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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Genji's Battle Arena => Topic started by: Pesco on April 20, 2011, 08:05:38 PM

Title: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on April 20, 2011, 08:05:38 PM
The games server, Henrietta, is sitting around with a lot of idle power. So why not put those resources to use by telling us what games you'd like to see a server being made for.

Key points that will get your suggestion approved are:
1) Interest level. If the server will draw a good population, then we'll have a community. We're here to play together with as many people as possible.
2) Availability of alternatives. If there are already lots of servers for the game in question available, we'd just end up competing for activity with them. But don't take this the wrong way. Sometimes you just want a place to play the popular games without the nuisance of a poor userbase. Share why you'd like a new place to play and we'll consider it.

The 2 points are the basic criteria but we can do exceptions. If it's a game that's hard to find servers for and doesn't take a lot of resources to run (e.g. NetHack/Crawl), we'll work something out for you.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 20, 2011, 08:07:39 PM
As a technical note, it has to fit the following two criteria, no if ands or buts.

1) It has to have a Linux-compatible server
2) It has to be free (not the game itself but the server)

If it doesn't fit either then we can't host it.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on April 23, 2011, 12:03:28 AM
Runescape, im sure its out there. For popularity it wont any get livelier (deader) then RO.  :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: draganuv15 on April 23, 2011, 10:59:46 AM
I would probably play Runescape, If I was bothered to get a Premium account and I didn't have an English Critical Evaluation to do, sorry :/
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: trancehime on April 23, 2011, 01:33:04 PM
Runescape, im sure its out there. For popularity it wont any get livelier (deader) then RO.  :V

Are there even Runescape private servers? Who the heck plays that garbage? :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Rikter on April 23, 2011, 01:39:22 PM
Suprisingly a quick google search makes it looks like they have them
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on April 23, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
Are there even Runescape private servers? Who the heck plays that garbage? :V

back in my day this garbage was amazing  :3

also it can't be as bad(funny?) seeing you in a dress  :P
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Molten on April 23, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
I don't know what others think but personally i would love to see a MotK Minecraft server. Either for survival or creating awesome stuff.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on April 23, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
now that i thought about it... how the hell do runescape private servers work :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: wooterz on April 23, 2011, 07:58:43 PM
I vote Minecraft. Mostly because my server is broken and yeah.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on April 23, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
I believe we can't do Minecraft because of how resource intensive it gets. This main server is supposed to be shared among all our games.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: draganuv15 on April 23, 2011, 09:58:24 PM
As long as it isn't WoW or MapleStory i'm in.  :V

EDIT: Scratch it, if we stuck together and helped eachother ACTUALLY get levels i'd consider Maplestory, but I'm not assuring it. :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on April 23, 2011, 10:23:35 PM
I'll suggest GTA: SA with SAMP (San Andreas Multi Player) due to the Touhou mod, which (not surprisingly) very few servers if any host.

However, we're still trying to iron out the kinks in MP and get spellcards (in the form of CLEO scripts) working.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 23, 2011, 10:28:18 PM
Minecraft is a no because of resources.  It is a horribly resource intensive thing to host (hello 2GBs of RAM).  We'd like to but it's just not in the cards with our current resources.

No on Runescape/MapleStory/WoW.  People have gotten cease and desist letters and their sites shutdown for hosting such servers so I don't even want to get close to that hornet's nest.  Only reason I host an RO server is because Gravity doesn't give a crap and hasn't gone after anyone except people who are actively trying to make money off their server.

GTA:SA is a maybe but from what I understand it's pretty buggy server wise.  I'll have to do some research on it.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Stuffman on April 24, 2011, 12:18:46 AM
What options are there for fightan games? Kaillera server?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on April 24, 2011, 12:36:16 AM
What options are there for fightan games? Kaillera server?
Seconding this, but wouldn't we also have to coordinate emulators as well? (haven't played online on them in a while, so....)

I would also have suggested Cube 2: Sauerbraten server but there are already many (empty) ones, especially in Europe, and the game itself, while free, is very obscure.

As for GTA: SA, well, the PC version was never originally designed with MP capability, so SAMP is entirely community-driven. Result is somewhat stable but still it is a bit shaky.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 24, 2011, 12:45:23 AM
What options are there for fightan games? Kaillera server?
GGPO is essentially superior to everything else so there's not much of a need for an MotK kaillera server or whatever.  And mizuumi.net covers the fitan games Touhou/Doijun wise.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: orinrin on April 24, 2011, 02:20:51 AM
Unreal Tournament.   :smug:
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on April 24, 2011, 02:27:51 AM
Unreal Tournament.   :smug:
Assuming it's the 1999 one...then I say Quake III with ioquake3 source port!

