Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Genji's Battle Arena => Topic started by: trancehime on September 13, 2011, 08:14:32 AM
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I like how Youkai Jesus made a Metastasis thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10792.0.html) yet none of you indolent farces made a DotA thread... What a travesty! Interestingly there's been an increasingly larger DotA scene here in MotK, so I wanted to present an avenue to discuss it without massive amounts of flaming and arguments. Imba DotA discussion is also welcome here, but try to keep things parallel with each other so as to not create huge cluster-fuck conversations, I guess?
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Imba dota is incredibly silly and everyone should play it.
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I like how in imbadota, Invoker is not imba at all, but is selectable nonetheless.
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isnt that the game where you can blow up planets and shit?
I think you have to wrong game. Go read my guide.
ANYWAY, WE SHOULD STOP DERAILING THIS THREAD.
LIGHTNING BALL GO.
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isnt that the game where you can blow up planets and shit?
HAHAHAHAH
grow-moonglaive-marksmanship-overpower/enrage/god str
every -apss dotaimbaplayer's wetdream admit it
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Leap Dirge, DPS Necrolyte, and omnislashing spider summarize Imbadota up pretty nicely, atleast in my opinion. That's all I've got to say about imbadota as of now.
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Backstab Tiny.
I win :V
Also spliting off the Metastasis trolling to the Metastasis thread.
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Furion with tidebringer, berserker blood and broodmother ult :smug:
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imbadota is pretty nice because some of skills got reworked and some special items
what i only hate is attribute bonus for str heroes is really ridiculous makes nukes weaker way more faster
also overpower/primalroar/enchanttotem/fleshheap and i trolls everybodeh :D (makes lv 18 boneclinkz still has 13 str whish is gold)
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Pure DPS riki with shank item. Hahaha.
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Ursa-Agility hero that gains more str than agility
Ball lightning-The best in game for mobility
Paralyzing Cask-The best in game for stunning multiple enemies
Ion Shell-The best in game for tanking and making everyone around you fall down
Rain of Chaos-The best in pushing power
I won ImbaDota.
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lol rain of chaos i remembered dormio's nesaaj firstblood someone with raining those meteors
that was hillarious
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Split shot, Bouncing, Reincar and bouncing.
Best Tanker Panda pusher. Ever.
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i remembered Eyrie's jahrakal got bloodfield (dunno if this is the right name) - centapassive - reincar - craggy exterior (maybe)
took the whole team with insane disables that makes you go alt+f4 in normaldota and permabash about 5mins nonstop focusfiring just to kill him
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i remembered Eyrie's jahrakal got bloodfield (dunno if this is the right name) - centapassive - reincar - craggy exterior (maybe)
took the whole team with insane disables that makes you go alt+f4 in normaldota and permabash about 5mins nonstop focusfiring just to kill him
Was that the 3v3 of Dular/Dormio/me trying to kill Eyrie but it took us like 2 whole minutes (With TWO OF US HAVING DIFFUSAL BLADE) just to kill him?
That was pretty funny.
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Teamspeak is evil. Did you guys hear me or the gay guy talk? Because I said "Hi" and "INFINITEH HUGGIES" and then that gay guy talked for the rest of the game.
Dormio sounds too badass. Like with balls of steel and blood of fire.
Trance so girly voice Even moreso then me.
Infinity sounds just like how I imagined him to be. Durr.
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Teamspeak is evil.
no u
Trance so girly voice Even moreso then me.
she is mai yuri waifu >w<
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Share Trance with me...! >\<
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perfect yuri=couples of two
NO 3RD PERSON ALLOWED
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YOU BASTARDS!
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Invoker IS imba. :|
Cold Snap + Meteor = Your hero following the Meteor. (also; perma stun)
Sun Strike Dmg up to 1.8k
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still hoping for imba dota 2 but thats unlikely happens D:
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Teamspeak is evil. Did you guys hear me or the gay guy talk? Because I said "Hi" and "INFINITEH HUGGIES" and then that gay guy talked for the rest of the game.
Dormio sounds too badass. Like with balls of steel and blood of fire.
Trance so girly voice Even moreso then me.
Infinity sounds just like how I imagined him to be. Durr.
I don't have anything to say here so:
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2jephxd.jpg)
still hoping for imba dota 2 but thats unlikely happens D:
What what. I DON'T WANT WRATH OF NATURE THAT INSTAGIBS EVERYWHERE.
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Dormio sounds too badass. Like with balls of steel and blood of fire.
Dormio is badass!
He is 24/7 sick and is still alive.
