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Title: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: PX on August 31, 2014, 11:36:12 PM
OP Stolen.

Welcome to Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia.

It was a day like any other day in Gensokyo. But one morning, when its residents woke up, they noticed one very unusal detail. All of them now see the world in black and white plus one color. Looks like that different color perception is random, but after some investigation into the matter, people started to notice a pattern. So some of the residents of Gensokyo organized a group of concerned people and and started their research. After some time they came to a conclusion, that it all leads to people who see red color. And they are most likely behind this incident. So you are going to find this group of people, probably beat them up in the process and hopefully everything will return to normal after that.


Rules.
00. I am the law and my word is final. Sky_Paladin is my co-mod and his word is also final.
01. Blue color text is reserved for the mod.
02. Everyone has the Basic Rights ability, i.e. the right to post in the thread and vote during the day phase. This ability is not listed in your role PM.
03. This is a Role Madness game i.e. each role has one or more abilities other than the Basic Rights.
04. The game is not bastard. All information in the role PM is true, there are no hidden modifiers. Cops, if any exist, are guaranteed to be sane. There are no random role effects in the game. There's no Captain Planet role or its analogues in the game.
05. LyLo will be announced.
06. Everyone is compulsive and can use only one night action during the night, unless specified otherwise.
07. Mafia must kill every night. One mafia player can use Faction Kill ability instead of one of their abilities. For balancing reasons Faction Kill ability type is set as (x).
08. You can't use (-) type ability on the same player twice in a row.
09. Day phases will last for 72 hours. Night phases will last for 24 hours. No extensions will be given.
10. Do not discuss the game outside of the game's thread, unless there's QT specifically made for that.
11. You can ask the mod any questions you may have via the PM. There's no guarantee that all questions will be answered.
12. Do not quote your role PM or any private discussions with the mod.
13. Do not edit your posts.
14. If you for any reasons will be absent from the game for lengthy periods of time, notify the mod in advance.
15. Lynch requires a simple majority (half the players number rounded down +1). If there's no majority by the end of the day phase, then no one will be lynched and the next night phase will begin.
16. You may No Lynch once. Second No Lynch will result in Game Over. And by that i mean everybody loses.
17. Votes must be formatted in this way. ##Vote Player. Same thing for unvotes.
18. Once the player gets majority of the votes, all further votes/unvotes are invalid.
19. Once you receive the message that you're dead, you can no longer post in the thread. There will be a special Graveyard QT provided, where you can talk to other dead players.
20. If you are lynched you can write one "bah" post during twilight i.e. between the hammer and the flip/next night phase announcement.
21. You can not talk during the night phase.
22. Violation of the rules gets you one way ticket to the Garden of the Sun for some special fun time with Yuuka and by that i mean a modkill.
23. If by some chance a player gets modkilled, day automatically ends without a role flip and the next night phase begins.
24. Play to your win condition.
25. Try to stay civil.
26. To sign up for the game, pick a number from 1 to 16. Each number corresponds to the specific role in the game.
27. And last, but not least. It's just a game. Have fun.

Still at the Hakurei Shrine.
01. Chaore Polaris
02. Dr Rawr
03. BT
04. Moridin84
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity

Sightseeing at Myouren Temple Cemetery.
07. Schezo, Alice Murgatroyd. Became a spirit on N1.

Sightseeing at Myouren Temple Cemetery.
0. CF7. Died on N0 from a bullet.
11. Dorian, Seija Kijin. Lynched on D2.
15. NekoNekoRex, Reimu Hakurei. Lynched on D3.

Chronology.
Day 1 start. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1121003.html#msg1121003)
Day 1 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1121782.html#msg1121782)
Day 2 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1122687.html#msg1122687)
Day 3 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1123734.html#msg1123734)
Title: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 01, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
It's a new day. The good day. The BEST DAY. Because it's the day DIE.
Still warm half eaten corpse was found at the top of the stairs to the shrine. Someone recognized it as Dr Rawr. Looks like the infamous paparazzi has finally meet her end.
Quote
Aya Shameimaru. Tengu Reporter.
You are tengu paparazzi and publish you own newspaper in Gensokyo - "Bunbunmaru Newspaper". You are always looking for the latest scoop and stop at nothing to be there first. You are one of the fastest youkai in the Gensokyo.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (I). Investigation. At night you can spy on one of the players and see whom the targeted player visited this night. If the player targeted you during the night phase, you know the type of the ability the player used.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Double Spoiler. You know that Hatate Himekaido is in the game. She is your rival of sorts. If Hatate dies, during the night phase you can use her ability instead of yours.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.

Near the donation box were discovered another body. It was slashed in two. The body belonged to Moridin84. He was...
Quote
Yuyuko Saigyouji. Ghost Princess of the Netherworld.
You are Yuyuko Saigyouji de facto ruler of the Netherworld. Your main ability is quite simple. You can kill anything that can be killed with a thought. You almost never use this ability.
Actually, shortly before the incident began, Yukari visited you and asked you to participate, and if you remember her exact words correctly, she asked you "to make the things interesting".
Alignment color - Pink.
Night Abilties.
1. (x). Invitation to the Netherworld. Kills your target. Any bulletproof abilities work as usual.
Target doesn't die, instead that player becomes a spirit (there will be an in-game flip, as if the target was killed normally). Spirits lose all their abilities and their day vote, if they shared a QT with other players, they're excluded from that QT. The only thing they can do is to post in the thread. Spirit player counts as a dead player for the sake of determining the majority needed for the day lynch.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Watchful spirit. One of the spirits watches over you at night. You are informed if someone visited you during the night. Automatically active if you have 1 or more spirits around you.
2. (+). Spirit protection. One of the spirits protects you during the night, blocking one kill attempt directed at you. If protection is successful the spirit leaves the game and goes to the graveyard. Automatically active if you have 2 or more spirits around you.
Day Abilities.
1. (?). Spirit control. You can order one of the spirits to vote for any player. Spirit's vote counts as a normal vote in the votecount. You can use this ability if you have 3 or more spirits around you. Voting spirit goes to the graveyard after the day phase ends.
Win condition.
You win when you are the only player left alive (excluding your spirits) in the game. If there are any spirits left in the game they're are considered winners with you as well. All spirits go to the graveyard upon your removal from the game.

For some reason Schezo just melted into thin air.

Day 4 begins.

With 11 alive you need 6 votes to lynch someone.

You have 72 hours (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140904T2359&p0=166) to do that.

Still at the Hakurei Shrine.
01. Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB
13. Serela
14. Conqueror
16. Affinity

Enjoying their stay in the Netherworld.
None.

Sightseeing at Myouren Temple Cemetery.
00. CF7. Died on N0 from a bullet.
11. Dorian Lynched on D2.
15. NekoNekoRex Lynched on D3.
02. Dr Rawr. Was found half eaten on N3.
04. Moridin84. Was bisected on N3.
07. Schezo. Became a spirit on N1. Finally found rest on N3.

Chronology.
Day 1 start. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1121003.html#msg1121003)
Day 1 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1121782.html#msg1121782)
Day 2 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1122687.html#msg1122687)
Day 3 final vote count. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1123734.html#msg1123734)
Day 4 start. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17319.msg1123971.html#msg1123971)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 07:43:04 PM
So; me and BT were thinking there was a chance Mordin was a SK. Turns out we're right. Yay.

Need time to talk with my new friend. Since me and BT have both claimed we decided to go for someone a little less clear.

Speaking of Clear; O4rfish is that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 07:44:40 PM
Also did Zakeri say he'd explain that list thing he posted D3 today? Looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 01, 2014, 07:46:03 PM
Conqueror still has one vote on him, by the way.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 07:47:12 PM
Also it seems this is a 10/4/1/1 setup?

So right now there's 7/3. A mislynch today is MYLO tomorrow. [Which is basically LYLO since we can't NL]

Except someone killed the SK too. Did mafia do that? But then who killed Rawr? He never became a spirit.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 07:49:18 PM
(He said it was a PoE list).

He did say he was going to say something about roles or something though.

I'm a little lost because now I have too many townreads. And Moridin flipped pink instead of red, meaning still 3 mafia left.

BT, why didn't you mention the possibility of universal loss before I left yesterday? Or did you do that and I missed it?

Edit: If I had to guess, mafia killed sk, sk killed rawr, and cf7 got lazy with flavour. I really doubt there's another kill running around.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 07:50:46 PM
But Rawr is specified as half eat...

Oh wait Yuyuko.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 07:51:20 PM
An they're both mentioned as being at the foot of the shrine.

Yeah Yuyuko killed Rawr.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 08:02:02 PM
Though seriously, don't target me.  :colbert:  Town would lose a vote.
Also why was this your response to Massaca wanting to redirect you?

I'm a little annoyed because I thought BT protecting oarfish was a scum gambit given I think BT would have emphasized the rocks fall thing before I left, but my night actions were pretty inconclusive.

##Vote: Serela ???

Will need to reread Polly, and I also think there's a good chance Zak is godfather, but that can wait I guess. Hope Affinity's posts will be insightful.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 01, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
It's a livin', vote count.

Votes.
Conqueror (1): Everyone's Grudge.
Serela (1): Conqueror.

Not voting.
Polaris, BT, Zakeri, Massaca, Raikaria, O4rfish, Just, SB, Serela, Affinity

With 11 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch someone.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 08:18:14 PM
Oh yeah so you guys know I invited SB last night.

Because he's pretty ambiguous and maybe he'll be more open in the QT or something. And he DID ask for it during D2.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 01, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
Thank god I have a guilty so I don't have to scumhunt.

##Vote: Zak

Hint: I'm the opposite of Rawr's role.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 01, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
Oh wow Morodin was actually SK.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 08:29:15 PM
Thank fucking god.

##Unvote
##Vote: Zak
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 08:32:23 PM
Wasn't Zak inno'd by Massaca?

Conq: I misunderstood what Massaca was saying and thought he wanted to kill me with Moridin's kill. As for universal loss, it didn't seem like it was going to happen, and I made it clear I voteblocked Oarfish so I thought it'd be fine.  :matsuriscowl:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 01, 2014, 08:34:24 PM
I didn't even see Massaca innoing Zak? I guess I caught the Godfather then wow.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
I'm very confused but apparently my Zak read was wrong AGAIN and that makes me sad :C
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 08:37:02 PM
Conq: I misunderstood what Massaca was saying and thought he wanted to kill me with Moridin's kill. As for universal loss, it didn't seem like it was going to happen, and I made it clear I voteblocked Oarfish so I thought it'd be fine.  :matsuriscowl:
Oh, okay. :V Makes more sense.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 08:40:59 PM
Also, atm based of what I remember of the game Serela would be my next lynch after Zak.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 08:44:52 PM
BT: so did your voteblocking shenanigans confirm O4rfish as town? ?_?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
##Vote Zakeri
Okay, I get it now.

Based on this Oarfish is probably 1000% clear because this game cannot possibly have more cop-fuckery roles. (Cut: Yeah Polly.)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 08:56:59 PM
#Vote: Zakeri

How surprising. The lurky person who hardly did any real scumhunting all game is scum.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
honestly i'm very confused because i was expecting to come into this day with a clear on zak thanks to massaca's clear, and a townread of serela for entertaining my "let's lynch moridin" segment... but apparently zak is confirmed scum and. since moridin wasn't actually scum, serela isn't townreadable, so idk

not to mention all this role nonsense B(
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Also I severely doubt that SB is lying since it dosen't seem like a legitimate time to do so for scum [He'd just get lynched D5] and he was asking to join my QT during D2; probobly wanting to use me as Proxy for outing his reports.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:06:49 PM
#Unvote

I need to ask a role-related question about my own role to the mod to confirm if SB is telling the truth.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 09:08:03 PM
Any doc should flip a coin in between Bard and SB tonight.

I doubt SB is lying because his town game reads pretty differently from his scum game to me. At least in this game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:09:34 PM
i think i figured out the flavor for this game :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 01, 2014, 09:09:40 PM
I just realized my only other night report doesn't actually make sense.

Thanks CF7.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:11:28 PM
To be more specific since the clash is unimportant:

SB claims BT was visited by no-one Night 1.

However I invited BT to my quicktopic N1.

But my role doesn't actually state if it counts as a visit. In fact the symbol for my invite is a ?, which may denote different treatment to other roles.

If it does SB is lying about his role. [Or CF7 messed up]
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:13:02 PM
i think i figured out the flavor for this game :v

re: this, I'd like Bard to confirm if he's actually an ITP, and if so, what color he's supposed to be.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 09:13:25 PM
Confirming I wouldn't have anything to interfere with it either. If SB is lying about it he would have had to completely forget about the QT invite, and why would he lie about it anyway?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 01, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
CF7 just confirmed it was an error so we're good.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
CF7 just confirmed it was an error so we're good.

Confirming; CF7 has posted in our Quicktopic this.

#Vote: Zakeri
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 01, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
Eh... It's been a rough day. I'll go to sleep before i do something well... Harmful...
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 09:22:57 PM
(Pretty sure Bard was kidding about being an ITP.)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
that is why I am asking him to confirm B(
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 09:29:26 PM
Oh we have a guilty okay? Bye SK bye SK-counterer (sorry nnr you were town's savior against Yuyuko it turns out) thanks scum let's lynch you.

I dunno I'm just trying to think of something else to say so I'm not just "Guilty? 'k." But. That's pretty straightforward.

##Vote Zakeri

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:31:26 PM
I think that's L-1. Maybe someone should unvote? B( unless we want a quicklynch
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
Oh you're right that's five yeah.

I'unno would a quicklynch really be that bad? If Zak claimed town vig would you believe him? I mean the other possibility is Zak claims "I have no idea what happened sorry" or "SB must be lying". Since apparently SB is a watcher who only saw Zak target Moridin if I'm interpreting this stuff right.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 09:34:40 PM
Since apparently SB is a watcher who only saw Zak target Moridin if I'm interpreting this stuff right.
and the untraceable nk scum already flipped n1
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
##Unvote
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Okay okay I get the picture </3 I just like quicklynches

...that aren't on me
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
we should quicklynch serela tomorrow
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
Do we have a real reason to wait on lynching confirmed scum?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 09:43:52 PM
re: this, I'd like Bard to confirm if he's actually an ITP, and if so, what color he's supposed to be.

No, I was being cheeky. I'm green.

Please do not lynch and get out of L-1 completely. Getting confirmation for my ability; unless someone claims the vig, it may be that my Slowing Down Chaore on N1 stopped the NK. Then on Night 2, I ate the night so it was skipped. On Night 3, Chaore's Night 1 ability resolves. I'm checking whether Polaris was right (ability is held hostage and he cannot act Night 3), or whether Scum could submit another Night kill in conjunction with the one that's Slowed Down.

The ramifications are obvious, I hope.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 09:46:27 PM
To make it clear:

Night 1, I targeted Chaore.
Chaore used Ability X on Target Y.
Due to my ability, Chaore's Ability X resolves on the next Night.

Night 2, I eliminated the night.
Due to my ability, Chaore's Ability X resolves on the next Night, as this one is skipped.

Night 3, Chaore's Ability X resolves.

I'm asking the mod what's true:

Assuming Chaore is Scum and submitted the Night Kill:
1) On Night 3, Chaore's Nightkill on Target Y resolves. Scum can submit a Night Kill for this Night phase.
2) On Night 3, Chaore's Nightkill on Target Y resolves. Scum cannot submit another Night Kill for this Night phase.

I asked one more to better understand the ability, but role shenanigans may well clear or condemn Chaore's slot here.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
The ramifications... the rawr kill is Polly's? Did the spiriting away plain not happen in that case?

That would mean we caught two scum during the act, on the same night, and it would be incredible.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
?_? I thought moridin ate rawr, and then was killed by scum?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:50:08 PM
True; but the flavour of the kills seem to strongly suggest Yuyuko killed Rawr. [Aya was Half Eaten; both found dead in the same place...]

Also we know Yuyuko is complusive with kills like every role is complusive so unless dying cancels the SK shot we're missing a kill.

