Author Topic: Miscellaneous Questions Thread 2 (Please look here before anywhere else) (Read 174510 times)

Conqueror · « **Reply #120 on:** February 21, 2011, 07:11:18 AM »

Well actually people have been revamping the character profiles to separate the "Fun Facts" section into a game-related Trivia section and a fan-based Fandom section. Unfortunately most of the pages haven't been edited yet.

As for the existence of fandom cruft on the wiki, where else is the isolated Touhou fan supposed to find out what SuppaTenko is? :V

And yes, it would be really nice if the print work articles were a little more prominent. It's too bad a lot of them haven't been summarized onto the character pages yet, because not every casual browser is going to go and read the actual article.

Edit: You guys realize that you can edit the wiki too, right?

Fix up the articles if you can find the time!

Smok, destroyer of thoughts · « **Reply #121 on:** February 21, 2011, 08:32:27 AM »

Quote from: Sabino on February 21, 2011, 01:17:00 AM

Well, actually Suppa Tenko was some stupid meme that the people on 2ch came out with and has stuck on to Ran (Just because she was the poor victim of random AA nudity)
So it wouldn't be quite right to say that the spell card was the reason to her exhibitionist interpretation.
Since it's quite old, quite random, and since people -especially Ran fans- aren't quite fond of it, I think people are free to forget about thejoke.jpg

I uh... didn't say the card is the reason of saying she's an exhibitionist, I'm pointing out it reminds you on that fan-crafted thing. That's it.

Quote from: Conqueror on February 21, 2011, 07:11:18 AM

As for the existence of fandom cruft on the wiki, where else is the isolated Touhou fan supposed to find out what SuppaTenko is? :V

I used Google for that as first when I heard about this meme and didn't know what's it all about. It took some time though to get it :V

Drake · « **Reply #122 on:** February 21, 2011, 08:38:12 AM »

You find out "what" the memes are fairly easily. It's how they started/spread that is the entire point. Going "lol in fan depictions character X does Y" is pretty moot because if it happens enough to be mentioned then people are already going to know about it. It's like going to TVTropes to confirm that your favorite show indeed uses a bunch of archetypes you already knew it used.

Also I like to complain about the fandom but not actually do anything about it. I could probably edit the wiki but I'm too lazy to actually do anything substantial about its current state, it's just too big. I'd also have to redo the character pronunciations as well, those are pretty damn old.

ふとくていなねこじょおう · « **Reply #123 on:** February 21, 2011, 07:23:12 PM »

Mima obviously has a grudge against the Hakurei clan, but she never quite specifies about what. Maybe one of Reimu's ancestors was responsible for her death?

De La Witch · « **Reply #124 on:** February 22, 2011, 03:10:16 AM »

Hello everyone, I haven't made a formal intro to the board yet... but well, anyways:

I've read in some places saying that Eirin is older than humanity itself. How can that be though? It's mentioned that Eirin was a Lunarian, but they also said that Lunarians were once humans and branched off to the moon later. How can she be older than humanity if Lunarians themselves were not older than humanity?

Also, is Eirin usually regarded more as a Physician, a doctor that actually directly treats people? Or is she more of a Researcher that only tries to develop new medicine instead of directly working with the sick?

Drake · « **Reply #125 on:** February 22, 2011, 04:05:52 AM »

Eirin was one of the people who helped found the Lunar Capital with Tsukuyomi. Even if she's "human", she's older than Gensokyo at the very least. Lunarians don't die of natural causes, so along the way the line between human and Lunarian (if there even was one at all) was lost. You can't really tell.

Forte Blackadder · « **Reply #126 on:** February 22, 2011, 11:29:22 AM »

Eirin may be an evolved human, or a complete different race before humanity (as far as Touhou concerns, youkai and gods have the human body appearance). The only fact we knew about her is that she's super old, much older than Yukari. Also, she helped found the Lunar Capital, so there is a possibility that she was the one made Lunarians to be as they are now.

About her job... well I think she can probably do anything. A master of all trades. However, if I was her I wouldn't treat patients directly, will save it for Reisen later.

日巫子 · « **Reply #127 on:** February 22, 2011, 03:38:21 PM »

What would happen if the Saigyou Ayakashi died or was destroyed?

Forte Blackadder · « **Reply #128 on:** February 22, 2011, 04:00:05 PM »

It holds quite an amount of souls, so if it dies all of them will be released.

Whatthe · « **Reply #129 on:** February 22, 2011, 09:50:49 PM »

Do Seeds of Non-Identification only mask an object's appearance?

For example, if something made a distinctive sound, could a Seed of Non-Identification make it sound like something else, or not?

Drake · « **Reply #130 on:** February 22, 2011, 11:51:39 PM »

Could? You never know. What you do know is that Nue can still giggle while in indistinguishable orb form.

