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~Beyond the Border~ => Rumia's Party Games => Topic started by: Affinity on November 06, 2012, 11:50:45 PM

Title: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Affinity on November 06, 2012, 11:50:45 PM
Who is up for a side-game of Wordless Mafia, where no reasoning is allowed, only votes?  It takes minimal effort, and could be deeply enlightening with respect to game mechanics and bandwagon analysis, and even if it turns out to be a lurkfest disaster, it would not be too injurous (I hope).  Prospective players are more than welcome to try playing.

Rules are as follows:

- 24 hour days and nights.  Majority must be reached for lynch, if not, no lynch.  Scum must NK each night.
- Setup will be open and flavourless, and will include power roles such as cop and doc, but they will be completely normal. 
- Before the game starts, there will be 24 hours of free discussion in-thread.  No one other than scum will receive their role PMs.  No votes will be recorded during this period.  Scum may also converse this time with each other in their quicktopic.
- Town Role PMs only sent with games starts.  Confirmation phase here.
- After the game starts, people will not be allowed to post any words, with the exception of ##Vote, ##Unvote,##Claim, and ##N(1) Result:  Scum will also have neither daytalk nor nightalk.
- Players may fakeclaim or claim (e.g ##Claim: Cop) anything in the open setup. They may cite their results in a list with each line as such (##N(1) Result: Targeted X, guilty/not guilty), where X stands for a player name.
- Players are allowed to quote other players' posts posted after game start, as well as the position of votes at any point in the game (even if they are not posted explicitly by the mod).  Within these quotes, players are allowed to stylize them (e.g bold, color), however they want, but they cannot add any words or stylize letters in such a way that it forms another word.  Quotes cannot be pieced together to form a sensible phrase or sentence that would include content.
- Game ends when town loses the majority.
- Mentor-newbie hydras are allowed, and strongly encouraged.

/in in-thread to signup.  Will be taking 15 players.

Signups:

1. PX
2. Polaris
3. Conqueror
4. Ralkaria
5. Serela
6. Bardiche
7. Dormio
8. ActionDan
9. Hero999
10. Raitaki
11. Shadoweh
12. BT
13. IHNN
14. Omba
15. Youkai Jesus
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Schezo on November 06, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
If no one's allowed to talk what's a mentor hydra going to do?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: PX on November 06, 2012, 11:54:18 PM
If no one's allowed to talk what's a mentor hydra going to do?

Pure votecount analysis? Idk

/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Conqueror on November 06, 2012, 11:55:22 PM
If mafia have no communication, does that mean they have a hierarchical system for kills (e.g. each mafia member sends in a kill but the one with the highest rank takes priority)?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Polaris on November 06, 2012, 11:57:44 PM
/in :derp:
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Conqueror on November 06, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
 :V
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Raikaria on November 07, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
Eh this takes minimal effort and has a 0% chance of my crackpot theories.

/in  ::)
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Serela on November 07, 2012, 12:07:55 AM
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Bardiche on November 07, 2012, 12:11:31 AM
I'll play. If I can't read people's reasoning it's sure to be less aggravating.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 12:12:30 AM
If no one's allowed to talk what's a mentor hydra going to do?

They can talk to the guy in their own separate hydra quicktopic.

Quote
If mafia have no communication, does that mean they have a hierarchical system for kills (e.g. each mafia member sends in a kill but the one with the highest rank takes priority)?

Scum have to decide the hierarchy themselves in the 24 hours they have before the game starts.  If there are two conflicting kill orders I will choose one at random to carry out.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 07, 2012, 12:31:33 AM
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Hero999 on November 07, 2012, 12:40:33 AM
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: ActionDan on November 07, 2012, 12:44:14 AM
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Raitaki on November 07, 2012, 12:44:51 AM
Hmmmmmm
/in
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Raitaki on November 07, 2012, 01:45:21 AM
Also, some questions, are we allowed to retract claims (<quote of claim goes here> ##Retract: Cop), claim another role after we've already claimed, and/or claim a non-role (##Claim: Newb)? In case the third is allowed, is it limited to just one word (no ##Claim: Scum's Target)?

In case none of the above is allowed, can players involved in a hydra claim different roles?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 03:19:47 AM
You may only claim the roles specified in the setup. Retracting is illegal, but you can claim another role as many times you wish.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Shadoweh on November 07, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
##Claim: /IN
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: BT on November 07, 2012, 05:52:05 AM
Oh my God you people are the ducks

... Mentor hydra? Go ahead and step up. I won't bite. :V
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Shadoweh on November 07, 2012, 07:51:04 AM
Did you want a spot BT? You could have my quicklynch spot :3
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: BT on November 07, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
I've always wanted to be quicklynched I don't want to take anyone's spot. This looks super fun, though, so I'll hydra with whomever.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: I have no name on November 07, 2012, 08:11:49 AM
Will take that offer up-I need to learn VCA and crap like that.