...but IIRC both games still have active communities, so neither will likely fly.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 24, 2011, 04:29:32 AM
Q3 maybe, but UT99 really doesn't.  Plus there's all sorts of room for us to put our own spin on things.  I have I think every single CTF and Assault map ever made, and I got some zany mutators (and custom weapons I made).

UT99 definitely piques my interest, I'll think about it.  Maybe UT2K4 if you want a more modern variant.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Stuffman on April 24, 2011, 04:38:43 AM
Oh man, a good old school arena twitch FPS would be awesome. Definitely in favor of that.

Screw this modern realistic crap in competitive FPS today >:|
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 24, 2011, 06:38:35 AM
I'm definitely leaning towards a UT99 and a UT2k4 server, maybe even a Q3 server (these things aren't exactly that intensive :b)
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Tamashii Kanjou on April 24, 2011, 07:06:45 AM
It's not often I come in here and maybe I'll start doing so as we go along...

But if you guys do UT99, I''m never leaving this part... ever.  :derp: Because I love that game but never had the chance to do online multi-player. So the thought of doing it with you guys brings a smile to my face. XD
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on April 24, 2011, 08:13:03 AM
In favour of UT2K4, personally, along with one or two of the following: Q3, Wolfenstein ET, Cube 2, UT99, or a Q3-based total conversion (such as Urban Terror). We need some old-school FPS games here to show the slower modern shooters who's boss (and no, Bulletstorm doesn't count as a flashback to this era).
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on April 24, 2011, 02:59:17 PM
Yeah id play UT seeing as runescape/maplestory are out of the question :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Ace-Royale on April 24, 2011, 10:57:19 PM
Diablo 1 :) We could play ironman.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 24, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
Diablo 1 :) We could play ironman.
Umm, there's already a Bnetd server.  Just follow the instructions to add it as a gateway and make a thread to organize games.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Ace-Royale on April 24, 2011, 11:33:22 PM
That's Diablo 2 though. BNetEditor 2 only shows: Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Starcraft, and CounterStrike. I was asking for Diablo 1, unless there is a server which I am not aware of.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on April 24, 2011, 11:39:29 PM
It's the same thing.  PVPGN supports all gen 1 battle.net games, Starcraft, Warcraft 2/3 and Diablo 1/2.  You just need to figure out how to add it to the gateway list.  Just look for instructions on how to do so.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Rikter on April 28, 2011, 08:39:24 PM
I would suggest PSO Blue Burst but I don't think very many people other than myself would be interested and I am unsure what the most complete server runs on.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Captain Infinity on May 04, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
My god DrRawr you jerk. RuneScape is terrible and this is coming from a person who is both a mod in the game and has maxed out in it :V I played to trololol kids. But argh that game just attracts drama llamas worse than anywhere and their e-dating issues for me.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on May 04, 2011, 04:50:04 PM
You know how we say anything Rawr would do is banned? Yeah...
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Captain Infinity on May 04, 2011, 04:53:52 PM
You know how we say anything Rawr would do is banned? Yeah...

I see the reasoning behind that wise law Pescar.

Except I want a law allowing us to duct tape him away from the damn keyboard now.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Yukarin on May 04, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
Q3!

I want to change my game a bit. I'm fed up with CoD4. (well, part of it) Huzzah pixel rail!

Shiiiiit. Wait, does anyone know how to make Q3 NOT crash in Win7? It always crashes for me.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on May 06, 2011, 02:20:32 PM
UT99/UT2K4 will be up this weekend.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on May 06, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
Q3!

I want to change my game a bit. I'm fed up with CoD4. (well, part of it) Huzzah pixel rail!

Shiiiiit. Wait, does anyone know how to make Q3 NOT crash in Win7? It always crashes for me.
Try using the ioquake3 source port instead. Works better for me and gets updated still unlike the official id binaries.

UT99/UT2K4 will be up this weekend.
Nice! Hopefully Q3 (ioQ3 while at that) is next.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Stuffman on May 09, 2011, 11:27:07 PM
UT99/UT2K4 will be up this weekend.

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Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on May 11, 2011, 12:40:04 AM
Now that I'm unemployed I am slowly uploading all the necessary server files and stuff to get it in place.  Probably later this week.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Yukarin on May 11, 2011, 07:34:20 PM
It doesn't crash, like, at all, EP? HOLY CRAP OMG WHERE DO I GET IT?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on May 12, 2011, 05:27:42 AM
It doesn't crash, like, at all, EP? HOLY CRAP OMG WHERE DO I GET IT?
OK it took me a while to get where you were coming from.

