Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over

[Massaca]

Except surely both you and Conq cannot be town at this point?

Whay's that? And can someone unvote Serela just to be safe please?

[Raikaria]

I don't see why Conq and I can't both be town here? I mean, it's not impossible that he's scum but unless it's PoE I probably wouldn't vote that way?

What was the logic for Affinity!clear again?

Because frankly we're running out of people who are not clear or semi-clear.

[Conqueror]

I'm pretty sure SB and I are both town. I think the last scum are BT and...gasp! Raikaria.

Lynch BT tomorrow --> My hunch is that he'll have the ability that post restricted Dan, which will clear Affinity.

Raikaria is just because I'm steadily disagreeing more and more with everything he posts. And vanilla neighborizer in this setup where everyone is super buff doesn't seem very likely.

[SB]

Even if Raikaria is scum, won't it become apparent after people stop joining the QT?

Is the hunch based on the voteblock being on the same role as the post restrict? That... kind of makes sense, actually.

[SB]

Also Raikaria used the neighbour topic as a semi-thought dump place so that also suggests that he's town?

[Raikaria]

As I said before; I also know my role is the shortest one.

Also you think BT's proven investigative role is scum? Cool scum role; 'confirm a townie'.

Also to clarify the status of what we know; or at least what I know:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]

And why are we lynching Serela again; what was the evidence and who gave it? I lost it in 6 pages of nightposts.

[Conqueror]

Yeah, as long as people keep joining the QT while there's a mafia nk he's not a priority.

re: BT. It's more that I think the Dan slot is town and I'm taking a wild guess based on flavourgaming/rolegaming.

Pedit: My thinking Raikaria is scum could just be me getting annoyed at him, yeah. That said, I'm fairly sure BT is scum.

[SB]

As far as I can tell, BT's role is "voteblock 3 people, get a cop result on the third" which... isn't really likely to rack up a lot of reports, nor is the cop report provable. It also leaves him open to take the factional kill at night while still being able to prove /something/ if that's your thing.

We're lynching Serela because he practically scumclaimed lol.

[Raikaria]

I'm just trying to figure out who's ambiguous so I can invite them. I'd rather invite and speak to the grey areas at this point.

As I said before; I also know my role is the shortest one.

Also you think BT's proven investigative role is scum? Cool scum role; 'confirm a townie'.

Also to clarify the status of what we know; or at least what I know:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]

And why are we lynching Serela again; what was the evidence and who gave it? I lost it in 6 pages of nightposts.

I forgot Polly is purple

[Conqueror]

"BT's proven investigative role."
The only thing proven about his role is that he has a voteblock which is conditional.

[Raikaria]

Basically from where I'm sitting the scum are 2 of:

Conq
Bard
Massaca
Zakeri

[SB]

Zak and Bard are pretty much confirmed too, right? I think you're clearing BT (and by proxy, Oarfish) too easily.

Was Massaca claiming cop really a thing I missed? :V

[Massaca]

Affinity is not confirmed.
BT is not confirmed and because of that Oarfish in not confirmed.

[BT]

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]

Serela claimed scum.
Polly is purple.
Zak... claimed a shot on Moridin. We don't actually know more than that aside from the doc claim, but we have so many bulletproofs and roleblocks already.
Massaca could be a full action+color cop for what I know. It'd make sense for a setup with two ITPs and a third red ITP.
Bard's confirmed N2 muncher.

[Massaca]

BT Oarfish scumteam. BT proves a type of voteblock day 2 on Oarfish. Day 3 uses a different type and claims it only works on Scum. Scum pair confirmed town how?

[Conqueror]

Zak is town unless you think mafia have a one-shot vig and his explanation of why him doccing Dan N1 and knowing the protection wasn't hit made him suspicious of Chaore could be explained with something else.
Bard isn't really confirmed but I think the way he's handled his role has been town and his play as well.
Oarfish is probably town via Serela who can't stop talking. It could be a COOL GAMBIT but we can put that aside for now I think.
Massaca claimed several cop shots, dunno what the rest of his role is. I don't think he's scum either, and he makes more sense as an investigative role than what BT claimed.