Also odds are Schezo shot for scum N1. What with him being a ninja. Maybe he got blocked; maybe the SK kill takes precedence. We don't know why the N1 kill failed yet but I think it's safe to assume Rawr died to Mordin.

I don't think there's much to discuss today after D3 really [Where we were already pretty much scrapeing the bottom of the barrel for things to discuss]. Which is why I'm fine with a quicklynch here. We have confirmed scum. I guess we could talk about potential scumbuddies but there's the obvious Massaca there if he dosen't flip some sort of Godfather or something.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 09:51:27 PM
##Unvote
Sure, let's do this role stuff.

Bard: My role tells me that Polly didn't do the nightkill on N1.

I think someone else has info about N1 based on what I got last night but I don't know why they haven't come forward with it yet.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:52:18 PM
Also odds are Schezo shot for scum N1. What with him being a ninja.

^ This means the second kill tonight probobly was not Bard's time delay.

Especially since I REALLY doubt Rawr's slot would have been targeted by scum Day 1.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 09:53:55 PM
##Vote: Polaris.

I died last night. Of course, I'm a fairy, so I respawned.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
?___________________________________?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
It's fairly obvious from schezo's role that he performed the N1 nightkill. Saying other people might have done so is pretty pointless; and saying people have not done so it equally pointless.

A reminder of Schezo's role:

Alice Murgatroyd. Seven Color Puppeteer.
[REDACTED]
Alignment color - Red.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Invisible Wire ~ Be the Puppet. You control one of the players during the night. They perform their night action on the player of your choosing.
2. (+). Hanged Hourai Dolls. You protect your group with 1 time bulletproof protection for the duration of the night. You can not use this ability for the next two nights after the successful use.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Little Legion. You're master puppeteer and your dolls do all the work for you. Because of this, your nightkills are untraceable.

2. (?) An Unlikely Alliance. You share a common goal and can talk with your team.
Win condition.
You win, when everyone other than the members of your team is dead, or when there is nothing that could prevent that from happening.

Bolded is the part which basically says Schezo did the N1 nightkill. Especially since it's passive. Invisible Wire seems silly to use with no information and the same with Hanged with the 2 turn cooldown and no information.

##Vote: Polaris.

I died last night. Of course, I'm a fairy, so I respawned.

Wait what.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
My ability works thus:
- Target's Night 1 action resolves on the next night.
- Night 2 skipped.
- Polaris's Night 1 action resolves and takes up his action for this night.

He can't swap targets or change the action he's using so that makes it uh, a lot more potent than I thought! The theory with scum was answered with an "I dunno" and "that's weird theoretical shit", so I'm going to assume that means Polaris was, indeed, not responsible for any nightkills.

I tend not to read into flavour too much but if we're actually going to be able to use that then awesome!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 09:57:27 PM
Also wait this means there were 3 nightkills?

Or did Bard actually delay the nightkill and Schezo just randomly used Wires on someone N1?

OK; so we have TWO confirmed scum now?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:00:26 PM
Just to note, I didn't Delay anyone this night. I took some other action (for science!), but:

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07. Mafia must kill every night. One mafia player can use Faction Kill ability instead of one of their abilities.

Anyone with verifiable night actions is evidently not the one responsible for killing that Night, which means every night Raikaria invites someone into his QT is a night that evidences he did not perform the NK. This is why I deigned not to delay Raikaria.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
Also if we lynch Zak first; we end up with this:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Remember Day 1]

And if we lynch Polaris first and he's scum we end up with this:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity

So; assuming both results are true; we go into D6 with:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity

Meaning the final scum is between Massaca; Serela and Conq.

And if Zakeri does not flip Godfather or similar Massaca is basically confirmed scum too.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 10:03:30 PM
Mis-coulored Zakeri on that final list. He should be red.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 10:04:19 PM
Of course, just because they didn't kill on one night doesn't mean they can't kill on another night. So keep on your toes!

re: the whole flavor thing - probably not actually as usable as I thought, so I'll probably just think about it on the side.

Raikaria: did you miss the part where I'm not confirmed scum `_`

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:05:56 PM
I shouldn't be confirmed Town to anyone, the only verifiable thing we have is that I'm not responsible for the N1 kill (as Polaris attested I hit him with my ability), and that Polaris is not responsible for it either.


Polaris: Scum must kill. My ability just confirms you're not responsible for any NKs thus far. That, or the O4rfish's claimed death and third (?) kill are uh... insane?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
Oh wait did I get things muddled?

O4rfish died and respawned and you said you delayed Polaris. Doesn't that mean that Polaris' kill on O4rfish [Or Rawr] could have been delayed?

We have a 3rd kill unaccounted for.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
I understand why there couldn't have been a second kill from the delay, but why did it confirm Polly as not-the-killer?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 01, 2014, 10:09:47 PM
Also I doubt O4rfish is lying about being hit. Confirmed town and all.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:10:55 PM
Oh, you mean that wrt people having verifiable night action results. Yeah, true. I think as we continue play and hunt scum the good old fashioned way we'll get there naturally.

We need words from Affinity to make us feel good about the ActionDan slot (at least I do), and before launching into quicklynching we should figure out O4rfish's claim's ramifications and that tonight, apparently, three kills were submitted. Also, NNR's flip teaches us that there are 3 more red-aligned players, so we shouldn't sit on laurels yet with the current role events.

I understand why there couldn't have been a second kill from the delay, but why did it confirm Polly as not-the-killer?

That'd imply on Night 1, Scum chose to submit the kill on Rawr/Moridin/O4rfish? I guess it's still possible, just unlikely?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
It could be that someone killed Dorian n1 but he didn't notice.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
I think the easiest resolution is to treat my role as not being evidence of anything right now (since it isn't responsible for multiple kills yet), and only lynching Polaris/Chaore based on their (scummy) actions. An explanation for the disappearing NK on N1 can always surface later.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
I'm getting really confused.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
##Unvote
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:20:05 PM
Serela:

- SB has role information results that heavily imply Zakeri as Scum.
- I delayed Polaris's Night 1 Action which resolved on Night 3, but it doesn't result in multiple kills when used this way. (note: role results are inconclusive)
- O4rfish claims having been killed but immediately respawning on Night 3.
- O4rfish points out Dorian's ability blocks any (x) ability used against him. The Night Kill is an (x) ability. Dorian might have been the N1 NK target, thus further providing that my role's results are inconclusive.

That should sum up page 2.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 10:24:21 PM
Ooooooooooh okay I understand what's going on better now.

Since there's 3 kills (I don't understand why o4rfish would lie unless the scumteam is like BT/O4rfish/Zak, which... is... admittedly not impossible that would actually be an amazing and hilarious gambit, but I digress) I'm more interested in actually seeing what Zak has to say.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
I think an Affinity post is also useful.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
I'm more interested in actually seeing what Zak has to say.

clearly we should quicklynch zak now that serela isn't raring for a quicklynch anymore `_`
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Let's quicklynch Serela. (╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
I think an Affinity post is also useful.
I keep forgetting this slot even exists >_>

Also hey ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 01, 2014, 10:40:05 PM
I just woke up and haven't read anything but the flips. First of all, nice that I don't need to bother voting Moridin now though i expected him to not die and there to be only 1 kill.

Secondly, I lied about my role last night. I have a second cop (it is a one shot but I can use it twice) so my question to Polaris is why did I get a purple result on you?

And now I'm off to bed for like another hour so reading after.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
Quote
Polaris is why did I get a purple result on you?

(╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
(╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
(╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
(╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
(╯?Д?)╯︵/(.□ . )
(╯?Д?)╯︵ ǝʌol
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 10:46:01 PM
b/c i'm itp lol
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 01, 2014, 10:49:55 PM
9/4/1/1/1?

What?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
b/c i'm itp lol

( ̄^ ̄)尸

(http://i.imgur.com/uoHcduZ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/VSn4q67.png)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 10:55:49 PM
Polaris state wincon and night actions in order for your application to the Don't Lynch The Harmless ITP Foundation to be considered. Gotta make sure your application is legit.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 10:57:30 PM
http://youtu.be/Wmc8bQoL-J0?t=50s
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
What do you claim your Night Action to be?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:04:51 PM
Yukari Yakumo (purple)

Basically I win as long as I'm alive and the game ends.

My night ability lets me gap a target. This roleblocks the target, and also roleblocks any other actions directed at the target. I also learn the type of action the target wanted to use. Chaore gapped Dan on N1 while he was in charge, and we all know how that turned out. Except that it still failed on N3 for some reason??? So basically my night activities amount to a total of zero.

I have a day ability where I can learn the flavor of anyone I target. This is what's fueling my flavor investigation. :V

I also have a secret third ability which I would prefer not to claim but I'll do so if you ask nicely.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:09:58 PM
So I was right about your power being a roleblock. Although why did you say you had no useful info about N1 given this?

Also Oarfish, the same question goes for you. Are you sure you don't have any useful info about N1?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:10:18 PM
So does anyone else want to come out and claim ITP? 工エエェェ(;╹⌓╹)ェェエエ工
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:11:34 PM
I died last night. Of course, I'm a fairy, so I respawned.

I would also like clarification on this. This is a joke, right?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
Well I specifically said:

Quote
I don't have any information that will help us find the scum. I'm not going to out the particulars of my role unless there's a good reason.

I didn't think claiming "I have a roleblock" or "someone delayed my role N1" was particularly useful info ?_?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:14:08 PM
Oh wait Bard said Polly would be informed that he was delayed. Question to Oarfish still stands though.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 11:19:22 PM
I would like people who haven't provided any information to claim, at least in part.

BTW Conq, I'm Cirno. I don't have information-gathering, but I do have fairy-respawning.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
ooh ooh can we popcorn claim? I want serela to claim :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:22:09 PM
Oarfish: I'm talking about the ability you used last night. Presumably you also used it N1.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
I'm

I'm

Guess who I am

It's pretty cool

Look to your left

Also mean glare face at O4rfish but I'll let you settle that out yourself.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 01, 2014, 11:29:32 PM
Couldn't get back to sleep and it's been an hour anyway >_<

Quote
- O4rfish points out Dorian's ability blocks any (x) ability used against him. The Night Kill is an (x) ability. Dorian might have been the N1 NK target, thus further providing that my role's results are inconclusive.
Or Schezo dhot NNR which I get the feeling could be more likely.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 01, 2014, 11:30:32 PM
So apparently I've gone after a Godfather (which I defended lulz) and an SK and another ITP...
The fuck?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:33:16 PM
Massaca can you clarify what you did with your role n1?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:33:46 PM
Actually I feel like you've already said this but there's SO MANY ROLE SHENANIGANS GOING ON we need some kind of handy dandy list keeping track of all this.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 01, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
"Hey CF7, I have this ability that tells me the alignment colour of a player, that's pretty neat. What colour is Zak?"
"green"
"K cool."
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 11:35:51 PM
Serela, your turn.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
Oarfish, answer my question dammit.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 11:40:41 PM
Also Oarfish, the same question goes for you. Are you sure you don't have any useful info about N1?
No, I am not sure I don't have any useful info about N1.
Is that the question you wanted me to answer before Serela
and the rest of people who haven't given out any flavor or role information
should claim?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Claimed ITP doesn't get to pick who claims next. Survivor ITPs aren't even players, they're just parasites.  (。-`ω?-)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:41:57 PM
In fact we haven't even agreed we want to massclaim, why would we do that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
for the record, I only really asked serela to claim now so that we can quicklynch him later without worrying about it :>
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:44:13 PM
In fact we haven't even agreed we want to massclaim, why would we do that.
Yeah you should be happy I told you I'm Rumia, o4rfish.

Especially considering it's, like, you. :C
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:45:01 PM
No, I am not sure I don't have any useful info about N1.
Is that the question you wanted me to answer before Serela
and the rest of people who haven't given out any flavor or role information
should claim?

I'm saying, why would you not come out and claim who you roleblocked N1 on D2 when there's a missing kill N1?

Pedit: I think the scumteam is actually Zak/Oarfish/BT.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:45:21 PM
Survivor ITPs aren't even players, they're just parasites.  (。-`ω?-)

also I'm offended by this, and I demand an apology. :C
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:45:54 PM
Also the fact that I also have a bulletproof sort of ability and that would make at least 3 townies with that, along with however many itps have it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:47:08 PM
Okay fine o4rfish roleblocked me he's a jerk and he froze me in an ice block all night and I didn't get to thaw out until morning ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:48:01 PM
also I'm offended by this, and I demand an apology. :C

ψ(*`ー?)ψ
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:50:07 PM
I knew it was O4rfish the whole time because d1 he said he was Cirno.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 01, 2014, 11:51:01 PM
hey guys
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 01, 2014, 11:51:51 PM
well if o4rfish roleblocked someone N1 that might be a hint as to what happened to scum's NK `_`

*intentionally ignores affinity's greeting*
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:52:27 PM
Affinity has posted, everything is clear now!

Hilariously O4rfish claims Cirno in the same post that he slams ActionDan for claiming early.

Serela are you scum
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:53:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b2mBaNM.png)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 01, 2014, 11:53:28 PM
Also why was this your response to Massaca wanting to redirect you?
I'm a little annoyed because I thought BT protecting oarfish was a scum gambit given I think BT would have emphasized the rocks fall thing before I left, but my night actions were pretty inconclusive.
(Vote: Serela) ???
Will need to reread Polly, and I also think there's a good chance Zak is godfather, but that can wait I guess. Hope Affinity's posts will be insightful.
Also, atm based of what I remember of the game Serela would be my next lynch after Zak.

Curious about how you got from here to scumpicking Zak BT and me, Conq.


Bard: those two things seemed different to me, at the time.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:54:06 PM
well if o4rfish roleblocked someone N1 that might be a hint as to what happened to scum's NK `_`
Except he would have claimed or hinted at it like for instance Bard did.

Although Serela saying that Oarfish's roleblock makes it obvious who it is kinda puts a dent in my theory, along with the fact that no one claimed being roleblocked.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 01, 2014, 11:55:24 PM
what's up
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:55:40 PM
Curious about how you got from here to scumpicking Zak BT and me, Conq.
I thought you and BT were scum last night. I put you two on the backburner because I thought it was paranoia but the way you opened the day with talk of fairy regeneration and voting Polaris like it was role info makes me suspect that you are in fact full of it.

Who did you roleblock N1 and why didn't you push on them when you saw there was a missing kill N1?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 01, 2014, 11:58:07 PM
let me draw up a gigantic mind-map and i'll get back to you guys by bed asap
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:58:25 PM
Who did you roleblock N1 and why didn't you push on them when you saw there was a missing kill N1?
CONQ I JUST SAID IT WAS ME DO YOU THINK I LIED? :C

I didn't claim being roleblocked because O4rfish claiming cirno d1 for no reason made it seem unlikely he was scum, so I didn't want to introduce unnecessary and unhelpful role shenanigans into the game.

I didn't actually think about the part where the missing nk made it INCREDIBLY SUSPICIOUS on my end of being roleblocked.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 01, 2014, 11:59:13 PM
Oh wait, but who did O4rfish roleblock n3...?

Oh Conq probably thought that's what I meant.

No, I was the n1 target.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 01, 2014, 11:59:33 PM
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I didn't actually think about the part where the missing nk made it INCREDIBLY SUSPICIOUS on my end of being roleblocked.

Of course you didn't think about that, everyone tends to forget how their actions are incredibly incriminating.

##Vote: Serela
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 01, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
Oh, whoops. Lemme reread Oarfish's D2 play with that in mind, brb.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 12:00:13 AM
BT, what were the effects and rules of your Day 2 vote block on Oarfish?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:01:32 AM
Okay, Oarfish barely touched on Serela on D2. So I want to know what his thoughts were after he roleblocked Serela N1 and after there was nokill, he decided to pursue Raikaria on a bunch of weird stuff instead.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:02:49 AM
I think considering the fact that we now know about like three or four(?) different people who wouldn't have died on being shot, that me being roleblocked n1 is not necessarily indicative of me being scum!