IOQ3 is here (http://ioquake3.org/). Just copy your Q3 files over to the right directory and it'll go smoothly from there (or if you have the Steam version, it'll do it automatically).

It runs a hell of a lot better than the official binaries for me.

Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Ghaleon on May 18, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
I doubt this is a viable option since the game is probably pretty high tech to host for a free server, and I'm not sure how one even obtains the ability to host it anyway but...
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,9521.0.html

Basically, I'm sure it's not an option since it's a relatively higher tech game to host I'm sure.

Forum interest for it seemed pretty high back when it was new, but the game devs implemented a fuck-stupid rule that pretty much killed everyone's desire to play it. If our own server was hosted, that rule would have to be cut, or else interest would still be nil. But I reckon that's easy enough for a server admin or something. I'd be willing to try and figure out how to fix that myself if every other condition was met.

Again, I realize this probably has a snowballs chance in hell, so don't think it's a dumb suggestion, just a "why not" one >=P.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on May 23, 2011, 06:42:46 AM
1) There's no server for it, nor will there ever be.
2) RO is the only MMO (maybe UO) I would ever consider hosting.  Hosting MMOs is a incredibly grey legal area and some of the more "zealous" devs have sent takedown notices and litigation for hosting servers (Maplestory anyone?)

Plus MMOs don't really make sense to host for a community like MotK.  Most of these games require massive numbers of people to be fully functional and self sustaining and outside of a few sandboxy type games you're never going to get enough people to make it work well.  And a lot of these games are free to play anyways so why bother?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Helepolis on May 23, 2011, 06:57:28 AM
TSO, is it possible for me to obtain FTP and admin control of the UT server. I want to introduce BunnyTrack to the people on the server.

Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on May 23, 2011, 07:01:09 AM
If it were up :b

But yes I can give out shell access and stuff for people if I think they're trustworthy :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Ghaleon on May 23, 2011, 08:55:45 AM
1) There's no server for it, nor will there ever be.
2) RO is the only MMO (maybe UO) I would ever consider hosting.  Hosting MMOs is a incredibly grey legal area and some of the more "zealous" devs have sent takedown notices and litigation for hosting servers (Maplestory anyone?)

Plus MMOs don't really make sense to host for a community like MotK.  Most of these games require massive numbers of people to be fully functional and self sustaining and outside of a few sandboxy type games you're never going to get enough people to make it work well.  And a lot of these games are free to play anyways so why bother?

Yeah, I didn't think it very likely at all, didn't hurt to ask though. Though hearing the answer was traumatizing! *wails* >=p
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 04, 2011, 01:51:49 PM
Can we get Terraria :D
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 24, 2011, 12:44:36 AM
TERRARIA SERVER RIGHT?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on June 30, 2011, 04:45:28 PM
If I didn't answer the first time I don't think spamming it 2 weeks later will help :b

Terraria is Windows-only (server included).  See my first post where I say it has to have a LINUX dedicated server application.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Helepolis on July 01, 2011, 05:52:00 AM
YEAH, WINDOWS SUCKS, LINUX BANZAI.

Terraria Booooooo.

Unreal Tournament Yeaaaaaaah!



On a serious note: Have you already finished moving and got the time to setup that UT server or not TSO?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on July 01, 2011, 08:30:58 AM
I'll take care of it eventually, this weekend's kind of bad since it's the 4th of July but Saturday I should be free enough to do it.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Helepolis on July 01, 2011, 01:33:31 PM
I'll take care of it eventually, this weekend's kind of bad since it's the 4th of July but Saturday I should be free enough to do it.
Oh right 4th of July, independence day. inb4movieIndependanceDayisshownonTV.

I'll  be watching warmly girls preparing servers.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 01, 2011, 04:51:25 PM
Oh right 4th of July, independence day. inb4movieIndependanceDayisshownonTV.

I'll  be watching warmly girls preparing servers.
Not the ID4 movie? I thought that was a worldwide tradition. FOR SHAME, HELEPOLIS
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Stuffman on July 06, 2011, 01:39:23 AM
Now that TF2 is free, should we consider re-opening the TF2 server?
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: helvetica on July 06, 2011, 04:04:58 AM
The problem was never interest (or that it cost money), the problem with TF2 is there's tons of servers for TF2.  There'd be nothing gained by us hosting one.  I would much rather host a server that few people would use but that few alternatives exist rather than a server everyone would use that there's tons of (and I mean there's TONS of TF2 servers).

