last game. If you really think you have a good reason to believe he's innocent I supose I can't convince you otherwise, and he is attracting quite a pile-on. I think Kiva has the same newbie dripping off of him.

Kiva, no one here knows who you are, or did know anyways. >_> Nevermind Punchy definitely knew who you were.

NO MORE EMPTY UNVOTES. OH MY GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE KILLING ME. YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE IT FLAT LIKE THAT GOD I AM SNORING ALREADY.

I'm gonna go for a third option. Someone that I just noticed drive by in his little scooter, drop off a vote and leave on the popular dood.

##Vote: Decade

Cuts: KIVA-LA YOU PINK SEAFOOD SOUP VOTE OR I WILL KICK YOU SO HARD YOU SEE KABUTO
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 15, 2012, 05:54:10 AM
OKAY FIEN

##Vote Kabuto
> Phone post at 11 PM just for you, babe

Also, review rule 9. Pretty sure you just self-voted.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 15, 2012, 01:07:27 PM
Journey through the Decade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kono82Z7K8) Votecount

Kabuto: Kiva-la
Sasword: Kabuto, Decade
Kick Hopper: Kick Hopper (self hammer)
Punch Hopper:
Den-O: Skull,
Decade:
DiEnd: Den-O, DiEnd (self-hammer)
Kiva-la: Punch Hopper, Sasword
W:
Skull:
OOO: W

Not Voting: OOO

11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch.
Time remaining in the day: 46%
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 15, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
Sasword, who is everyone, and why did you want to wait for them to move to a Kiva-la vote? Also, who are your other suspects?

Everyone is a slight exaggeration, but the following have voted Kiva-la:

Myself
You
[Decade - Removed, was RVS time]

Not that many, but then we see who has voiced doubts over Kiva-la:

Skull
Den-O

That is 5 out of 11. Admittedly hardly everyone, but almost a majority.


Now then: *Knucklecrack*

---

I draw your attention back to this to start with:

I just remembered, Decade.....Where the heck are you? I see you were around about 12 hours ago, get back and post something D:

Also known as HELP ME DECADE!

Well lo and behold, Decade's 126 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg886109.html#msg886109)

What is so bad about this?

1: He is only saying what others have before, and points I have already adressed. I encourage him to read my posts to find my reasons for the points he has risen.
2: He conviently IGNORES everything I do after the Kiva vote, and states I gave nothing but reasons from other people.

Which I wholeheartedly agree with. Because there was not much else to add, and it's a waste of my time, your time, and everyone else's time if I repost the reasons, in a worse written way then what was already put across.

He also conviently ignores my #118 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg886046.html#msg886046), #119 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg886047.html#msg886047), and #121 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg886058.html#msg886058), where I am happily pointing out massive flaws and scumtells in Kiva-la, when she is under pressure.

When did I mention Kiva-La under pressure again? Oh yes; #106 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,13385.msg885732.html#msg885732), where I clearly state Kiva-la under pressure would make up my mind. And under pressure, what does she do? Attempts to start my wagon moving again with false reasons, while shouting HELP ME DECADE!

Decade, you have tried to come to the rescue of Kiva-La by pushing that old wagon she was tying to push, using reasoning that has already been addressed by me, while openly ignoring my bashing of Kiva-la's logic. I am now almost convinced that if Kiva-la is scum, you are as well.

Also; Kiva-la this does not help you one bit:

OKAY FIEN

##Vote Kabuto
> Phone post at 11 PM just for you, babe

Also, review rule 9. Pretty sure you just self-voted.

At least you realize the wagon on me is going nowhere, so you jump on a lurker.

Also you completely ignored Den-O's request for a read on me.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Sasword on September 15, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
Mouse derp means that last post should read like this:

1: He is only saying what others have before, and points I have already adressed. I encourage him to read my posts to find my reasons for the points he has risen.

Which I wholeheartedly agree with. Because there was not much else to add, and it's a waste of my time, your time, and everyone else's time if I repost the reasons, in a worse written way then what was already put across.

2: He conviently IGNORES everything I do after the Kiva vote, and states I gave nothing but reasons from other people.