What doesn?t kill you, makes you even more badass :derp:
You don't want to hear my german accent :blush:
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dat parsee avatar
also name me any girls/boys in animu/mango history that are epic and Dormio's mere presence annihilates them
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dat parsee avatar
you are just jealous :derp:
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Uh, so is this a general DotA topic or only imba DotA one?
I hope it is the general topic. I'd like to give the normal DotA some love.
Here's the trick me and my friend performed today: pick a Huskar and a Shadow Demon. Huskar gets Aghanim's Scepter (but after he gets the usual Helm of the Dominator + Power Treads + Armlet of Mordiggian). Shadow Demon gets Ethereal Blade (I only bought boots before it because I am bad at farming as Shadow Demon and no additional gear can help me).
Level 4 Soul Catcher on an enemy followed by Ethereal Blade.
Now use Life Break on it.
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???
IT'S A
ONE
HIT
KO!!
Only if the enemy has no additional magic resistance.
It's impractical, but glorious. You should try it if you have a friend who plays DotA. Life Break on an enemy targeted by Soul Catcher and Ethereal Blade takes at least 100% of the target's current HP in magical damage after the 25% magic damage resistance that all heroes have.
In other words, it instantly kills anyone if they do not have additional resistance. A hero with 6 Hearts of Tarrasque and 8000 HP goes down in one hit. That's pretty scary.
Yes, it can be countered with Planeswalker's Cloak. It is still horrifying to see someone's health instantly drop from full to only about 15%.
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I like to do the same with Necrolyte + Huskar. :V
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It can be done the way you described, too. I just think that the eredar + huskar combination is more awesome. There is something psychological about huskar one-shotting you without even throwing his spear. Crushed by manliness.
If dagon is a shotgun, then eredar and huskar's combo would be an ion cannon. :yukkuri:
Oh and I forgot to say that we had a huge advantage over the enemy team from the start. Our ganks and team play were much better than theirs. That is why we were even able to build our ion cannon. It only fired twice (and both times with a huge success, commented by me in game as written above in large letters) before the enemy team surrendered. I do not think it can be gotten easily in a balanced game. It is just here mostly to overkill people who are already defeated. Or to scare them. And it really scared them a lot, because all of their barracks were still there, and all level 3 towers were standing at the time when they admitted defeat. They just... did not want to be instagibbed anymore, I think. It's not fun.
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Um, <any high damage nuke>+Maledict is fine too, and much more practical >_> You also don't need to make the enemy Ethereal as well.
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rearm+nature of wrath
/thread
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Um, <any high damage nuke>+Maledict is fine too, and much more practical >_> You also don't need to make the enemy Ethereal as well.
Yeah, but it does not actually kill instantly. The life break trick is awesome but impractical. But it made me and my friend go nerd rage over it. Much like how those guys reacted to getting one of their first one-hit kills. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q68zJPfJBOE&t=5m43s) (They are kinda bad at Pokemon.) Or maybe even harder, because it is quite difficult to reduce a hero's health from full to zero in one hit. Priceless.
oppYasik, I am talking about normal DotA, not OMGDotA or ImbaDotA (never played nonstandard DotAs). I... still do not know if I can talk about normal DotA in this thread. :\
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oppYasik, I am talking about normal DotA, not OMGDotA or ImbaDotA (never played nonstandard DotAs). I... still do not know if I can talk about normal DotA in this thread. :\
Read the OP man (aka yes, of course :V).
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@Conq: Not like anyone actually cares. :V
EDIT: Oh, I should try to keep this somewhat on topic.
Rearm in imba. /thread
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Oh you.
Did any of you get your Dota 2 keys yet?
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Impractical combos that one hit kill but kinda don't need half the steps to do that yay?
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Thanks Conq, I have read the first post but I am stupid and have problems with understanding, so I wanted someone to personally tell me it is OK.
Impractical combos that one hit kill but kinda don't need half the steps to do that yay?
My combo has three steps (Soul Catcher, Ethereal Blade, Improved Life Break). So by removing half the steps you mean only removing one step, yes? Can you tell me how the combo I posted can be made shorter? Because I have read about it on playdota.com forums and there were some mathematical explanations about how much damage amplification you need and it looked like the +damage provided by Soul Catcher and Ethereal Blade is the absolute minimum. From what I remember, people said that you need to amplify improved Life Break's damage by about 200% if you want it to one-hit kill. I do not know how the game mechanics work.
Ethereal Blade is really hard to complete and is not that useful. I hope I can trade it for the Veil of Discord because it looks more useful (and cheaper, and easier to aim).
About DotA 2: it is like Counter-Strike: Source, is it not? It is the same thing as the original but with nicer graphics. I play Counter-Strike 1.6, and I think I am happy with the Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne map, DotA v6.72f.w3x, and its future updates, if there will be any.