Lemme get UT/UT2k4 up first to gauge interest in FPS servers.  If those go well what we could do is have a rotating FPS night and have a different game each night to keep things fresh.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Amraphenson on September 05, 2011, 03:34:31 AM
I think playing other D2 clones that people are less familiar with would be fun. Titan's Quest or Hellgate London, for example. But people's computers can't handle them. ._.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dorakyura on September 05, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
I think playing other D2 clones that people are less familiar with would be fun. Titan's Quest or Hellgate London, for example. But people's computers can't handle them. ._.

Hellgate London does not really need much
    Windows XP oder Windows Vista
    CPU: 1.8 GHz (XP) / 2.4 GHz (Vista)
    Arbeitsspeicher: 1 GB (XP) / 2 GB (Vista)
    Festplatte: 6.0 GB freier Speicher
    Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 oder vergleichbar

It was running on my 6 Years old Desktop just fine on maximum graphics :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Captain Infinity on September 05, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
Hellgate London does not really need much
    Windows XP oder Windows Vista
    CPU: 1.8 GHz (XP) / 2.4 GHz (Vista)
    Arbeitsspeicher: 1 GB (XP) / 2 GB (Vista)
    Festplatte: 6.0 GB freier Speicher
    Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 oder vergleichbar

It was running on my 6 Years old Desktop just fine on maximum graphics :V

What, German specs. This is clearly out of my reach.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on September 05, 2011, 11:24:04 AM
Hellgate London does not really need much
    Windows XP oder Windows Vista
    CPU: 1.8 GHz (XP) / 2.4 GHz (Vista)
    Arbeitsspeicher: 1 GB (XP) / 2 GB (Vista)
    Festplatte: 6.0 GB freier Speicher
    Grafikkarte: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 oder vergleichbar

It was running on my 6 Years old Desktop just fine on maximum graphics :V

Nope I don't have such specs on my PC :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dorakyura on September 05, 2011, 11:44:10 AM
Nope I don't have such specs on my PC :V

we can do it the other way around.
Pesco, post your specs, since you are the LCD (lowest common denominator)

Then we look for a game your PC can handle :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on September 05, 2011, 12:18:01 PM
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9789.0;attach=18489;image)

64MB split off for onboard VGA
About 10gigs free space right after a major cleanup. Average free space at any given time is only about 2 gigs.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: ApharmdB on September 05, 2011, 01:35:43 PM
That's not so bad. The performance bottleneck's probably the hard disk speed and the lack of RAM.

Regardless, Hellgate London can go DIAF. I wasted so much time on that game before I realized how much it sucks D:
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on September 05, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
(http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9789.0;attach=18489;image)

64MB split off for onboard VGA
About 10gigs free space right after a major cleanup. Average free space at any given time is only about 2 gigs.
Can you try running Speccy (http://www.piriform.com/speccy) for the specs instead? They go in more detail, and can easily be posted online.

No comment on Hellgate London. Never played it, likely won't.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Amraphenson on September 06, 2011, 04:15:54 AM
I hope the Hellgate Global/Tokyo projects end up well.

Anyways we might consider Titan Quest? Pesco's still sad in that regard, though.
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Dorakyura on September 08, 2011, 01:10:02 PM
64MB split off for onboard VGA
About 10gigs free space right after a major cleanup. Average free space at any given time is only about 2 gigs.

Oh god  :( that free space is not so good, but hey, your PC is slightly betten then my good old IBM T43 (Thanks to my old boss that gave it to me after I finished my apprenticeship) ^^
And I have to use it when I'm going to study  :derp:
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Pentium M 750 1.86GHz
533MHz DDR2 13?? MB RAM (don't ask me why :V, I found an extra RAM slot so I upgraded my notebook with it ^^)
64MB ATI Mobility RADEON x300
80GB Harddisk
Have to install Hellgate London on it (after I reinstalled XP) and try it out, if it's running you are clear to go, you just have to make some space.

(Small trick, go "Start -> Run -> services.msc" Enter, search for the "Automatic Updates"-Service and "Stop" it. Then browse to %windir% (C:\Windows\), delete all $NtUninstallKBxxxxxxxx$ folders and the "SoftwareDistribution" folder, this deletes all remaining Updates Installation Files that are no longer needed)
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: Pesco on September 08, 2011, 04:47:33 PM
This thread now about how to optimize Pesco's PC :V
Title: Re: What do YOU want to play?
Post by: DX7.EP on September 08, 2011, 05:14:43 PM
This thread now about how to optimize Pesco's PC :V
We should move this to the tech thread at SM Cafe now. :V