Also, it seems too convient that he ignores my clear scumhunting on Kiva-la, pressing her on points, when saying I have no reads/am not contbuteing/have no reasons, shortly after Kiva-la basically asked him to defend her.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 15, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
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HELP ME DECADE!
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you have tried to come to the rescue of Kiva-la
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Kiva-la basically asked him to defend her
......
:facepalm:

Can you not twist my calling a lurker out to post into something horribly twisted? Thanks.
Sure, Decade might have helped me some in the past, but to assume me simply calling him out for not posting for quite a long period of time scum calling for help is just preposterous. Just because it's convenient for you think that is true doesn't mean it's true. And it seems you're intending to go pretty far with just that <_< Wait for AFTER my flip, will ya? Also, it totally makes sense that when I'm in trouble I should call my scumbuddy to vote the person whose wagon I'm on using more or less the same reasons I used so that I can hop off and go somewhere else, amirite?

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Also; Kiva-la this does not help you one bit:
Can't deny that though. I've nearly exhausted what little capabilities I have on the posts up to now; I'll have to wait for more posts to be able to find a more concrete reason to vote anyone at all.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: DiEnd on September 15, 2012, 03:20:38 PM
@DiEnd and Kiva-La: Reread your #104 and #120 respectively (specifically the lower portion) then read game rule #9. You guys self-voted (Kiva has since unknowingly corrected).

@DiEnd: Not trying to discredit the warning, as it is sound advice. But it guts as scummy because it seems like you're distancing yourself from the reactions to Sasword, and sets up a blameless escape if things do get out of hand. Your #104 also has a fair summary of Sasword's actions, but can I get a read on him from you?

Also, Sasword putting Kiva on the defensive was kinda satisfying. Need to digest that some more though.
1) Well damn, I guess I should read rules more often, thanks for the notice.
2) Fair enough.
3) I remember calling Sasword neutral in that post somewhere, apparently I did not. At the time I made that post I had Sasword as solid neutral. His later posts has me regard him as quite town.
There are points he had that I feel are questionable, such as the "call for help" by kiva to decade since it dwells into WIFOM territory. But a majority of his points are accurate.

@On the topic of Kiva-la, as I stated earlier, she basically voted Kabuto because she wanted to appease to Kick Hopper.
OKAY FIEN

##Vote Kabuto
> Phone post at 11 PM just for you, babe
This is negative points for her.She is trying to seduce him!

Another point would be an extreme AtE, and usage of meta in post
Okay, just for the record, @everyone, Adorable Mafia me was me not really knowing how to do what I was supposed to do in a MotK mafia context and deciding to just half-sideline the whole thing until near the end. I'm not doing that any more. So stop assuming that was how I act as town in mafia >:[
Negative points.
##Final Attack Ride: Kiva
##Vote Kiva


@OOO: Feels to be coasting now, but is still less of a priority then Kiva-la.

@W: Where is your double? So far I've only seen logic from your side, and not your significant other. Is there a reason for it? You are Two in One, and yet only One of Two posts?

Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 15, 2012, 03:33:47 PM
Why am I voting myself? This is uncalled for.

Sasword you are now drafted into Shadow. You will aim your wormy sword at Decade with me. Yes.
##Unvote
##Vote: Decade
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 15, 2012, 04:34:29 PM
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I want you to point out the reads you were talking about when you made this post, because I'm pretty sure I made a post dissecting how Kiva-La specifically didn't have any reads. OOO not having many reads is a valid point, but he did give reasoning for a vote on Kick Hopper despite horribly mangled reasoning so I don't know how you arrived at that last statement. (I realize Kiva-La has made a few posts after this, but I want to know about W's opinion from this point in time)
Kiva-La's paragraph on what she considered right and wrong about Skull's posts look quite a lot like reads to me. While she is basing them off Skull's analysis, they did contain original thought from her.  This clinches it, those are most definitely reads, if only technically.

