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HumanReploidJP:

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You can basically use Danmakufu for anything as long as you include the DNH license.

The shmup is a genre, so as long as you don't contain ANY Touhou characters and do not use ANY of ZUN's resources, you're in the clear. Refer to Len'en as a successful example.

If you do make a Danmaku game without any connection to Touhou, be prepared to not face hate or anger but rather ignorance. You're going to have to put effort into marketing your game if you want people to play it. For me at least, I've been working on a danmaku game for two years and I can count the number of people willing to playtest the game with the fingers on my hands.

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Quick question: Do you actually plan to make a fan game that doesn't contain touhou characters with the DNH license? Why, if so?

P.S. I'm not trying to blame the circumstances based on copyright terms based on the DNH, but just to research about how any fan-made game that does/doesn't contain touhou characters using DNH does.
Sparen:

--- Quote from: HumanReploidJP on June 16, 2018, 11:18:25 AM ---Quick question: Do you actually plan to make a fan game that doesn't contain touhou characters with the DNH license? Why, if so?

P.S. I'm not trying to blame the circumstances based on copyright terms based on the DNH, but just to research about how any fan-made game that does/doesn't contain touhou characters using DNH does.

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Next time, please bring this up on my project thread rather than in this one, but to answer your question:

Danmakufu is a surprisingly versatile tool that can be used for things other than SHMUPs. In addition, it is currently one of the best options available specifically for SHMUPs. Personally, if you made me choose between Unity 2D, Godot, Game Maker, or Danmakufu, for this specific genre I would always choose Danmakufu 100% of the time.

Not all SHMUPs are Touhou based, and if someone wants to make a danmaku SHMUP with or without Touhou characters, Danmakufu is a viable choice.

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Note: You stated the following:

--- Quote ---Quick question: Do you actually plan to make a fan game that doesn't contain touhou characters with the DNH license? Why, if so?

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By asking if I am making a fan game without Touhou characters, you are insinuating that I am making a fan game of another franchise. Technically, my main project is not a fan game but a standalone Touhou-inspired danmaku SHMUP with no connection to the Touhou universe except for the fact that Touhou's existence is known as a franchise.

A few months ago we had a discussion on RaNGE whether Touhou-inspired games were allowed on RaNGE, and that might be an interesting read as well.
HumanReploidJP:

--- Quote from: Sparen on June 16, 2018, 03:01:33 PM ---Next time, please bring this up on my project thread rather than in this one, but to answer your question:

Danmakufu is a surprisingly versatile tool that can be used for things other than SHMUPs. In addition, it is currently one of the best options available specifically for SHMUPs. Personally, if you made me choose between Unity 2D, Godot, Game Maker, or Danmakufu, for this specific genre I would always choose Danmakufu 100% of the time.

Not all SHMUPs are Touhou based, and if someone wants to make a danmaku SHMUP with or without Touhou characters, Danmakufu is a viable choice.

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Note: You stated the following:By asking if I am making a fan game without Touhou characters, you are insinuating that I am making a fan game of another franchise. Technically, my main project is not a fan game but a standalone Touhou-inspired danmaku SHMUP with no connection to the Touhou universe except for the fact that Touhou's existence is known as a franchise.

A few months ago we had a discussion on RaNGE whether Touhou-inspired games were allowed on RaNGE, and that might be an interesting read as well.

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Oh... I think I understand now. thanks...


--- Quote ---Note: You stated the following:By asking if I am making a fan game without Touhou characters, you are insinuating that I am making a fan game of another franchise. Technically, my main project is not a fan game but a standalone Touhou-inspired danmaku SHMUP with no connection to the Touhou universe except for the fact that Touhou's existence is known as a franchise.
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And I'm not insinuating in any ways, but I'm just trying to be specific, in a responsible way. My mistake...
HumanReploidJP:
I'm confused when I test Danmakufu with my practice while I live in Philippines at the Southeast Asia...

But for real... What's the difference about creating a touhou fangame that would work for money or work for no money? And where do fanmade touhou programmers work with competence?

Because 6 days ago, I understand that making fanmade touhou games that contains another franchise game (i.e., Steins; Gate, To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, etc.) is forbidden... (Thanks, SparenofIria).

Anyone out there, please respond. Thank you...
Sparen:

--- Quote from: HumanReploidJP on June 21, 2018, 03:53:16 AM ---I'm confused when I test Danmakufu with my practice while I live in Philippines at the Southeast Asia...

But for real... What's the difference about creating a touhou fangame that would work for money or work for no money? And where do fanmade touhou programmers work with competence?

Because 6 days ago, I understand that making fanmade touhou games that contains another franchise game (i.e., Steins; Gate, To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, etc.) is forbidden... (Thanks, SparenofIria).

Anyone out there, please respond. Thank you...

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In general, unless you have written permission/a license from the original creator, selling fan games is, simply put, illegal. Touhou is a gray area in that it's an open IP, but I would advise against trying to make money off of your Touhou fan game. In general, I personally feel the money you expect to make by selling a Touhou fan game should only offset development costs/cost of printing CDs/cost of purchasing a booth at a convention.

So if you plan to sell a Touhou fangame on Steam and charge 40 dollars for it, I'm going to advise against that unless ZUN has specifically OK'd it.

(Note that this post is purely my opinion - I am not a legal expert and should not be treated as such).
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