BT claimed O4rfish is town, so if o4rfish is s-oh wait yeah then they'd both be scum right. Bard did have a good case about BT scum before iirc. Also everyone else is town ITP >.>;
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 12:04:44 AM
Okay, Oarfish barely touched on Serela on D2. So I want to know what his thoughts were after he roleblocked Serela N1 and after there was nokill, he decided to pursue Raikaria on a bunch of weird stuff instead.

Everybody in this game has active and passive abilities. On d2, I didn't think rolespeccing the game was as telling as finding weird stuff.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 12:07:13 AM
God, everyone is fucking red in this game. NNR's PM clearly lied, there are ten red players.


Serela that is pretty ballsy of BT in that case. O4rfish could just be Cirno-level Town who doesn't do the logical thing and investigate whether his action interfered with the NK.

Cut by Cirnofish. So you're saying you saw absolutely no relation between you blocking someone of unknown alignment and then night kill not showing up? Like, none whatsoever? To the point of not even mentioning Serela who had a non-zero chance of having gone on the NK and getting roleblocked?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:09:44 AM
asdlfkjadslkfj

mafia is way too hard

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:10:40 AM
he did mention serela some, but not as much as I reckon someone in his position would do.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:11:12 AM
01. Polaris - the best itp in the world
03. BT - voteblocking with side effects?
05. Zakeri - THE SCUM?
06. Massaca - cop and redirecter?
08. Raikaria - neighborizer
09. O4rfish - bulletproof + roleblocker
10. Just - role delay + nightskip
12. SB - watcher
13. Serela - ???
14. Conqueror - ability type identifier + bulletproof-ish?
16. Affinity - ???

popcorn claim serela
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
Polaris if you claim your final ability I'll dogeza style apologise and I'll be good to you tonight.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:15:06 AM
Well, I'll go do something else for now and look through Zak interactions later. I'll note that Zak made a case on Oarfish, said he didnt want to vote yet because he was still in doing iso mood, and later didnt do any isos and jumped on the NNR wagon anyway. Oarfish only makes slight pokes at Zak throughout the game as well.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:20:07 AM
well here are some hints for now. it's one-shot, it's conditional, and it'll be very obvious when it gets used. `_`
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Polly:I'm not sure Massaca actually has a redirect after all? He claims having copped both nights. Bard also claimed having some other mysterious action. BT claimed his voteblock is also apparently a cop.

Anyway. I'm a bomb. Or a vengeful? Uh, somewhere inbetween? No wait, I think this is called a Super Saint.

If I'm lynched, whoever hammers gets eaten alive as they walk into my darkness to do the deed, more or less. But I can't overcome the mob coming to kill me after because I'm only Rumia ;_; Isn't it sad, Rumia.

This role makes a lot of sense to me after I see how many different roleblocks and bulletproofs are floating around this game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 12:27:45 AM
well here are some hints for now. it's one-shot, it's conditional, and it'll be very obvious when it gets used. `_`

sort of like the end of D1, eh?

Cut by Serela having a super-fake-sounding ability
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 12:28:24 AM
BT claimed his voteblock is also apparently a cop.
He also claimed he blocked Oarfish both day 2 and day 3. Day 2 Oarfish's vote didn't count but day 3 it did.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
Massaca:That's how he claimed it worked. He said if O4rfish was green his vote wouldn't be blocked d3.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:30:48 AM
serela: do you not have any night actions ?_?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 12:31:14 AM
Yes but Oarfish's vote was blocked on day 2. Note the final votecounts.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:34:12 AM
Great, now I almost want to drop everything I said about Oarfish and BT and lynch Serela instead after that claim.  :V Bard is right, you're all scum.

Serela, is that your entire role?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:35:05 AM
Yes but Oarfish's vote was blocked on day 2. Note the final votecounts.
This is BT's #970
Quote
Ah fuck it. If scum have utilities that can block the voteblock it's all the better because universal loss sucks. My voteblock today is color-sensitive and will fail on players with alignment color green. Oarfish demonstrated no voteblock immunity yesterday and is generally hard to place a read on so I thought I'd cop that one. If Oarfish is town, there's no danger of rocks fall. Some situation this turned out to be. If we don't get an extra vote it's either 8 or 7 in the final count.

Cut by another cop shot. I don't know anymore.
He says "today" it's color sensitive, and that the previous day he made sure o4rfish wasn't immune to voteblocks.

Although I mean if you want to talk about super-fake-sounding roles that's really weird, compared to a role that's actually something that's some kind of standardized (super saint isn't seen on motk much but it's a known role) but w/e. This game has lots of creative roles so I wouldn't doubt BT off of his voteblock cop. For other reasons though sure.

Yes that is my entire role.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
A point in favor of BT's cop being real is that Raikaria was talking about it from D2. So either it's genuine or it was planned way before it happened on D3.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 12:35:47 AM
Serela chooses not to reveal roleblock and "conveniently" forgets how incriminating that is. Only the last part is actually scummy as there's good reasons not to claim getting roleblocked sometimes. (Never a good reason to justify not doing it with "well it wasn't because I didn't want to incriminate myself!")

Moreover claiming wouldn't have been incriminating since No Scum Ever Claims Being Roleblocked From NKing, so it feels like Serela has a guilty conscience.

The convenient "hammer me and die" here is also ?.?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:37:27 AM
The convenient "hammer me and die" here is also ?.?
I... I didn't mean it like that, I don't even have a wagon on me ;_; Why couldn't I have been the self-reviving roleblocker instead
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:38:44 AM
Quote
(Never a good reason to justify not doing it with "well it wasn't because I didn't want to incriminate myself!")
No, I said it was because I knew it was o4rfish and since he claimed cirno d1 for no reason I figured it was more likely he was town.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 12:40:05 AM
@Serela: re voteblock,
Ah right, that didn't stick in my mind at all. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:41:02 AM
well what's bizarre is that you got a roleblocked flavor message even though there's apparently nothing to roleblock? although it might just be cf7's decision as a mod to make the roleblock blatant, so the point is moot ;v

clearly we should force zak to hammer serela.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:41:55 AM
implying zak will do it and not leave us to rocks fall when deadline hits
implying zak will post at all

:V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:43:06 AM
the obvious flaw in the strategy was the joke B(
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:44:06 AM
self-reviving roleblocker
Quoting this because holy shit that role sounds so powerful. Scum can nightkill you to get rid of you, and then you still hang around to block their actions.

Curious, O4rfish if you were lynched would you still revive? Or is it only for nightkills? Not going to ask if it has multiple activations or anything for obvious reasons.

Polly:It's kind of hard not to notice being frozen in a block of ice overnight, to be fair.

Conq well there's still two more scum left after that so I don't think they'd rocks fall over losing one :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 12:45:24 AM
Serela: just to be clear, you are claiming not to have an active ability at all?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:47:15 AM
No, I don't. Normally I'd be amazed people think I should have more powers than MURDERDOOMing someone, but this game really delivers on the role madness.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 12:52:17 AM
O4rfish for thorough claiming reasons I'd like to re-ask that you clarify whether your revival would have worked if you had been lynched instead of nk'd.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 12:52:59 AM
Why, are you planning to lynch me?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
we should lynch o4rfish
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 12:57:06 AM
phone post
i am moridin kill
i am green
therefore, other kill must not be green, therefore kill
be home tomorrow afternoon
if no one believe, willing to get eaten by rumia since extra lynch
please wait warml
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 12:58:58 AM
if oarfish was targetted by a kill last night, where did the kill come from? mafia having two kills in one night? it can't be from polly being delayed  because I know what polly did n1 and polly is confirmed itp so you know I'm not scum with him or anything.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 01:00:22 AM
That's probably where Moridin's kill went then?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:00:38 AM
then who killed rawr?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:01:04 AM
the plot thickens
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 01:01:18 AM
Moridin apparently killed Rawr.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 01:02:59 AM
Serela. Since Rawr was eaten and Rumia eats people.
Iunno. Are we taking flavour as legit leads?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 01:04:52 AM
Joking by the way.

But seriously,
Zak kills Moridin
Moridin kills Rawr
Scum shoot confirmed town Oarfish?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:06:30 AM
##Vote Serela

if zak's willing to go for the "serela supersaint" strategy then i'm all for it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:07:37 AM
See, the thing is, -I- don't like this plan :C It involves losing a townie when we could just lynch scum instead.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
But seriously,
Zak kills Moridin
Moridin kills Rawr
Scum shoot confirmed town Oarfish?

This sounds legit to me.

See, the thing is, -I- don't like this plan :C It involves losing a townie when we could just lynch scum instead.

##Unvote, vote: Serela.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 01:10:32 AM
FoS: Conqeror
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:11:04 AM
well strategy 2 is that we can let you live and either me or conq checks overnight to see if you do have a night action
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:12:22 AM
I like that plan a lot!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:18:57 AM
01. Polaris - the best itp in the world
03. BT - various voteblocks?
05. Zakeri - vig?
06. Massaca - cop and redirecter?
08. Raikaria - neighborizer
09. O4rfish - bulletproof + roleblocker
10. Just - role delay + nightskip
12. SB - watcher
13. Serela - supersaint
14. Conqueror - ability type identifier + bulletproof-ish?
16. Affinity - ???

expecting a fullclaim from zak once he gets the chance. affinity should totes claim too since he's the last one left but it's really up to him if he wants to :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:19:12 AM
I also like the plan where you lynch me in lylo so I can smite the other person too and everyone can be happy C: Well that's if we make it to 3/4p lylo but technically we could do it earlier
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 01:20:49 AM
We can't let you live to LYLO, Serela.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 01:21:31 AM
Playing mafia again after a year makes me realize why I stopped.  man I think I forgot almost everything!  Let me try and remember, reminiscence, what scumhunting meant in the good old days!  what hallowed values the average townie stand by in moments of crisis and deliberation! 

Well!

Quote from: Serela
This role makes a lot of sense to me after I see how many different roleblocks and bulletproofs are floating around this game.

This sounds really off.  Why not 'my' role? 

See, originality!  Weeeeeeeeee! 

As some spice, I would say that Schezo's move away from Serela early D1, as SB pointed out sagely here (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17271.msg1121304.html#msg1121304) adds to this impression.

I discount other stuff and all other opinions.

##Vote: Serela

On all other role issues I go the middle road, not the off-beaten track where shrooms are involved.  I believe o4rfish is town, and that o4rfish was probably shot by scum.

I am merely roleplaying.  More after a dinner of.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:25:55 AM
it occurs to me that rawr and o4rfish are both terrible choices for a claimed vig to shoot, so i can't help but wonder what the hell moridin was planning on doing if he wasn't killed :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:27:51 AM
Joking by the way.

But seriously,
Zak kills Moridin
Moridin kills Rawr
Scum shoot confirmed town Oarfish?

You're implying mafia has two kills.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:29:47 AM
How this?

Option one: Mafia has a one-shot hitman. It would be Serela in this case for the flavour reasons Massaca mentioned. Serela didn't use it night 1 because he was frozen and so used it last night.

Option two: Oarfish is full of it.

I could go for a Serela lynching tomorrow pending how things go tonight.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:30:53 AM
##Vote Serela

if zak's willing to go for the "serela supersaint" strategy then i'm all for it.
##Unvote, vote: Serela.

Where are my vigs.

Also, oarfish, you want to point fingers at me? Bring it on.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 01:31:31 AM
there's always option 3 where zak is the town vig who shot the person who fakeclaimed town vig :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 01:31:53 AM
You're implying mafia has two kills.
No, I'm implying Zak is a Town Vig and SB"0's proof is that he saw Zak kill.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:32:59 AM
Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.

The fact that Oarfish went along with this uncritically is one of the multitude of reasons I continue to suspect him. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:33:52 AM
Oh wait, nvm, misread Zak's post. Hmm.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:34:55 AM
Friendly reminder I'm at l-1 and if you don't want to be eaten alive you shouldn't join the wagon right now! I know it's weird but we're actually down to a normal number of players and it doesn't take 8 votes to lynch anymore.

Conq:From the viewpoint Zak is town (I take the viewpoint of him being scum right now, given my vote, esp. since I grant town an extra kill, but we'll see where the fullclaim goes I guess) that'd only be one mafia kill but.

If Zak claimed town vig would you believe him?
This was supposed to vaguely imply my role (e.g. "BECAUSE I WOULDN'T", somewhat implied from the lack of me ever unvoting Zak) since I foresaw perhaps needing to use it as evidence against him post-claim if he wasn't getting lynched (but I figured he'd be getting lynched and it wouldn't be necessary) but in hindsight it was really badly thought out and really doesn't look like a crumb at all  :fail:

Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.
I think this is an overreaction to Zak's post but I also don't really want to argue against my counterwagon >_>; Especially considering I do think Zak is scum. Oh nevermind cut by your redaction.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:36:13 AM
If Zak is a town vig, where was his N1 kill?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:41:48 AM
Oh that's a pretty good point. He talked about visiting Polly/Chaore for something... on one hand JOAT-type vig is really strong on secondhand it wouldn't be -that- weird for this setup where you have self-reviving roleblockers.

Okay I reread and there was only a reaction to it, not a claim he visited them. And the suspicion was very understandable in hindsight since "no nk, they couldn't act? I seeeeee" so I really shouldn't have soft-cleared zak for it before welp
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:42:45 AM
"I suspect Chaore because he was blocked last night" <-- Zak's softclaim yesterday,

Someone please explain how this fits with Zak's claim that he's a vig.

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:43:51 AM
Well I guess JoaT would make some sense. But now that I remember what he said yesterday I'm interested in hearing the rest of it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 01:48:21 AM
You're implying mafia has two kills.
but mori was pink, not red?

i only have one shot

fullclaim: komachi
kill mori with scythe, too lazy too kill again
also, doctor: if i protect, i don't have to do other job.
N1 protect dan
Confirmed by  mod: Dan was not hit
Therefore, suspected chaore because protection was not used=kill was blocked some other way.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 01:50:07 AM
Conqueror (1): Anon
Serela (4):  Bardiche, Polaris, Oarfish, Affinity (L-2)
Zakeri (3): SB, Raikaria, Serel


If Zak is a town vig, where was his N1 kill?
Coulda hit NNR or coulda hit Dorian. Could have a second ability and the vig is a one-shot.
Ok I was cut a couple times cause ai went to double check the votes and oh neat.

Almost considering the flavour reason for scum Serela now :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:50:50 AM
hmm, zak's claim checks out with his behaviour yesterday.

I would be down with a Serela lynch I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 01:51:46 AM
Zak can't be a town vig; he's already trolling the thread as claimed mafia.

The fact that Oarfish went along with this uncritically is one of the multitude of reasons I continue to suspect him. >_>
what?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 01:52:22 AM
You're reading several posts behind. :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 01:58:18 AM
Okay after Conq gave up I'm not sure if I have anyone on my side anymore ;_;

You know, Polly had a cool plan where you (or polly) check me to identify/make sure I don't have night actions like I claimed, which is a pretty good plan since night actions are compulsive!

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 01:59:38 AM
i know,
but super confuse.
was that joke?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 02:00:07 AM
Also, I think Zak --> Moridin, Moridin --> Oarfish, mafia --> rawr is more likely than what was posted before. Mostly because regenerating roleblocker is a pretty op town role, and the mafia is going to hit a tracker who is most likely town through ninja flip rather than a cop confirmed town who is relatively more lynchable can always be suspected due to ~*godfather*~.

Pedit: I'd rather check other people. The only reason the checking you plan was considered was because I wanted to lynch Zak.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 02:01:58 AM
I kind of don't know who to lynch anymore :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 02:02:04 AM
i know,
but super confuse.
was that joke?
Nah, I saw you posting in internet grammar and stopped reading there the first time around. :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 02:02:52 AM
 :fail:

Polly come on let's lynch Zak.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 02:04:10 AM
So Zak, you can doc every night?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 02:06:33 AM
Also, I just realized that the kills flavours seem to match up with the characters, especially if Serela is scum. >_>

Maybe we should mass character claim.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 02:09:04 AM
more like, the only ones whom I don't know the character of are BT/Massaca/Conq :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 02:12:59 AM
I'm Satori.