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Agreeing with Skull that W and the Hopper brothers are looking town atm. For his suspects, Den-O hadn't posted a lot I can go on yet. OOO and Sasword's plays could be attributed to newbness. Sasword's excessive self-defense and softbuddying OOO as soon as he showed support look discriminating, but this looks like the average ED1 play of a certain person I know so no definite conclusions yet.
The paragraph in question shows effort despite apparent lack of time to post.

OOO on the other hand, made a similar sentiment about Den-O, but contained no original thought, with OOO only making the broad statement "he agreed with Den-O". Those would not be considered to be reads by me. I won't let you make this city cry!

The two of us are one Kamen Rider, and of the two, I continue to read!

Transform! LunaJoker!
The moon's light will give me the vision I need to see my enemies!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 15, 2012, 05:08:51 PM
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@W: Where is your double? So far I've only seen logic from your side, and not your significant other. Is there a reason for it? You are Two in One, and yet only One of Two posts?
We have a reason, but I see no need to give said reason out.

I have finished reading the thread and it has reaffirmed suspicion on Kiva La and Decade, although it bothers me that OOO has not posted in quite awhile . I have noticed people are ignoring OOO now that he lurks and does not post, which is a very bad sign.

However, it seems like an OOO wagon is likely not to be destined for today, so it seems my vote will have to go elsewhere shortly. I have not completely digested recent events, so I will wait a bit longer for now.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kabuto on September 15, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
Kabuto you still haven't said why you prefer a Sasword vote over me. I find this illogical especially considering you've been voting him mainly for his prior lack of meaningful votes, all the while my non-RVS voting is near non-existent and an admittedly reasonable bandwagon against me has popped up. What do you think of my bandwagon? (except for the voting pattern thing ofc)
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He also just seemed to be softtunneling Sasword for some reason. Currently unsure as to alignment. Would like to hear more from him about people that are not Sasword.
...what?

I just told you, you're comparing a single aspect of yourself to a single aspect of my Sasword case and then saying "They're the same, why aren't you voting me?". It makes no logical sense, at all. You and Sasword were not much alike, no matter how much you might think that's true. It almost feels like after I responded that there was more to my Sasword vote then that, you decided to pretend my other posts didn't exist.

I have ALSO already commented on the wagon on you, which only makes me feel more like you aren't reading my posts, despite there not even being a whole lot you'd have to read.

Tunneling? I've talked about everyone except for Decade (He barely even exists, and at this point it's getting into scummy as hell hit-and-run voting, would vote), DiEnd (Null read), and Kick Hopper (See previous opinion)

As for an updated opinion on yourself, I have no idea what to make of your vote on me, considering that the reasons you seem to be voting me are all false. Actually, upon looking at your latest posts again, you even went from "Unsure of alignment" to voting me with no elaboration, which seems rather odd. The only thing I can think about your play so far is "What the hell are you doing?"

Sasword's latest post is even more unbased in the realm of reality. He tacks on the RVS vote coordination reason when he hops on the wagon, despite how utterly unbelievable of a reason it is, and the HELP ME DECADE accusation is nothing short of absolutely absurd, not to mention working off a assumption of a Decade/Kiva-La scumteam when we're not even done with D1 yet.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Pesco on September 15, 2012, 11:13:28 PM
Anything Goes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA4bHJKnAIw) Votecount

Kabuto: Kiva-la
Sasword: Kabuto, Decade
Kick Hopper:
Punch Hopper:
Den-O: Skull,
Decade: Kick Hopper
DiEnd: Den-O,
Kiva-la: Punch Hopper, Sasword, DiEnd
W:
Skull:
OOO: W

Not Voting: OOO

11 alive, 6 votes for a lynch.
Time remaining in the day: 39%
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Den-O on September 16, 2012, 12:36:17 AM
DiEnd's been making enough sense that I can't justify a gut vote on him over others anymore. (Though, I don't quite agree with his meta point against Kiva.)

I don't agree with Sasword's latest spiel about Kiva-la's calling Decade for help, as that wasn't the way I parsed those events.  Plus, I don't even think daft scum would make the connection Sasword is accusing Kiva-la/Decade of making.  His points before that, I agreed with however.

I am a little anxious of the way OOO coupled onto the DenLiner earlier, and since has really posted (or voted). (I wouldn't really think scum would ask for volunteers, but that's likely WIFOM.)