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Just saying how lots of things will end up at the same result with less effort. Sure, you can one shot one dude, but its a lot of effort just for one dude. It's pretty cool, but really impractical.
I'd prefer blink dagger aghanim ES, really. Or other more practical builds.
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Dagon + refresh orb lion y/y?
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Just saying how lots of things will end up at the same result with less effort. Sure, you can one shot one dude, but its a lot of effort just for one dude. It's pretty cool, but really impractical.
Yep. But nothing says "no" to the other guy in DotA quite like personally bitch-slapping him with this. It's stylish. And shows that you care. I would be happy if someone owned me like that. Because you know that it is not by an accident that you were chosen to die like this. They spent over nine thousand gold just for you.
Okay, it is time to take it to new levels. Because, you know, it always kills if you do not have improved defense against spells. It is time to use it on someone with lots of health. Which means that I am going to try to make this "ion cannon" in a balanced game. Hooray for challenges!
I'd prefer blink dagger aghanim ES, really. Or other more practical builds.
This is where we are different. Public games players hate fear me, for I do not play to win. I seek fun in random awesomeness.
Dagon + refresh orb lion y/y?
Neat. However, the Refresher Orb's cooldown is way too long to use it all the time. With Huskar and Eredar, you can one-shot someone every 30 seconds.
Anyway, try it and post replays, please. I would love to watch this.
By the way, why can I not save replays after being disconnected from the game? (You know, when the enemy team surrenders, for example.) I really regret not being able to save that one replay when we actually pulled off the instagib combo.
I am thinking of a DPS build for Pudge. It is not going to happen, I am afraid. His spells are designed for killing with magic damage, not beating people in melee fight.
DPS Tiny was a success, at least against carries, because he can outcarry them in early to middle game. Go for Craggy Exterior and Avalanche, skipping Toss, because your stun is more useful and you want to be an anti-carry. Buy a Quelling Blade and take Grow on every level it is available for super easy last-hitting. Then buy the Power Treads. Then the Hyperstone. Then buy the Helm of the Dominator, or Battlefury, or Crystalys, and pretend to be a Large Mortred. Get the Cranium Basher instead of Crystalys if you want to be Roshan's Brother. It is very funny to play like this.
Next up: DPS Guardian Wisp? I heard it is possible... I mean, DPS Furions are everywhere, so why not Ios?
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I am thinking of a DPS build for Pudge. It is not going to happen, I am afraid. His spells are designed for killing with magic damage, not beating people in melee fight.
Best DPS is Pudge super late game when he's got like 150 base strength and items to supplement big strength and damage, and he has a self-heal. You fight, nom, then continue fighting. Win almost all fights.
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By the way, why can I not save replays after being disconnected from the game? (You know, when the enemy team surrenders, for example.) I really regret not being able to save that one replay when we actually pulled off the instagib combo.
check LastReplay.w3g
I am thinking of a DPS build for Pudge.
its possible but i recommend use the usual build pudge (at least you have Aghanim) then go dps
DPS Tiny was a success, at least against carries, because he can outcarry them in early to middle game. Go for Craggy Exterior and Avalanche, skipping Toss,
pretty hard because any forced dps build (i.e dps pugna dps tiny dps puck etc etc) you must own enemies hard so you can farm those items fast to kill them because with same items, of course natural dps heroes > forced build dps.
Anyway every hero in dota CAN went dps build (you should saw my techies with 3 divine rapier boy that was gold) its just...only happens when you got farmed really good and enemies are bunch of idiots
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check LastReplay.w3g
So it does record games even if you get disconnected. Thank you for showing me that. Next time I will know.
its possible but i recommend use the usual build pudge (at least you have Aghanim) then go dpspretty hard because any forced dps build (i.e dps pugna dps tiny dps puck etc etc) you must own enemies hard so you can farm those items fast to kill them because with same items, of course natural dps heroes > forced build dps.
Anyway every hero in dota CAN went dps build (you should saw my techies with 3 divine rapier boy that was gold) its just...only happens when you got farmed really good and enemies are bunch of idiots
Eh, I guess you are right. Random silliness mostly works in games that are imbalanced.
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pudge nuke build get aghanims with dismember and morph and just turn everything to STR and maybe flesh heap would be pretty fun
another really fun build is dispersion rot morph and great fortitude (or flesh golem[dirge ult] if that works?) like honestly just run up to them and keep rotting ez and get radiance and tanking items or something
also 6.73b came out recently its pretty cool
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So a game lasted 2 minutes.
Level 1 wrath of nature, get hands of midas from Lucky Time, use on big creep which gave me level 3, which gave me level 3 wrath of nature. All before creeps met each other.
8 kills later, we ended the game because I broke imba dota.