I'm suggesting mass character claim because my role gives me the name of the ability used. So people can't lie about their characters. And if they don't lie, the kill flavour will make it obvious who did the kill.

Game broken, gg. Was fun.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 02:16:54 AM
cf7 can just as easily switch to not-obvious kill flavors for the remainder of the game if he thinks that's too broken :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 02:21:08 AM
then let him do that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 02:34:09 AM
I'm Marisa!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 02:57:04 AM
wait, who did o4rfish roleblock N3? was that answered?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 03:29:02 AM
Thoughts!!!!!!

I should have died D1! 

I don't think Zakeri's scum if Serela is scum.  Serela went after Zakeri from D1 onwards even when it was not so cool to do so, while Zakeri went for Serela D2 onwards.  With Schezo's death N1, the possibility of mutual bussing among scum is really low.  So I think Zakeri is a pretty safe townie-read!  (not to mention his role seems pretty good)

o4rfish, Bardiche have spectacular roles to die for; they've used easily confirmable townie roles which seem unthinkable from a scum perspective!  As winners of the lottery they should stand aside from everyone else!

Polaris, claiming ITP from Massaca's testimony, can never be scum if Massaca is not scum, so in all cases Massaca should be considered first!

So this leaves:

03. BT
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
12. SB
14. Conqueror
16. Affinity

as potential candidates for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:04:49 AM
Okay yeah Affinity is talking like I've already flipped scum, I pretty much give up. The instant I claimed I've been treated like obvscum, except by Conq who only recently gave in to that. And as it's due to my claim, and not my play, there's not really much I can do about it; not that I know what I'd do if I -was- going to try to keep scumhunting, because honestly, I have a townread on every single person alive right now.

##Vote Serela

Whoever wants to commit suicide can hop on the Serelatrain to the graveyard!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:07:38 AM
I have a townread on every single person alive right now.
except bt

with the state of townread everyone else is in, I'd lynch BT immediately actually

I forgot that part because he doesn't exist, as usual.

But given how everything is going I highly doubt that's going to occur.

Well I guess I can see the reaction overnight because I need to go to bed in a minute anyway.

##unvote ##Vote BT
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:15:05 AM
I wouldn't say it's not due to your play. You had a budding wagon on your yesterday and I was going to open today with you until the Zak thing popped up. >_>
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Sky_Paladin on September 02, 2014, 04:15:26 AM
Tally of the mod using paper and an old original iPhone to do the update

The reason my soloing is bad is because I cannot see what I a typing. Here goes.

Serela on 5 votes, l-1.
Just, Polaris, Oafish, Affinity, Serela.

Zak on 2 votes
SB, Raikaria

Coma on 1 vote
Anon

Timer: about 3 days.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:21:36 AM
I'll try and do a reads reset tomorrow because even with Serela scum my only other pick for scum would be BT, as Oarfish would be doubly confirmed town via roleblock/cop and everyone else is a mixture of town (or Polly) from roles and play.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:22:25 AM
Okay well, at the least, there was very little interest in lynching me over Zak until my claim!

Okay yeah no nevermind I tire of this song and dance. It's so very hard to fakeclaim when town has all of the powers already and all the roles have like three different superpowered faucets. I might have been okay if I hadn't gone "Uh, o4rfish wants something out of me and since there's so many claims already it's probably justified... HI I'M RUMIA?" Then all the powers that would have made sense with Rumia were already covered by  Dorian's role, all the other claimed/flipped roles... dear god, town is grossly OP, and the fact that half of it's tassled in ITPs doesn't make a huge difference. Yes o4rfish is town, big surprise, the self-reviving roleblocker is real. No I'm kidding I just lied about my scumbuddy blocking me publically so that I ended up painting a big red X on my face and having to claim. Totally.

Let's just get this over with. I'm going to go crawl over and eat the rest of Aya's still-warm body as my final meal. One of you just come over and hit me in the back of the head real quick to make it easy. ;_;

##Vote Serela
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:24:09 AM
(We should finish character massclaim before hammer.)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:24:58 AM
SO CRUEL YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME SUFFER. :C
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:32:51 AM
Affinity's exclamation-point style of posting makes him ten times more fun to read than anybody else.

oh wait did serela just claim scum
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:34:00 AM
serela, did oarfish block your kill n1? :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:36:55 AM
i guess watcher/doc/whatever between bard/sb/oarfish then? oarfish please dont block me, I copied your roleblock and I kinda want to use it. :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:37:18 AM
the fun part of role madness games is the dangan ronpa-style "here is the truth behind all the mysteries!" catharsis at the end
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:37:24 AM
ebwop: and zak.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:38:26 AM
I copied your roleblock and I kinda want to use it. :V
as it would prove my night action!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:38:32 AM
anyone i should concentrate my super roleblock powers on :v
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
question to Massaca, is there a reason why you chose Polaris as your cop target the previous night?

i forgot what role stuff Ralkaria had or has can someone fill me on that?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:40:02 AM
raikaria is a neighborizer. only a neighborizer, apparently. he neighborized bt+nnr n1, and then sb on n3 I think?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 04:40:53 AM
raikaria has claimed neighborizer. he neighborized nnr and bt n1, and sb n3. cut

op says mafia can use factional kill in lieu of one of their abilities so as long as people have confirmed actions we know they're not doing the nk. and mafia have to do the nk, so yeah.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 04:41:35 AM
A guess from PoE.

I'll be back in about an hour. Don't lynch Serela before then please. Any other questions I'll get back to them.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 04:41:52 AM
^To Affinity
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:42:46 AM
serela, did oarfish block your kill n1? :V
NO ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 04:44:03 AM
scum's gonna have to stuff themselves with shrooms soon man!  (if everything that has come to light is indeed white)

just found out that my assumption on Polaris' out doesn't hold if he's a godfather that returns purple to cops.  but i think it's not worth considering that for now.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:45:03 AM
btw who roleblocked me on night 3 anyway
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:59:49 AM
In high school I overheard some people talking about how they lost one of their friends in the woods whilst tripping on shrooms

I think they were missing for a couple days?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 05:01:25 AM
die serela die!

##Unvote
##Vote: Serela

yeahhhhhhh  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:03:56 AM
##Unvote
##Vote Serela
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 05:20:29 AM
You people are all having fun messing with me aren't you ;_; I know you were already voting me! I knoooow.

It's not nice to taunt scum. Think about it. Our NK was subverted night one. Our NK was skipped N2. O4rfish REVIVED on n3, which whether it was our kill or not, still really hurts. It's... it's not even close to lylo. We had a member nightkilled whilst helpful nightkills were prevented every, single, night.

I won't go into a single detail that will hurt the chances of my faction winning, but you should feel bad for the scumteam. Really. :C
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:25:10 AM
Affinity 2009: (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,1128.msg48522.html#msg48522)
Quote from: Affinity
@Roukanken:

I still don't see what is wrong with praising Dorian to further a line of questioning against Serp, but ho well, I can only convince so much.  Also, while I did not acknoledge his bad points in this topic, his bad points were, again, pretty clearly raised by everyone else and thus I don't see why it is a reversal.  The backtrack you cite is imaginary.  And raising an original point is far better than jumping on votes and regurgitating reasoning, that much is certain.  And why am I scummy for being able to understand literature?  It was a valid point to discuss; you're not putting that into consideration.

Same goes to pesco; why bother raising points everyone else has raised?  It was fairly obvious that he wasn't scumhunting by the point of D3.

Reason why I did not vote for NF was because I wanted the day to last longer and was icky about giving him a chance to self-hammer; he did look suicidal after all.

I did not vote pesco for the exact same reason.  Did not vote anyone else because my lynching choice was with him, and you were prodded because your issue was serious; you had nothing on anyone other than pesco at that time.  I could have voted Kiro of course, but it was only his scumhunting techniques I was not satisfied with, which is far more minor.

You are also far too forward in your assumptions that Sodium is scum; you seem to be basing much of your cases against me and Serp around it.  Yes, I understand that he made a contradiction, which is scummy in itself, but that's just as bad as accusing us of not being suspicious of Sodium, if you didn't really include other reasons.

---

I feel that the number of words Zakeri uses is disproportionate to the actual effectiveness of his posts.  I have also suspected him since D2, and it feels that his D3 actions have only deepened my suspicion.  Adding to Serp's case, I think that page 14 is a scummy oddity here, not only does he attack Serp for rather arbitary reasons (saying that he had yet to do anything of significance beyond 312 is a baseless accusation), he also engages in faulty attack against Roukanken, sort of turning around is turnaround and engaging in WIFOM (as sodium said, trying to be a psychaitrist isn't very convincing here). 

Thus, he is currently at the top of my list now.  On the upside, I sense some scumhunting, especially since he did not choose the easy lynches, but the reasonings are lacking.

---

I think Carthrat has been more passive in this game than active, to be honest, especially later in the game when pesco was about, and when he could say the obvious.  I don't think he made any actual contributions in terms of questioning, and while he provided solid opinions on already existing stuff such as the Sodium debate, I felt that he could have done more.  Who he thinks is scum now seems to be quite important in my judgment of him.

---

Sodium has been scummy so far for two things; his AtE late D3 on a line of questionin I did not fully endorse, which was surprising, as well as his sudden switch with regard to Nietz on D2.  There was also Dorian, but the impression I got from his Day One actions were slightly town with a shade of uncertainty.  Even so, I like that he has been questioning people like me on issues that seem original enough, which is quite a good improvment on his previous play.

What is not satisfactory, however, is the fact that his questionings don't really seem to go anywhere in terms of scumhunting; he also seems to be easily appeased (in the case of Nietz, for example).  I'm not willing to judge much on benign AtE, to be honest with everyone, so I'm willing to give that a sort of pass.  Again, I would like to see how he follows up on Zakeri today, as well as his opinions on everyone else.

---

I seem to be getting good vibes from Serp; would need more time to reread him.

Affinity 2014:
die serela die!

##Unvote
##Vote: Serela

yeahhhhhhh  ;)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 05:27:02 AM
Now you understand the pain of bulletproof jailkeeper/roleblocker/doctor. I'm still surprised that is actually a role in this game.

Pedit: It would be interesting to see one like that for a lot of players. Like I know my play has changed a lot over the years.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 05:29:57 AM
##vote ser-uh...
Eh.

And no, Oarfish didn't claim his target last night. He really should though >:/
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:32:07 AM
darn it conq that wasn't a serious comparison of past and present posts, it was supposed to be humorous B( where's your sense of humor
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 05:34:46 AM
Humor is just the whimsical side of truth.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:36:05 AM
also it occurs to me that i started motk mafia before conq :ohdear:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 05:36:23 AM
I thought it was obvious what I did n3.
I turned Serela into a frozen frog.



Just like in n1.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:36:47 AM
wow

poor serela
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 05:37:54 AM
In which case Serela couldn't made the kill last night.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 05:39:43 AM
What.

FLAVOUR, HAVE YOU FAILED ME???

DAMMIT CF7 :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 05:40:30 AM
Thank god I have a guilty so I don't have to scumhunt.
(Vote: Zak)
Hint: I'm the opposite of Rawr's role.

Did you forget we have a 1v1? Either SB or Zak made the kill.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 05:40:44 AM
Although I don't know why Serela wouldn't have known whom Oarfish targetted last night in that case.

Perhaps Oarfish dying negated his action.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 05:41:24 AM
Zak claimed Vig. SB watched Morrisson, whom Zak vigged. Checks out with the rest of Zak's claim, the flavour, etc.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 05:42:22 AM
Is this Morrison thing gunna stick?
Like, damn.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:47:25 AM
Oh yeah Massaca who's your character claim btw?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 05:48:17 AM
Not yet.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 06:10:28 AM
Raikaria. What is the super secret surprise.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 06:11:23 AM
Also have you asked BT whether he put the PR on the Dan
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 06:13:05 AM
although I suppose Hatate might be able to do something like that too ... although it would fit Aya a little better ...

Bard, who's your character? Sakuya? Kaguya? Keine?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 06:14:01 AM
Everybody in this game has active and passive abilities. On d2, I didn't think rolespeccing the game was as telling as finding weird stuff.

I do not have a passive ability. Only active. Also CF7 said I win the award for shortest role PM in my role PM. All I do is neighbourise.

This actually makes me somewhat doubt Celery is 'All I do is vengeful'.

Also seriously we have confirmed scum on someone who's been scumy all game [Zakeri] and a messed up lynch would give us another confirmed scum [SB] to lynch D5; and we're going after Celery?

Half-eaten flavor also fits Yuyuko. At least fanon Yuyuko. And the two were found close to each other. That said; apparently Yuyuko was beheaded and beheading a ghost is quite the accomplishment so???

You guys know I am Toyosatomimi no Miko.

Raikaria. What is the super secret surprise.

There is no super secret surprise today. I've been sleeping and there's been 6 pages of content.

Also have you asked BT whether he put the PR on the Dan

D1: Zakeri
D2: O4rfish
D3: O4rfish
D4: He's not posted in the QT except for 1 post talking about purple since I went to sleep. In fact he's been asleep too apparently.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 06:14:21 AM
I'm guessing Keine for the whole 'I ate N2'.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 06:14:47 AM
1v1 with Zak/SB resolved kind of, but lynching Serela comes first since Serela claimed Scum. Self-voting Scum, the worst kind of it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 06:15:49 AM
Also 9/4/1/1/1 is a second What The Hell Mod after Dorian's role.

1v1 with Zak/SB resolved kind of, but lynching Serela comes first since Serela claimed Scum. Self-voting Scum, the worst kind of it.

Serela didn't claim scum?

How was Zak/SB resolved?

I'm confused I just woke up I read this and none of it makes sense.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 06:17:03 AM
Zak claimed doctor with a one-shot vig. It matches his crumb for suspecting Polly D2, and the flavour matches as well.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 06:17:23 AM
Okay well, at the least, there was very little interest in lynching me over Zak until my claim!

Okay yeah no nevermind I tire of this song and dance. It's so very hard to fakeclaim when town has all of the powers already and all the roles have like three different superpowered faucets. I might have been okay if I hadn't gone "Uh, o4rfish wants something out of me and since there's so many claims already it's probably justified... HI I'M RUMIA?" Then all the powers that would have made sense with Rumia were already covered by  Dorian's role, all the other claimed/flipped roles... dear god, town is grossly OP, and the fact that half of it's tassled in ITPs doesn't make a huge difference. Yes o4rfish is town, big surprise, the self-reviving roleblocker is real. No I'm kidding I just lied about my scumbuddy blocking me publically so that I ended up painting a big red X on my face and having to claim. Totally.

Let's just get this over with. I'm going to go crawl over and eat the rest of Aya's still-warm body as my final meal. One of you just come over and hit me in the back of the head real quick to make it easy. ;_;

##Vote Serela

I dunno, that seems to be a claim of Scum.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 06:19:32 AM
Uuuuugh this is what happens when I try to read mafia at 7am after being woken up by trucks coming by earlier than they are allowed.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 06:20:38 AM
used to think mafia was some sort of cool debate.  now it's just a game.  that's the mark of wisdom earned only with the passing of years.

I'm in Canada!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
Serela: I remember lamenting over Town's powers as Scum in one game, then Town tricked itself into believing I was ITP, and my role saying "Fuck you" to roleblocks turned out to be so incredibly overpowered it wasn't even funny.

Morale of the story: don't give up so soon on seeing Town's (claimed) powers next time!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 06:44:41 AM
This game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 06:46:56 AM
I kind of want to massclaim outright because it's very obvious scum don't have good fakeclaims? And uh, did Polly claim third?