I'm also agreeing with Kabuto's latest post, both on the points against Kiva and Sasword.
I'm going sheep caboose a bit for now, because I feel Kiva is the most egregious.
##Vote: Kiva-La
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 16, 2012, 01:46:23 AM
This is dumb why has kiva not been lynched yet?

The incredibly huge amount of waffles ive just eaten, using of self meta as some kind of town tell for himself, and not even lack of serious vote which he commits to(i do doubt this kabuto vote)

##Vote: Kiva-la
going to assume we have 2-3 vote counts lefts
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 16, 2012, 03:05:49 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Skull Form!
##Vote: Kiva-la


I was going to post last night to follow up on everything else, but then I got hit with Session time out errors and went to sleep in rage. Currently don't think Kiva-la will flip scum, but this must be done. HAMMER.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 16, 2012, 03:14:23 AM
Pah.
How can I really do anything else if all you guys start to do is nodding at my bandwagon and not saying much else ;_;

Guys look at DiEnd plzplzplz

Decade......YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. Here let me help. ##Sonic Stab Kiva-la
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Decade on September 16, 2012, 03:18:24 AM
##Attack Form Ride: Skull Form!
##Vote: Sasword


Whoa whoa whoa. What the fuck man?! I never meant to vote you in the first place!!!!!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 16, 2012, 03:20:48 AM
...........

GUYS IF I ROLL SCUM DECADE'S MAFIA :3 :3 :3
No seriously stop buddying me so hard lol welp
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kiva-la on September 16, 2012, 03:21:03 AM
EBWOP
**flip
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 16, 2012, 05:31:13 AM
Panicked because I fell asleep while making a post, then I forgot this game doesn't have prods, then is that apparently a self-hammer by Kiva-La? Coolbeans.

Decade, what the hell were you trying to do there?
Repeating my earlier question: W, do you have a quicktopic with your hydra buddy? This is important because twice the heads should mean twice the content but I'm not seeing that.

Assuming Kiva-La flips scum, top suspects for buddies are...W (gut and weird switch) and Kabuto (dat distancing)? I dunno. Game's so lurky I could see a lot of potential buddies; that's the gut pairing I came up with earlier so it's the people I asked Kiva-La to give reads on.

I think DiEnd is town; I'm reading town on Sasword and DiEnd's early defense is a towntell if that read is right. I have a special secret tell on Leggy; don't lynch her. Skull made a good post but one post per day isn't enough; he needs to get his ass in this game because he's competent enough to do that as either alignment. Den-O is a weird one but leaning town on him. Don't have a read either way on W but I definitely don't trust him since if Kiva-La flips scum his focus today was mainly on OOO.

Lynch pool for tomorrow should probably be between Kabuto (probably the closest thing to a Kiva buddy from their posts re: each other), Decade (:wtf:, I don't even know about this slot), and OOO (terrible content; note: not scum together with W).
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Punch Hopper on September 16, 2012, 05:40:40 AM
If I were making a definite choice between those three it'd definitely be Kabuto. Kiva-La likes to vote his buddies for weird reasons over people he's purportedly had more reason to vote based on in-thread suspicion (Nue voting Tojiko) so I wouldn't be surprised if that was happening. Either way, take the information as it comes; there'll obviously be more to work with tomorrow.

If I die tonight, I want to Leggy to pick up his game. Do it for me, Aniki!
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Kick Hopper on September 16, 2012, 07:19:20 AM
I dunno, that's twice in a row. I might just give my Zecter to someone that can actually read people.  :fail:
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: Skull on September 16, 2012, 08:05:35 AM
I was close to replacing for pretty selfish reasons, but I think I'll hang in here. 

So I had about the same exact reaction as P-Hopper to kiverla's content post.  All my pity.

apparently there has been a bunch of things resembling wall posts + a hammer.

of things I did read, Den-O might well be town.  I just am not sure why he didn't say :stuff: earlier.

