Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over

[Polaris]

there's always option 3 where zak is the town vig who shot the person who fakeclaimed town vig :v

[Massaca]

You're implying mafia has two kills.

No, I'm implying Zak is a Town Vig and SB"0's proof is that he saw Zak kill.

[Conqueror]

Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.

The fact that Oarfish went along with this uncritically is one of the multitude of reasons I continue to suspect him. >_>

[Conqueror]

Oh wait, nvm, misread Zak's post. Hmm.

[Serela]

Friendly reminder I'm at l-1 and if you don't want to be eaten alive you shouldn't join the wagon right now! I know it's weird but we're actually down to a normal number of players and it doesn't take 8 votes to lynch anymore.

Conq:From the viewpoint Zak is town (I take the viewpoint of him being scum right now, given my vote, esp. since I grant town an extra kill, but we'll see where the fullclaim goes I guess) that'd only be one mafia kill but.

If Zak claimed town vig would you believe him?

This was supposed to vaguely imply my role (e.g. "BECAUSE I WOULDN'T", somewhat implied from the lack of me ever unvoting Zak) since I foresaw perhaps needing to use it as evidence against him post-claim if he wasn't getting lynched (but I figured he'd be getting lynched and it wouldn't be necessary) but in hindsight it was really badly thought out and really doesn't look like a crumb at all  :fail:

Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.

I think this is an overreaction to Zak's post but I also don't really want to argue against my counterwagon >_>; Especially considering I do think Zak is scum. Oh nevermind cut by your redaction.

[Conqueror]

If Zak is a town vig, where was his N1 kill?

[Serela]

Oh that's a pretty good point. He talked about visiting Polly/Chaore for something... on one hand JOAT-type vig is really strong on secondhand it wouldn't be -that- weird for this setup where you have self-reviving roleblockers.

Okay I reread and there was only a reaction to it, not a claim he visited them. And the suspicion was very understandable in hindsight since "no nk, they couldn't act? I seeeeee" so I really shouldn't have soft-cleared zak for it before welp

[Conqueror]

"I suspect Chaore because he was blocked last night" <-- Zak's softclaim yesterday,

Someone please explain how this fits with Zak's claim that he's a vig.

[Conqueror]

Well I guess JoaT would make some sense. But now that I remember what he said yesterday I'm interested in hearing the rest of it.

[WHMZakeri]

You're implying mafia has two kills.

but mori was pink, not red?

i only have one shot

fullclaim: komachi
kill mori with scythe, too lazy too kill again
also, doctor: if i protect, i don't have to do other job.
N1 protect dan
Confirmed by  mod: Dan was not hit
Therefore, suspected chaore because protection was not used=kill was blocked some other way.

[Massaca]

Conqueror (1): Anon
Serela (4):  Bardiche, Polaris, Oarfish, Affinity (L-2)
Zakeri (3): SB, Raikaria, Serel

If Zak is a town vig, where was his N1 kill?

Coulda hit NNR or coulda hit Dorian. Could have a second ability and the vig is a one-shot.
Ok I was cut a couple times cause ai went to double check the votes and oh neat.

Almost considering the flavour reason for scum Serela now :ohdear:

[Conqueror]

hmm, zak's claim checks out with his behaviour yesterday.

I would be down with a Serela lynch I guess.

[WHMZakeri]

Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.

The fact that Oarfish went along with this uncritically is one of the multitude of reasons I continue to suspect him. >_>

what?

[Conqueror]

You're reading several posts behind. :V

[Serela]

Okay after Conq gave up I'm not sure if I have anyone on my side anymore ;_;

You know, Polly had a cool plan where you (or polly) check me to identify/make sure I don't have night actions like I claimed, which is a pretty good plan since night actions are compulsive!

[WHMZakeri]

i know,
but super confuse.
was that joke?

[Conqueror]

Also, I think Zak --> Moridin, Moridin --> Oarfish, mafia --> rawr is more likely than what was posted before. Mostly because regenerating roleblocker is a pretty op town role, and the mafia is going to hit a tracker who is most likely town through ninja flip rather than a cop confirmed town who is relatively more lynchable can always be suspected due to ~*godfather*~.

Pedit: I'd rather check other people. The only reason the checking you plan was considered was because I wanted to lynch Zak.

[Polaris]

I kind of don't know who to lynch anymore :ohdear:

[Conqueror]

i know,
but super confuse.
was that joke?

Nah, I saw you posting in internet grammar and stopped reading there the first time around. :v

[Serela]

 :fail:

Polly come on let's lynch Zak.

[Massaca]

So Zak, you can doc every night?

[Conqueror]

Also, I just realized that the kills flavours seem to match up with the characters, especially if Serela is scum. >_>

Maybe we should mass character claim.

[Polaris]

more like, the only ones whom I don't know the character of are BT/Massaca/Conq :v

[Conqueror]

I'm Satori.

I'm suggesting mass character claim because my role gives me the name of the ability used. So people can't lie about their characters. And if they don't lie, the kill flavour will make it obvious who did the kill.

Game broken, gg. Was fun.

[Polaris]

cf7 can just as easily switch to not-obvious kill flavors for the remainder of the game if he thinks that's too broken :V

[Conqueror]

then let him do that.

[Affinity]

I'm Marisa!

[Polaris]

wait, who did o4rfish roleblock N3? was that answered?

[Affinity]

Thoughts!!!!!!

I should have died D1! 

I don't think Zakeri's scum if Serela is scum.  Serela went after Zakeri from D1 onwards even when it was not so cool to do so, while Zakeri went for Serela D2 onwards.  With Schezo's death N1, the possibility of mutual bussing among scum is really low.  So I think Zakeri is a pretty safe townie-read!  (not to mention his role seems pretty good)

o4rfish, Bardiche have spectacular roles to die for; they've used easily confirmable townie roles which seem unthinkable from a scum perspective!  As winners of the lottery they should stand aside from everyone else!

Polaris, claiming ITP from Massaca's testimony, can never be scum if Massaca is not scum, so in all cases Massaca should be considered first!

So this leaves:

03. BT
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
12. SB
14. Conqueror
16. Affinity

as potential candidates for tomorrow!

[Serela]

Okay yeah Affinity is talking like I've already flipped scum, I pretty much give up. The instant I claimed I've been treated like obvscum, except by Conq who only recently gave in to that. And as it's due to my claim, and not my play, there's not really much I can do about it; not that I know what I'd do if I -was- going to try to keep scumhunting, because honestly, I have a townread on every single person alive right now.

##Vote Serela

Whoever wants to commit suicide can hop on the Serelatrain to the graveyard!