ALSO SERELA I FEEL YOUR PAIN I WILL NEVER FORGET THE BULLETPROOF JAILKEEPER
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 07:12:48 AM
01. Polaris - claimed Yukari
03. BT - vote blocker, so Shikieiki?
05. Zakeri - sword vig, so Youmu?
06. Massaca - cop, so ???
08. Raikaria - Toyota ears
09. O4rfish - Chiruno
10. Just Bard - Saguyeine
12. SB - Hatate
13. Serela - x_x
14. Conqueror - spellcard thief, so Marisa?
16. Affinity - claimed Marisa ???
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 07:24:27 AM
Just reclarifying. I'm Satori. I copy the abilities a person uses on a particular night, and I can use them afterwards. I'm also hated and have a one-shot immunity against x.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
Conqueror, do you have to use the ability you copied in the next night or can you copy another one?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 07:26:34 AM
01. Polaris - claimed Yukari
03. BT - vote blocker, so Shikieiki?
05. Zakeri - sword vig, so Youmu?
06. Massaca - cop, so ???
08. Raikaria - Toyota ears
09. O4rfish - Chiruno
10. Just Bard - Saguyeine
12. SB - Hatate
13. Serela - x_x
14. Conqueror - Sattery
16. Affinity - claimed Marisa
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 07:43:26 AM
Conqueror, do you have to use the ability you copied in the next night or can you copy another one?
Both. I can copy a new ability and use the one I copied the night before. Although I can only use the latest copied ability.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 07:44:11 AM
Do they both have to be on the same target?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 07:44:46 AM
nah. Last night I copied Oarfish and used Polaris' ability on BT.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 07:45:39 AM
Huh, interesting.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 07:50:50 AM
Oarfish, Zak claimed Komachi.


Just go over this and tell me why it's wrong.

Raikaria QT'd SB
SB saw Zak kill Moridin
Zak killed Moridin
I copped Polaris
Polaris gapped Affinity but failed due to questionmarks
Conqueror mindread Oarfish and blocked BT

Oarfish supposedly froze Serela and supposedly got shot/hit/whatevs

Bardiche did something for science?
BT? Got blocked?
Serela did something scummy (supposedly not the kill despite the flavour) but supposedly got blocked.
Affinity? Ascetic?


So assuming Oarfish is telling the truth about dying, Polaris is telling the truth about targetting and failing on Affinity and Conqueror is truthful about blocking BT then the scum kill had to have come from either Bardiche or Affinity?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:11:40 AM
I think the scumkill came from Serela and Oarfish's roleblock didn't go through for some reason.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:12:40 AM
EBWOP: Since Serela legit seemed to have no idea that Oarfish targeted him last night. Compared to him blurting out that oarfish blocked him n1.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 08:23:03 AM
Conq
Massaca
SB

One of these is probably scum infoperson. Conq, how  can you use two night actions at the same time?

Voteblocking, uh, SB. Getting it in before hammer.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:33:52 AM
Because my role allows me to? :V
(You'll note there's no rule against it)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 08:36:59 AM
06. Everyone is compulsive and can use only one night action during the night, unless specified otherwise.

Unless specified otherwise. Okay then.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 08:37:53 AM
I question the point of that rule if it can just be handwaved like that though. ???
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:39:56 AM
Oh, I missed that part. Well, "unless specified otherwise" implies that the possibility is there, at least. Either you believe me or you don't.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:40:54 AM
If Serela is actually vengeful and eats whoever hammers who's gonna hammer?

I personally don't want to lose my quicktopic and everything. Kinda vanishes when I die. And my QT is USEFUL.

I guess we should make someone who isn't clear hammer. Maybe Massaca.

And wait SB isn't cleared? Right.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
Uh, Serela claimed scum so I wouldn't really worry about him being actual vengeful. Scum supersaint is, well, dumb.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:42:14 AM
So is town reportstealer miller.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:42:32 AM
So is town reportstealer miller.

Who dies if Docced.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
If Conqueror and I live through the night he could prove it then by copying me and freezing someone else.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 08:44:01 AM
I'm pretty sure if I had scumbuddies to share my reports with, I would've noticed Raikaria not showing up on my watcher reports before. I don't really think it's Conq either from play either. I seriously think we should just massclaim at this point and break the game on roles. Scum is going to have a hard time killing when they have to go through Oarfish/Bard and me using Rawr's track.

I wouldn't say scum Vengeful is impossible here but Conq is apparently bulletproof anyway so he can just hammer it, right? That's practically another clear if Serela DOES flip vengeful since Schezo had the scum!Doc iirc.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:45:10 AM
(It's a modified bulletproof that protects against ability x. So if Serela is a scum supersaint and that ability is x then yes I would survive it)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
Oarfish apparently revives so he should hammer.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:46:11 AM
me using Rawr's track.
er, what?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 08:47:07 AM
Probably the opposite of Rawr's role?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
Massafect outed Polaris as ITP, so either they're the two last scum, or Massaca really is a cop
and Scum Cop would be pointless even with all these ITP, so Massaca is fairly clear.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 08:48:49 AM
I already said, I have the opposite of Rawr's role. When one of us dies at night the other can use their investigation, so I can choose between tracking and watching. Mine is probably better normally but the sheer number of ways to catch or interfere with the kill might make tracking worth it?

Alternatively I just watch Zak, I guess.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 08:49:17 AM
Warning - while you were typing 16 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post, vote count.

Votes.
Conqueror (1): Everyone's Grudge.
Zakeri (2): SB, Raikaria                                 
Serela (5) Just, Polaris, O4rfish, Affinity, Serela   L-1

Not voting.
Zakeri, Massaca, Conqueror, BT,

With 11 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch someone.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
Ohhh. I forgot about that part of rawr's role.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:49:52 AM
I'm pretty sure if I had scumbuddies to share my reports with, I would've noticed Raikaria not showing up on my watcher reports before. I don't really think it's Conq either from play either. I seriously think we should just massclaim at this point and break the game on roles. Scum is going to have a hard time killing when they have to go through Oarfish/Bard and me using Rawr's track.

I wouldn't say scum Vengeful is impossible here but Conq is apparently bulletproof anyway so he can just hammer it, right? That's practically another clear if Serela DOES flip vengeful since Schezo had the scum!Doc iirc.

Except surely both you and Conq cannot be town at this point? We have quite a lot of clears at this point [Ok we just really have O4rfish until scum post restrict flips] or 'might as well be clears' like Affinity and myself.

Oarfish apparently revives so he should hammer.

Might be oneshot; might be night only. Who knows.

er, what?

Er, what indeed.

We should deal with Serela today however. Worry about everyone else afterwards. We have a lot of informational night actions apparently. I honestly think those are more useful than any discussion at this precise time.
===

Also why didn't we cotton on that a less-waffly Serela was scum earlier?

===

I'm cut so much~
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
I think the scumkill came from Serela and Oarfish's roleblock didn't go through for some reason.
Since Serela legit seemed to have no idea that Oarfish targeted him last night. Compared to him blurting out that oarfish blocked him n1.

Yeah, this sounds right.

Still want flavor claims from BT and Massafect.

Raikaria: a claim of Saint under duress generally means Scum Notsaint.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
Actually can someone more competant than me make a list of who is not clear/semi clear at this point? I need this sort of thing to decide who to invite to my quicktopic tonight.

BT is Mystia.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 08:52:06 AM
I don't see why Conq and I can't both be town here? I mean, it's not impossible that he's scum but unless it's PoE I probably wouldn't vote that way?

What was the logic for Affinity!clear again?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 08:52:29 AM
Except surely both you and Conq cannot be town at this point?
Whay's that? And can someone unvote Serela just to be safe please?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
I don't see why Conq and I can't both be town here? I mean, it's not impossible that he's scum but unless it's PoE I probably wouldn't vote that way?

What was the logic for Affinity!clear again?

Because frankly we're running out of people who are not clear or semi-clear.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 08:54:37 AM
I'm pretty sure SB and I are both town. I think the last scum are BT and...gasp! Raikaria.

Lynch BT tomorrow --> My hunch is that he'll have the ability that post restricted Dan, which will clear Affinity.

Raikaria is just because I'm steadily disagreeing more and more with everything he posts. And vanilla neighborizer in this setup where everyone is super buff doesn't seem very likely.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 08:57:04 AM
Even if Raikaria is scum, won't it become apparent after people stop joining the QT?

Is the hunch based on the voteblock being on the same role as the post restrict? That... kind of makes sense, actually.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 08:58:11 AM
Also Raikaria used the neighbour topic as a semi-thought dump place so that also suggests that he's town?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:58:24 AM
As I said before; I also know my role is the shortest one.

Also you think BT's proven investigative role is scum? Cool scum role; 'confirm a townie'.

Also to clarify the status of what we know; or at least what I know:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]

And why are we lynching Serela again; what was the evidence and who gave it? I lost it in 6 pages of nightposts.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:00:10 AM
Yeah, as long as people keep joining the QT while there's a mafia nk he's not a priority.

re: BT. It's more that I think the Dan slot is town and I'm taking a wild guess based on flavourgaming/rolegaming.

Pedit: My thinking Raikaria is scum could just be me getting annoyed at him, yeah. That said, I'm fairly sure BT is scum.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:00:25 AM
As far as I can tell, BT's role is "voteblock 3 people, get a cop result on the third" which... isn't really likely to rack up a lot of reports, nor is the cop report provable. It also leaves him open to take the factional kill at night while still being able to prove /something/ if that's your thing.

We're lynching Serela because he practically scumclaimed lol.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:01:01 AM
I'm just trying to figure out who's ambiguous so I can invite them. I'd rather invite and speak to the grey areas at this point.

As I said before; I also know my role is the shortest one.

Also you think BT's proven investigative role is scum? Cool scum role; 'confirm a townie'.

Also to clarify the status of what we know; or at least what I know:

01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]

And why are we lynching Serela again; what was the evidence and who gave it? I lost it in 6 pages of nightposts.

I forgot Polly is purple
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:01:07 AM
"BT's proven investigative role."
The only thing proven about his role is that he has a voteblock which is conditional.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:01:41 AM
Basically from where I'm sitting the scum are 2 of:

Conq
Bard
Massaca
Zakeri
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:02:25 AM
Zak and Bard are pretty much confirmed too, right? I think you're clearing BT (and by proxy, Oarfish) too easily.

Was Massaca claiming cop really a thing I missed? :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:03:39 AM
Affinity is not confirmed.
BT is not confirmed and because of that Oarfish in not confirmed.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:05:14 AM
01. Chaore Polaris
03. BT
05. Zakeri
06. Massaca
08. Raikaria
09. O4rfish
10. Just
12. SB [?]
13. Serela
14. Dormio Conqueror
16. ActionDan Affinity [Assuming because of restriction D1]
Serela claimed scum.
Polly is purple.
Zak... claimed a shot on Moridin. We don't actually know more than that aside from the doc claim, but we have so many bulletproofs and roleblocks already.
Massaca could be a full action+color cop for what I know. It'd make sense for a setup with two ITPs and a third red ITP.
Bard's confirmed N2 muncher.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:05:44 AM
BT Oarfish scumteam. BT proves a type of voteblock day 2 on Oarfish. Day 3 uses a different type and claims it only works on Scum. Scum pair confirmed town how?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
Zak is town unless you think mafia have a one-shot vig and his explanation of why him doccing Dan N1 and knowing the protection wasn't hit made him suspicious of Chaore could be explained with something else.
Bard isn't really confirmed but I think the way he's handled his role has been town and his play as well.
Oarfish is probably town via Serela who can't stop talking. It could be a COOL GAMBIT but we can put that aside for now I think.
Massaca claimed several cop shots, dunno what the rest of his role is. I don't think he's scum either, and he makes more sense as an investigative role than what BT claimed.

Affinity is not confirmed but I like to think he's town because his posts don't make me scream noooo internally.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:06:55 AM
Is this setup really 9/4/1/1/1? This is fucking with me.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:07:34 AM
Affinity is semi-confirmed. Unless you are saying the post restriction is town-controlled; which no-one has claimed or anything.

BT's role is confirmed. I doubt scum have a compulsive voteblock which can either reveal a scumbuddy or confirm a townie. I HIGHLY doubt it. Therefor I consider O4rfish confirmed. Especially since he claims hit.

I did forget Bard is the D2 muncher which is certainly not a scum move since it depreives scum of a nightkill.

So that leaves Massaca; Conq and Zakeri from my PoV.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:08:21 AM
Also if Actiondan's D1 restriction was self-imposed then he's too dumb to live by triggering it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:09:35 AM
BT's role is confirmed. I doubt scum have a compulsive voteblock which can either reveal a scumbuddy or confirm a townie.

Citation is required for the notion that it can reveal a scumbuddy.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
^And yet it cost the no-lynch, practically made him "confirmed" and let him get off not doing anything til now.

Is this setup really 9/4/1/1/1? This is fucking with me.
NNR was pretty much a townie anyway, no? Had the ability to depower the SK and gain town information, can't win without town's help and stays to help after.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:11:51 AM
First line of the above directed at Raikaria's Dan comment.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:12:38 AM
Dan had rl computer troubles so I can't fault him for not posting.

Not being able to no lynch isn't so bad either since if you no lynch you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:13:13 AM
Furthermore, BT can't be proved to have hit Oarfish with the restriction yesterday. Could have hit absent Dan for all we know.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:14:29 AM
Well with the amount of informative roles in this game so far I doubt BT has a strong role.

Also his voteblock only takes effect on the hammer. Assuredly so he cannot voteblock D3/D6 to reveal someone's alignment and allow town to INSTANTLY act upon a scum being found. Seems like a balancing thing which makes no sense from a scum perspective.

Also you didn't see our discussions over who to voteblock. He seemed legitimately wanting to clear or find scum on someone rather ambiguous.

Also you didn't see BT panicking that he might have; if he voteblocked scum; made Rocks Fall.

Furthermore, BT can't be proved to have hit Oarfish with the restriction yesterday. Could have hit absent Dan for all we know.

'Can't be proven' can be applied to pretty much anything anyone says. Especially you; Conq and Zakeri.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:16:25 AM
Zak is both the confirmed vig and the uncced doc, I'm pretty sure he's not scum. Massaca is also the unCCed Cop and I don't think there would be a miller that only messed with BT's apparent role, considering the ninja had to deal with both a tracker and a watcher.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:16:51 AM
Proven stuff in mafia: Stuff that acts with other people's roles in ways they can confirm. I can pretty much prove my role tonight, but that's doesn't prove alignment. Anyway.

Did you not see all the hemming and hawing I put into the neighborhood QT when I was scum neighborizer in Mirai Nikki? And as for the Rocks Fall thing, like I said, I'm wary that he didn't bring it up earlier when there were people who could do stuff about it, especially since at that point there was no downside to outing it.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:18:25 AM
I can just about guarantee that day 1 could have happened again.
Actually on that note, Rawr lied about being able to gain powers but choose not too on day 1 didn't he? That's a bit lulz if I'm remembering right.

Quote
'Can't be proven' can be applied to pretty much anything anyone says. Especially you; Conq and Zakeri.
But you're taking it as fact.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:19:24 AM
"Can't be proven" could also apply to BT being part cop, right?

Rawr COULD gain powers, if I got nightkilled.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:19:38 AM
Wait a second.

I just thought of something in my own role PM.

I'm an idiot. How did I not realize this earlier.

I know my role PM is the shortest in the game.

This alone should cast doubt in my mind that BT only has his single action.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:20:43 AM
Derp, even if BT's role is as you claimed, his role would be longer than yours given voteblock mechanics + pseudocop.

That said, I don't think BT's role is as you claimed.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:20:59 AM
Rawr COULD gain powers, if I got nightkilled.
"Chose"
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:22:03 AM
I have my mechanics about inviting 1 person or 2. How my thing works D1 and D2.

Also; I miiiight not be totally honest about me ONLY being a neighbouriser. I have a 2nd; alternate ability which is reliant on my quicktopic. Something I have not even shared in my QT.

I can cop people in there.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
Wat. Well now there's definitely scum within Raikaria/BT/Massaca.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:23:12 AM
Kept this secret for OBVIOUS REASONS but seeing as it might get us a scum to lynch tomorrow it makes sense to out it now.