Dieing N1 is the best birthday present yo.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Day 1)
Post by: W on September 16, 2012, 08:38:59 AM
Repeating my earlier question: W, do you have a quicktopic with your hydra buddy? This is important because twice the heads should mean twice the content but I'm not seeing that.
The two of us are one Kamen Rider. That's all you need to know.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 09:05:34 AM
The votes don't matter. The lynch flip doesn't matter. Riders would win by default due to the Foundation-aligned Riders dying by modkill but I consider this game ruined.

Kabuto was modkilled for discussing the game with non-playing people.

Decade was modkilled for discussing the game with non-playing people.

W (right half) was modkilled for discussing the game with non-playing people.

Activity lacking? Well with this much talking about the game outside of it, it's certainly no wonder why. I wouldn't doubt there are more players guilty of this but have the good sense to not leave evidence of doing so.

Moral of the story: Follow the given instructions. Be it in the form of rules or information in your role PM. Such details are included by the mod because they are considered important to the game that's being run.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 16, 2012, 09:09:44 AM
bg no re.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Kabuto on September 16, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
I thought saying "Which player do you think I am?" to a friend of mine who is confirmed to not be in the game, and then purposely ending the conversation without responding further to prevent any hinting at who I was, doesn't even count as discussing the game, because... there's really no game discussion in that :/

I mean, if I knew that'd be frowned upon, I wouldn't have done that. It was so innocent and entirely harmless, it didn't even occur to me it could be something I shouldn't do.

I was Kabuto, in any case.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Serela on September 16, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
Er* I was Kabuto >_>; Wrong account.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on September 16, 2012, 09:22:35 AM
the guy posting from kabuto's account is kabuto? well fuck my mind is blown

in any case this was the game with such fine rules as "if you claim to be cut you self-vote" so it's hard to really regret anything
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: ActionDan on September 16, 2012, 09:25:34 AM
I was skull.

I am sure he was the coolest.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Shadoweh on September 16, 2012, 09:28:52 AM
Not having a QT to yell at Conq for impersonating me was the real troll in this game.
It was surprisingly effective in telling me who my partner was at least.

Huh what for town VIP, killed the entire scumteam and wasn't even playing.

Pesco don't you think it was a little excessive to ruin the entire game because they copy/pasted asking someone not playing to guess their players?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 09:53:21 AM
The fundamental rule is that you don't talk to anyone outside of the game. Has there been any game where you were allowed to do so? So think about why people are having casual discussions about the game outside of its bounds. The rule hasn't been enforced. If you break the rule and leave no evidence, nobody has to know. But the fact is that the players think absolutely nothing of such a rule and disregard it. If we're going to have it such a commonplace thing to discuss the game outside the thread whenever we feel like it, there's really no need to have a game where the amount of priviliged information a player has can make a difference.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: GMOFucker: Makin' GMOs To Fuck 'Em on September 16, 2012, 10:10:45 AM
well this is like the fourth time i've been town mvp on this site without actually rolling town
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 10:21:07 AM
You're doing a good job.

Who was mysteryman Den-O?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raikaria on September 16, 2012, 10:30:08 AM
I was Sasword.

I guess I was right, half. Decade was mafia. Kiva-la wasn't, however.

Kiva wasn't though.

I was enjoying that game :/
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 16, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
So.

Cards?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
Standard carding for modkills apply.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 16, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
'kay.

Do you want to try to run a different game instead?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
Discuss this over IRC if you're still in.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 16, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
I did?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 16, 2012, 12:19:42 PM
Wait wait wait are we talking right half from our view point or kaman view point?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raikaria on September 16, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
Discuss this over IRC if you're still in.

I don't know where to find the IRC.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
That was just to Kilga concerning running a replacement game.

Wait wait wait are we talking right half from our view point or kaman view point?
The Cyclone half of W.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: OOO on September 16, 2012, 12:54:02 PM
I just got time after two busy days and I see this?
Orz. Well I was bad anyway.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on September 16, 2012, 12:58:44 PM
SUBARASHII!!!
But no happy birthdays to any Kamen Riders.

No surprise I was OOOs.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raikaria on September 16, 2012, 01:06:49 PM
I just realized.