This game should run quick enough while Serela's gets set up offsite.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: BT on November 07, 2012, 08:16:30 AM
... But you didn't make signups either. :3
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Omba on November 07, 2012, 08:18:22 AM
I recommend limiting the amount of votes people are allowed to make per post. Likewise, you might want to limit the ways people can use quotes.
Theoretically, with the current rules, doing something like
Quote
Affinity
Quote
is
Quote
scum
Quote
because
Quote
he did X
would be possible.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: I have no name on November 07, 2012, 08:19:22 AM
... But you didn't make signups either. :3
?

Doesn't mean someone can't explain VCA outside the game to me using it as an example.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 07, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
You are very good at this signup thing, aren't you?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Shadoweh on November 07, 2012, 08:25:29 AM
Omba, that would only be possible if those words were in the game to quote! Which they won't be beccause no one can say them. Balance!
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 07, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
- Before the game starts, there will be 24 hours of free discussion in-thread.  No one other than scum will receive their role PMs.  No votes will be recorded during this period.  Scum may also converse this time with each other in their quicktopic.
Is anybody even reading the OP?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: BT on November 07, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
blargh
Doesn't look like a problem to me, dear. That said, Affinity could just reserve the right to fuck over anyone who decides to be abusive.
?

Doesn't mean someone can't explain VCA outside the game to me using it as an example.
I can do that. Unrelated to my desire to find a hydrabuddy, though. And you made Dormio look like a funny.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Omba on November 07, 2012, 08:38:38 AM
Is anybody even reading the OP?
Apparently not.

BT: Make a list in the pregame discussion of possible reasons to suspect people and there. People can just quote the specific and then vote the guy with the reason given in the quote.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: BT on November 07, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
BT: Make a list in the pregame discussion of possible reasons to suspect people and there. People can just quote the specific and then vote the guy with the reason given in the quote.
And that's bad? I thought that was the point. Keep in mind that these are 24hr deadlines, so it's not like there will be plenty of time for discussion anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 07, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
And you made Dormio look like a funny.
'Tis a nice edit. The original post had a /in. :derp:
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: PX on November 07, 2012, 09:02:15 AM
Uhhh, I guess I'll hydra with BT?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 09:28:20 AM
Quote
Players are allowed to quote other players' posts posted after game start, as well as the position of votes at any point in the game (even if they are not posted explicitly by the mod).  Within these quotes, players are allowed to stylize them (e.g bold, color), however they want, but they cannot add any words or stylize letters in such a way that it forms another word.

By game start, I mean after the 24 hours of pre-game discussion.  That's why pre-game is before the game.  >_>  I'll adjust the rules to include that quotes cannot be pieced together to form a sensible phrase or sentence, though.

And since, well, response has been enthusiastic and people are going to be lynched like butter under hot knives, I suppose I'll expand it to 13+ or whatever.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: ActionDan on November 07, 2012, 09:28:56 AM
is this considered pre-game or is affinity going to declare when that stage of the game happens?

I can't think of any way to exploit the system so easily.  I trust myself to convey info in a way that makes sense to everyone if applicable, even if I get a multiple target role.

double/triple posting, posting a lot at a time should be warning flags that someone is despretely trying to convey info so look out for that.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Omba on November 07, 2012, 09:32:32 AM
/in

Edit: You could also just add a rule allowing you to forbid the quoting of specific posts, or something to that effect.
But yeah, like it is now the spirit of the rule should be clear enough, anyway.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 10:44:21 AM
Okay, I'll take in 1 more signup before starting the game.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Pesco on November 07, 2012, 11:25:59 AM
No quotes in your game posts. The only things allowed in the game posts are the selected set of words, each occuring a maximum of once. Problem solved forever.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Bardiche on November 07, 2012, 11:55:06 AM
We must very stronger, okay.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: ActionDan on November 07, 2012, 02:31:15 PM
I still don't really get it.

I thought quoting posts were legal.  most of them should contain either a claim, vote, or targeted action

Like let's say I post a string of quotes that simply detail a succession of votes/unvotes/claims/targets etc.

Then accompany that with a vote.  That's fine right?
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 02:38:18 PM
@Dan: Yes.  I think pesco's advice was just a suggestion, but I believe in the quote system.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (1 Slot Left!)
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on November 07, 2012, 06:00:02 PM
/in
Because no words is my forte
/shot
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Affinity on November 07, 2012, 11:49:28 PM
Okay, signups closed.  Will try and get it up by tonight (or something).
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 07, 2012, 11:51:36 PM
Will try and get it up by tonight.
That's what she said.
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Dr Rawr on November 08, 2012, 12:30:35 AM
That's what she said.
Ill only laugh at this if it doesnt come up
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Raitaki on November 08, 2012, 12:40:12 AM
D'aw.
Was gonna say I'd be accepting hydra partners :P Oh well.

TIME TO SEE IF THE SCUMPUTER REALLY WORKS
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Affinity on November 08, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
My night is not your night.  :o
Title: Re: Mafia Side-Game: Wordless Mafia Signups (Signups Closed)
Post by: Raitaki on November 08, 2012, 05:30:46 AM
Calling it right now, I'mma do Morse code. Count the number of lines between each line with actual text in my posts. 1 line means . 2 lines means _