I can even cop BT tonight. Provided I don't get murdered. But hey; don't we have a watcher?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:24:07 AM
Ok no I was wrong :/ just said he could gain powers.

Cut by ahaha oh man. The fuck didn't you cop BT alread then?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:24:46 AM
To flavourclaim fully:

I am Toyosatomimi no Miko; I invite people to my quicktopic to 'gather an audience' and my cop is to listen to the desires of someone in my audience. I am also aware my role PM is the game's shortest. [9 lines including flavor]
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
Oh man, all these new developments.

Anyway, I'm going to sleep. Someone unvote Serela just so we don't get trigger happy people. Pretty sure we should just massclaim and break this game open today.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
I thought BT was town. This was BEFORE we had  THIRD ALIGNMENT TESTING CLAIM.

I thought with my cop being situational and BT's being situational they could co-exist.

I decided it was better to invite SB because he was very ambiguous. I planned to cop him N4.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:27:03 AM
Then SB went and claimed stuff at the start of the day.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
And as for the Rocks Fall thing, like I said, I'm wary that he didn't bring it up earlier when there were people who could do stuff about it, especially since at that point there was no downside to outing it.
Earlier when? We were already fretting about getting a lynch on someone and I'd already announced the voteblock. I obviously started highlighting the point when it was a real danger, so...?

I probably could have done a lot of things differently with this claim if I were scum. I still don't get the logic behind Massaca copping Zak N1 and opting not to share it because of godfather concerns.

Cut: More info roles. Didn't we agree that there were too many? >_____> Yes, cop me tonight.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:28:01 AM
Also if I was fakeclaiming would I really be fakeclaiming a THIRD COP?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:28:24 AM
BT: I can't word right now. I'll try and rephrase it tomorrow when I get back from work.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:29:08 AM
Okay.

I watch Zak, Zak docs Raikaria and Raikaria Cops BT?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:29:19 AM
Like, literally, me and Rai talked about there being too many info roles in the QT. Can you cop QT people every night? How are both your role and Massaca's town?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:31:10 AM
I still don't get the logic behind Massaca copping Zak N1 and opting not to share it because of godfather concerns.

Oh right, I forgot about this.
I didn't want to reveal it unless it was necessary so as to allow extra nigts for me (thanks Bardiche) and to let the wagoning go on further for more analysis.
But 80% cause i didn't want to claim too early.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
I can QT cop people every night; but I cannot invite and cop at once. So I run out of people to cop.

And if I've outed as cop scum get a warning night/day before I can actually cop them and then out my report. Which is why I never outed it in my QT.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
Raikaria, are you trying to get modkilled?!?!!!!!!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:33:10 AM
I'd be down for the mass claim. But I don't know if I feel like going first :3

By the way, I'm not a full cop.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:34:29 AM
So that sounds about right. There's Moridin's SK QT, there's Raikaria's Town QT with restricted copping powers (scum having this QT instead would be weird), then there's my cop shots to fill in the gaps. This along with Massaca's, NNR's rolecop and what Conq is claiming, and rawr and SB, is, like, no.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:34:56 AM
And i was kinda larping my character a bit throughout day and night 1 and 1 day of D3 :/
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:35:30 AM
Raikaria, are you trying to get modkilled?!?!!!!!!

No. I am outing information I have. I am not quoteing communications with the mod or breaking any rules. You have no evidence that I am telling the truth. You can choose to not believe me. Direct quotation of mod communication is not allowed for that reason. I can say my role happily and give information; I just cannot quote.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:36:42 AM
And considering I know my role PM is the shortest saying how many lines are in my role PM seems perfectly reasonable. And again; I am not quoteing mod communication. I could be making this stuff up for all you know.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 09:37:32 AM
Also: BT was reasonably active in the QT during Day 2 despite not really doing anything in thread. He didn't really talk about much other than roles and Dorian there though.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
Saying how many lines of code are in your PM would be a yellow card in my game, if I didn't have only 2 roles.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:39:40 AM
I guess BT's voteblock mechanics are short enough that it could be possible that his role PM is still longer than mine I guess however.

So it's not definitive but I can still cop him to make sure either way.

Saying how many lines of code are in your PM would be a yellow card in my game, if I didn't have only 2 roles.

It says nowhere in the rules about it. And again; you have n evidence that I am telling the truth, nor do other players. That is the critical thing.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:42:23 AM
By that logic you have "no proof" this Role PM I pasted to the letter is what the mod sent me.

But this is modding philosophy.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:43:54 AM
By that logic you have "no proof" this Role PM I pasted to the letter is what the mod sent me.

But this is modding philosophy.

Exactly. Players have no proof of that. You could have be making it up.

Although that may count as quotation. Which I'm not doing. I'm simply giving relevant information. I know my role PM length is the shortest. Therefor I think it is relevant to say how long my role PM is.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 09:47:09 AM
Man, and the day started with people advocating a quicklynch.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:49:47 AM
And now we actually are quicklynching Serela. It's still pretty quick considering we have more than 48 hours left.

Rai: No, I was disagreeing. Your logic could be stretched to make the rule forbidding mod quotations look funny. "I copypasted my actual Role PM. But you can't prove it isn't fake." A line has to be drawn somewhere.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
Anyway, I'll claim my role since it might be helpful.

Last night I successfully used my other ability on myself, and I can double-act tonight. I can use either one of my actions to either speed someone up (can double-act the night next) or slow someone down (action is delayed, see Polaris). I won't eat the night.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 09:52:21 AM
Because my role permits my target to ignore the rules regarding acting only once, I don't think Conqueror's weird in a Scummy way, but I'm fairly sure Conqueror's also an ITP if he can steal abilities and use stolen abilities on the same night.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:54:19 AM
Oh my, that sounds useful. I'd rather claim after BT but eh. Though I really don't want to claim before Affinity
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 09:56:31 AM
I wonder what'd happen if I delayed one of two scum, and then the next night he's the only scum. He can't NK because his previous night's action is resolving, so does that count as scum violating the rules? :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 09:57:41 AM
If you haste me that means I can invite and cop someone on the same night.

Also BT says in the QT his role PM exceeds 9 lines. He gave a specific amount but considering the flak others gave me for giving out relevant information given the situation...
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
If you haste me that means I can invite and cop someone on the same night.

When did you become a cop?  :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:59:36 AM
Couldn't you cop both myself and SB?

I already claimed everything.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 09:59:47 AM
He can QT cop. He chose to add SB into his QT instead of Copping BT though which I still find questionable. And you know, cause QT's suck >:/
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
By the way, bardiche, can you use the double ability use thing on the same person twice?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 10:00:55 AM
He can QT cop. He chose to add SB into his QT instead of Copping BT though which I still find questionable. And you know, cause QT's suck >:/

As I said; you had not claimed cop yet and I thought my situational cop and BT's situational cop could co-exist happily.

That or I can cop BT and invite someone to cop N5. I don't know the mechanics of Bard's speedup.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:02:26 AM
I claimed Cop day 3. You did that Night 3.
Whatevs.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:03:24 AM
Oh no wait, I said it was one-shot. My apologies.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 10:03:59 AM
Oh wait it's you can act twice the FOLLOWING night; so I cop BT tonight and invite and cop someone tomorrow.

I claimed Cop day 3. You did that Night 3.
Whatevs.

You claimed 1-shot [Cut]

So I still was confident BT was town at the time. I thought it was much better inviting SB; who honestly had not done anything of note yet, and copping him N4.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:05:29 AM
Ok yeah, fair enough.

And if Bardiche can use that on the same person multiple nights in a row it could actually break my role.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:06:14 AM
BT you should find out if getting roleblocked at night will block your day action. And if you're notified.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 10:11:05 AM
BT you should find out if getting roleblocked at night will block your day action. And if you're notified.
I don't get blocked and, uh, don't get notified.

Does this day being "Day DIE" bear any relevance? I just noticed that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 10:19:15 AM
I imagine it'll be fine if we just lynch Serela.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 10:19:44 AM
Though yeah, @MOD: Is Day DIE a modjoke or actual game state?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 10:20:28 AM
I don't get blocked and, uh, don't get notified.

Does this day being "Day DIE" bear any relevance? I just noticed that.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourIsDeath
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
Should still have the mod clear that stuff up.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Can't imagine there would be but anyone object to me just claiming now?
I'm kinda bored.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 10:48:03 AM
Though yeah, @MOD: Is Day DIE a modjoke or actual game state?
Raikaria pretty much answered that for me.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Massaca on September 02, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
Ok then here we go

I'm Patchy and I have the following one-shots
- [colour] Cop
- Doc
- Roleblock
- Redirect
- Vig (can't act next night phase)
- Poison (target gets some sort of vague notification, kills next night, unblockable, I get a 400 word post restriction for the whole day phase* due to the mercury)
- and a mimic which lets me re-use one ability I've already used

*this is why I was all like "that restriction is so weak" and whatnot during day 1.

So yeah, that's that.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 01:49:45 PM
hahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
So much love, so much life! 

I'm Marisa!  and I'm a mycologist who loves mushrooms of all kinds, the effects of which are shrouded in mystery!  Every night, including N0, I make ppl eat some of them
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
Hey Conq are you an ITP?

Can you joint win with scum or town or do you have to kill everyone? I doubt it's the latter. I doubt you're an ITP at all because three already flipped. Polly are you willing to work towards the scum wincon instead of town's? I don't think they have lynches to afford to spend on you and you're confirmed ITP and not scum basically.

Cut by oh wow.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 02:34:01 PM
So much love, so much life! 

I'm Marisa!  and I'm a mycologist who loves mushrooms of all kinds, the effects of which are shrouded in mystery!  Every night, including N0, I can make ppl eat some of them, but what they did or do I did not know! 

man I'm too excited!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
Hey Conq are you an ITP?

Can you joint win with scum or town or do you have to kill everyone? I doubt it's the latter. I doubt you're an ITP at all because three already flipped. Polly are you willing to work towards the scum wincon instead of town's? I don't think they have lynches to afford to spend on you and you're confirmed ITP and not scum basically.

Cut by oh wow.

3 scum; Polly and 7 town.

We have lynches to spare Serela.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 02:38:44 PM
Specifically one townie lynch. [We lynch you it's 2 red 1 purple 6 town. We lynch Polly we still have 2 red 5 town going into D6, we still have a mislynch even after lynching Polly]
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
So no Polly; throwing your lot in with scum is a very silly thing to do.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 02:42:25 PM
so yeah I don't know who I was in my previous life but well,

*plot twist*

Dan couldn't help snacking on a few on N0!  that's how he got that nasty PR! 

He lied when he said that his role and PR did not seem to matter! 
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 02:42:55 PM
So anyway, whilst I'm being forced to wait to die, wow. ActionDan really did restrict himself n0. And then futzed up his own restriction. And 1v1'd with no-lynch-tan into a town pass for the whole game. Cut by YEP THAT SURE IS WOW
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
The scum team is slowly strangled to death by town and the bucketfulls of ITPs whilst town tries to kill themselves and gets cleared for it

##Vote Serela ##Vote Serela ##Vote Serela

plzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 02:58:09 PM
We should have wondered why Dan wasn't trying to find out who PRed him.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
O4rfish to be fair it's not like there's much you can really do for that anyway. What are you going to do, hand out post restriction awareness pamphlets?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:02:25 PM
Plot Twist. I'm actually a Blue ITP.

Yes, I belong to the Blue faction of which I am the only member.

I win when there's nothing threatening the Blue team.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
nice blue there
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
Can I take my scumclaim back? I'm actually in the Maroon team. It's close to red, but not really, especially because it's green. I win when everyone tries to lynch me.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:08:47 PM
Surely you jest.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 03:10:22 PM
Other details (sorry i had breakfast)

i can't feed the same person twice in three days!

every mushroom I eat and every day that passes works towards me getting something special (one-shot)!

alternatively, i have another ability, the name of a spellcard!  i can surround myself with a coat of stars to effectively become an ascetic for the night, getting a 50% chance of blocking any night action directed at me reflexively!  the more shrooms i eat, the higher the chance i get!  (now at 75%)

was told that certain other characters who eat these shrooms may or may not gain another version of the above reflexive ability as well (how that works I do not know)!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:12:23 PM
I'm going out on a limp and guess Patchouli is from a non-Town faction as well, given the breadth of powers.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
Also we should obviously lynch all ITP claims to ensure they're not scum trying to get through on an ITP claim.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:15:10 PM
But everyone can't be itp.

...ri...right...?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Ohhhhhhhh, nice try Affinity. You were so close, but you stepped over a line.

Scum: Schezo, Serela, Dan/Affinity, other person
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
Man, I should have claimed itp.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:17:24 PM
Serela, the only person that I trust besides myself is you, because you had a wonderful scum breakdown and saved Zakeri. (Funny that we should've lynched you for being too competent after all!) So I know I can trust your opinions to be scum-motivated. The rest, I have no idea whether I'm surrounded by ITPs and Scum or if there's still Town in this mess.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
You should explain, O4rfish.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:18:39 PM
Let's do it, Affinity is my scumbuddy, let's quicklynch him right here and now!

Come on guys, we can do it! I want to hammer, though.

Cut by Bard no you can totally trust me to tell the truth let's do this. Also nooooo it wasn't just me looking competent please don't let that be a real scumtell for me that's the worst tell ever ;_;
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 03:19:27 PM
so yeah Dan's clear D1 was based entirely on false premises.  he had a good reason to do it though!  N1 he used the ascetic ability and N3 I used it too!  really wanted to protect myself.  also i didn't want to confuse the night action tangle for some non-obvious benefit.

I plan to eat some shrooms myself tonight though!  Then things can happen!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:21:44 PM
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Also nooooo it wasn't just me looking competent please don't let that be a real scumtell for me that's the worst tell ever ;_;

Sorry, a Serela who doesn't waffle is forevermore your scum-meta. The more certain and confident Serela is, the more scummy.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Also from Dan's gameplay we can safely deduce Affinity isn't Town either, because Dan played with incredible disregard for anything and Affinity isn't even posting seriously either. Let's lynch everyone.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:27:49 PM
THIS GAME HAS BEEN FUN RIGHT. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,12276.msg808998.html#msg808998) Here's to you from your scumteam myself, Affinity who had the misfortune of replacing into Dan's slot to witness our inevitably approaching execution, and BT who is about to be copped tonight and there's not a SINGLE THING we can do about it.

Fun fact:NONE OF THE SCUM'S NIGHT ACTIONS HAVE DONE A SINGLE HELPFUL THING. The only thing all game we got was nightkilling Rawr. And the ONE info result we get, from NNR on night 1, ends up being publically claimed before it got to be useful! Meanwhile town has literally ALL OF THE POWERS

ALL OF THEM

THE POWER TO SHRUG OFF THE UNBLOCKABLE UNPROTECTABLE UNHEALABLE UNREDIRECTABLE SUPERKILL THAT TOOK THREE DAYS TO CHARGE AND JUST REVIVE BECAUSE CIRNO IS THE STRONGEST. It ignores... "most" defensive abilities! And we thought NNR was the exception NOOOOPE. And yes, you get to roleblock us at the same time! Let's not forget the MULTIPLE COPS, and MULTIPLE ROLECOPS, and MULTIPLE DOCS, and MULTIPLE ROLEBLOCKERS, and now there's even double actions and everything Massaca just claimed.

Yeah we give up.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
N1 he used the ascetic ability and N3 I used it too!

i can surround myself with a coat of stars to effectively become an ascetic for the night, getting a 50% chance of blocking any night action directed at me reflexively!

04. There are no random role effects in the game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
Oh no; they're onto me~

I'm the techicolor faction and I win when green wins.

But seriously; I'm not an ITP.

Also BT claimed his voteblock on D3 triggers on non-green. Not red. So Or4fish your Blue faction isn't a thing if BT is truthful :3
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:31:06 PM
But seriously we're just goofing around now.