Serela has been in 3 games. All 3 times she's been the cause of it ending, in the first 2 by voting a townie on Lylo and having Scum quickhammer, and this time by the modkill.

Serela, y u always be the end of the game?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 01:10:35 PM
1) 'He'.
2) What's the first game? ... The last time I remember that happening besides last game was in SYWTBTT.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raikaria on September 16, 2012, 01:26:04 PM
Oh, Serela is a he. My bad.

At the end of TD Mafia he said he did the exact same thing last time.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: NekoNekoRex on September 16, 2012, 01:55:47 PM
Well I guess I kind of fell flat onto that one. Again.

Apparently talking about how funny Rawr is to be with is kind of a big deal, despite thinking it was kind of obvious who we were?

Oh well, at least I wasn't modkilled for misspelling "clinches" as "clenches" 8 times in a row.

:/

This game in general felt like a mine field. I should have replaced when I had the chance. I was bound to step somewhere I shouldn't sooner or later.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raitaki on September 16, 2012, 02:16:45 PM
Ouch.
Fuck me and my sudden busy schedule. My attention span just whiffed over some of the posts :V I even thought Sasword was IHNN (too lazy to bother checking who are actually in the game as town) and tried to kinda meta down that path until halfway thru D1 (the parts starting Friday, anyway) and was like "oshi, what if that is Raikaria" :V

Yeah, I certainly screwed up some this game. But it was ruined anyway so ;_; And yeah, my playstyle in Adorable wasn't for keeps, that game I just got introduced to in-depth scumhunting, and people just generally gave me the newbcard so I took it and just kept my trap mostly shut until LyLo :V I'm trying to actually post now though, and failing but I'll try :hurr:

Also, can I put my Resident Evil Mafia round on the hosting queue? I've seen enough forum mafia games to be a mod for mafia, at least. The setup's going to be a borrowed one, and I'll show it to someone experienced before hosting to make sure it's balanced enough for MotK.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: I have no name on September 16, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
I don't see the point in a modkill for asking "which player am I" when anyone who checks the signups knows you're in the game.

But seriously, the entire scumteam got modkilled mid-D1.  What.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 16, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
If the rules say "don't talk about the game outside of the game", then...you don't talk about the game outside of the game. Saying "I only broke the rules a little bit" is still saying you broke the rules.

I can appreciate that different mods have different flexibilities in regards to the rules, but they're still the rules. People getting offended at the enforcement of the rules should maybe consider getting offended at the people that actually broke them, since, y'know, if they hadn't broken the rules the game would still be going.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Pesco on September 16, 2012, 02:45:03 PM
Also, can I put my Resident Evil Mafia round on the hosting queue? I've seen enough forum mafia games to be a mod for mafia, at least. The setup's going to be a borrowed one, and I'll show it to someone experienced before hosting to make sure it's balanced enough for MotK.

Post in the other thread.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: NekoNekoRex on September 16, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FGaG3bpQcKB

Hydra Topic with Rawr, by the way. Still worth reading in any event.

Would hydra with rawr again
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 16, 2012, 03:39:49 PM
Who wouldnt hydra with me?
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raitaki on September 16, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
A Raitaki/rawr hydra would be pretty horrid :3c
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: PX on September 16, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
bg go next?

Anyways, sorry for the game.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Bardiche on September 16, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
Und n?r einige Kommentar f?r die sexy♥ Spielers.

Erst ?ber meiner Favorit, Kabuto. Es ist das super sexy♥♥ Town MVP. Benutzt die Vigilante und hat kein Angst. Super sexy♥♥ und─

I can't do this.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Shadoweh on September 16, 2012, 05:24:16 PM
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FGaG3bpQcKB

Hydra Topic with Rawr, by the way. Still worth reading in any event.

Would hydra with rawr again
There are 75 posts before the game starts. ;_;

Und n?r einige Kommentar f?r die sexy♥ Spielers.