Affinity is not confirmed but I like to think he's town because his posts don't make me scream noooo internally.

[SB]

Is this setup really 9/4/1/1/1? This is fucking with me.

[Raikaria]

Affinity is semi-confirmed. Unless you are saying the post restriction is town-controlled; which no-one has claimed or anything.

BT's role is confirmed. I doubt scum have a compulsive voteblock which can either reveal a scumbuddy or confirm a townie. I HIGHLY doubt it. Therefor I consider O4rfish confirmed. Especially since he claims hit.

I did forget Bard is the D2 muncher which is certainly not a scum move since it depreives scum of a nightkill.

So that leaves Massaca; Conq and Zakeri from my PoV.

[Raikaria]

Also if Actiondan's D1 restriction was self-imposed then he's too dumb to live by triggering it.

[Conqueror]

BT's role is confirmed. I doubt scum have a compulsive voteblock which can either reveal a scumbuddy or confirm a townie.

Citation is required for the notion that it can reveal a scumbuddy.

[Massaca]

^And yet it cost the no-lynch, practically made him "confirmed" and let him get off not doing anything til now.

Is this setup really 9/4/1/1/1? This is fucking with me.

NNR was pretty much a townie anyway, no? Had the ability to depower the SK and gain town information, can't win without town's help and stays to help after.

[Massaca]

First line of the above directed at Raikaria's Dan comment.

[Conqueror]

Dan had rl computer troubles so I can't fault him for not posting.

Not being able to no lynch isn't so bad either since if you no lynch you're doing it wrong.

[Massaca]

Furthermore, BT can't be proved to have hit Oarfish with the restriction yesterday. Could have hit absent Dan for all we know.

[Raikaria]

Well with the amount of informative roles in this game so far I doubt BT has a strong role.

Also his voteblock only takes effect on the hammer. Assuredly so he cannot voteblock D3/D6 to reveal someone's alignment and allow town to INSTANTLY act upon a scum being found. Seems like a balancing thing which makes no sense from a scum perspective.

Also you didn't see our discussions over who to voteblock. He seemed legitimately wanting to clear or find scum on someone rather ambiguous.

Also you didn't see BT panicking that he might have; if he voteblocked scum; made Rocks Fall.

Furthermore, BT can't be proved to have hit Oarfish with the restriction yesterday. Could have hit absent Dan for all we know.

'Can't be proven' can be applied to pretty much anything anyone says. Especially you; Conq and Zakeri.

[SB]

Zak is both the confirmed vig and the uncced doc, I'm pretty sure he's not scum. Massaca is also the unCCed Cop and I don't think there would be a miller that only messed with BT's apparent role, considering the ninja had to deal with both a tracker and a watcher.

[Conqueror]

Proven stuff in mafia: Stuff that acts with other people's roles in ways they can confirm. I can pretty much prove my role tonight, but that's doesn't prove alignment. Anyway.

Did you not see all the hemming and hawing I put into the neighborhood QT when I was scum neighborizer in Mirai Nikki? And as for the Rocks Fall thing, like I said, I'm wary that he didn't bring it up earlier when there were people who could do stuff about it, especially since at that point there was no downside to outing it.

[Massaca]

I can just about guarantee that day 1 could have happened again.
Actually on that note, Rawr lied about being able to gain powers but choose not too on day 1 didn't he? That's a bit lulz if I'm remembering right.

'Can't be proven' can be applied to pretty much anything anyone says. Especially you; Conq and Zakeri.

But you're taking it as fact.

[SB]

"Can't be proven" could also apply to BT being part cop, right?

Rawr COULD gain powers, if I got nightkilled.

[Raikaria]

Wait a second.

I just thought of something in my own role PM.

I'm an idiot. How did I not realize this earlier.

I know my role PM is the shortest in the game.

This alone should cast doubt in my mind that BT only has his single action.