Let's just lynch Celery so I can cop BT and get double-actioned' by Bard so I can invite and cop someone N5.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:33:37 PM
Also I WANT to hammer but I'm scared Serela will eat me.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:33:42 PM
No I'm not kidding, we're just waiting for Affinity and BT to confirm we're throwing. CF7 just apologized in our QT for how strong town was because somehow this setup worked in paper tests?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:34:43 PM
Wait what.

We white flagging now?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
Affinity wanted to wait on throwing in case we're screwing up ITPs but I mean Polly is a survivor and NNR is dead and we already killed the anti-town SK.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
And yes; I've been thinking what the hell mod since Dorian flipped.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
Eldest Daughter is so cute.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
oh man.

yeah whatever.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:38:36 PM
Can someone explain what Celery's link is all about because I don't get it. Some 3rd party annoyed the scum so they white flagged? I wasn't in Sword Girls.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:40:41 PM
Raikaria:Scum had no control over any of their powers and basically were getting toyed around with. They quickhammered the day before to avoid a scum lynch and then threw based on assuming they were supposed to use a vig-that-kills-you-for-hitting-town to kill an ITP, but there was no actual ITP (they hit the town cult leader tho :V).

I was actually the bus driver that had been futzing up their kill. It'd have been even worse for them if I'd redirected it to either of the people I was 100% postive were scum (and were), but it was so obvious imo they were scum that I tried to hit the third and I think I killed the town cop? Lessons were learned
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
but yeah it's relevant because all of scum's powers this game just got flat-out denied, even the SUPERKILL that's almost impossible to go wrong with and takes three days to charge.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:42:34 PM
Well... uh... do you really kill whoever hammers you?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:42:54 PM
And man Day DIE is appropriate.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
No, but seriously, the game should be over unless there's an anti-town ITP left or something. Scumteam is giving up.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:44:46 PM
#Unvote
#Vote: Serela


-_[._.]_-

I don't care if you're giving up I wanna hammer you.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 03:45:09 PM
OBJECTION!

We still have ITPs to lynch even if the Scumteam explodes.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
Well if they are exploding then my hammer isn't a hammer.

#Unvote
#Vote: Polaris
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
But seriously there's 1 ITP and like; 7 townies. We'd have to do some next level throws to throw this Bard.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
Town already killed the SK, if there's even more anti-town itps past arguably the survivor, then, uh. I don't know if O4rfish was being serious but he should also be winning now?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
No, cirno is green even though she's cyan.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
Welp; I think I'm going to shut up; wait for the implosion and take notes on what NOT to include in Mystery of the Druids Setup Mafia.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
This vote was a hammer vote. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17315.msg1124594.html#msg1124594) According to the rules all votes and unvotes made after hammer vote are invalid.
So... Serela was lynched. He was...

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Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
So... The game is over.
Town (totally balanced and not completely overpowered) wins.
I'd like to thank and at the same time apologize to everyone who participated.
"Day DIE" was a strangely prophetic name it seems.


01. Yukari. Chaore
02. Aya. Dr Rawr
03. Koishi. BT
04. Yuyuko. Moridin
05. Komachi. Zak
06. Patchouli. Massaca
07. Alice. Schezo
08. Miko. Raikaria
09. THE STRONGEST. O4rfish
10. Sakuya. Bard
11. Seija. Dorian
12. Hatate. SB
13. Rumia. Serela
14. Satori. Dormio
15. Reimu. NNR
16. Marisa. Dan

Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 03:57:16 PM
Whilst we wait, I was untargetable by investigation powers due to my darkness, and was able to deny people from seeing their night action results as my night action. I tried to target Zak n1 since sure why not. Also, yes, o4rfish's power seemed to fail n3 due to him being Master Sparked by Marisa. Marisa was a pretty cool role by the way.

BT is Koishi and our rolecop. He's also a plain voteblocker. His fakeclaim was really good, unlike the other scum fakeclaims. Man, all the town powers already covered anything that'd fit with Rumia. I really should have fakeclaimed ITP, but it's probably best to end the suffering now anyway; too many town roles that'd catch us or confirm everyone else as town, we wouldn't have made it.

cut:Oh that flip would have been pretty nice actually.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
Roles.

1. Reimu Hakurei. Shrine Maiden.
You are a shrine maiden at the Hakurei shrine. You main duties are maintaining the shrine, maintaining the Hakurei barrier and solving incidents. You are especially good at the last part. And if you have to beat some people up in the process to get the truth out of them, usually it's their own fault.
Alignment color - Red.
Night Abilities.
1. (I). Dream Sign. Ability check. During the night phase you can check the names and the type of the abilities that the targeted player can use.
2. (?). Dream Sign. Evil Sealing Circle. You're not sure why these spirits keep gathering, but this can't be a good sign. During the night phase you can exorcise one of the spirits. Chosen spirit is removed from the game and goes to the graveyard. Since this ritual is quite exhausting, you can't use this ability twice in a row.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). 2 Extra Lives. During the night phase, when you're targeted by a kill attempt, it fails and you lose 1 extra life. If you have 2 extra lives and you're targeted by an ability that ignores defensive abilities you lose 2 lives instead of 1. If you have 1 extra life and you're targeted by an ability that ignores defensive abilities you die.
2. (-). Red Impulse. You know the number of Red alignment players at the start of the game. And that number is 5.
Win condition.
You win, when you're the only Red alignment player left in the game. If you achieve your win condition, you don't leave the game and continue to play until the win condition for Green alignment is achieved. If you're killed or lynched after achieving your win condition, you're still considered a winner after the game has ended.


2. Aya Shameimaru. Tengu Reporter.
You are tengu paparazzi and publish you own newspaper in Gensokyo - "Bunbunmaru Newspaper". You are always looking for the latest scoop and stop at nothing to be there first. You are one of the fastest youkai in the Gensokyo.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (I). Investigation. At night you can spy on one of the players and see whom the targeted player visited this night. If the player targeted you during the night phase, you know the type of the ability the player used.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Double Spoiler. You know that Hatate Himekaido is in the game. She is your rival of sorts. If Hatate dies, during the night phase you can use her ability instead of yours.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


3. Hatate Himekaido. Spirit Photographer.
After reading Aya's newspaper you decided to start your own - "Kakashi Spirit News". You prefer to stay at home instead of chasing all around the world for something that might be or might be not latest scoop. You use your spirit photography to gather the news.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (I). Investigation. During the night you can spy on one of the players and see all their guests. If the target had only one guest you know the type of the ability that the guest used.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Double Spoiler. You know that Aya Shameimaru is in the game. She is your rival of sorts, If Aya dies, during the night phase you can use her ability instead of yours.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


4. Cirno. THE STRONGEST.
You are Cirno and you are the strongest. The strongest fairy, that is. You can control cold. You're pretty easy going and tend to rush into things without thinking it through. Also you're not very smart, however by fairy standard you can be considered almost a genius. Almost. Ever since that incident began you've been quite energetic and have been having lots of fun.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" - Easy. You attempt to shoot icicles at your target, but for some reason you keep missing them. On the other hand, icicles freeze anyone who tries to visit your target and is using (-) ability. Effectively you block any night actions directed at your target with (-) type.
2. (-). Perfect Freeze. You freeze your target solid, roleblocking  a player of your choosing for the duration of the night. You can't use this ability two nights in a row.
Passive Abilities.
1. (-). Resurrection. If you receive fatal damage, you die and resurrect on the spot. If your motivation is at 100% or more you continue the game, if it's less than 100%, you quit the game. Motivation decreases by 100% after each resurrection. Your initial motivation is at 68%. Your motivation increases by 33% for each passing night.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


5. Seija Kijin. Amanojaku Contrarian.
You're Seija Kijin. You have the ability to flip things. Be it objects or people. Also your feelings  are the opposite of the feeling of people around you. But luckily for you, since this incident began, most of the people around you have been sort of on edge and not very happy in general. Which is perfect. You are having fun, they are not, everybody wins.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Reverse Polarity. This ability allows you to steal night action results of the selected player.
Passive Abilities.
1. (-). Reverse Ideology. Color alignment checks on you will return Red result.
2. (-). Reverse Hierarchy. If you're targeted by any (x) ability, that action automatically fails, instead, if someone tries to protect or heal you, you'll die. You can't be roleblocked or redirected during the night.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


6. Patchouli Knowledge. One Week Magician.
You are Patchouli Knowledge. You are the head librarian of the Scarlet Devil Mansion. Usually you  organize books in the library with the help of your assistant - Koakuma. You like to experiment with spells and try new element combinations. You think that this color blindness incident is somehow tied to elements and you decided to investigate this in person.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Emerald Megalith. This ability lets you roleblock one player.
2. (-). Bury in the Lake. This ability lets you redirect one player's night action to another player.
3. (x). Royal Flare. This ability lets you kill one player. Because of your poor health, you have to rest during the next night, if you use this ability.
4. (-). Mercury Poison. This ability lets you poison one player. He/She will die during the next night. Targeted player will be given a clue that he/she was poisoned. All this mercury is bad for your health. Your vision is blurred, your head spins and you feel even weaker than usual. You'd rather go and rest. As a result you can't post more than 400 words during the next day phase.
5. (+). Princess Undine. This ability lets you heal one player, protecting him/her from kill attempts. You may target yourself.
6. (I). Satellite Himawari. This ability lets you check alignment color of one player.
7. (~). Philosopher Stone. You can use this ability to mimic one of the abilities 1-6. Type of the ability depends on the ability that you mimic.
You can use any ability only once during an in game week. If game lasts more than 7 days, on the 8th night all your abilities will be reset and you will be able use them all again.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


7. Satori Komeiji. Satori Maiden.
You are Satori Komeiji - mistress of the Palace of Earth Spirits. Your ability is to read minds and you tend to say aloud the thoughts of people around you. You're not exactly popular with the rest of Gensokyo because of that.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (?). Mind Reading. You copy the ability that the targeted player used this night. You know the name and the type of the copied ability. If you copied an ability that affects more than one player, you'll be notified about that. You can not copy abilities with (?) type.
2. (~)  Recollection. Use the ability that you copied before. Type of ability depends on the copied ability.
Both abilities can be used during the same night. You can have only 1 active Recollection at the time, If you used ability Mind Reading and didn't use ability Recollection, your copied ability is overwritten with the new ability. Upon use Recollection ability is spent and you must use Mind Reading to get another Recollection ability.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Recollection: Large Box and Small Box. You split into two copies of yourself. When you are targeted with a (x) type ability at night, that action fails. One time only.
2. (-). Hated. Residents of Gensokyo tolerate you, but it doesn't mean that they're happy being around you. You need one less vote than normal to be lynched. Does not activate during LyLo phase.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


8. Sakuya Izayoi. Maid of the Scarlet Devil.
You are Sakuya Izayoi - head maid at the Scarlet Devil Mansion. You do most of the actual work at the SDM, ranging from cleaning to preparing food. Your time manipulation abilities let you do all that with ease. You are also quite skilled with your knives. Your mistress decided not to involve herself with this incident and sent you instead.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (+). Luna dial ~ Speed Up. Target of this ability can perform two night actions on the next night. If they have multiple abilities they can use one ability twice or two abilities once at the same time. Target of this ability is notified that it was sped up.
2. (-). Luna Dial ~ Slow Down. Target of this ability is slowed down and their night ability is used on the next night. Targeted player can't change the target or ability they were using, when they were slowed down. Target of this ability is notified that it was slowed down.
3. (?). Sakuya's World. You stop time for everyone for the duration of the night. Everybody's night abilities are stopped. Has priority over everything else on the night it is used. Can be used only once.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


9. Komachi Onozuka. Sanzu river Ferryman.
You are Komachi Onozuka. You are shinigami and your main job is to carry spirits of the dead over the Sanzu river to your superior. You're not very diligent at you job and tend to slack off a lot. Which in turn results in scolding from the Yama. You were tasked by her to oversee this incident.
Alignment color - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (+). Protection from Death. You know when someone is going to die. And since you don't want any more work than you already have, you can manipulate the fate of a person that they don't actually die, unless you want them to. Save the target from one kill attempt during the night.
2. (x). Shinigami's Scythe. As a shinigami you can attempt to kill one player during the night. This ability can be used only once.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.


10. Toyosatomimi no Miko. True Administrator.
You are Toyosatomimi no Miko. You know everyone's desires, but noone knows yours.
Color alignment - Green.
Night Abilities.
1. (?). Gather Audience. You can invite people to share a QT with. On the night 1 you can invite 2 people, on the following nights you can invite only 1 person.
2. (?). Listen to Their Desires. You can check one player's alignment color, whom you invited to your QT.
Win condition.
You win when all threats to Green alignment are eliminated.



Mafia team. Know each other, must kill every night, there could be only 1 night kill per night. One player may use faction kill ability instead of one of their abilities. If there's only one scum player left alive, then they can use one of their abilities and a faction kill at the same time. Wins when everyone other than mafia players is dead, or there's nothing that can prevent it.

11. Marisa Kirisame. The Golden Witch.
You are Marisa Kirisame. You are human and spent most of your life researching and improving your spells. You're not big fan of finesse, since why bother, you can just obliterate everything with your Master Spark. After this incident began you came up with the idea for an awesome secret plan. You even managed to get some people to help you. No one knows what your plan is. But you know, that it's going to involve lots of mushrooms, pretty colors, explosions, LOVE and it's going to be GLORIOUS.
Alignment color - Red.
Night Abilities.
1. (+). Magical Mushrooms. You force feed some of your favorite mushrooms to one of the players. It's a waste to use them like that, but hey, anything goes when that helps you and your team. Target acquires effect Rainbow! It lasts for the duration of the next day phase.
Rainbow! Your vote can't be a hammer vote. Usage of the word "scum" or its derivatives is prohibited. For example, "not-town/anti-town" is fine. "Scum/scummy/scumminess" is not.  You must use ! at least once per post.
If the player breaks the post restriction, they cannot take any actions the following night phase.  If the player breaks the restriction a second time that player becomes the only lynch candidate for the duration of the current day phase with -1 hated modifier penalty. No_lynch is a possible alternative.
Voting restriction doesn't apply during LyLo or MyLo phases, but post restriction still does.
You can eat mushrooms yourself, in which case heat level of your mini-hakkero raises by additional 20%. All voting and post restrictions still apply. You can't use this ability more than twice in a row on the same player. This ability can be used on N0 i.e. during the confirmation phase.
2. (+). Master Spark. Your favorite spellcard. Huge laser that completely obliterates your target. When using it, you can't be roleblocked or redirected. Target can not be healed or protected. It ignores most of the defensive abilities that the target may have. You can use this ability, when someone else from your team is using their Faction Kill ability.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Mini-hakkero. Your portable mini-furnace. When heat level inside raises to 120% you can use Master Spark. Initial heat level is set to 0%. It raises by 30% for each passing day and by extra 10% for your vote in final votecount placed between L-2 and the hammer. Heat level can not exceed 120%. Heat level is set to 0% after successful Master Spark use.
2. (+). Ordinary Magician. Despite all your training you're still just human. Alignment color checks will return Green result. Until your first successful nightkill, that is.
3. (?). An Unlikely Alliance. You share a common goal and can talk with your team.
Win condition.
You win, when everyone other than the members of your team is dead, or when there is nothing that could prevent that from happening.

12. Rumia. Youkai of Darkness.
Alignment color - Red.
Somehow you were talked into participating in this mess. After lengthy conversation with Marisa, you agreed to help her. She's likely threatened to Master Spark you in the face, unless you agreed to cooperate, though.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Dark Side of the Moon. Target of this ability doesn't see the results of their night actions. Their abilities work as usual for the duration of the night.
Passive Abilties.
1. (?). Cloud of Darkness. You are always surrounded by darkness and no light reaches you. You are immune to all investigative abilities.
2. (?). An Unlikely Alliance. You share a common goal and can talk with your team.
Win condition.
You win, when everyone other than the members of your team is dead, or when there is nothing that could prevent that from happening.