Erst ?ber meiner Favorit, Kabuto. Es ist das super sexy♥♥ Town MVP. Benutzt die Vigilante und hat kein Angst. Super sexy♥♥ und─

I can't do this.
TAKE ME INTO YOUR ARMS BARON OF JUST SEXY  :* :* :* :* :* :*
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Conqueror on September 16, 2012, 09:04:26 PM
Uh, welp. Raitaki, don't self-hammer as town; there was a chance you could have survived D1 if you hadn't done that, even if you thought it was hopeless.

Don't know if Pesco is going to post the full setup so I'll just post what I got from IRC

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fKErbZJ7rv3dc

[05:14:53] <~Pesco> Players/slots
[05:14:53] <~Pesco> NNR/Rawr - W
[05:14:53] <~Pesco> Shadoweh - Kick Hopper
[05:14:53] <~Pesco> Conq - Punch Hopper
[05:14:53] <~Pesco> Bob - Den-O
[05:14:54] <~Pesco> YJ - OOO
[05:14:56] <~Pesco> Hero - DiEnd
[05:14:58] <~Pesco> ActionDan - Skull
[05:14:59] <~Pesco> Raitaki - Kiva-la
[05:15:01] <~Pesco> Raikaria - Sasword
[05:15:03] <~Pesco> Serela - Kabuto
[05:15:07] <~Pesco> PX - Decade

[05:15:50] <~Pesco> town had JOAT (Den-O) , Inventor (OOO), ascetic (Skull), thief (DiEnd)
[05:16:02] <~Pesco> Kiva-la had role immunity from Decade and DiEnd
[05:12:47] <~Pesco> shadoweh can pgo for her little brother
[05:13:31] <Shadoweh> Teehee. I could also roleblock anyone targetting you. I was going to keep you safe
[05:30:48] <Serela> I had a power to become mod-confirmed Serela, so we figured maybe I could counterclaim him being Serela
[05:21:36] <ActionDan> what powers did the scum have
[05:22:07] <~Pesco> Roleclopy and standard GF with resolution priority

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You are Punch Hopper and this world is hell as Kick Hopper always tells you. Kick Hopper is your idolized big brother. If anything were to happen to him, you would probably go back to trying to live a normal life. But when the despair gets too much for you, you may post ##Aniki for a one-time request that Kick Hopper (if he is still alive) be the only one that can place the hammer vote on you.

You are aligned with yourself. You know Kick Hopper shares your win condition. You win if you are still alive when the game is declared over.

If Kick Hopper is dead, you win when all threats to Riders are removed from the game.

Confirm by posting "CHANGE PUNCH HOPPER" in the game thread.

Signature phrases
None

Finishing moves
Rider Jump -> Rider Punch (single action, but make separate posts for these)
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raitaki on September 16, 2012, 09:09:20 PM
As soon as I realized I just whiffed over Kabuto's post where he addressed my bandwagon I was like "welp I screwed up royally ;_;" and predictably I started getting votes by the bundle.

Also, I only self-hammered because Decade tried to do a fail hammer vote on me :3c
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Conqueror on September 16, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
Should have let Decade take the fall himself, especially as it turns out he was scum. :V
Just don't self-hammer as town in general; it's a bad idea 99% of the time and it robs town of extra information. Unless you're trying to prevent a no lynch I guess but we weren't in danger of that at the time so.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Shadoweh on September 16, 2012, 09:18:15 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF you were a townie in disguise! What is this!
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You are Kick Hopper and the world is hell. You suffer this life with your younger brother Punch Hopper. The first player who targets Punch Hopper will trigger a reaction from you. Each night declare whether the reaction, should it trigger, will be a roleblock or a kill.

You are aligned with yourself. You know Punch Hopper shares your win condition. You win if you are still alive when the game is declared over.

Confirm by posting "CHANGE KICK HOPPER" in the game thread.

Signature phrases
"You just laughed at my little brother didn't you?"
"This place is still a hell."

Finishing moves
Rider Jump -> Rider Kick (single action, but make separate posts for these)
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raitaki on September 16, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
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You are Kamen Rider Kiva-la, the destroyer of Decade. You are also a girl and immune to anything Decade or DiEnd tries to do to you. Refer to yourself with female gender pronouns at all times and remind others of this fact.

You are aligned with Riders. You win when all threats to Riders are removed from the game.