Forte Blackadder · « **Reply #131 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:17:46 AM »

I believe not, since the definitions are all about visual. But there is always possibilities. Because the "form" is already varied depending on who's seeing them, it's possible to have the sound that the viewer believes it to have. It's like an illusion of some sort...

Zengar Zombolt · « **Reply #132 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:01:21 AM »

I believe they can. I mean the UFOs all have a distinct sound. I don't think a piece of wood would sound like that.

Smok, destroyer of thoughts · « **Reply #133 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:44:03 PM »

What's the deal with ex-Rumia? I mean, I know what's it about but where did it came from and is there any at least slight hint it might be real?

orinrin · « **Reply #134 on:** February 23, 2011, 04:59:37 PM »

Quote from: Smok, destroyer of thoughts on February 23, 2011, 04:44:03 PM

What's the deal with ex-Rumia? I mean, I know what's it about but where did it came from and is there any at least slight hint it might be real?

It's a fan-theory made from her profile in EoSD.

Quote from: EN Touhou Wiki

The ribbon tied to her hair is actually a charm; she can't touch it even though there have been times when she wanted to take it off.

I guess people speculated that the charm is there for sealing her true powers or something along those lines.

Forte Blackadder · « **Reply #135 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:12:45 PM »

Because if she ever take it off, she'll become so moe we are all gonna die.

Smok, destroyer of thoughts · « **Reply #136 on:** February 23, 2011, 07:16:33 PM »

Quote from: Fortevn on February 23, 2011, 05:12:45 PM

Because if she ever take it off, she'll become so moe we are all gonna die.

a moekiri!

Sungho · « **Reply #137 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:30:26 PM »

Did ZUN ever mention anything about Momiji Inubashiri's gender?

Romantique Tp · « **Reply #138 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:39:02 PM »

Quote from: Sungho on February 23, 2011, 10:30:26 PM

Did ZUN ever mention anything about Momiji Inubashiri's gender?

She is referred to as a female in her MoF profile.

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #139 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:41:06 PM »

See also Aya and Hatate's spell card comments for Momizi's cards.

miyu · « **Reply #140 on:** February 24, 2011, 01:08:48 AM »

Every game character in Touhou is female, except the turtle and the cloud. The turtle's a turtle so no one cares about it, and clouds have no reproductive organs so it's technically genderless.

日巫子 · « **Reply #141 on:** February 24, 2011, 01:29:14 AM »

Quote from: miyu on February 24, 2011, 01:08:48 AM

Every game character in Touhou is female, except the turtle and the cloud. The turtle's a turtle so no one cares about it, and clouds have no reproductive organs so it's technically genderless.

Rinnosuke and Youki would like to have a word with you.

miyu · « **Reply #142 on:** February 24, 2011, 01:33:48 AM »

Quote from: 日巫子 on February 24, 2011, 01:29:14 AM

Rinnosuke and Youki would like to have a word with you.

I said "game characters". I don't consider Youki a character either, since he's never made even a single appearance in the entire series. He's a minor subplot element who's barely mentioned in Youmu's character profiles.

Drake · « **Reply #143 on:** February 24, 2011, 01:44:43 AM »

rinnosuke is a pretty major character tbh

he's just too much of a pussy to be in any games

miyu · « **Reply #144 on:** February 24, 2011, 01:48:23 AM »

Quote from: Drake on February 24, 2011, 01:44:43 AM

rinnosuke is a pretty major character tbh

he's just too much of a pussy to be in any games

Oh, I never questioned Rinnosuke's importance. All I did was make a distinction between "characters that appear in games" and "characters that only appear in side works". Youki's neither, so he's even less than an inanimate prop.

Drake · « **Reply #145 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:12:17 AM »

Sorry, misinterpreted your post.

miyu · « **Reply #146 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:19:13 AM »

D-D-Don't get ahead of yourself, idiot! I-It's not like I clarified myself for you or anything, you know.

Drake · « **Reply #147 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:20:54 AM »

i wouldn't really care either way tbh

Sungho · « **Reply #148 on:** February 24, 2011, 02:22:59 AM »

Quote from: The only Master Bigode in the world on February 23, 2011, 10:39:02 PM

She is referred to as a female in her MoF profile.

I didn't know Momiji had a profile.
I only checked the Double Spoiler comments, and they didn't mention anything about the gender.
The profile does mention the gender, though.
Too bad, it would have been more fun if the profile didn't say anything about the gender.

Alfred F. Jones · « **Reply #149 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:18:26 AM »

Quote from: Sungho on February 24, 2011, 02:22:59 AM

I only checked the Double Spoiler comments, and they didn't mention anything about the gender.

um

Quote from: Aya, Spell Card 4 - 2

The mountain watchdog, the white wolf tengu.
I came to check if she has been actually working.
Though we get into fights easily whenever we meet....

Quote from: Hatate, Spell Card 4 - 2

Ah, it's Momiji the white wolf tengu, huh?
It looks like she can't deal with with Aya, but I wonder why...
Maybe they just have a cat-and-dog relationship.