13. Koishi Komeiji. Closed Eye of Love.
You are Koishi Komeiji. Unlike your sister, you closed your eye, so you can not read minds anymore. Instead you can influence person's subconscious. You don't really care about things anymore, and just go to places, but that human magician you once met in Moriya Shrine asked you to help her with another scheme of hers. You're not particularly interested or not, but it's something to do anyway.
Alignment color - Red.
Night abilities.
1. (-). Genetics of the Subconscious. You can see the list of all night abilities and passives that the targeted player may have.
Passive Abilities.
1. (?). An Unlikely Alliance. You share a common goal and can talk with your team.
Day Abilities.
1. (?). Danmaku Paranoia. You block the vote of the selected player. Their vote won't count during a votecount. You can't use this ability during LyLo.
Win condition.
You win, when everyone other than the members of your team is dead, or when there is nothing that could prevent that from happening.


14. Alice Murgatroyd. Seven Color Puppeteer.
You are Alice Murgatroyd. You live in the forest of magic and your main occupation is making dolls. Your dream is to make a sentient doll. Marisa asked you to help her with one of inane schemes of her again and against your better judgment you said yes. You're starting to regret your decision, but it might be too late for that.
Alignment color - Red.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Invisible Wire ~ Be the Puppet. You control one of the players during the night. They perform their night action on the player of your choosing.
2. (+). Hanged Hourai Dolls. You protect your group with 1 time bulletproof protection for the duration of the night. You can not use this ability for the next two nights after the successful use.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Little Legion. You're master puppeteer and your dolls do all the work for you. Because of this, your nightkills are untraceable.
2. (?) An Unlikely Alliance. You share a common goal and can talk with your team.
Win condition.

15. Yukari Yakumo. Youkai of Boundaries.
You are Yukari Yakumo. The true culprit behind this incident. You were bored and decided to see how residents of Gensokyo will react to suddenly seeing world in black and white and being able to see only one color. Some only see Green, others only Red and so on. For the sake of equality, and because it's all fun, you manipulated the border of color perception and now you too see the world in black and white. And Purple. Rather fitting after all.
Alignment color - Purple.
Night Abilities.
1. (-). Hide in the Gap. You trap your target in the gap, failing your target's action and all target's incoming night actions. You may gap yourself.
2. (x). Obsolete Line - Trip to the Old Station. Train from the real world. Can't be guarded against. Can't be grazed. The only downside is a long startup time.
Kills your target. When you're using this ability, its effect is delayed and hits target during the next day phase after 24 hours have passed since the beginning of the day phase. Since most of the defensive abilities only work during the night phase, target of this this ability will likely die. You can use this ability only once. When you are using this ability, you can not be roleblocked or redirected .
Passive Abilities.
1. (I). Balance of Motion and Stillness. You learn the type of the action that the gapped player  wanted to use during the night phase.
Day Abilities.
1. (?) Boundary of Human and Youkai. You learn the Role Name of the targeted player. You can't use this ability if you gapped yourself during the night.
Win condition.
You don't really care how this incident is resolved, you only care that it is resolved. You win, when there's only you and one other faction left in the game.

16. Yuyuko Saigyouji. Ghost Princess of the Netherworld.
You are Yuyuko Saigyouji de facto ruler of the Netherworld. Your main ability is quite simple. You can kill anything that can be killed with a thought. You almost never use this ability.
Actually, shortly before the incident began, Yukari visited you and asked you to participate, and if you remember her exact words correctly, she asked you "to make the things interesting".
Alignment color - Pink.
Night Abilties.
1. (x). Invitation to the Netherworld. Kills your target. Any bulletproof abilities work as usual.
Target doesn't die, instead that player becomes a spirit (there will be an in-game flip, as if the target was killed normally). Spirits lose all their abilities and their day vote, if they shared a QT with other players, they're excluded from that QT. The only thing they can do is to post in the thread. Spirit player counts as a dead player for the sake of determining the majority needed for the day lynch.
Passive Abilities.
1. (+). Watchful spirit. One of the spirits watches over you at night. You are informed if someone visited you during the night. Automatically active if you have 1 or more spirits around you.
2. (+). Spirit protection. One of the spirits protects you during the night, blocking one kill attempt directed at you. If protection is successful the spirit leaves the game and goes to the graveyard. Automatically active if you have 2 or more spirits around you.
Day Abilities.
1. (?). Spirit control. You can order one of the spirits to vote for any player. Spirit's vote counts as a normal vote in the votecount. You can use this ability if you have 3 or more spirits around you. Voting spirit goes to the graveyard after the day phase ends.
Win condition.
You win when you are the only player left alive (excluding your spirits) in the game. If there are any spirits left in the game they're are considered winners with you as well. All spirits go to the graveyard upon your removal from the game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
And finally QT links.

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Zcj7exHMNxuR GM.
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GwxNaFUA35Lj Mafia
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/6Z7UafBtCMf Yuyuko
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gUrpeFyyb2U Neighbours
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tsrA6w6pWjiM Graveyard.
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/xDwSaaP6XWG Dormio/Conq
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/nbN9hM3qr9p Neko Miko Reimu
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
Aw man I never got to use my epic one-shot vig  :ohdear:

Don't forget my survivor win though :>

also wow town is kind of OP
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
I think the problem was that we barely killed the actually green roles, but even then it was pretty ridiculous.

Schezo's N1 preemptive strike on Conq did actually get completely canceled because Moridin "killed him first".
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
Well. I think I need to say this one last time.

What the hell mod.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Affinity on September 02, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
soul-crushing
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: ActionDan on September 02, 2014, 04:11:04 PM
The only people that werent bullet proof were the tracker and watcher and raikaria.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
Flavorful!
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
I think the problem was that we barely killed the actually green roles, but even then it was pretty ridiculous.

Schezo's N1 preemptive strike on Conq did actually get completely canceled because Moridin "killed him first".
Then Moridin's N3 kill completely disappeared because Zak... "vigged him first"?

I still don't understand that part.

...

>He was going to kill me

:fail:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 04:12:37 PM
Well. I think I need to say this one last time.

What the hell mod.
Mod is kind of in a conflicted state at the moment. On one hand mod thinks that this was a really good Touhou themed Role Madness game. On other hand mod thinks that this was definitely an experience, after which mod is not sure if he wants to design another role madness setup.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 04:15:01 PM
By the way, that's more than 15 pages in less than a day. Crazy stuff.

Even if you gave each character one role, it'd still qualify as role madness. Feel free to design more, just make sure you aren't overloading.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: ActionDan on September 02, 2014, 04:15:22 PM
Biggest problems are kills not resolving at the same time plus 1000000 protective roles
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 04:16:56 PM
There was just role overload in general. There was a boatload of informational roles as well.

And oh god, if it wasn't that Zak apparently out-prioritized the SK, we would have lost BT that night...?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
Conq gapped BT to safety.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 02, 2014, 04:27:00 PM
This game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
Day 1 Final Vote Count

ActionDan (5): CF7, Dr Rawr, Dormio, Oarfish, Massaca
No_Lynch ⑨: Raikaria, Just, Serela, Schezo, NNR, Moridin84, BT, ActionDan, Chaore.

Not voting.
Zakeri, SB, Dorian

So, uh.

I was right about which side was scummy.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: ActionDan on September 02, 2014, 04:33:37 PM
Yeah well...
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
Day 1 Final Vote Count

ActionDan (5): CF7, Dr Rawr, Dormio, Oarfish, Massaca
No_Lynch ⑨: Raikaria, Just, Serela, Schezo, NNR, Moridin84, BT, ActionDan, Chaore.

Not voting.
Zakeri, SB, Dorian

So, uh.

I was right about which side was scummy.

But I was still town :3

Conq gapped BT to safety.

But the mod thread said that the gap action failed.

Also I've won 3 of the last 4 games WHAT IS THIS.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Dorian White on September 02, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
Mod is kind of in a conflicted state at the moment. On one hand mod thinks that this was a really good Touhou themed Role Madness game. On other hand mod thinks that this was definitely an experience, after which mod is not sure if he wants to design another role madness setup.
Take it from someone who didn't hold back on his opinions, focus more on the role part instead of madness and you will be fine ? you sadist.^^
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
BT
08-26-2014
06:09 PM ET (US)
I feel really bad for Raikaria. Not because of the voteblock thing. Because he thinks he's plotting against the scumteam with his townie pals and stuff. Except NNR... technically... isn't town, I'm not town and Dorian's not scum.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 02, 2014, 04:57:04 PM
BT
08-26-2014
06:09 PM ET (US)
I feel really bad for Raikaria. Not because of the voteblock thing. Because he thinks he's plotting against the scumteam with his townie pals and stuff. Except NNR... technically... isn't town, I'm not town and Dorian's not scum.
was the most hilarious part of the game seeing him hard defend his neighbors when neither of them were actually green
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Schezo on September 02, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Yeah Raikaria was definately like dude. You're being scum MVP as town. Can you chill on answering for and about people.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
Well I enjoyed this game :V Makes me want to run a role madness game of my own
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Well I enjoyed this game :V Makes me want to run a role madness game of my own
Make sure the game doesn't end the instant people start claiming.  :colbert:
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Technically, it ended when people started fakeclaiming.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: PX on September 02, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Serela's 311 in the scum qt is the best
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Kilgamayan on September 02, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
I see the legacy of Tenshi lives on strong.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 06:06:32 PM
Make sure the game doesn't end the instant people start claiming.  :colbert:

Mystery of the Druids Setup mafia will explicitly forbid flavor claims. To the degree of 'you will be modkilled if you out your role's flavor name'. That said MotD isn't gonna be role madness.

And not just to avoid breaking of the game like this one.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: CF7 on September 02, 2014, 06:21:57 PM
Once again, thanks to everyone who participated. Sorry it turned out this way and i promise not to do this level of madness again. Ever.
All in all this was quite fun and i'll forever remeber the Day 4.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
Called off quicklynch to check my role. Did not foresee this.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
Oh well, good work O4rfish and Polly.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 07:17:41 PM
BT
08-26-2014
06:09 PM ET (US)
I feel really bad for Raikaria. Not because of the voteblock thing. Because he thinks he's plotting against the scumteam with his townie pals and stuff. Except NNR... technically... isn't town, I'm not town and Dorian's not scum.

And yet everyone was thinking I was town when I was COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Dr Rawr on September 02, 2014, 07:26:43 PM
And yet everyone was thinking I was town when I was COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
SCUM NEIGHBORIZOR ISNT A THING AND NEVER WILL BE AAAAARRGGGHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: O4rfish on September 02, 2014, 07:29:34 PM
Conq was the scum neighborizer.
Serela was alive.
Bard was excluded.
BT won LYLO.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 02, 2014, 07:36:52 PM
That setup, lol.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Serela on September 02, 2014, 07:40:01 PM
SCUM NEIGHBORIZOR ISNT A THING AND NEVER WILL BE AAAAARRGGGHHHHHHH
I don't know why you keep saying this when motk has had scum neighborizors in more than one setup before
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Polaris on September 02, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
Man, imagine if we had quicklynched Zak in the beginning of the day :V
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Bardiche on September 02, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
Man, imagine if we had quicklynched Zak in the beginning of the day :V

Yeah. Imagine if I had gone through and delayed Raikaria. :V (Ironic how Scum had to rely on town fucking over each other to really prevent night actions!)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Moridin on September 02, 2014, 08:56:00 PM
I feel kind of bad considering that if I didn't randomly hit a MAFIA, blocking the first on top of just killing him,  the game probably would have worked out better.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Conqueror on September 02, 2014, 09:09:43 PM
Conq was the scum neighborizer.
Serela was alive.
Bard was excluded.
BT won LYLO.

This guy gets it.

Props to the scum on sticking through the game until it was literally unwinnable for them.

As for the setup, flavour was A+ but balance was, well. Schezo was probably the strongest scum so losing him N1 swung the game even more towards town. Also, town bulletproof roleblocker gg no re.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Quote
Also why didn't we cotton on that a less-waffly Serela was scum earlier?
But I did, and everyone yelled at me for my vote, and I backed off because I only made the vote in my delirium of having read the entire game in three hours about one hour after I should have gone to bed.
I knew I had a good reason for punishing it, because I remember Serela mentioned that playing as non-town was much easier for him because he didn't care enough about who he was lynching to waffle on them and could just BS through it. I think he might have realized I had remembered that after my vote and played back to his old meta to throw off my read of him.

so yeah Dan's clear D1 was based entirely on false premises.  he had a good reason to do it though!  N1 he used the ascetic ability and N3 I used it too!  really wanted to protect myself.  also i didn't want to confuse the night action tangle for some non-obvious benefit.

I plan to eat some shrooms myself tonight though!  Then things can happen!
So then that means it's possible that the message I got saying my protection was unneeded was because I got auto-role blocked, not because the mod actually tells me if a person I protect gets shot or not?

Edit: Oh, I guess this is an after game discussion post now.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Schezo on September 02, 2014, 09:21:08 PM
Oh yeah and
Act and still preform nightkill mafia still best race.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: Edible on September 02, 2014, 09:25:30 PM
Well, this game happened.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: BT on September 02, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
Also, town bulletproof roleblocker gg no re.
A bulletproof roleblocker wouldn't have lived the spark to tell the tale.

I think he might have realized I had remembered that after my vote and played back to his old meta to throw off my read of him.
I don't think so, it was kind of hard to pick and choose from the townie-looking newbies at that point so Serela's deflation should have been legit. It's not like he was waffling between his reads, he was literally withdrawing them after realizing he couldn't push 'em no more.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 02, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
I just realized going through my notes, but Serela and BT were top priority rereads for when I mentioned I was doing ISOs, and I had skipped doing BT because (I thought) I was going to NK him by default anyway. I only targeted Moridin because I had managed to get an internet connection on my Vita and had read through the thread during the night phase.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Day DIE.
Post by: SB on September 03, 2014, 06:42:43 AM
Oh yeah and
Act and still preform nightkill mafia still best race.
^this^
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: pokemon123 on September 03, 2014, 01:45:53 PM
since i basically skimmed the game did scum just instantly lose if serela got lynched?
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: WHMZakeri on September 03, 2014, 01:50:21 PM
No, scum just decided to cut out the waiting since they couldn't see a way to make it through lylo.

^this^
I can't speak for my roles, but my Rules explicitly state that you can in my game.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Serela on September 03, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
I went from "lynched tomorrow" to "lynched today" due to being unable to think of a decent fakeclaim, and then when I woke up in the morning I found out Raikaria was SECRETLY ALSO A COP, and was going to cop BT and get a scum guilty on him. Then it turns out Bard was going to give Raikaria double night actions for even more cop results, and then Massaca claimed a bunch more powers including a VIG, Affinity's need to claim finally happened and totally bombed so we were literally all sitting there waiting to be immediately killed.

Even before that though, if let's say me and Affinity came up with good fakeclaims, we were still probably doomed due to all the townies being some degree of clear and having gobs of really strong powers that would continue giving clears (and scum guilties)
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Bardiche on September 03, 2014, 02:15:13 PM
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Then it turns out Bard was going to give Raikaria double night actions for even more cop results,

No, I was going to delay two people. Raikaria kept bugging me to double his speed, but I had no intentions of doubling anyone's speed at all.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Serela on September 03, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
It wouldn't have really mattered since he was guiltying the last scum that night anyway ;_; But good to know
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Bardiche on September 03, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
I was going to Delay Affinity after O4rfish pointed out his claim though. Also Delay Polly. Because ITPs.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Raikaria on September 03, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
I woke up in the morning I found out Raikaria was SECRETLY ALSO A COP

Yep; I kept that trump card THE WHOLE TIME.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: Chaore on September 03, 2014, 05:35:34 PM
Oh this is over.

...the true face of D-1 is pretty hillarious not going to lie, holy shit dan played us fucking hard rofl.

The hell was I considered a N1 kill though? I'm kinda curious why that was suggested.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: O4rfish on September 03, 2014, 09:44:09 PM
Proper play if you actually are a supersaint?
I suggest hidden crumbs early.
Title: Re: Touhou: Awareness of Color Mafia. Game Over
Post by: pokemon123 on September 03, 2014, 11:01:12 PM
thanks, gg town. Was a fun game to spectate.