Confirm by posting "Hikari family's secret technique: Laughing Pressure Point!" in the game thread.

Signature phrases
"Decade..."

Finishing moves
Sonic Stab
Right off the bat I got modhints at 2 PRs. Too bad I didn't get to use this knowledge :V
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Hero999 on September 16, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
You are Kamen Rider DiEnd, the greatest thief of treasures across all the worlds. Each night you may attempt to steal the most valuable treasure of another player. This may or may not prevent them from using their abilities. You may return any stolen items at any time during the day or when you die. Post "##Return: <item>" to return a stolen item in your posession.

You are aligned with Riders. You win when all threats to Riders are removed from the game.

Confirm by posting "Kamen Ride: DiEnd" in the game thread.

Signature phrases
"If there's treasure, then it's for me to steal it."
"The most valuable treasure of this world is mine"
"Only I can tell me what to do."
"I'll treat you to the best sea cucumber."

Finishing moves
Dimension Shoot
Final Attack Ride: DiEnd/Kiva/Blade
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Raikaria on September 16, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
You are Kamen Rider Sasword, the scorpion Rider. Your default form is Masked Form. You may Cast Off your Masked Form to reveal your player identity at any time during the day.

You are aligned with Riders. You win when all threats to Riders are removed from the game.

Confirm by posting "Change Scorpion" in the game thread.

Signature phrases
"I am the man who will stand at the top of..."
"I am the man who swings a sword in the name of god."
"Jiiya always said..."

Finishing moves
Rider Slash

Everyone else is doing it :V
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: BT on September 16, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
Und n?r einige Kommentar f?r die sexy♥ Spielers.

Erst ?ber meiner Favorit, Kabuto. Es ist das super sexy♥♥ Town MVP. Benutzt die Vigilante und hat kein Angst. Super sexy♥♥ und─

I can't do this.
YES YOU CAN
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: Bardiche on September 16, 2012, 10:04:28 PM
Also, I only self-hammered because Decade tried to do a fail hammer vote on me :3c

The only time it is ever all right to hammer yourself is when there is a crucial moment in time where only you are eligible to be hammered and not reaching a majority will cause a random lynch, no lynch or game end. On top of that, there must also be reasonable reason to assert that your lynch will benefit Town more than a No Lynch or Random Lynch or Game End would.

Which is to say, almost never. Seriously, Raitaki. Don't self-hammer.


YES YOU CAN

Ganz nicht m?glich, meiner Freund. Ich kann ja eigentlich kein Deutsch sprechen.
Title: Re: Kamen Rider Mafia (Game Over: Abandoned)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on September 17, 2012, 07:31:35 AM
You are Kamen Rider OOO who wields the power of the core medals. The variety of medal combos offer a whole range of abilities. Your default form is TaToBa. You may change forms at any time during the day by swapping out your equipped medals for the medals you have in stock. Post the names of the medals you will be using (in their appropriate order and colours) and the name of the transformation in bold to change forms. Refer to your confirmation method for the style of the transformation commands.

Medal slot - Red/Green/Yellow/Blue/Grey (or white)
Head - Taka/Kuwagata/Lion/Shachi/Sai
Chest - Kujaku/Kamakiri/Tora/Unagi/Gorilla
Legs - Condor/Batta/Cheetah/Tako/Zou

Medal combos - Each night you may attempt to use any ability of your choice. If it is compatible with the form you entered the night phase with, the ability will be approved. On successful usage of an ability, the medal or medals that granted the ability will be consumed and no longer available for further form changes.

You are aligned with Riders. You win when all threats to Riders are removed from the game.

Confirm by posting

Taka! Tora! Batta!
TaToBa, TaToBa-TaToBa!"

in the game thread.

Signature phrases
"I'll transform!!"

Finishing moves
TaJaDor - Prominence Drop
GataKiriBa - Gatakiriba Kick
LahToraTah - Gush Cross
SaGoZo - Sagozo Impact
ShaUTa - Octo Banish
TaToBa - Tatoba Kick
Any random combo form - Rider Kick

GIGA SCAN!

Pesco where is my PuToTyra